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MicroSD card hanging phone

I've just took delivery of my Kingston 1GB MicroSD card and all is not going well.
Using TomTom on it causes the entire phone to hang. This can happen is various places, there seems to be no real pattern to it. It can hang when running the initial config screens or if you manage to get passed them it will always hang when trying to enter a street/city name. Normally I can get a few characters in to typing the name and then it will freeze. Only a soft reset will bring it back.
I've tried formatting the card on the PC as FAT and FAT32 but neither seem to improve things.
Anyone else had issues with reading from MicroSD cards hanging their phone - up until installing the card the phones been rock solid?
BTW: It's a SPV M3100. Nothing else is installed - it's just been hard reset

I was having numerous problems with the phone freezing. The famous sleep of death whereby if was left charging overnight it would freeze up only a soft reset will sort it out.
I narrowed it down to the micro sd card or the SPV3100 handling of it. I have a 1gb Sandisk Ultra II. I discovered that if I had a program loaded onto the sd card & the phone had to access it for whatever reason, in my case Fizz Traveller & an RSS reader the phone would just freeze up.
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
Obviously this could be just the phone not compatible with the sd card but I don't have a different brand to try out. But I tend to think its a bug with the phone itself.

hmm doesn't sound too clever.
Assuming it is a bug with the phone itself I wonder if trying one of the other roms might be a course of action? Trouble is there's no way back yet until Orange release a update. Could really do with my GPS working though :-(

zen123 said:
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
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I think that this is normal for the Hermes. That's the way it works on my Vario II.

I believe the problem with TomTom hanging is due to the software being a little slow at reading the names database from the card. This happens to me on occasion, but if you wait a little while it comes back. I'm using a SanDisk 2Gb card and most other software works fine. It's entirely possible that these problems will be fixed with a future firmware update, as I think it's just a matter of teething problems on a new system. In my case, 2Gb cards weren't even widely available when the Hermes was designed.

kevino said:
zen123 said:
Another problem is everytime I take the sd card out & put it back in, the phone doesn't see it until a soft reset.
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I've got TTN5 working on my SPV no problems at all. Took less than 10mins to transfer the files from my old sd card to the new one & load the Nav5.21 program onto the phone. Even after numerous hard resets & 3 different phones.
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2gb SD card becoming corrupt

I used my Qtek 9100 with a PQI 512mb miniSD for a good few weeks and it worked flawlessly. I had another unbranded 2gb miniSD card and decided to copy everything on to that and use it so I'd have more space for music. To cut a long story short, this worked fine for a few days then I started noticing WMPlayer acting up. I checked the card and loads of files seemed to be corrupt. After playing around with it for a while I eventually gave up and decided it must be a duff card.
So, I bought a 2gb PQI miniSD which I had read good reviews off. However, I'm having the same issue. I've tried everything I can think of 1) hard resets, 2) soft resets 3) re-installing apps 4) formatting in a couple of different PCs with a couple of different card readers 5) formatting from the StorageTools on the phone 6) formatting using WM5torage.
I can install apps and they seem to be okay, but then when I try and run them I get errors and when I look at the card its because of corrupt files.
I have no idea what is going on and I'm at the end of my tether.
I'm using the latest Qtek 9100 ROM from their website. Is this perhaps a bug in the ROM? Would I be better with another ROM? Which one? Will this still leave my 'phone SIM unlocked if I use a non-standard ROM?
HELP? Please?

Hey,
I do hope this is within this topic!
I've got aLmost the same problem, except I have some files just disapear on my 2GB mini, and some stay!
Lost a GIG of music, and most of my WORD docs, [60MB] and it left me 2MBs after removing Skype!
Real WEIRD!
Ive got a 8125 and stuff on the SD card just disappears after I remove an app!
Since this has happed more than 3 times and the 2GB mini tested OK, whats up with the device!
Is it the connections in the device to the SD card, or what?
Thanks for XDA-developers!

I have a 2gb card in my Qtek 9100. I've had it for about 2 weeks, and I got the card the day after I got the 9100. Sofar I haven't noticed any missing files. It's a 2gb Sandisk
I just thought to add this. Do you have the enhanced performance option in RegistryWizard enabled, or have you made the registry change to enable caching of the file system?
I was noticing that my recent programs on the start menu were being lost on occasion during a soft reset. I disabled that "enhanced performance" (caching) and that problem has disappeared. It makes sense that it would cause data loss or corruption, since data is being cached, if the cache doesn't write out before you reset, you loose everything in cache. I didn't notice any real world performance increase, so I will just leave that disabled.
If you have that setting enabled, and soft reset often, then that might explain the data loss/corruption

Success!
Well, I got hold of CnetX Flash Format program and this seems to have done the trick. I installed it and tried formatting the 2gb card as FAT32 - this gave the same problems I had before.
Formatted it as Fat 16 with 32k Cluster and lo and behold its working like a dream. Copied all my stuff from 512Mb card to it and now I'm syncing all my music over.
Fingers crossed it stays this way!

Scrub that......
.....just failed syncing my music over. Managed to get 950Mb of stuff on the card and then it started doing exactly what it was doing before. Hmmm....i'm really stuck now.

Howdy,
Well now today all my stuff on the care is gone POOF excect one little word file and a few omaclock things and a few folders!
All music is gone but the music folder is there WOW!
I already reformatted a few weeks ago to Fat 32 form the other one!
Hey d0ug,
I just thought to add this. Do you have the enhanced performance option in RegistryWizard enabled, or have you made the registry change to enable caching of the file system?
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I dumber the a bucket of rocks, so where is th RegistryWisard enabled or disabled at if your talking to me?
Thanks and sorry for the dumby thing?

madefree said:
Howdy,
Well now today all my stuff on the care is gone POOF excect one little word file and a few omaclock things and a few folders!
All music is gone but the music folder is there WOW!
I already reformatted a few weeks ago to Fat 32 form the other one!
Hey d0ug,
I dumber the a bucket of rocks, so where is th RegistryWisard enabled or disabled at if your talking to me?
Thanks and sorry for the dumby thing?
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You can get RegistryWizard here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=255225

Hey d0ug,
Thanks for the link, and dnloaded it but I really know why, or want for?
Ok whats this for, the storage card or what?
Thanks for your valuable time, and really sorry for the extra stupid questions, as this device in not my first device but I didn't have any problems with the X50 so I didn't have to learn to work on it!

Hey scotjames
you said
.....just failed syncing my music over. Managed to get 950Mb of stuff on the card and then it started doing exactly what it was doing before. Hmmm....i'm really stuck now.
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Yep I moved 1 + GBs music into a "music" folder again!
Installed a app from xda, here called omanclockscaller.exe or something like that and set the overclock (speed of the processor) to 240 and the underclock to 150 (which was stated to work on another 8125)
and my device FROZE to the max couldn't soft reset or nothing so I had to do the HARD reset!
Looked in the SD card saw the folder "music" and NOTHING in it, just blank!
All subfiles were gone, POOF!
When to the main area of the SD card and ticked on a Mp3 file that was sitting there and it said player said "file stopped." 70%
Went to another MP3 file, tapped, and it said blah, blah "end of file" and would not play!
SO everything on the SD card, cept dah empty folders are either
1. corrupted
OR
2. GONE bye bye!
So NOW since the 8125 might not be the "slowest" brick on the block, and wont run, Skype unless its "overclocked," and I can't go thru another 50 some pages on xda to find the "fix" for dah SD wiping weirdness, and the overclocking tricks of the techs, I guess I get to go to Cingular, exchange dah phone (as it ain't no good as a PDA, but a great heavy phone) and than sell the NEW one on ebay for 350 with the New 2200MHz extended battery, and someone who is more techey than I can enjoy tweaking the thing!
Ive done 5 full Hard resets and have had to redo most everything, 5 times, settings etc, and its getting real time consuming, to state the least!
So since I got this pos on ebey and it has a 2yr. warrantee I guess its getting ready to get gone!
Hope someone like d0ug can help you out, really!
Later!

What brands are the Memory Cards? Where did you buy them from? Is it just in the Wizard that the card is being corrupt or does it work flawlessly in a memory card reader? Cause from what I've read it sounds like PEBKAC.

Card brand
My first card was unbranded so not overly surprised I had problems. This one is PQI but I think perhaps its because PQI cards are MLC (multi layer construction). Apparently Sandisk are SLC (single layer construction) and they should work okay.
I might just have to fork out more money and see.
The card works perfectly in my PC with card reader.
Excuse the ignorance but what is PEBKAC (or should I not ask!)?

scotjames said:
My first card was unbranded so not overly surprised I had problems. This one is PQI but I think perhaps its because PQI cards are MLC (multi layer construction). Apparently Sandisk are SLC (single layer construction) and they should work okay.
I might just have to fork out more money and see.
The card works perfectly in my PC with card reader.
Excuse the ignorance but what is PEBKAC (or should I not ask!)?
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Ah the reference to PEBKAC was more about the other guy. I think you've just got unlucky with the memory cards.

Card brand
Does the MLC/SLC thing sound viable? Has anybody got experience of using Sandisk 2Gb cards with the Wizard?

Hey scottjames,
I don't know if this helps as I was using Winamp files and wasn't using Win Media on my PC so that may be why the files got corrupt or just disapeared when I went in again and tried to play them!
So I diched Winamp and am using the gates special and so far so good!
I don't know if that may help but hope so!
Cingular is going to exchange my phone for too many other reasons!
Have a good one, and thanks everyone here!

scotjames said:
Does the MLC/SLC thing sound viable? Has anybody got experience of using Sandisk 2Gb cards with the Wizard?
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My 2gb card is a Sandisk. No problems sofar. The card is only about half full right now. Ill fill the card up and play with it awhile and see what happens

scotjames said:
Does the MLC/SLC thing sound viable? Has anybody got experience of using Sandisk 2Gb cards with the Wizard?
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I've been using a SanDisk 2GB card to capacity sine April of this year, I change the contents of the card pretty often as I use it as my mp3/video player, using both the WM5Storage program and a memory card reader in my PC. Has been flawless.

madefree said:
Hey scottjames,
I don't know if this helps as I was using Winamp files and wasn't using Win Media on my PC so that may be why the files got corrupt or just disapeared when I went in again and tried to play them!
So I diched Winamp and am using the gates special and so far so good!
I don't know if that may help but hope so!
Cingular is going to exchange my phone for too many other reasons!
Have a good one, and thanks everyone here!
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Well now the "THING" is doing the strange things again. . .
settings > memory > SD card says FREE 1903.97 out of 1904.13
NO 5ooMBs of music or word docs
But
when I go file explore > Device > SD Card I see all the music file and even play them OK
WOW thats real weird!
Cant see files in one place but plays the music in another????
So whats UP with this?
Anyone?

d0ug said:
My 2gb card is a Sandisk. No problems sofar. The card is only about half full right now. Ill fill the card up and play with it awhile and see what happens
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I filled my card lastnight, and have used the pda as normal thoughout the day today. accessed files, copied files, created files, deleted files. I'm not having any issues with my sandisk 2gb.

Thanks
Thanks everyone. I'll maybe just get myself a Sandisk card and let you know how I get on.

I have a Sandisk 2GB and whilst not experiencing the issues above I do have other problems.
When accessing eBooks via Microsoft Reader or playing video files via TCPMP the device will occasionally freeze and the apps cant even be killed by the taskmanager. I have a standard TMobile install and these are the only two additional apps that have been installed.
Ejecting the card usually frees it up.
To be fair I haven't yet tried the card in another device to establish if the card itself is faulty.

How to properly remove memory card

Hi, did some searching and I believe this topic wasnt covered anywhere else...
The thing is, sometimes when I remove memory card from the phone, some files get lost or corrupted even though no programs were running at the time...so I was wondering is there any way to remove the memory card properly, i.e. there is a menu option on the Nokia N80 'Remove memory card' which closes all running processes so that the mem. card can be removed safely..
the phone in question is a G4 Neo with 2.20.7.114 ExtROM version if thats of any use.
any help is appreciated. cheers

This is very strange. Did you get a chance to test this card in another phone / PPC or at least a card reader?
There is no option like you describe on WM devices but as long as there really is no app actually writing (reading doesn't matter) to the card there should be no problem.
I can tell you from experience that I pulled various (some fairly cheap) cards out from my jamin and other devices even while programs that were installed on them were running (not the best practice) but no files were ever damaged and certainly nothing was lost.

tried it with the reader and with few other xda's, seems to be working fine...hope that was a once off thing...anyway, if theres no option under wm, theres not much choice really.. thanks anyway

yup...I've never faced this issue either, despite my impatience

just found about 30 000 lost files on the memory card with PCs scandisk, (file0245.chk, etc) that were taking up about 3 GB of space
the memory card removal might have been just a coincidence. I think WM Torrent is the one to blame cause sometimes it tends to crash the XDA and files get missing....

I backup the comment from the thread originator. Sometime a spontanious removal of the card causes loosing some of the files in the filesystem. I experienced this several times when making photos. Newly made photos got lost. Seems like problem with syncing two copies of FAT.

Maybe stopping the SD driver with Fdc Soft's TaskMgr should do the trick.

I would recommend to try both FAT format (16 and 32), and launch a complete checkdisk on them after formating to get rid of these issues. If it happens again after this, send your card back to warranty or get another one

mndgz said:
Hi, did some searching and I believe this topic wasnt covered anywhere else...
The thing is, sometimes when I remove memory card from the phone, some files get lost or corrupted even though no programs were running at the time...so I was wondering is there any way to remove the memory card properly, i.e. there is a menu option on the Nokia N80 'Remove memory card' which closes all running processes so that the mem. card can be removed safely..
the phone in question is a G4 Neo with 2.20.7.114 ExtROM version if thats of any use.
any help is appreciated. cheers
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mndgz said:
Hi, did some searching and I believe this topic wasnt covered anywhere else...
The thing is, sometimes when I remove memory card from the phone, some files get lost or corrupted even though no programs were running at the time...so I was wondering is there any way to remove the memory card properly, i.e. there is a menu option on the Nokia N80 'Remove memory card' which closes all running processes so that the mem. card can be removed safely..
the phone in question is a G4 Neo with 2.20.7.114 ExtROM version if thats of any use.
any help is appreciated. cheers
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AHH NO! 2nd memory card gone

Ok, so when i first got the TD2 i bought a 16gb mem with it, but about 2 weeks in, it just wiped my memory card and made it useless, trying it on the computer, on the phone, even in a camera brought nothing up. I was hoping it was the memory card faulty. So i bought a new 16gb and it's gone and done it again. Just randomly, whilst using coreplayer to watch some blue, my phone froze. so i did a soft reset and now my mem card has disappeared. all my apps saved it it have gone, all my pics...just everything
what the hell is going on?
I use spb shell, luckily that was saved to my phone so i stil have it, but half the apps on it don't work now

I installed Advanced Config 3.3 and turned on SD-card powermanagement... shortly after that I lost one 8GB sandisk card ... Diamond2 could not see it anymore. My PC could not see it anymore.... Maybe it was the Advanced Config setting that somehow broke it or maybe it was coincidence?? ****ty thing is I didn't make a backup so lost a lot of nice pictures on it...

If you use activesync, you would need to configure WM device center to NOT replace items on the device. Switch that to replace items on desktop.
If its not that, then maybe shell is the culprit. Or advanced config.

tomtommy306 said:
If you use activesync, you would need to configure WM device center to NOT replace items on the device. Switch that to replace items on desktop.
If its not that, then maybe shell is the culprit. Or advanced config.
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Nope, it's not just deleted data. In my case the SD-card is really broken. I cannot open it in any device anymore.

I had this problem with my Xperia twice, and I'm far from convinced that the TD2 is any more stable.
I haven't tracked down what is causing it, but I have never had any problems with SD cards in all my years with PalmOS or Symbian devices. I think it is just a 'feature' of Windows Mobile because the system is unstable and prone to crashes which corrupt the cards.

Mr Anderson said:
I had this problem with my Xperia twice, and I'm far from convinced that the TD2 is any more stable.
I haven't tracked down what is causing it, but I have never had any problems with SD cards in all my years with PalmOS or Symbian devices. I think it is just a 'feature' of Windows Mobile because the system is unstable and prone to crashes which corrupt the cards.
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Well corruption can usually be repared by a format or something like that but in my case the card isn't even recognized by the system anymore, it just won't show up.'

this has happened to me too. twice!

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I think it is just a 'feature' of Windows Mobile because the system is unstable and prone to crashes which corrupt the cards.
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Really? Talk about 'give a dog a bad name'. If you knew a little more you'd soon realise it has zip zero and sweet buggerall to do with WM, which is stable, flexible and reliable, though the UI is admittedly rather dated, and everything to do with HTC's implementation.
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Blizze said:
Nope, it's not just deleted data. In my case the SD-card is really broken. I cannot open it in any device anymore.
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Yep twice with me as well
once with normal TF3D and once with SPB shell
Just totally broken my card...tried using 2 usb readers and 2 computers with it...nothing
tried putting it into an sd card converter and putting into 2 cameras...nothing
Be warned people!
Back up your stuff! TD2 looks like it enjoys corrupting micro sd cards and making you pay for more
perhaps HTC has a contract with Sandisk or something
Keeps sandisk bringing in profits in this troubled time of recession

AFW said:
If you knew a little more you'd soon realise it has zip zero and sweet buggerall to do with WM, which is stable, flexible and reliable, though the UI is admittedly rather dated, and everything to do with HTC's implementation.
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Our opinions differ it seems, but unless someone finds the actual cause we will never know the truth.
My apologies for not knowing much - I am trying to learn WM after many years on other platforms. All I have to go on is my personal experiences with 4 WM devices (all originating from HTC), and those experiences are not great. WM has a bad name in my eyes, from direct personal experience. Maybe I am maligning it falsely if the true cause of the problems I experience lies elsewhere...I am willing to have an open mind.
I am several £££ out of pocket, having lost 2 16GB cards to these devices - a problem I have only ever suffered with HTC/WM. Given that HTC is the leading manufacturer of WM devices it does not reflect well on either them or the OS platform they are working with that they cannot create stable bug-free systems.

Are these genuine memory sticks?
I work in repairs and I have had a number of HTC devices along with others too that have had this issue.
It turned out that on average, 7/10 devices had fake memory sticks from reputable vendors who were duped.
1/10 were corrupt memory cards just from use/standard wear and tear or just corrupt out of factory.
and the last 1/10 was a faulty memory card reader on the device -

I had an original SANDISK 8GB micro-SD card in it. I now have a 6GB in it which still is OK for now... But backups will be made. I am going to get me another 8GB card and possible trade in the broken one (warranty)... these things should not brake this soon.. the card was 3 weeks old!! If the second one also breaks than maybe it's a D2 problem??
edit: I have to notice that it broke down I did turn on the SD-card powermanagement save option from Advanced Config.... maybe that's the cause??

I've had my 16gb card in the phone since April 15th when I got my unit...not one issue touch wood so touch its the phone ... if anything, it might be your specific unit but I would still bet on the card itself
As an example, I got a 32GB USB stick from Kingston - so not exactly a small make
Within a week, I lost 31.8GB and was left with 2mb.
Data has gone and is not retrievable. Kingston have now tested and diagnoised the memory is corrupt and unfixable so they are replacing it.
So it can happen

An advice: Whenever you do a operation such as backup or something, do not charge your phone!! That really hurt your SD card....

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An advice: Whenever you do a operation such as backup or something, do not charge your phone!! That really hurt your SD card....
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what do you mean? Like no charge when on activesync? I can't see
why that would hurt the card.

Did you guys format your mem cards before using them?

I have a stack of SanDisk MicroSD cards (256mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb hc, 8gb hc and 16Gb hc). My 16Gb and 4GB cards both had faults (the 16gb one wouldn't format and the 4gb one just didn't work and wasn't even recognised as being in my phone or card reader).
SanDisk have a 5 year warranty, so I registered all of my cards on their website, reported the fault and had them replaced. The whole process took about 4 weeks, but they sent me brand new 16gb and 4gb cards.
Sometimes flash media just fails...

maybe you all should get transcend.. they give you lifetime warranty...

Yep, but I lost my reciept ... and I need that to trade in.. But yesterday a bought a new one... maybe I use the new reciept to trade in the old.. cards are the same size en look the same.. so i'll probably get away with that.

Me too - lost the 8 GB card in my TD2 last week, it's completely unreadable now, can't be formatted, etc. Never happened to me before. Hope this isn't s.th. serious with the TD2...

Problem with internal memory - faulty phone only 2 weeks old

Hi
Well i have been getting the following faults since yesterday evening
1, Get notification that SD card was removed unexpectedly - then it loads again. when it says sd card it implies the internal memory - since while it is loading apps installed on internal memory are greyed out.
2, Sometime i get notification saying damaged sd card - when i click on it it tells me to format internal storage. Sometime restarting the phone restores everything yet other time you need to do a hard reset.
I have tried everything - i upgraded to the latest firmware / formatted internal storage. Fault keeps repeating. Most of the time fault happens when i wake up phone from sleep.
I contacted samsung - and they told me to take it to have it repaired. What a pity - i only had this phone for 2 weeks!!!.
Anyone passing through the same thing? not sure whether this is a known issue since the repair was quite decisive in that phone needs to be repaired - maybe samsung is aware of such a fault.
Ken

Ahh!! Me too. Everything I tried it never help. My case same as ken481. Everything same.

return it and get a replacement...

have had the phone for almost a week and no issues like what you said so far. assume u don't have an sd card inserted and "sd card fault" is really the internal memory and not the actual sd card itself.
sounds like a faulty phone and u should get a replacement.

From your post it wasn't quite clear that if you have sd-card or not?
If you don't have, what happens if you enter sd-card? Maybe there is something in the slot which is making the error. If you just put sd-card there maybe it will get fixed?
On the other hand if you already have sd-card in the slot, I think that is a problem of the sd-card then.

Palmmmy - did you get a replacement?
Hi Guys i was told to try and run a disk check on the phone drive - anyone has any idea how to do this?
Ken

Hi
OK i tried one other thing - i removed external sd card from mobile.
When i try to move an application to sd card it tell me "Failed to move application not enough memory"
To my knowledge the galaxy should use the internal memory for applications right?
So i assume this is a clear indication that there is something wrong with the phone

ken481 said:
Hi
OK i tried one other thing - i removed external sd card from mobile.
When i try to move an application to sd card it tell me "Failed to move application not enough memory"
To my knowledge the galaxy should use the internal memory for applications right?
So i assume this is a clear indication that there is something wrong with the phone
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I've tried this way too and same as Ken.
I've changed my micro-sd 3 times but still have same problem.
Cannot replacement too.