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Hi all
Firstly apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. Searching bluetooth returns ... too many results to sift through.
OK, I have this setup. I connect my laptop to the net using either the router OR network cable. My laptop is equipped with BT.
Is there any way to browse the net from my PDA, by establishing a BT connection from XDA2 to the Laptop?
I know it would be a doddle (I hope) if I were to purchase a wifi SD card, but if I can avoid the expense it would be great.
Thanks in advance.
One way would be through BlueTooth ActiveSync. As when in the cradle, when your PPC is connected to your PC through ActiveSync, internet connectivity is through the PC. I use it whenever I am in proximity to my BT laptop. Works well!
If you go to Options in ActiveSync, click the Rules tab, check Open ActiveSync when my mobile device connects. and have the Connection set to The Internet or Work depending how your network is set up. Then establish an ActiveSync connection (USB, serial, Bluetooth or IrDA) and it will allow you use Internet programs like PocketIE, Pocket Outlook, etc.[/b]
I thank you both for your very very quick response.
Yes, both methods work. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I am one happy bunny.
Cheers
Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!
Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!
maybe it's a firewall issue
try messing around with the ping program
on your pocketpc and see if you can ping the ip of your computer
and on it's gateway and dns
also make sure your dns settings on your pocketpc is set to the same as your pc
pocket ping
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=11879
Thanks for the advice. Bit stumped really:
My PC has a static IP address (10.130.16.84) I run pocket ping on the XDA and it says it's IP address is 192.168.55.101 the network is DHCP enabled. Neither of them can ping the other one (so there is no way I can connect to the proxy from my XDA2). Any ideas why my IP address isn't in our LAN range.
Just out of interest I can use a Dell X3i and connect to the network wirelessly no problem at all.
Further to baffle everyone - If i disconnect bluetooth and cradle it. I get the same Ip address but can connect to the internet no problem! So this would lead me to believe that all the connection and activesync settings are correct.
not sure here are some guides
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449
Thanks for the help but the guides didn't fix the problem.
I eventually got it working (and a better bluetooth connection in the process) by downloading the slightly newer version of the XTND Blue Manager software http://www.windigosys.com/support.htm
I can now suft the internet on the XDA over activesync and syncrhonise files ok. Slightly slow but this I expect with what is basically a glorified serial port!
The only slight niggle I have now is that ActiveSync always reverts back to COM1 as the default port when I reboot my machine. Is there any way to stick it to com3?
it's blazing away at 700K/sec at least so the specs says
I tried to use Trinity as a modem and did not manage to make this work.
I connect the usb cable. Start ISharing program on pda. Click conect. Says connected. 3G connection works. However the laptop is not connected to the internet.
Bluetooth also does not work. I can't find a way to create a PAN as they call it.
I would appreciate any suggestions as the manual is not clear on this topic
edit: i start internet sharing on my pda. i choose bluetooth. click connect. it says: Device setup finished. On the PC connect Bluetooth PAN.
On the PC i find my device. Find available services. Double click on 'Network Acces Point on Trinity'. I get a message that the computer is connecting and then an error: The Network Access connection failed: Could not connect to the remote device'
edit2: finally solved it.
I had to enter advanced bluetooth config on laptop. Under 'network access' properties I selected 'allow other devices to create a private network with this device'. Now it works.
hi,
i had the same issue, using bluetooth, but it´s the same, i guess.
you need to connect the pda with the pc, and when you get the connection, you go to the program menu in the pda, and select in the submenu connetions usb/bluettoth pan and connect.
the dial up connectiosn should start.
tell me if suceed.
i start internet sharing on phone. then go on bluetooth->quick connect-> network access -> my phone name. then it works as i mentioned above. but i had to change some properties in my bluetooth configuration to make it work.
The same for me : when I try tu use it as a GPRS modem for my TomTom Rider device, the Rider says that the DUN profile isn't provided as a service by the Trinity !!! Use to work perfectly with my old Magician !!! I'm really disappointed ! Will see if the brand new ROM with GPS feature corrects this...
try to start internet sharing first (in trinity), connect to gprs and then start bluetooth services discovery on tomtom.
I'm not using bluetooth, but trying to use the phone as a modem using USB with a laptop. It works, but is really flaky, so would appreciate some pointers on how to fix the problem.
First thing that I do is connect the phone to my laptop via USB. Activesync starts up on both the laptop and the phone. Then, when I start the Internet Sharing program, the phone stops Activesync and connects to the network. Everything works fine for a while and I am able to surf the net on both the Trinity and the laptop with no problems for a while. The problem is that after a period that can vary from 10 minutes to 1 hours, the laptop loses the internet connection. The phone is still connected to the internet though and I can still surf using the PDA. It's just the laptop that loses the connection.
I have to reboot the laptop and soft reset the Trinity to repeat the process to get internet on the laptop going again.
Any ideas what's causing the problem? I've tried disabling Advanced USB Functionality on the Trinity, but the problem is still there...
I've tried most of the solutions/methods on this forum/net, but it just doesn't work!
I'm able to pair the device, start the PAN service and 'Intetnet Sharing' gets connected as well, PC gets an IP address, but I get no response when I ping or open a webpage.
On the phone end, I've tried with WM5, WM6, WM6.1 and even with WMWi iRouter. On the PC end, tried with 3 different XP/2003/Vista machines. I'm using BlueSoleil 6.2, but had no success with older or later versions either.
Internet Sharing over USB worked fine till my USB connector broke so BlueTooth/WiFi is my only option.
Can soneone help me out please?
if you want to teeth your gprs connection so your pc get internet that way
PAN is not the way to go
search for bluetooth AND modem
in the forums there are many guides how
it's setup
PAN is if you want your pda to get internet from your pc
Thanks for the reply. I tried Bluetooth DUN but it's too slow (115kbps) and keeps getting disconnected every 5 mins...
If Bluetooth PAN is for sharing PC net only, why then does it show up under 'Internet Sharing', and also shows the Cellular net option, as if it can connect the both, like it does for USB? If PAN isn't meant for sharing cell net, it shouldn't show the option, right?
I mean, it's not *impossible* right? We have a TCP/IP network established with all IPs properly assigned; only one device has net access; how hard or improbable can it be to share the net? There has to be a way! :|
Infact, even the inbuilt Help on Internet Sharing describes that cell net can be shared w/ the PC over bluetooth using 'Internet Sharing' and says nothing about connecting as a modem and the whole *99# thing. I was of the opinion that 'Internet Sharing' made that method obsolete...
- Disconnect everything
- Open internet sharing, select Bluetooth PAN, connect. IS should tell you "waiting for bluetooth connection".
- On the PC, connect to the PAN service on the phone. This must work, I've used it countless times.
If traffic doesn't go through, you probably have a proxy set on your device (happens with some network operators) that you need to disable for it to work.
^ That's exactly how I've been trying .. maybe it's because of BlueSoleil?
Which bluetooth stack are you using? I've been searching the local stores for a non-bluesoleil adapter but no luck so far
I'm using the Widcomm stack that came with my BT keyboard/mouse set. I think you can download it for free anyway...
kilrah said:
- Disconnect everything
- Open internet sharing, select Bluetooth PAN, connect. IS should tell you "waiting for bluetooth connection".
- On the PC, connect to the PAN service on the phone. This must work, I've used it countless times.
If traffic doesn't go through, you probably have a proxy set on your device (happens with some network operators) that you need to disable for it to work.
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Hi Kilrah, could u provide some details about how to disable proxy on the device .
I can connect but no internet traffic on my laptop .I am using vodafone live gprs on xda orbit .Thanks
I want to connect to the Internet via a Bluettoth Access Point (Billionton) providing PAN and LAP, or via my Laptop's Bluetooth Network adapter using Internet Connect Sharing.
On the HD, I cannot find the BT NULL Modem option in the Modems list (all I have there are: Bluetooth along with 2 Cellular options and Hayas modem).
Is there a way to have that option?
On my previous PDA, I had installed the Widcomm stack, there I had that option.
Pleae assist
Thaanks
anyone familiarr with that?
Please, Anyone?
As posted above, Can anyone connect to the WEB via a PC using the Bluetooth Network Adapter (with internet connect sharing) ,using the PAN or LAP BT profiles, not just Activesync.
It seems that a BT Null Modem is required to be present on the HTC HD, but I cannot configure that with the current BT stack.
Please assist
Thanks
Yes, it's possible.
Do the following:
1. Enable BT on your device. (make sure it's in visible mode as well)
2. On your PC turn on your internal BT or insert USB BT module.
NOTE: If you are using XP SP2/SP3 I suggest not to use Window's built-in BT stack, as your PC will fail to install BT modem drivers after pairing. Use Widcomm drivers instead. They worked for me In case you're using Vista, there's no need for 3rd party driver installation, as the Vista built-in BT stack will recognize and install BT modem drivers just fine.
3. On your PC, initiate BT device pairing (once again, make sure your device's BT is visible!). Once pairing is done, and BT passwords are exchanged, your PC should discover the available BT services your device can offer. Select at least BT dial-up networking and BT PAN networking. If you are using Widcomm drivers, it will automatically create shortcuts for you for every selected connection.
That's all for the configuration. If you want to use your device as a BT modem for dial-up networking, just click on the dial-up icon Widcomm wizard created for you and enter *99# as a dialing number. Usually there's no need for username/password configuarion when accessing 3G/EDGE. Should your connection fail, then you must add some "extra modem initialization commands" to your BT modem settings in device manager as follows: +CGDCONT=1,"IP","<APN name>" where APN name stands for 3G/EDGE access point your operator gave you. As an example for ATT USA it would be: +CGDCONT=1,"IP","wap.cingular"
In case you decide to connect to the Internet using BT PAN network, there's an extra step needed:
4. On your device, go to Programs->Internet Sharing. In "PC Connection" drop-down box select "Bluetooth PAN" and for "Network Connection" choose you default access point your operator provided.
5. Again make sure your device BT is ON and is in visible mode (ICS will warn you about this anyway). On your PC launch and establish BT PAN connection by using the shortcut the Widcomm has created for you.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
S.
Thanks for the quick response. Still, I may miss something.
As I had mentioned I want to access the internet from my HD via a PC (thus avoiding the cost for GPRS/HSDPA).
1. When you refer to the PAN on the PC side are you refering to the 'Network Access Point'? (I have the Broadcom stack on my PC)
2. When I click on the Network Access icon (on my PC), its starts to connect but immediately it comes up with an error message sayig 'could not connect to remote device'
3. Does the Internet Connect Sharing (ICS) on the HD, facilitate the HD to access the internet via the PC?
4. I used the following configuration for the ICS on the HD:
PC Connection: Bluetooth PAN
Network Connection: <my mobile provider> Internet
5. Do I have to configure something on the BT PAN Network Adapter on my HD (setting>wifi>wireless networks>network adapters)
5. As I understand from your response, when activating the ICS, for this type of connection, the BT PAN actually take over the traffic detined to be carried out via the HSDPA Internet, is it correct?
Thanks again
this would interest me as well
If anybody had managed to access the internet via Bluetooth PAN (via a PC ora BT accees point), then please provide explanation how to configure both: a PC with Boradcom stack and the HTC HD (which connection to use, how to use the Internet Connect Sharing on the HD, which IP addresses should be entered for the PAN network card etc.)
Your help is really needed
Thanks
I am sure this was answered the other day, do a search within the Blackstone forums.
Found it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470206
Yes, you are right. The opther thread title was about NULL MODEM, and could have been not clear. Due to the lack of help there, I did post this new thread with a more accurate title.
The problem remains the same. I still cannot access the internet via PAN. I can use BT ActiveSync to access the Internet , but this is not the right way.
Please, anyone who had succeeded, do post the steps to achieve BT via PAN
Thanks
Thats a really basic question. (your really did not find a answer on this forum?).
On ppc goto Programs/internetconnection/ and under connection choose bluetooth instead of usb. Than click connect.
On PC right click on bluetooth icon, chooce quickconnect to Network accesspoint.
Thats it. Of course you firs must pair device and set it to be"visible".
Thanks
I allready did that, I chose 'Network Access', under the Quick Connect, my PPC was detected, when I click on 'Connect' I get the message "Error creating 'Network Access Point' connection with device ,my device>" on my PC. This happens when I choose Serilal Port or Dial Up Networking too.
What am I missing?
Thanks
S u c c e s s
Thanks to you all foryour support.
The problem was with the BT stcak on my computer. I unistalled the Widcomm BT application and reinstalled it again. Suddenly, no more error messages. All is working ok.
Even I wanted to connect to my LAN internet connection on desktop over Bluetooth.
1. I have enabled BT on HD - Visible mode (No Bluetooth icon on Taskbar -- Why???.
2. Paired with Desktop - passkey exchange - Success.
3. Service Discovery - Two services found on THD:
a) Bluetooth PAN.
b) Bluetooth Dial-up networking.
(Please note - Object Push Service and FTP services are not there!!)
Anyway - Now if I try to Click Connect to the PAN:
"Establishing a Connection with ABX's Bluetooth PAN
..
Operation - Not successful. Please try it again..
I have soft reset HD and also reinstalled Bluesoleil on desktop several times.
Nothing seems to help.
As a side note
1.Even sending an object from Desktop is not possible as the Object Push Service is not visible..
2.Sending a text from a cellphone also fails - "Bluetooth Connection Failed"
I have "Obex inbox" installed if that information helps.. But the problem is there even before installing any app.
Is it that I got a stone instead of a "BlackStone" ??
Any help greatly appreciated.
Edit: Connecting Activesync over bluetooth worked. still unable over either ActiveSync-USB OR to do BT without Activesync
Any Ideas??