Internet via bluetooth? - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hi all
Firstly apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. Searching bluetooth returns ... too many results to sift through.
OK, I have this setup. I connect my laptop to the net using either the router OR network cable. My laptop is equipped with BT.
Is there any way to browse the net from my PDA, by establishing a BT connection from XDA2 to the Laptop?
I know it would be a doddle (I hope) if I were to purchase a wifi SD card, but if I can avoid the expense it would be great.
Thanks in advance.

One way would be through BlueTooth ActiveSync. As when in the cradle, when your PPC is connected to your PC through ActiveSync, internet connectivity is through the PC. I use it whenever I am in proximity to my BT laptop. Works well!

If you go to Options in ActiveSync, click the Rules tab, check Open ActiveSync when my mobile device connects. and have the Connection set to The Internet or Work depending how your network is set up. Then establish an ActiveSync connection (USB, serial, Bluetooth or IrDA) and it will allow you use Internet programs like PocketIE, Pocket Outlook, etc.[/b]

I thank you both for your very very quick response.
Yes, both methods work. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I am one happy bunny.
Cheers

Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!

Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!

maybe it's a firewall issue
try messing around with the ping program
on your pocketpc and see if you can ping the ip of your computer
and on it's gateway and dns
also make sure your dns settings on your pocketpc is set to the same as your pc
pocket ping
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=11879

Thanks for the advice. Bit stumped really:
My PC has a static IP address (10.130.16.84) I run pocket ping on the XDA and it says it's IP address is 192.168.55.101 the network is DHCP enabled. Neither of them can ping the other one (so there is no way I can connect to the proxy from my XDA2). Any ideas why my IP address isn't in our LAN range.
Just out of interest I can use a Dell X3i and connect to the network wirelessly no problem at all.

Further to baffle everyone - If i disconnect bluetooth and cradle it. I get the same Ip address but can connect to the internet no problem! So this would lead me to believe that all the connection and activesync settings are correct.

not sure here are some guides
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449

Thanks for the help but the guides didn't fix the problem.
I eventually got it working (and a better bluetooth connection in the process) by downloading the slightly newer version of the XTND Blue Manager software http://www.windigosys.com/support.htm
I can now suft the internet on the XDA over activesync and syncrhonise files ok. Slightly slow but this I expect with what is basically a glorified serial port!
The only slight niggle I have now is that ActiveSync always reverts back to COM1 as the default port when I reboot my machine. Is there any way to stick it to com3?

it's blazing away at 700K/sec at least so the specs says

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Using Activesync v 3.7.1 to internet via cable router

Hi there,
Don't know if this is even possible I've read all the articles I could find here and tried Microsoft web pages. If you can help ill most appreciate it.
(Apologies if this has been answered please let me know the link...)
My internet connection (at home) is via NTL cable, My 4 pc's connect to the internet via a Linksys router, each PC has a private IP address along the 192.168.1.x subnet which NAT to the router for internet access - all transparent.
I do not have a proxy server at home, connection is established because each PC uses the router as a gateway for internet access.
My XDA2 refuses to talk to the internet via Activesync. I can confirm that my handheld connectiviy text bubble says that the internet connection is pointing to the PC connection. the paramaters in Active sync passthorugh are set to internet - But it just won't work.
I even tried configuring the proxy option to the routers address no avail.
The XDA wants to keep defaulting back to its GPRS connection.
At the moment I have disabled the phone completely to stop it dialing out whilst I am testing.
I'm out of ideas can anyone help !!!!!!!!
I managed to fix this problem. I set up a personal proxy server from
http://www.youngzsoft.net/ccproxy/ its an excellent proxy only 815k in size and its intelligent enough to understand NAT'd IP addresses etc for connections to routers.
All I had to do was to configure the XDA 2 work profile with the proxy server address then the internet passthrough worked fine.
For Bluetooth access (I use a D-link USB bluetooth adapter). I had a problem getting the XDA 2 to launch the bluetooth connection under the activesync. I used the excellent pocket bluetooth tools
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?h...t+bluetooth+tools&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8,
after installing this the connection worked straight away with BT internet access as well.
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
Hi I am new to this forum, and like the person above am trying to find a way to browse files on my PC through my XDA2 (i-mate).
I am connected via bluetooth to my PC, activesync is working fine this way, as is internet browsing on my XDA2 using my PC's internet connection.
All I wan't to do is be able to sit away from my PC and get files from it to the XDA2 via bluetooth.
Apparently using Resco File Explorer and a wi-fi connection you can set up a network with your PC, but when I try this with Bluetooth it doesn't work - surely bluetooth can offer the same file sharing - just slower???
Please help us if you know a way!
Analyst said:
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
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Analyst said:
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
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essojay said:
Analyst said:
even though i upgraded to the new O2 rom for the xda2, i still had problems until i resorted back to the bluetooth tools, so i have internet via bluetooth gondle to my adsl. But the internet speed on my xda2 is still damm slow, perhaps its limited by the bluetoot connection speed. (my adsl is a 1mb line plus a netgear wgt624 wireless router connecting my laptop to the internet. any idea how i could get a better speed?
also what i like to do is able to access all shared files on the network or on my actual laptop from my xda2. activesync lets me browse from the laptop, but i can use the xda2 to browse the laptops files. any idea how i could do that? the laptop itsself has a 802.11g connection and an assigned ip address, but i guess that has nothhing to do with the bluetooth connection. so has anyone got any suggestions how i could access the files? some detailes guidance would be extremely welcome. thanks.
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Can't access network via Widcomm Bluetooth

Hi,
I’m using a Dynamode usb Bluetooth dongle with Widcomm 1.4.2.10 on WinXP and the bluetoothgps files on my XDA II. I'm trying to access my LAN and the internet using the Network Access profile, but so far I can’t even ping between the XDA and PC.
I've set up OBEX File Transfer and it works fine in both directions. I go to the Bluetooth Manager, add a new connection, browse the services of my PC and add Network Access. I authorise the connection on the PC then the network connection bubble appear on the XDA but it never connects. I've read on several guides that a specific IP address needs to be given, that’s fine, I want to use static IP addresses. So I go to connection settings for BT Network Access and on the Advanced page set the IP address to 192.168.0.101. I've set the username and password to an account on the PC that has access to everything. On my PC, in network connections I give the Bluetooth Network IP 192.168.0.100 and my LAN connection 192.168.0.1 (the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 for all of them). When I try to connect again, it succeeds, but using vxUtil I get timeouts when l try to ping the PC and vice-versa.
I've also tried it the other way round, setting up the Personal Network Server in Bluetooth Settings and connecting from the PC. In connection settings->Advanced->Network card->BT PAN User Driver I've set the IP address to 192.168.0.101. Again it connects fine, but I can’t ping.
I've also tried the Activesync profile (although this is less important as I can activesync over the network if I get it working). I'm sure I've set Activesync to use the right comm port, but it just says the device is not recognised for one of two reasons.....
This is really frustrating me now, I've tried reinstalling the BT software on the PC side and I’ve tried different versions, but I get the same result every time. I’ve followed several step by step guides on how to do this but still no luck. If anyone's got any ideas please let me know!!
-Tom. A
HI,
Check out this tutorial:
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74
That was the first tutorial i tried, everything works fine until I ping the PC or XDA and I get nothing
-Tom. A
I can ping from my Xda2 to Pc and the same from pc to xda2,everything seems to work fine but..
using resco explorer (trial) It can't find any network pcs.
What's wrong? someone can help me?

Connecting to internet through Active Sync

I am trying to configure my XDA2 to connect to my PC and surf the internet via a BT connection. I can Sync via BT but when I try to set up my connection it keeps asking for a phone number despite me saying it is over a Bluetooth connection and my IP is broadband. Sorry if this has been asked but I did search for any info on this.
thomo said:
I am trying to configure my XDA2 to connect to my PC and surf the internet via a BT connection. I can Sync via BT but when I try to set up my connection it keeps asking for a phone number despite me saying it is over a Bluetooth connection and my IP is broadband. Sorry if this has been asked but I did search for any info on this.
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Why do you need to setup connection for since it's already connected with ActiveSync via BT? Basically once you get connection between your device & activeSync, that's all the step you did. Unless a firewall has stopped your device from accessing to the internet; if it's the case, create exception for your activeSync, and retry browsing with your device.
hope this helps.
regards.
thanks for yor reply, Each time I try to connect the the interneet on my device it keeps trying to connect via GPRS and not through my PC via BT....
Go to ActiveSync, open the options menu & go to Rules tab.
At the bottom, you will find Pass Through Conenction, make sure its set to The Internet and not Work
Cheeeers 8)
thats it, it finally works. Thanks very much.
Glad to hear that, thomo
You're welcome anytime, dude :wink:
activesync through bt
go to setup in bluetooth and select the activesync in bt
pair the pda or ppc
give password
in wm2005 select activesync through the bt
brouse internet
i did myself
I'm having a similar problem and have effected the setting as above, however IE on my IIs says "the page you are looking for cannot be found". My computer connects fine and I have the same issue when trying to connect the device via WiLan, although I do connect to the network.
I've been trying to fiddle with the settings for a few days now but no success...anyone out there got any ideas.
Many thanks
I have mastered it now, I sync using BT on my device, leave it connetced, close Active sync on my XDA 11, Click on IE and the device connects through my PC, super duper.........
Thanks, this is what i am looking for now. I will try it
i can now only online with cable, not through Bluetooth connection
go into the advantage settings for connections
there you should be able to change the network back to my isp insted
of my network
bluetooth-internet
Hai...iam new here..i have got O2mini and would like to connect to internet via bluetooth...
i try using usb cable and activesync program to serve internet and its working.
...i succesfully connect my pc and ppc via bluetooth by using ppc activesync but when try connet to internet its still go to gprs..
pls help me...TQ
like i said again and again in this thread it's all about which network is picked in advantage settings under network connections in systems
I also tried to make a connection to the internet with activesync and usb. But with my mda doesn't work. iexplorer says the page you are looking for cannot be found. But my ppc says "connectivity the internet Pc connection". What are the settings on your ppc, so i can check?
Somebody help me.
test with ping
and maybe messenger to see if it's a dns issue
and if people use pocketplus they prob should make sure that it's not set to close insted of minimizing otherwise the connection would most likely be closed when they close activesync
Thank you very much. You solved my problem.
ezzkht said:
Go to ActiveSync, open the options menu & go to Rules tab.
At the bottom, you will find Pass Through Conenction, make sure its set to The Internet and not Work
Cheeeers 8)
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Please Help: Activesync again and wireless connection

I have my laptop connected to a router with a Linksys wireless connection. I use Ipass VPN to get through to my work e-mail.
When I install Activesync4.1 it stops me getting access in Ipass. I have tried all options I can find in this forum but with no luck.
Activesync itself works fine when installed.
I have checked with somebody else at work who uses AS with a wired connection and it works. This isn't an option for me.
Try to change your network binding setting, move your Wireless Connect to the top
you can do this by Control Panel > Network Connections > Advance(from the file menu bar) > Advanced Setting.
Hope this helps
I actually have a very similar issue with my MDA. Basically my laptop's onboard Wireless B/G cannot connect to the router when the MDA is connected. I tried your suggestion and now the MDA won't connect. Seems like it's one or the other
Has anyone found a solution to this issue? This is the only issue that I have with my device. Whenever I connect it, I lose my wireless internet on my laptop. If I'm on a wired network at the office, I lose internet access but can still access the intranet. Any advice would be appreciated.
This has nothing to do with wireless. Its the ActiveSync 4.x network install that is not done properly if you have a vpn client running
I had this too
Solution:
Once connected via activesync open network connections
There is a new network connection there then for the WM5 device
Open properties ans de-select all listed items except TCP/IP.
Worked for me
Thanks for the response. I had found your suggestion previously on another board and tried it without success. I'm suspicious that the issue may be the Dell networking control software on my laptop getting confused. As soon as I connect my device, my wireless automatically turned off like it's found another network. I was hoping someone else who's had this problem has been able to solve it. I'd appreciate any other suggestions.
Thielsa same with me. unchecking all boxes didn't work and I'm using an IBM laptop.
Did find something on a microsoft newsgroup and it seems to be a known problem that hasn't been fixed yet.
Not having activesync is the only downer for my wizard though quite a big one doing system restores all the time
not done any testing on this but I use 4.1 and vpn in via wirless.
Try establishing your vpn connection first and then launch outlook. Then connect the device to the pc (via cable).
From memory it seems to be the outlook bit that gets around the problem for me.
I've pretty much narrowed things down to the wireless connection control on my dell laptop. I've been able to get things to work fine now on my wired connection. I looked at the log from my wireless controller, and when I attach the Pocketpc device it reads a wired connection and turns off the wireless. I think that this is specific to laptops (dell only?) that have automatic wireless controllers. Hopefully someone will find a solution to this as it's the only 'bug' I have left on my device.

Unable to share cell net w/ PC via bluetooth

I've tried most of the solutions/methods on this forum/net, but it just doesn't work!
I'm able to pair the device, start the PAN service and 'Intetnet Sharing' gets connected as well, PC gets an IP address, but I get no response when I ping or open a webpage.
On the phone end, I've tried with WM5, WM6, WM6.1 and even with WMWi iRouter. On the PC end, tried with 3 different XP/2003/Vista machines. I'm using BlueSoleil 6.2, but had no success with older or later versions either.
Internet Sharing over USB worked fine till my USB connector broke so BlueTooth/WiFi is my only option.
Can soneone help me out please?
if you want to teeth your gprs connection so your pc get internet that way
PAN is not the way to go
search for bluetooth AND modem
in the forums there are many guides how
it's setup
PAN is if you want your pda to get internet from your pc
Thanks for the reply. I tried Bluetooth DUN but it's too slow (115kbps) and keeps getting disconnected every 5 mins...
If Bluetooth PAN is for sharing PC net only, why then does it show up under 'Internet Sharing', and also shows the Cellular net option, as if it can connect the both, like it does for USB? If PAN isn't meant for sharing cell net, it shouldn't show the option, right?
I mean, it's not *impossible* right? We have a TCP/IP network established with all IPs properly assigned; only one device has net access; how hard or improbable can it be to share the net? There has to be a way! :|
Infact, even the inbuilt Help on Internet Sharing describes that cell net can be shared w/ the PC over bluetooth using 'Internet Sharing' and says nothing about connecting as a modem and the whole *99# thing. I was of the opinion that 'Internet Sharing' made that method obsolete...
- Disconnect everything
- Open internet sharing, select Bluetooth PAN, connect. IS should tell you "waiting for bluetooth connection".
- On the PC, connect to the PAN service on the phone. This must work, I've used it countless times.
If traffic doesn't go through, you probably have a proxy set on your device (happens with some network operators) that you need to disable for it to work.
^ That's exactly how I've been trying .. maybe it's because of BlueSoleil?
Which bluetooth stack are you using? I've been searching the local stores for a non-bluesoleil adapter but no luck so far
I'm using the Widcomm stack that came with my BT keyboard/mouse set. I think you can download it for free anyway...
kilrah said:
- Disconnect everything
- Open internet sharing, select Bluetooth PAN, connect. IS should tell you "waiting for bluetooth connection".
- On the PC, connect to the PAN service on the phone. This must work, I've used it countless times.
If traffic doesn't go through, you probably have a proxy set on your device (happens with some network operators) that you need to disable for it to work.
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Hi Kilrah, could u provide some details about how to disable proxy on the device .
I can connect but no internet traffic on my laptop .I am using vodafone live gprs on xda orbit .Thanks

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