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USB host functionality?

Has it USB host functionality to attach e.g. a hard drive?
Would be interesting to know
Regards,
Rainer

since universals cpu is PXA27x.....(272),then it has a USB host functionnality...and if u are wondering...then yes...this means that u can connect ur HDD to it,and guess what....it's the first HTC device with USB 2.0,so imagine!!!!!!!
RAGO :lol:

Great news!!! Makes me wanna get this device even more

So you want to carry a big device around and then an external hard disk drive! Seems a bit over the top for something to do your phone / email on.

But isnt the USB on the MDA IV mini usb? How do normal usb devices work on a mini usb port?

Magician has also an Intel PXA272 but as far as I know USB-Host isnt working. If it works please correct me.
Lets hope that USB-Host will work on Universal.
Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?
Btw is there another cable needed (are other Pins of the 5 in the MiniUSB Plug used?) or just an adapter for the end of the USB-Cabel

Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?
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the device have been been released yet so unless people here
get early samples to review i dont think anybody have tried it yet
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No time or kit handy to test I'm afraid.

I got sent some info that claimed the Universal does have USB host (from someone claiming to have one for testing but is under NDA) - but nothing confirmed or proved.
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.

dgpurvis said:
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:
"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:
"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?
Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "
Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb
Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:
untill then.......
greetings..
RAGO :lol:

A bit extreme though and I find it hard to accept that we need a USB client for the device. I mean what's next, having ActiveSync installed in the Universal and have other handheld devices sync in it as well? Weird...
Still the idea seems good...

RAGOv said:
dgpurvis said:
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:
"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:
"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?
Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "
Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb
Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:
untill then.......
greetings..
RAGO :lol:
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Er... what?! I'm not sure you read my point at all...!? I said nothing about whether other processors have USB host or not - I'm not at all sure why you think I did?!
I simply pointed out that PDAs with the PXA27x processor don't always make use of its USB host functionality. In your original post you appeared to suggest that the presence of the PXA27x would mean the Unviersal definitely has host functionality - I was correcting that.
BTW - don't assume either that the Universal has USB 2.0 - I've not seen a single report that it does - and though the PXA27x does support it - only one Pocket PC with that processor has, to date, implemented it.
Remember - the XDA IIi has a PXA272 processor - and has USB Client 1.1 only and no USB host.

No answer yet?
Come on people!
Surely, there are several testers on this forum already..
Why haven't you tested this yet?

who are the testers?
i havent seen any
but then i'm a bat
well one problem with testing i guess is getting the cable
guess it would need usbA or B depending on the type of usb mass storage controller in one end and a universal connector in the other
if no such cable came with the device then
maybe people would have to make the cable themselvs

usb hosting
Well dudes, I sent an email to clubimate techsupport asking them about usb hosting capability, still waiting for an answer... maybe if enough people email them, they will take notice and put it in their faq or whatever...
greetings
Nabil H

I tired on my JASJAR and didn't work...

At least JASJAR has the usbd.dll and usbhid.dll.

i will try tonight
mda pro -> mini usb -> mini usb -> creative Zen micro Mass storage 5 gig

i've already tried this.
jasjar-miniUSB w/ USB A-USB A-B gender changer-USB B->external harddisk.
nothing happens

gm said:
nothing happens
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Can you connect a keyboard and tell us
what will happen ?
Edit: I'm not a microsoft expert, but if there
is a background program like activesync that
forces the port to slave mode, then nothing should
happen.
I don't remember its name, but this program
should be killed.

Access USB device directly. Is it possible?

On WM5 has anyone been able to access USB devices like printer, Pendrive etc directly? Would be great to be able to print directly or access files from a USB memory stick.
Have heard of HP printer drivers for older versions of windows CE somewhere...

Using a usb device on the phone.
I know of no WM5 or WM6 phone for that matter that have a usb STACK on them that would allow them to use a usb device. They are designed to BE a usb device for a pc...not the other way around.

famewolf said:
I know of no WM5 or WM6 phone for that matter that have a usb STACK on them that would allow them to use a usb device. They are designed to BE a usb device for a pc...not the other way around.
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i think you are mistaken.. there are a couple new WM5 and/or 6 devices that have USB hosting support.. among them is the Athena, O2 Flame, and toshiba g900, and those WM devices exclusive from/for japan..

Yeah, it is the other device that must be able to read the PPC.
My stereo read my Tytn as a storage device. Can play music directly from the PPC. However it is the Stereo doing the recognizing job. Not the other way around.

I'd just like to clarify a few things:
1) USB has two sides - host and client and they are different by hardware and not just software so there is no "able" question here.
2) In cases like memory stick, printer etc. when your device uses what is connected to it, the phone must act as host. The reason there are few devices with USB host is mainly because to be fully implemented this standard must provide up to 500 mA current to the hosted device and of course thats a bug problem when working on battery.
(Any phone that does implement it, provides it "unpowered" so not all devices will work)
3) In cases where something is using your device like the stereo, the phone acts as a client so with the right piece of software (like WM5Storage) any phone can be used.

The fujitsu Pocket LOOX T810/830 can act as a USB hub.
Some devices have this capability but not a feature that is common.
Sam.

I'm really unqualified to discuss this in great detail, but why I got there was - I've read somewhere in these forums about Win95 emulators for ppc devices. Now if it could be possible to "emulate" just the USB stack portion of Win95, maybe, the ppc could be connected to devices like printers which would not require a powered USB connection.
That's all ...
Atul

emulating an os dont add new features to the hardware though

mini-usb to external drive ?

Hello everyone....
While reading a review about toshiba g900 i noted that it was possible to hook up the unit to a usb flash drive or an external usb hard disk unit using the mini-usb port...
Is that possible on the i-mate , using an appropriate cable and software ?? is it natively supported ??

not on wizard( vide google: host usb).
host usb is what sad devices are lacking(besides overall power) novadays.
was used sometimes in golden era of PPC's.

i mean is that possible on i-mate kjam aka wizard or any imate device for that matter

paladin77 said:
i mean is that possible on i-mate kjam aka wizard or any imate device for that matter
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No, it is not possible since the unit does not have the required hardware for it

Hmmm... One extra reason to get that toshiba i guess .. ... If only there was a toshiba-developers forum LOL ... BTW is there any HTC device with the mentioned host USB capability ??

IRDA on Ameo ?

Hello,
I would like to have IRDA connection on my Ameo.
First, I want to make a USB device running on my Ameo.
I've simple bought an USB-IRDA Adapter:
http://www.delock.com/produkte/gruppen/Infrarot+Adapter/USB_Infra-red_Adapter_Mini_61271.html
But the Ameo told me, after I connect it over the USB Host Adapter:
He need the name for this new device; I could insert whatever I want, but nothing help's.
Is there a way to
- make running an USB-IRDA-Adapter (with modifying the known device-driver, maybe) or
- activate IRDA over a Bluetooth-Bridge or
- activate IRDA over the headphone-connector or
- activate IRDA over the special-HTC-Adapter, or or or...
whatever, please help to bring back the IRDA connection to the Ameo / HTC X7500 / X7501.
It will cost anything; no matter; I'm not a business man, but I will provide a little bit ( and I think the other also) so that will be not for free.

I need IRDA on my advantage too.
if some one know please say how...
tanX

no solution or workaround or hint or ... ?

i want IRDA to change tv's channel with my athena (if my athena be repair)
is any other way to change the TV's Channel with athena?

Arya said:
i want IRDA to change tv's channel with my athena (if my athena be repair)
is any other way to change the TV's Channel with athena?
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you could try throwing it at the tv and see if you can hit the button.
But seriously no cant think of any other way. but even if there was a way to control an ir dongle, you would still have all the problems of making sure it was pointed at the tv, and you could see the athena screen at the same time. my 4 in 1 cable usb port points to the bottom.

IrDA on X1

I have a Scuba Diving computer that I use via IrDA on the Dell Axim that my X1 has just been purchased to replace.
Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to use an external USB IrDA dongle with the X1. I've only seen Windows XP/Vista drivers listed against these dongles.
What would be involved in developing a driver?

This might be tricky, as I read somewhere on the forum that the USB port is not powered, and therefore connecting dongles (including e.g. USB drives) is difficult.
The last I saw was that it might have been possible to connect the X1 to a powered port adapter, into which USB dongles were attached.
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?

it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost

Calvin H said:
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
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Sounds like a useful suggestion. Could you point me to the type of device you mention.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.

Rudegar said:
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
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You're right on this one. It's not possible to connect USB devices to the X1 because there's no host. Even with a seperate power source, the X1 will not recognize it. Look at it this way, whenever you connect the X1 through USB, it'll act as a slave, waiting for input. Dongles need input themselves, so both devices will keep waiting for each other forever... It's like a bad fairytale!

Angelusz said:
... It's like a bad fairytale!
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This this the sort of device that might enable Price Charming (the new name for my X1) to get together with Cinderella (the new name for my lonely, but very beautiful Dive computer)?