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Has it USB host functionality to attach e.g. a hard drive?
Would be interesting to know
Regards,
Rainer
since universals cpu is PXA27x.....(272),then it has a USB host functionnality...and if u are wondering...then yes...this means that u can connect ur HDD to it,and guess what....it's the first HTC device with USB 2.0,so imagine!!!!!!!
RAGO :lol:
Great news!!! Makes me wanna get this device even more
So you want to carry a big device around and then an external hard disk drive! Seems a bit over the top for something to do your phone / email on.
But isnt the USB on the MDA IV mini usb? How do normal usb devices work on a mini usb port?
Magician has also an Intel PXA272 but as far as I know USB-Host isnt working. If it works please correct me.
Lets hope that USB-Host will work on Universal.
Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?
Btw is there another cable needed (are other Pins of the 5 in the MiniUSB Plug used?) or just an adapter for the end of the USB-Cabel
Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?
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the device have been been released yet so unless people here
get early samples to review i dont think anybody have tried it yet
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No time or kit handy to test I'm afraid.
I got sent some info that claimed the Universal does have USB host (from someone claiming to have one for testing but is under NDA) - but nothing confirmed or proved.
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
dgpurvis said:
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:
"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:
"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?
Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "
Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb
Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:
untill then.......
greetings..
RAGO :lol:
A bit extreme though and I find it hard to accept that we need a USB client for the device. I mean what's next, having ActiveSync installed in the Universal and have other handheld devices sync in it as well? Weird...
Still the idea seems good...
RAGOv said:
dgpurvis said:
Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
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I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:
"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:
"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?
Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "
Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb
Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:
untill then.......
greetings..
RAGO :lol:
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Er... what?! I'm not sure you read my point at all...!? I said nothing about whether other processors have USB host or not - I'm not at all sure why you think I did?!
I simply pointed out that PDAs with the PXA27x processor don't always make use of its USB host functionality. In your original post you appeared to suggest that the presence of the PXA27x would mean the Unviersal definitely has host functionality - I was correcting that.
BTW - don't assume either that the Universal has USB 2.0 - I've not seen a single report that it does - and though the PXA27x does support it - only one Pocket PC with that processor has, to date, implemented it.
Remember - the XDA IIi has a PXA272 processor - and has USB Client 1.1 only and no USB host.
No answer yet?
Come on people!
Surely, there are several testers on this forum already..
Why haven't you tested this yet?
who are the testers?
i havent seen any
but then i'm a bat
well one problem with testing i guess is getting the cable
guess it would need usbA or B depending on the type of usb mass storage controller in one end and a universal connector in the other
if no such cable came with the device then
maybe people would have to make the cable themselvs
usb hosting
Well dudes, I sent an email to clubimate techsupport asking them about usb hosting capability, still waiting for an answer... maybe if enough people email them, they will take notice and put it in their faq or whatever...
greetings
Nabil H
I tired on my JASJAR and didn't work...
At least JASJAR has the usbd.dll and usbhid.dll.
i will try tonight
mda pro -> mini usb -> mini usb -> creative Zen micro Mass storage 5 gig
i've already tried this.
jasjar-miniUSB w/ USB A-USB A-B gender changer-USB B->external harddisk.
nothing happens
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nothing happens
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Can you connect a keyboard and tell us
what will happen ?
Edit: I'm not a microsoft expert, but if there
is a background program like activesync that
forces the port to slave mode, then nothing should
happen.
I don't remember its name, but this program
should be killed.
I read that engadget was able to get USB hosting working on the universal, however it appears that this is not possible (reading the threads here). I just wanted to confirm that using a 'usb dongle' to connect other devices to the universal does not work - as I thought that wm5 did support this. Is it just a question of drivers or is the hardward not capable?
Just to remind that topic...
I'm really interested is it possible to connect a portable harddrive to my MDA Pro?
i dun think so its true. If anybody proves this to be true, then please let us know.
noname_nick: have you found the engadget article?
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@Vijay555,
It was a Q&A article they posted when they had just received the Universal. Should be there in their archives i guess.
Cheers.
I just checked with an sd card reader and a 40gig usb hdd....it didn't detect either :-(
don't think the universal supports usb hosting :-(
hope its just a software handicap and not a hardware one!
San
universaldoc said:
@Vijay555,
It was a Q&A article they posted when they had just received the Universal. Should be there in their archives i guess.
Cheers.
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yeah I even posted in that engadget article asking to reconfirm their findings and thry did reply saying it could be used as a usb host as they had it dine themseves (it was one of the factors that made me get the universal) alas the dumbfuc*ers removed the ABILITY for usb host or maybe engadget was Forced to say yes(as in LIED) under pressure from htc etc??
just my 2 cents !
If I'm not mistaken, the hardware in the Universal supports USB Host. But it is not implemented in the software running on the Universal... It's like having a sound-card in your computer, but with no drivers to use it. Maybe there will be a patch or update for WM5 which supports USB Host.
Suspect that you need a USB host cable to have any chance of testing USB host functionality, this cable tells the PDA that it now needs to work in host mode.
The Sharp Zaurus has a similar arrangement where a single USB port can work in host or slave mode, which is switched using the relevant cable, link to such a cable http://www.streamlinecpus.com/store/product.php?productid=100&cat=0&page=1&featured
Suggest you search Zaurus forum (www.oesf.org) for more information.
Mike
does anyone has this cable and test it already?
It seems it will fit the mini USB port for the Universal?
Don't think it's native on the Universal - if it was, it ain't now. In the meantime, Softick Card Export II PC version 2.10 works great as USB Host services to the Storage Card!
Yes, I use the same thing on my Uni. I like it very much as i do not need a SD card reader anymore. But I still dream to be able to hook up my external slim HDD to my Uni.
Yes, I use the same thing on my Uni. I like it very much as i do not need a SD card reader anymore. But I still dream to be able to hook up my external slim HDD to my Uni.
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noname_nick: have you found the engadget article?
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Here is the article http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/...l-questions-weve-got-htc-universal/1#comments
I found driver for Toshiba E740 USB mass storage driver ( for PPC 2002) but maybe is a best way to find solution for Universal - it's look that only soft for this funcionality is missing :?: Deje PocketPC Page
usb host.....
USB standard provide 5 volt DC.
All HTC device have got 3,7v DC battery!! so it is not possible to power any kind of USB device!!.
The only way consist in voltage duplicator that should provide 5v using 3,7 v source, i think that HTC device has not this voltage regulator.
wishes
Antonio
fraant said:
USB standard provide 5 volt DC.
All HTC device have got 3,7v DC battery!! so it is not possible to power any kind of USB device!!.
The only way consist in voltage duplicator that should provide 5v using 3,7 v source, i think that HTC device has not this voltage regulator.
wishes
Antonio
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the universal have the hw to have usb host functions but htc don't have put it to the out side world.
The mini-usb can't be used as initiator.
in thoery you could open the universal and hook another miniusb connector on the usb bus.... and then the drivers nightmare
Deje have drivers for mass-storage on ppc2003/ppc2 and they work fine.
I use both on casio-e200 and on the toshibare800.
btw:neither casio nor toshiba have 5v bateries and they work with external usb devices like keyboards mices etc, for disks i have to use external power...
bye
hello all,
Is it possible to have av-out on my wm5 device?
I have an mini usb with on the other end a red and a yellow plug.
i've already tried to connect but it just doesn't work.
is there any application i can use so i can connect to my tv via av???
My phone is a orange M600 aka prophet with latest dopod rom.
TIA
rebelish, that is just not going to work. I mean that is not a PC usb port. First its a mini-usb, second its not got all the WinXP functions which enable it to be so.
What might be a solution is to have a SD Socket AV-out (haven't seen any), or even try it through wifi... There is a program (forgot the name) which transfers the picture to the PC through wifi, but probably does not work for video.
Cheers.
A.) most PDA USB ports are slave, meaning normal addons will not work on them
B.) there are indeed SDIO cards that provide a VGA/AV output
The only pda I've seen with video out is the Dell x51v. I'm guessing it's a fair custom job, using more than just a mini-usb cable.
ok Thanks everybody for all the clear answers.
I do think it's a shame that we don't have that function already in our pocketpc's but than again we can't have it all.
I think i'am going for the bluetooth pal adaptor now because with that one can do the job wireless and i can show my 2Mega pixel pics on my tv screen.
everybody thanx again
cheers
I have a Scuba Diving computer that I use via IrDA on the Dell Axim that my X1 has just been purchased to replace.
Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to use an external USB IrDA dongle with the X1. I've only seen Windows XP/Vista drivers listed against these dongles.
What would be involved in developing a driver?
This might be tricky, as I read somewhere on the forum that the USB port is not powered, and therefore connecting dongles (including e.g. USB drives) is difficult.
The last I saw was that it might have been possible to connect the X1 to a powered port adapter, into which USB dongles were attached.
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
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Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
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Sounds like a useful suggestion. Could you point me to the type of device you mention.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
Rudegar said:
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
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You're right on this one. It's not possible to connect USB devices to the X1 because there's no host. Even with a seperate power source, the X1 will not recognize it. Look at it this way, whenever you connect the X1 through USB, it'll act as a slave, waiting for input. Dongles need input themselves, so both devices will keep waiting for each other forever... It's like a bad fairytale!
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... It's like a bad fairytale!
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This this the sort of device that might enable Price Charming (the new name for my X1) to get together with Cinderella (the new name for my lonely, but very beautiful Dive computer)?
It s a little strange but seems like no one in this forum tried to connect usb devices to our phone since zeno usb host driver has been released.I tried to search in google but no one tried in acer s200...Are there anyone that know if it work before i try it by myself?
I've tried it
HI, i have tried it with a 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, usb flash storage. But it seems not to work. It don't shows me another device in the explorer (win explorer or resco explorer)
Maybe someone have tried it succesfully?
external power is required, see usb-host scheme by dcordes... keep in mind, however, that hd2's got a micro-usb connector
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external power is required, see usb-host scheme by dcordes... keep in mind, however, that hd2's got a micro-usb connector
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Hi tsamolotoff,
the usb host work properly:
Yes i built a usb cable with external power supply.I ve made a cable that supply 5v to the device i want to attach to the s200,but only the two data lines go to the phone.But this afternoon i ve read a german forum and someone said that in some cases (nokia) the usb host cable must supply 5v even to the pocket pc,and i want to try by this way.Stefano wich cable have you made to get the s200 found the usb mouse and the pen drive in linux kernel?Do you think that with zeno drivers we can use the usb host even in windows?
Stefano_1986_
Interesting, however, it'd more exciting if it worked under wince (did you check?)
Axel85 said:
Stefano wich cable have you made to get the s200 found the usb mouse and the pen drive in linux kernel?
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This is my cable:
Axel85 said:
Do you think that with zeno drivers we can use the usb host even in windows?
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Stefano_1986_
Interesting, however, it'd more exciting if it worked under wince (did you check?)
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I have checked but not working
ok almost like mine.This morning with this cable and zeno drivers i ve noticed that if you connect a device like a pen drive,the screen turn on backlight,and it s not for the fact that i attached the cable with 5v,the tension is always present in the usb cable.So maybe the hardware feel the new device but have not the correct drivers to control
What is the solution I have the same problem
so all, what's the solution then? if I want to conect my F1 to a CF card reader? how to use external power...
It doesn t work under windows mobile...This is the solution.
It only work via linux kernel (tested a mouse a keyboard and a usb drive),but since no android build is avaible for s200 you can t use it.
So usb host is supported by s200 hardware,but it s locked in windows mobile kernel and can t be changed.this is a really great stupid thing i know...but sadly it s the true
Guru correct me if i writed something wrong
maybe it can work now, coz Android can be loaded in S200...
I just think if my S200 can read the photos from CF card reader...
yes sure we can make it work under linud distros or android as proved by stefano some month ago