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I am very new to this high tech stuff, I have a usa t-mobile mda vaio, which i paid to unlock. I know, i could have done it for free, but i could not figure it out. In doing some reading i think i want to unlock my cid, and i want to turn my omapclock speed up to 240. And what about updating my Rom. And how do i back up my file, if necessary. And please easy directions if possible. My phone is off, because of a $4000 dollar internet bill, because they would not give me the code, when i went overseas and used the internet for 7 days. What a surprise. But my wifi still works. Help please.
Rom version: 1.8.10.2 wwe
Rom date: 12/10/05
Radio version: 01.09.10
Protocal vers: 4.0.13.20
ExtRom vers: 1.8.10.104
I dont have a clue as to what this means, but it looks old, compared to everyone else.
wow
wow, what a great forum. I have a million responses. I want to say thank you for all who helped.
this has all has been covered elsewhere, ad nauseum, over and over and over again right here on this very site. Spending a little time looking for things like "omapclock" and then reading them will answer all your questions and then some. For the-universe-revolves-around-me service, they take paypal.
MDA Vaio? So you're saying that Sony and HTC teamed up to build a laptop/Pocket PC hybrid? I'd like to know where I can get my hands on one of these.
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crusher11590 said:
wow, what a great forum. I have a million responses. I want to say thank you for all who helped.
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People won't help you because its already been said. Your just a waste of bandwidth. You sound like a little kid, i want this, i want that.
You want to OC' 240, then keep reading that thread noob.
AND THE SARCASM WAS NECCESARY, maybe that's why no body is helping. No one is your slave to check every minute and answer your post. :evil:
people here seem to think that lazy people should die, when in all reality theyre just as lazy.
to cid unlock it you need ot get lokiwiz software. if youve already upgraded to 2.26, its too late to cid unlock it. to overclock, get omapclock.exe. i use that program in conjunction with smartskeys personally, because the smartskeys.ini file has customizable overclock settings.
thats a start partner, but youll hafta do the legwork yourself cuz im lazy too haha
Thank you. For the response. The only other thing that i have done is down load skype which i think is great. I can admit i am not a computer geek, but I am great in my field. Mortgage financing. So yes i am clueless, and could maybe use a little extra help. And if there is someone out there who could use some mortgage help. I am here. I just dont want to fry my mda.
Search Search Search
Read Read Read
Doesn't matter if you're clueless. As long as you can use the search functions, and bother to take some time to read thru the endless amount of information in these forums. Then you too can be as logical as I have become in the past few months when I originally didn't know a damn thing.
Thanks again. This is the program i used to unlock the phone. http://www.imei-check.co.uk/m3000unlock.php. Did this also unlock the cid? And if yes, how can i tell? And what about backing up the program. So based on the spec's i have listed on my phone, what should i up grade, beside's the omapclock i think to 240.
Well you ddint' need to waste your money. You can unlock your phone for free if you would have bothered to search and read through the results.
Search -> CID Unlock -> Choose wizard forum to search through
Search -> Backup -> Choose wizard forum to search through
You either seem to be lacking common sense or need your hand held through every step.
lol.
crusher11590 said:
Thank you. For the response. The only other thing that i have done is down load skype which i think is great. I can admit i am not a computer geek, but I am great in my field. Mortgage financing. So yes i am clueless, and could maybe use a little extra help. And if there is someone out there who could use some mortgage help. I am here. I just dont want to fry my mda.
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yah im a scientist, and im in a similar boat... to my fortune, my roommate is computer programmer hah
and mpIII man, rome is dead go get in your ****in time machine if ya want buttsex :lol: ****in dillhole
guys take in mind some people (like my Dad for example which 65 yrs old) is courious 'bout new stuff but is slow to understand internet and Mobile hacking upgrading and so on...
sometimes because we dnt know who's hidden behind a nickname I would invite you to be more polite and nice; on the other hand I know its boring to answer always to same question...
so just check case by case and if you really feel like its frustrating t oanswer...dnt answer at all...isnt wasting of time to type a reply blaming this and blaming that?
just IMHO
Giordano
How on earth did you rack up $4000 internet bill?
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How on earth did you rack up $4000 internet bill?
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Have you not read all this, he is clueless! Sorry i am in the look and you will findout. I come on here everyday and I find something new. But i started from not knowing a thing!! but now I can show my friends these cool things. IT's not hard to look and learn.
Just Maybe.................
Just a quick suggestion to any moderators or site managers
These "Why dont you use the search function" threads come up time and time again.
The problem for noobs doing a search is the (sometimes) many many pages of post to wade through.
Even if you happen to chance on the exact answer, how do you know you have found it when one thread may contain 3,4 or 5 examples of how to solve a problem??? I give an example, Tomtom 6, or any gps related problem.
I spent a total of 4hrs 10mins on MSN with one user who was having problems with his GPS and TT. I didn't mind in the least, but after lots of hair tearing, we found the problem was his GPS wasnt in a place to recieve a decent GPS signal, i.e. a window cill. :shock:
Joking aside, is there any way of having either locked stickies or a seperate forum for each device to have HOW TO's??
There are many people on here that could easily write a guide, post it and then have it locked so the thread doesn't spiral out of control.
Maybe some of them would be happy to recieve PM's if there was a legitimate problem with either that guide or for the varying device configurations?
And before I get flamed, Its just a suggestion. :wink:
Jerry I agree 100%. This is the one of the forums I have found that does NOT have stickies for often asked about topics.
I also feel that this site needs a kick in the ass with a little patience.
You can tell none of these people work in customer service. THink of it this way...if you are spending 4 or more hours on here a day you are passionate about this topic and you would think you want others to become passionate too which will advance the demand for more of these type of sites and products. You really think giving these noobs as you call them a hard time when they first try and learn about this stuff will help anyone? Except save you precious time to search something else or maybe give you a chance to bust another noobs dreams of learning something about his/her new gadget.
This is the only reason I do not visit this site. Not that I need it but none the less. A real bunch of asses here if you ask me.....
Guys and Girls
The use search is a true pain in the ass if you dont understand what you are doing. It has its own laws and also words that it will never find. I have been here for a year and I still cant work it out. But I agree its a start. Nothing will change untill we move to new software for the fixxing is just to costly.
Sure the same post and answer comes up on this forum, over and over agian. There are still people that spend the time to point people in the right direction.
Stickys, well we have them and still they are not read, more we have more time it takes to move down the list for some meat.
Solution. WIKI, edit the pages and the information and point people to it.
And please, lets see if we can use some nice language, I am all for free speach but we all diserve a bit of respect.
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...You can tell none of these people work in customer service.{/quote]
perhaps they do work in customer serice - for orange :lol:
sorry, i tried to stop myself...
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Dunno what people's beef is on here ?
Yes there are new members and so on, but some of the foul mouthed attacks I have seen here is disgraceful.
If your mother/wife/daughter or whatever logged on here would you want her to be subjected to such abuse ? No? Thought so!
Tone it down please - if you don't have anything constructive to add to a post, don't bother.
If it makes you feel better about yourself because you feel superior as you know more about HTC/Windows mobile etc. than other people - go back to your ZX81 or whatever but please stop the swearing and nastiness.
Sorry, just never seen such animosity on a forum in my life!
I wish I could say I feel your pain man, but I am a noob as well however I feel the more seasoned vets on here are just tired of the same stupid repetitive questions typically posted by none other than us new guys. I am not saying its right but the way I see it, its kinda like having a little brother or sister that keeps asking the same question over and over and over again while your trying to get something done. My occupation is sales and has been for almost a decade and the first thing I always try and do is look at something from all sides. In doing this it A) Makes me do a search before asking and B) Not feel as bad if I get checked by someone. Just my .42. Additionally I have found if I really cannot find something then I will pm someone I feel is approachable and let them educate me.
From what I have seen lately, the "abuse" has toned down big time around here, were you recently flamed or something, that made you think this?
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If your mother/wife/daughter or whatever logged on here would you want her to be subjected to such abuse ? No? Thought so!
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bit sexist
Truly!
ChaoticDruid said:
From what I have seen lately, the "abuse" has toned down big time around here, were you recently flamed or something, that made you think this?
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I agree. The replies on this site have become MUCH more mature, helpful, and professional in the last few weeks.
I hope you're not referring to 'now' ... or maybe you're reading through the historical posts to avoid getting flamed.
This is another reason why, no matter how many times a question's been asked, the old-timers should carefully think about the legacy their words will leave behind on these forums.
I find the repeated questions unbearable sometimes, too. But the historical traces of the blatant abusive and immature replies will live with these boards for a very long time, making it unlikely that anyone will like to search for an answer before posting the same question over and over and over and....
-pvs
swtaltima said:
I wish I could say I feel your pain man, but I am a noob as well however I feel the more seasoned vets on here are just tired of the same stupid repetitive questions typically posted by none other than us new guys.
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They make the choice to read the questions then respond in an abusive manor. Its not like a brother or sister who hunt you down to annoy you. I have tried searching for a good tutorial on how to build packages and what not to build my own ROM but the usual thread I see is, "Google It and learn it the way I did." It almost like no one really wants to share their knowledge on certain areas of ROM building. I've tried googling etc. But I have still not run across a decent tutorial. I'd be willing to help make a tutorial if I knew the complete process. I've seen others claim this forum is for XDA "developers" and if you are not a developer you should look elsewhere for "help." The only way to become a developer is to learn. Most people learn by reading and asking questions. I just don't understand why people insist on berating others for asking innocent questions. I have searched for answers before and not found it. Then later I am reading a thread and I do see the answer to my question but it was not worded the way I say things possible because of language differences. So it slipped throught the cracks of the search. Should I be verbally abused for asking my question? Probably not, especially seeing as how the diversity on this forum is great. Many different primary languages and knowledge levels. It seems like before ROM cooking for Hermes was possible people were all fine and cordial with each other. Then boom, cooked ROMs became possible and it turned into if you cant help me finish my ROM and let me put the donte link in my signature I don't want to help you.
Well thats my take.
PS- if someone helps me grasp the art of ROM building I will make a tutorial and do my best to make it simple to understand for everybody.
Jokinawa
There are still a few bad apples around thou & most of us know them but just keep to our selfs, too much of that n00b flame go read wiki or search google, they can tell you to read the wiki but too lazy to type a quick fast reply to a simple question....
I just wanna know but have my replies been helpful?? :s
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They make the choice to read the questions then respond in an abusive manor. Its not like a brother or sister who hunt you down to annoy you. I have tried searching for a good tutorial on how to build packages and what not to build my own ROM but the usual thread I see is, "Google It and learn it the way I did." It almost like no one really wants to share their knowledge on certain areas of ROM building. I've tried googling etc. But I have still not run across a decent tutorial. I'd be willing to help make a tutorial if I knew the complete process. I've seen others claim this forum is for XDA "developers" and if you are not a developer you should look elsewhere for "help." The only way to become a developer is to learn. Most people learn by reading and asking questions. I just don't understand why people insist on berating others for asking innocent questions. I have searched for answers before and not found it. Then later I am reading a thread and I do see the answer to my question but it was not worded the way I say things possible because of language differences. So it slipped throught the cracks of the search. Should I be verbally abused for asking my question? Probably not, especially seeing as how the diversity on this forum is great. Many different primary languages and knowledge levels. It seems like before ROM cooking for Hermes was possible people were all fine and cordial with each other. Then boom, cooked ROMs became possible and it turned into if you cant help me finish my ROM and let me put the donte link in my signature I don't want to help you.
Well thats my take.
PS- if someone helps me grasp the art of ROM building I will make a tutorial and do my best to make it simple to understand for everybody.
Jokinawa
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By the way, they do hunt people down with PM, e-mail, IM, etc...
Here my take
The Art of ROM building does not happen overnight and it is not for everyone. You are also correct there are no A-Z tutorials on how to do it. Nonetheless, there is a lot of information on how to get your feet wet. It requires certain skill set in order to develop good cooked ROM.
Skill set: Search and Read both threads and wiki, Development (someone with a development background is preferred), Cab (building and extracting) PPC registry, Windows Mobile OS (understanding how things work), device infrastructure (understanding how things work with that particular device, because they are not all made equal), understanding you could brick your expensive device with the one wrong turn. Most important patience and keep you changes to a minimum until you get the hang of it.
The list of requirements can go on but I figure with the above information you should have an idea. It takes months of reading, searching, and trying things out in order to understand how to cook. While you are researching you also want to keep with new findings, that means you have to stay on top of up coming new threads. It is a crazy cycle and some of us can keep up with it but I assure you it is not for a lot PPL.
Oh, I forgot one more thing, you also have keep up with your full time job (you know, the one you get paid for).
Thank You
lpsi2000: Thank you. I almost have it down. The only issue I had was one of my apps did not make the start menu icon and I posted it in a thread directed towards one of the kitchens and thus far has been ignored for a week or so. I posted what I put in the initflashfiles.dat etc. It makes a shortcut but appears as a folder link to the /Windows directory and not a shortcut to the EXE. I will get it eventually though.
DAFTEK: I totally agree. Why say use search or the wiki when you could post a link to the search results or the exact thread.
mrvanx: Yes, you are always very helpful.
Thank You all.
jokinawa
<polish>Shines his new Senior Member badge.</polish>
I agree that is has gotten much better in the past few weeks. I also use the ignore list to block out a couple of folks who repeatedly belittle others with their uneducated and profane flaming.
Here is my take. WTF cares
you want a bucket to catch those tears?
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lpsi2000: Thank you. I almost have it down. The only issue I had was one of my apps did not make the start menu icon and I posted it in a thread directed towards one of the kitchens and thus far has been ignored for a week or so. I posted what I put in the initflashfiles.dat etc. It makes a shortcut but appears as a folder link to the /Windows directory and not a shortcut to the EXE. I will get it eventually though.
DAFTEK: I totally agree. Why say use search or the wiki when you could post a link to the search results or the exact thread.
mrvanx: Yes, you are always very helpful.
Thank You all.
jokinawa
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The way I get around some of the issues with applications not working properly, I flashed the ROM, take a copy of device registry and files then install the app on the device and then compare it to see what was changed. From there I normally address it with my cooked ROM.
I must disagree with this comment " DAFTEK: I totally agree. Why say use search or the wiki when you could post a link to the search results or the exact thread." although I have done it at time when the search is not obvious.
If you spoon feed the search every time, then the person will never learn how to search. I have seen PPL on this board expecting other people to do search for them and also provide the answers. Trust me there are a lot of lazy people on this forum.
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I just wanna know but have my replies been helpful?? :s
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Exteremely, MrVanx... EXTREMELY! Only to be outdone by your wonderful guides...easy to follow and up to date. You provide a wonderful service to these forums, and I always look forward to your posts.
Sorry I haven't yet made a donation in your direction. It will be coming soon.
All the best,
-pvs
austinsnyc said:
Here is my take. WTF cares
you want a bucket to catch those tears?
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Easy there bro... that kinda attitude got the elf kicked out of the house...
You know I would go easy just everytime my faith is restored in the people here the stupid bug seems to bite again. like asking questions that where answerd in a post right above or someone wanting to be spoon fed its almost to the point where no one wants to do anything for themselves. that's pretty sad if you ask me im sure most of the cooks here did not receive the amount of help that has been given in just the past month. I understand helping people but I also understand earning respect and until that's done give me a reason why I should spoon feed when there is a search button and google.
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I just wanna know but have my replies been helpful?? :s
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pretty obvious answer(s)
why create another thread in 'Hermes Mobile 6', this should be put in the 'General Section'
and as far as i have seen it the abuse has been dramatically in the past few weeks
Sometimes the abuse is (IMHO) justified.
This post generally makes my blood boil http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311698 - the asshole keeps appearing in many guises, doesn't want to help but only make money. If this is the first post you see when you log on you get pissed off, then get carried away with the 'Flashing LSVW bricked my V3' type of threads.
In my opinion, ronfin44 was perfectly justified in (mildly) flaming this guy.
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I just wanna know but have my replies been helpful?? :s
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Awww fishing for praise now? ahhahah!
Of course it's been helpful.. Honestly, I'm pretty impressed with the impartial, well thought replies that you always give.
[mumbles]Wish I could say the same for me hee hee![/mumbles]
I have noticed in a couple of threads that there seems to be a large amount of, shall i say, lazy people.
Neglecting to use the search function, disrespecting others who are fed up answering the same questions again and again.
It seems they can't (or are simply to lazy to) read, use the search button or even common sense
Well i recall a small little flash movie i saw once upon a time on the steam forums. After a little searching with my mate GOOGLE i found it again.
No Reason for lazy people now No Reading involved, just sit back and watch this little "movie"
Ok, ok before anyone starts flaming me with crap like (but thats about the steam forums blabla) The Information affects every forum as everyone of them also has a search function
It's a bit to big to post here, but i guess even the newest noob knows how to use a link
http://www.ptokax.ch/posting.html
Hopefully we can keep the Threads a little bit less bloated now ?!?
hmm 105 views and not a single reply (good or bad)
i must of hit the spot then looks like a few here got a bad conscience? hehe
b e a u t i f u l
Is it ok if I add this to my signature??
ive said this before and ended up getting flamed by angry noobs accusing me of being "elitist"
Great video!!
!! Do I have permission to post on other forums? I'm admin. on several, lmk, Thanks,, I will give you credit,,,,Quig
that is the best think i have seen on the internet. KUDOS
Nice and certainly CLEAR!
tks
indeed feel free to use
Good hearty belly laugh!
A bit before my time but, all that film needed was an old lady
at an organ and an usher with a flashlight. Maybe even an
couple of old men yelling from the balcony!
No really, it was great.
Keep up the good work!
Wonderful & Entertaining!
This is a very useful and entertaining film - it would be great if you could make it required watching with every new registration.
I believe the REAL issue is that people don't know how to best perform searches by utilizing keywords. Say I'm having an issue with my z plantronics bluetooth headset on my HTC HD2 Leo phone - providing all the relevant search terms, model numbers, etc an including "xda dev" (or other forums) can put you where you need to be better than "plantronics headset". And using googles image link can help you determine your model - a picture is worth a million web pages. My, hopefully relevant, contribution.
Why are some answers rude . If a person posts without giving it much fore thought and an answer appears to be self evident what do you gain by calling them stupid or giving a "Snotty" answer. In my opinion the person make the rude comments are showing there own stupidity. If a person makes an obvious error you can politely bring it to there attention without name calling.
I think the biggest problem here in xda is people dont search.. People ask questions that have been asked loads of times.
What a stupid question!!!
How dare you clog up the boards with this rubbish!!!
Just kidding mate
Its like my dear old mum used to say...
"Some people are just dicks"
Sent From My Toaster Using A Tin Can And Some String
BTW it's "impolite"
I think I'll vent a little here, if you don't mind..
.. but as Shum97 said, people don't search. The forum search may not be up to scratch or hard to navigate for new visitors, but it is there. Maybe having an even bigger and glaring button SEARCH would help leviate some of the [Q]this-[Q]that topics which don't get past the 5 post stage.
Another way of searching is to use Google and add "xda" into your search query. Try searching up "xda unpolite hd2" and see if you can get back to this thread (not directed at you OP).
Now a major point I think is worth mentioning:
Notice the transition of Apple iPods and iPhones from a somewhat unknown in the early 2004-05's to a global sensation beyond? Also notice an increase in "iPhone is da best ur fone cnt beat it ha!" and / or "ZOMG sum1 help me wif my prob plueeeeeeze". Once devices start becoming popular beyond the moderate / advanced computer-literate customers it starts becoming a nightmare to browse any useful comments amongst the sea of flamers and fanboys.
I think that's what is happening to the HD2. Due to its massive screen (seems size is what average joes think about) and the moderate but decent exposure by xda users, this phone in particular by HTC has begun to gain in popularity. Likewise, the phenomenon with the increase in popularity (leads to) the increase in irritating posts on this forum (or any forum really).
How to solve this?
Answering much of the questions in the Questions forum could help stem the overflow of [Q] or even [Req] topics into other forums. The reason why they are spilling over is nobody wants to answer endless questions with virtually no information and endless repetition. How to deal with that? I don't know..
And believe it or not, how you construct and word your questions can be determinate of your response time and how engaged the responder is to your query.
Questions like this..
Hey all, I am having problems with the bluetooth settings on my international HD2 (stock WWE 1.61). When connecting to my Sony Ericsson HSH925, the prompt mentions driver x missing. After browsing through some other topics, there seems to be a conflict between program x and y which causes this driver to be erased. I have tried the drivers from the other topics but they were all for ROMs before 1.61. Would anyone have a fix for this or would we have to wait for HTC to release an updated driver?
.. will most likely get answered and stay on track.
Questions like this..
HLP I CNT CONNECT MY BT HEADSET 2 MY HD2 I tried connecting thru da menu but it not work. Srry if its been asked b4 srry if its been asked b4 srry if its been asked b4 srry if its been asked b4csrry if its been asked b4 srry if its been asked b4 srry if its been asked b4 srry if its been asked b4 help me PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS *bump* *bump* *bump* *bump* *bump* *bump* *bump* *bump*
.. will most likely be ignored.
The other possibility (and this is to the extreme, but not necessarily impossible), is that advanced users / developers / testers will move off to another site, leaving this forum to wash away in endless never-finished topics. An example I like to compare to is remember (if anyone's old enough) how downloading (by that I mean illegal downloading of pirated material unfortunately), was a sort of niche, a nerdy / geeky past-time who nobody below a Major in IT would understand? Then it slowly become popular over time, and then rose sites such as Kasaa, then LimeWire, then torrent sites. Where next? Because it has become so popular, it has also attracted the flack of anti-piracy regulators (rightly-so) which just never would of happened had it remained secluded and nobody-knew-about-it-basis. I "think" the next big thing would be VPNs and proxys, but you ain't hear nothing from me.
Anyway I hope the forums don't turn out to be what the X1 forums are now (which I was a proud owner of). And to go back to the OP, I guess on behalf of xda to the wider non-tech-savvy community, we aren't angry or unpolite by nature, we are just tired of answered questions and one-line flame comments silluetting out the actual developments and hacking topics that has made the HD2 greater than it ever was.
*going to troll the Questions forum now*
I'm with btyeh on this one.
a big tip is when using google, try typing:
site:xda-developers.com [your search terms here]
i.e.
site:xda-developers.com hd2 unpolite
The top search result should be this topic.
I've been an avid user of these boards for quite a while, and encourage people to help others (as I do), but it doesn't work if people don't bother to try and help themselves first.
You wouldn't get much help if you rang a support line and said "it's broken, fix it"
Its not easy to help someone with so little detail.
What is broken?
How is it broken?
What has happened to it recently/has anything changed?
I've noticed a much larger number of topics that are repeating, and quite frankly, its making me think twice about even looking at the site, let alone bother to take the time to respond to the 4th topic of the same problem on page 1 alone.
If it chaps your "delicates", why answer? Why even look? skip the thread and go on about your day instead of being a complete prick to some stranger.
Sad thing about the internet, is that because it's through the safety of a terminal, people have sacrificed manners and common sense.
If you don't want XDA to become the next youtube-comments site, then learn to not be a search-nazi. The annoying people asking annoying questions will go away or learn to ask the right questions.
btyeh
I really value the time it took to post that. Specially when 9 out of 10 of my post go ignored. I could post something here or in another forum and it would be the same result.
I usually provide a lot of detail and thats because I really want to show that I've done my research. Doing my own research shows to me that I value others time.
I will have to agree that a lot of flames start by the person failing to search.
So now we have a delimma.
Those who arse are chapped by the insane amount of double and tripple post are asked to ignore it and move on. Those who post these topics are asked to do searches and not double post.
No one puts their foot down and says dont flame or your banned. No one puts their foot down and says do a search or be banned.
I know that sounds harsh but I think both needs addressing. The site needs to get under control the amount of first timers who ask questions and dont bother to do a search. The site also needs to put the jerks flamers and a-holes in check also myself included.
I guess my beef is I mostly have to search for these things myself. I think its only fair that someone else have to do the same. Atleast show some effort.
I am making a effort to not to be a jerk to new memebers. I Actually wont answer the thread if i think i am going to be mean.
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btyeh
I am making a effort to not to be a jerk to new memebers. I Actually wont answer the thread if i think i am going to be mean.
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I think we all make this effort.. but to some dudes.. its just the wrong day.. like i avoided answering this thread because i think its the most whiney ass man on man sex **** i have ever heard in my life to write a thread crying about how someone was/ is inpolite to you or someone else on a forum..
but here i am.
I think its not just the way we answer new folks though but the way the questions are asked...
when there is a thread called
"Question"
regardless what comes when you open it.. the dude deserves to get flamed.. for not even prefacing us with what a question was about.. and wasting time space and bandwidth just to pacify his own simple.. ignorance.
This being said.. a newer person posted a Question the other day and less than 4 hours later was *****ing no one answered him yet... yea i made a smart ass comment about him being a **** for expecting people to answer him in a manner of seconds.. but i also answered him. .and tried my best to help him with his issue..
i guess what im saying.. is as the theoretical knowledgeable portion of this forum we are probably going to flame ignorant questions... but we need to try and answer the questions at the same time..
Yea you might call someone an idiot for asking an idiotic question.. but if you are gonna take the time to flame.. take the time to point them the right direction while your at it.
conantroutman said:
sent from my toaster using a tin can and some string
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two camels in a tiny car!
Because i did my due diligence and search like anyone who's tech savvy enough with an ounce of logic (and if you're not those type, you shouldn't be involved with ROM flashing and should just stick with stock ROM), so I don't see how that gives other people the free pass to post whatever their hearts desire without giving us some background to their problems.
Sure, I've seen threads where people were unsure of their problems but they post a laundry list with background info, pics, ROM version, etc....yet there are others who simply post "HD2 froze...phone wont get past white screen." I'm sorry, but stupidity and lack of awareness are not excuses for you to post whatever you want. What's funny are the people who complain about the "unpolite"ness every week, yet are still as shortsightedness as the people who post without any measurable contents.
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I have problem with my htc hd 2 rom 19.4 leo . I can't send or recieve e-mails. Can someone help me?
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Just answered this one over in Q&A.
Could have been rude, but that wouldn't help him with his email problem, wouldn't have made him more likely to provide background in the future, only would have made me an asshole.
When he reply's back with the proper background info, I will try my best to help him, and then kindly bring to his attention that in the future he should search twice , then gather the apropriate background info, then post his question.
The old carrot and stick technique usually provides the best results for all.
Plus the reason he didn't post all the background info may be because he has been trying for an hour to get it to work, and may be upset that he is not able to get important emails tomorrow at work.
Being rude to people is an easy way, and easy ways usually don't pay.
There is seldom ever a reason to be unpolite
There's a couple things not mentioned so far that also contribute to the impoliteness:
Often the people who would reply have done so already for another person, and are now fed up seeing the same question.
If you've been around here for as long as some of us, or have been on a device thread since it was new, you've seen the same question asked possibly hundreds of times. How many new threads ask how to flash? Or "HELP! I'VE BRICKED MY PHONE"?
I don't remember ever opening a thread to ask a question, I just know that someone else has already asked it, and it has been answered already, I just gotta find it. Even a lot of googling is quicker than waiting for a reply anyway.
On the other side, there are some things which can be annoying about these responses, that is:
When the answer is buried in a ROM thread, and there is no dedicated thread to the problem.
or
There are more threads about the problem which say "search for 'x'", than there are actual threads with solution 'x', making searching unlikely to give the results you want. Often there is only one small thread, such as the disabling the HTC customisations thread which is only a few pages.
or
The search terms are not obvious (such as the same thread already mentioned) if you don't know the details of the problem, or the answer very well, then it can be hard to know what to search for.
I think compared to other forums ive seen XDA is by far the best almost everybody is really helpfull a few bad apples though just like every forum. But I think everyone needs to be patient to n00bs as we have all been there. I too have been guilty of posting without searching but thats since has changed.
Eitherway you guys on XDA rock
I hope you moderators are happy with this format, cause there's so much info hitting this forum I don't know how anyone keeps up with it all? I never realized how big the GS3 forum was yet alone how much info comes into XDA as a whole you guys have a big job keeping on top of it all, I commend you. I don't however think you all should be subjecting us to this torture! AND NOW NO SEARCH WHATSOEVER, nice! I tried to go back and just look in a couple threads I had posted in, lord only knows how many pages deep they are back! and when I tried to pull up the section with MY posts..."Sorry the search function is not available" it tells me!
You guys need to really re-think this combined confloguration and separate the carriers back out.......PLEASE! :crying:
This has been covered numerous times, chances are its going to stay this way. I for one have no issues searching or finding any thread, including where I left at on the app and online.