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Syncing poutlook to an online calendar/contact manager?

Is anyone here managing their contact or calendar via an online solution such as Kiko or Gmail?
I've tried many different solution and none seem really convenient. Gmail contacts won't sync with the universal unless you go through outlook as an intermediary, losing some of the data in the process (gmail groups are not recognized by outlook).
I'm just looking for something that's convenient and works. I intend to use my universal as the only 'offline' source of info + an online repository, but no desktop solution (as I'm always on the go and don't use a desktop).
TIA!

I'm going to partially update my own post:
This tool:
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=sync&dir=wm
seem to sync plaxo contacts to a pocket pc. That's a start. Does anyone knows anything similar?

I use Airset for my online calendar, but I sync it to my desktop outlook. They do have a java thingy for mobiles though, and the tmobile MDA Vario and SDA.
I've not tried that, but I'd imagine it keeps everything in the applet, rather than hooking up with wm5 calendar. Could be worth a look though.

I think I might have found a solution to my problem.
Apparently Yahoo Mail supports intellisync, which syncs straight to the PDA from the online repository (notes, calendar and contacts apparently)
That's exciting stuff, especially with the new Yahoo mail beta that's going on (much better interface, 1gig of space).
As an extra bonus Yahoo mail also supports plaxo sync (gmail doesn't)
I'll give it a try and will let you know.

Right, didn't work either. Now I think my last option is a hosted exchange service with a web interface.

... which I did and it works wonders. Seems to be the only solution out there for the people looking forward to rid of the dated 'desktop-centric' paradigm.
So now I got gmail address -> 4smartphone , using gmail as a spam filter. When replying the emails I send appear to come from my gmail account, rather than the forwarding address (brilliant!).
So far I've only tried to sync over wire, which worked great (minus a few quirks here and there but nothing dreadful).
It's brilliant and cost only a few quids a month.

Online Sync Server

Does anyone know the name of any server software that works the same as MS Exchange.
I don't need Push email, all I NEED is the contact, calendar sync. email is optional but preferable. Sort of like ZYB but with email.
I don't mind if it runs or windows or linux as long as it just works.
edit: sorry, just realized this was posted in the wrong forum.

try mail2web.com that is essentially FREE exchange server online, will do all, including mail aggrigation, ie it'll collect mail from other email accounts aswell.

I signed up for that but the support over there told me there was no way to upload/import my contacts to my address book on their server. My contacts wouldn't sync automatically either so I closed my account over there.

rashed2020 said:
I signed up for that but the support over there told me there was no way to upload/import my contacts to my address book on their server. My contacts wouldn't sync automatically either so I closed my account over there.
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You do have all your contact currently on your PDA isnt it? therefore by the first sync all your contact should be copied to server. sorry If I dont understand your problem.

no you're right bulldog, you understood my problem.
The contacts didn't sync though and when I spoke to support they made it seem like the contacts aren't supposed to sync.
What am I doing wrong??

Ok, found a way to upload the contacts but theres a 100 contacts limit and I've got more than 100.
So solution still pending...

i have a question about mail2web.com:
i have my account and i managed to enable an email filter from to provider acror to mail2web. also i let outlook2k7 to leave the messages on the pop3 server. so i could download all my mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
i added the exchange server to my activesync on my htc prophet and it synced over air very fine. i get new mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
but sadly it looks like this exchange server doesn't support html mails
i just get only normal text mail over the exchange server. did i something wrong, or does their exchange servers not support this WM6 feature?

to sort of solve my own problem.. Kerio Mailserver does everything exchange does.. just requires a small proggie installed with outlook

rashed2020 said:
to sort of solve my own problem.. Kerio Mailserver does everything exchange does.. just requires a small proggie installed with outlook
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and your PC to be on all the time!

rashed2020 said:
Ok, found a way to upload the contacts but theres a 100 contacts limit and I've got more than 100.
So solution still pending...
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I never had any problems syncing my 400+ contacts !!!

LordDeath said:
i have a question about mail2web.com:
i have my account and i managed to enable an email filter from to provider acror to mail2web. also i let outlook2k7 to leave the messages on the pop3 server. so i could download all my mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
i added the exchange server to my activesync on my htc prophet and it synced over air very fine. i get new mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
but sadly it looks like this exchange server doesn't support html mails
i just get only normal text mail over the exchange server. did i something wrong, or does their exchange servers not support this WM6 feature?
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mail2web servers dont support PUSH HTML....just text... and kiero doesnt support HTML either...

Carnivore:
That's not a problem since its always on as it is! Plus, thinking of getting a VPS so thatll make life easier.
Shaile:
Are you using the free or paid version? I was experimenting with the free one and I couldn't seem to upload more than 100.
Walsh:
Don't really need HTML, nor do I want it. So kerio not supporting HTML is a feature if you look at it from my side =P

Mail2Web configure PDA
I read an article today about Mail2Web and wanted to try it before I recommend it for any of our users. The article said there was a configuration file/program - have anyone of you seen this file - or know how I configure a PDA towards Mail2Web ?

I haven't personally tried it yet...
http://www.funambol.com/opensource/
"Funambol is open source mobile application server software that provides push email, address book and calendar (PIM) data synchronization, application provisioning, and device management for wireless devices and PCs, leveraging standard protocols. For users, this means BlackBerry-like capabilities on commodity handsets."

I am using Kerio MailServer and it works great. No problems so far!!!
- TKN

Funambol isnt really compliant with any of the syncing standards.. Kerio looks like the best option so far as it works with activesync

Vinny75 said:
I haven't personally tried it yet...
http://www.funambol.com/opensource/
"Funambol is open source mobile application server software that provides push email, address book and calendar (PIM) data synchronization, application provisioning, and device management for wireless devices and PCs, leveraging standard protocols. For users, this means BlackBerry-like capabilities on commodity handsets."
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Thanks dude this one is cool but this one is also not free service. even mail2web has closed free service. I am planning to host Funambol to serve free sync service.
Anyone interested?

Also you can use microsoft myphone service to sync contacts.
www.myphone.microsoft.com
But if you dont want to save contacts online the I guess PIM Backup s/w you can also schedule to take backup. And this even can take backup of mails, message.

Try Google sync
Try Google sync
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=default

nuevasync is the way to go
free service does calendar and contacts from google, premiums ($25/yr) does push email.
uses activesync/exchange

How to sync e-mail!?

Hi. Im new to WinMo completely, and there is one thing i dont get. I cant sync e-mails as it says it does. For example, in my phone there is this Outclook E-Mail account which has nothing and cant be configured ot nothing. Why is it there!? i can configure other account individually like, from Gmail. But then what is this email sync that doesnt sync my emails, its nonsense! (Im pretty sure im the nonsense one here, but thats what i want you to plaz explain to me)
Ive read guides and searched on internet but nothing. I really thought that Outclook email would be reserved for the config account on my PC Outclook, but nothig happens!
Need heeelp!! Im really stressing out. Forgive my ignorance hehe

outlook mail == the mails the pda sync with outlook on your pc
activesync settings deside how old mails it sync to save space
it can't be removed
it can only be filled with mails from your outlook mail

You can use this for syncing mails with a Microsoft Exchange Server too. I use it for getting my emails directly ("Microsoft Direct Push") everywhere. If your Company (or your Administrator) doesn't provide this for you, there are some hosting provider which are providing these accounts for everyone.
In addition it syncs contacts and calendars too. With these abilities and the special features like Remote Desktop Client, Putty and VPN the Xperia ist my real mobile office .
But one thing is weird: too many people have my tel-number, so often the X1 gives strange sounds out and i have to break my relaxation...ähhmmm ...work

Push email & Outlook compatible?

Hi. Can anyone tell me please whether the Hero will have real-time 'push' email and whether it will be compatible with Outlook?
Many thanks.

it depends on which style you get I believe the sim free HTC branded ones will include exchange syncing software as standard. The "with google" branded ones dont, however there is software on the market which can do this for you anyway.

Well, I have a sim-free Hero on order, here in the UK.
I don't have a server, though - just Outlook on a single PC - would that be fine? Also - is it instant, or every 30 mins or so, like my current Nokia E71?
Thanks!

Just tested Hero ROM on my brothers G1. You can use Activesync ( sync with your local outlook via usb ) or POP email

Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...

Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Also, surely 'Activesync' is a windows programme - do you mean HTC Sync?
Thanks again...

Stuff review.
Okay, so the Stuff review seems to answer the questions.
Firstly; Some of these are basic (clocks, calendars), but many are ‘live’, pulling information through from the web to update automatically. The Nokia N97 offers similar widgets on its homescreen, but the Hero’s, most notably the excellent Twitter app, are by far the slickest and most useful we’ve used. so I am assuming that the Facebook widget is 'live'. Can anyone confirm?
More worryingly, we have this; Unlike the Magic, the Hero has native support for Microsoft Exchange, so setting up work e-mails is easy. It doesn't sync with Outlook, though there is a roundabout way of sending your contacts to Gmail, then get getting them to sync with the phone. which doesn't sound so promising. How can any new phone not sync with Outlook? Can this be true?
The full review is here; http://stuff.tv/Review/HTC-Hero-review/
Any thoughts (please?)

The facebook integration in the people application is nto real time, it is a set schedule updateof 2,4,8,12 or 24 hours.
The twitter app can be set to check every 5 minutes.
Yes, it does come with HTC Sync, but don't bother. It's just as bloody awful on the hero as it is on the HTC branded magics. Steer clear of that ****e and stick to the google or Exchange OTA Sync, both of which are push.
as for not synching with outlook (which it does but only just) the android OS is designed to sync with google over the air. that is one of it's main reasons for existing. and god knows at least it works as long as you are not on an apps domain....!

So, I guess you are saying that...
...if I want push email, because I have a pop3 account, rather than an Exchange one, I will need to somehow use gmail to push my mail to the phone?
*Sigh*
And EVERYTHING I have - contacts and calendar - is on Outlook, which you say doesn't properly sync with the Hero. Maybe I have ordered the wrong phone?
Thanks for your time...

yes you will. POP does not support push mail without some sort of third party intermediary such as Gmail, Exchange or BIS servers (blackberry).
Quite possibly you have.
Although, contacts can be copied across very simply into gmail, by exporting to a csv file and then importing that into gmail which takes about 2 minutes. and as for the calendar, google do calendar sync which syncs your outlook calendar to the gmail calendar as well.
however, from what you say, and what you want in a native outlook sync support, you'd be better off with a winmo device, and a third party hosted exchange for your pop, such as 4smartphone, or some of the guys that do it on here for a small price... that way you have the natice sync support, and also then you have your push mail.

Thank you for your help.
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...

bigbamboo5 said:
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
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You might try looking into funambol. It connects most things, to most other things.
http://my.funambol.com/
is a free intermediary online funambol server application which might do exactly what you want.

I'm trying to find out from Orange whether the HTC Hero will synchronise with exchange.
Quite frustrating that there is no clear information available.
Rob

Thanks, Trentend - I'll take a look. Also Emoze has been suggested.
Anyone tried Emoze?
I have just spoken to someone at Devicewire who seems to know the phone well and has used it a lot - he tells me the phone 'definitely syncs perfectly with Outlook'. Which is nice...

For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .

dipje said:
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
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Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...

bigbamboo5 said:
Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
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I just had a look. I can go to my gmail settings, and there is a tab 'accounts'.
In there the first section is to 'add another email address you own'. You will have to enter your current POP email address, and it will send a verification of some sort to verify the address is yours.
After that you can make that email address as 'default', and set the option to always make mail seem to come from that address, even if the mail you are replying to was sent directly to your gmail account.
I reccon that if you set an email address as 'default' there, you phone (and other) applications will also use it.
Then the only thing to do is set your current POP account to forward mail directly to your gmail account. (Not MOVE mail, but forward / copy it).
Then you have a gmail account 'invisible' to the outside world. Setting up an android phone with a gmail account should be no problem

Oooh!
Ta much!

Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App

cboyd said:
Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
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Exchange, yes - but what about Outlook?

Windows Exchange Server

Hi there
I used the search function but i couldn't find anything.
What I always missed on the Windows Mobile device is to use two exchange servers on one phone. I have my work exchange server and my private one. I always thought I cannot change that since it is not possible. But some days ago somebody at worked showed me that his Nokia phone which runs on symbian is able to do that.
I was wondering if there is any application or something else that makes it possible to have two exchange servers running on one device. The work one should just sync the E-Mails and Appointments, no contact.
Thank you very any information.

Yes there is... its call a Blackberry... bum ta bum... ok now with my joke out of the way...
Well, there is this one program... i can't promise its the best solution... but its called Funambol (funambol.com)... it is a free program that can sync with ur exchange email if i'm not mistaken... and the program creates a email tab (internet tab) on ur phone, but the program (cab file) itself u can change the auto sync settings on it...
it won't be a fast as exchange server directly but u gotta pic and choose ur battles... otherwise u need to hope someone figures out BB connect fast on the TP2

Ragedliam said:
Hi there
I used the search function but i couldn't find anything.
What I always missed on the Windows Mobile device is to use two exchange servers on one phone. I have my work exchange server and my private one. I always thought I cannot change that since it is not possible. But some days ago somebody at worked showed me that his Nokia phone which runs on symbian is able to do that.
I was wondering if there is any application or something else that makes it possible to have two exchange servers running on one device. The work one should just sync the E-Mails and Appointments, no contact.
Thank you very any information.
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You actually CAN sync with more then one Exchange server on Windows Mobile, but there are some requirements:
-Server with email has to be configured LAST
-Can only use a service once (if you use calendar on one server, you can't sync another)
-Can sync a maximum of 4 servers, one for each service: contacts, calendar, tasks, email.
-Configuring more then 1 Exchange Server breaks ActiveSync, meaning you won't be able to run ActiveSync software on the PC. You will still be able to connect and view a device through other means, My Mobiler, through My computer, etc.
Make sure you have no ActiveSync accounts setup. Goto ActiveSync and manually create a server connection to your NON-EMAIL Exchange Server. Create your Exchange through mail setup.
I personally sync my calendar and contacts from Nuevasync.com and I sync my email from my works Exchang server.

Ragedliam said:
Hi there
I used the search function but i couldn't find anything.
What I always missed on the Windows Mobile device is to use two exchange servers on one phone. I have my work exchange server and my private one. I always thought I cannot change that since it is not possible. But some days ago somebody at worked showed me that his Nokia phone which runs on symbian is able to do that.
I was wondering if there is any application or something else that makes it possible to have two exchange servers running on one device. The work one should just sync the E-Mails and Appointments, no contact.
Thank you very any information.
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If the requirement is to have Email from both accounts but just contacts and calander from one thani suggest you use Activesync and IMAP. Setup Activesync for one account and IMAP/SMTP for the other.