Sat Nav - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hello All,
Can this (O2 XDA TRION) be utilised as a sat nav with a Bluetooth GPS, and the software?
I have read the Wiki page and see about it being disable or something more technical, but it left me confused.
Many thanks.

Yes it can, just pair you bluetooth gps device to it and run your software, I use tomtom navigator 6 which works fine.

markafreeman said:
Yes it can, just pair you bluetooth gps device to it and run your software, I use tomtom navigator 6 which works fine.
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Yes that's right.
The references in the Wiki refer to attempts to get a chip in the Hermes enabled to run GPS internally without a bluetooth receiver. This failed for technical reasons but with a bluetooth device it's just fine.
Mike

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TomTom5 Navigator... HELP PLZ

hiya guys,
I just bought a tomtom navigator 5 Original Cd from a mate and installed it on my XDA II, well my nightmare turned out when i tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver and it doesnt seeem to work. The gps works superb with 6630, 6600 but it doesnt work with XDa, i donno why. a friend suggested tht it only works with a Tomtom gps receiver, is tht true.
My question is, is it possible to use any bluetooth gps receiver with XDA for tomtom or do i need a special one.
thanks for looking
I use tomtom 5 with a third party bt gps reciever, I believe it is best to update to 5.1 though. 8)
First of all, install the last version : 5.2 :wink:
exactly same problem for me. My Gps is HAMLET BT. No solution until now.
dj_factor said:
hiya guys,
I just bought a tomtom navigator 5 Original Cd from a mate and installed it on my XDA II, well my nightmare turned out when i tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver and it doesnt seeem to work. The gps works superb with 6630, 6600 but it doesnt work with XDa, i donno why. a friend suggested tht it only works with a Tomtom gps receiver, is tht true.
My question is, is it possible to use any bluetooth gps receiver with XDA for tomtom or do i need a special one.
thanks for looking
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bt
hello, i bought a cable gps reciever and was told by the seller i had turn off all incoming beams for this cable type to work, maybe its the same with the bt one?
have a search on this site
http://pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=index
Theres a seperate section for tomtom and lots of advice and tips

navigation system for XDA Exec

hello
I wanted to get a navigation system which would work with my xda exec. can you guys recommend one?
should i go for an SD card based one or a bluetooth solution?
I use Tomtom software, works perfectly and Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPS receiver
Regards, Simon
thanks for the reply
i guess you use it in bluetooth mode?
what tomtom software do you use with it
i came across an all inclusive package from expansys
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=TOMTOM_MOBILE_5
what do you guys think of it?
Hi, I use Route66 nav7. cheaper than TOMTOM and with free taffic. TOMTOM is alot easy to use than ROUTE66. TOMTOM has a bad after sales team.
xda_guy said:
thanks for the reply
i guess you use it in bluetooth mode?
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yes
xda_guy said:
what tomtom software do you use with it
i came across an all inclusive package from expansys
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=TOMTOM_MOBILE_5
what do you guys think of it?
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You require "TomTom Navigator 5.0" then the upgrade is needed to 5.21!
TOMTOM_MOBILE_5 is for smartphones (not PDA's)
Loads going on ebay:
NEW - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-TomTom-Na...9733242401QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
SECOND HAND - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TomTom-Naviga...ryZ75327QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Alternativley just search for tom* nav* 5 (exactly like that) on ebay
hope this helps.
thanks for the replies
so i can go for tomtom mobile 5 not tom tom 5 (which is for PDAs)
and the Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPS receiver (is there any feature which differentiates between GPS receivers?)
xda_guy said:
thanks for the replies
so i can go for tomtom mobile 5 not tom tom 5 (which is for PDAs)
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no you need tom tom navigator 5 as i said (the XDA exec is a PDA)
cougal96 said:
You require "TomTom Navigator 5.0" then the upgrade is needed to 5.21!
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NOT tom tom mobile 5
xda_guy said:
and the Holux GPSlim236 Bluetooth GPS receiver (is there any feature which differentiates between GPS receivers?)
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It should work!!
the tomtom GPS reciever will work better and require less fiddleing to get it to work as the exec's can be a pain to set up tomtom!!!
thanks for the reply
what is teh difference between a smartphone and a pda. is not the xda exec a smart phone?
the tomtom GPS reciever will work better and require less fiddleing to get it to work as the exec's can be a pain to set up tomtom!!!
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do you mean that i should go for a standalone tomtom gps receiver
hi,
Smartphones usually operate using the Symbian operating system your exec Uses Windows Mobile 5, a different beast.
Re the tomtom BT GPS, the Execs can be a bit of a pain to set up the comm ports on when configuring tomtom with another GPS, Holux, Etan etc, so I guess the advise was meant to say that in tomtom, you tick a box and GPS is configured and working.
Hope that helps,
Bryson!

TomTom - Pair GPS each time I use?

Hi,
I have recently got an O2 XDA Mini S, and I have TomTom 6 installed I have a generic non-TomTom Bluetooth GPS receiver (BT 77) which I got from eBay this works fine with my PDA.
The only problem I have had with it from day one is that I have pair my Bluetooth GPS each time that I use it. If I don't TomTom doesn't seem to detect it. E.g. go to Setting -> Connections -> Bluetooth then delete BT GPS, then I have to search for Bluetooth devices add it again and setup the ports each time I want to use TomTom. Then TomTom will pick it up.
Is this normal? Having to delete my GPS device and then add it again to be able to use it? I normally wait until my GPS has a lock on the satellites before opening TomTom.
Any suggestions on how I get my GPS setup permanently?
I have TT6 and TT's own receiver with Qtek 9100...works fine, pair it once and that's it.
Hi
Are you entering the four digit security code when asked ?. Mine did this till I got the code from the web site for my receiver.
Hope this helps
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Mda Vario
T-Mobile
TomTom 6
[email protected] said:
Hi
Are you entering the four digit security code when asked ?. Mine did this till I got the code from the web site for my receiver.
Hope this helps
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I think you will find that the code you will need is 2003, but you maybe have to check the web site too!
[email protected] said:
Hi
Are you entering the four digit security code when asked ?. Mine did this till I got the code from the web site for my receiver.
Hope this helps
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The code in the guide that came with my GPS was 0000 and this works fine when I have to pair my GPS up, which you normally only have to do once.
I think I solved the problem though. Normally I have Bluetooth off and then tapping on TomTom would load up and then TomTom would automatically fire up Bluetooth for me. While it looked like TomTom was running Bluetooth fine it wouldn't actually detect my GPS.
Turning on Bluetooth before running TomTom seems to do the trick as it will detect it within about 7 seconds. Must just be a bug on Windows Mobile 5 or TomTom 6.
sebastianf said:
The code in the guide that came with my GPS was 0000 and this works fine when I have to pair my GPS up, which you normally only have to do once.
I think I solved the problem though. Normally I have Bluetooth off and then tapping on TomTom would load up and then TomTom would automatically fire up Bluetooth for me. While it looked like TomTom was running Bluetooth fine it wouldn't actually detect my GPS.
Turning on Bluetooth before running TomTom seems to do the trick as it will detect it within about 7 seconds. Must just be a bug on Windows Mobile 5 or TomTom 6.
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Well ok that is wierd cus it, i just start up tomtom and then select the gps and it works find!!! but i guess different with different gps units!!! but good to see that it is working for you now!
I have the same GPS unit as you and I don't have the issue you describe. If I manually enable Bluetooth before starting TomTom 6 it works, if I don't manually enable BT and then start TomTom 6, BT is started by TT6 and it still works. It probably takes a few seconds longer but it still connects quite quickly.
I have TT6 configured for 'Other BT GPS' on Com6. Com 6 appears as 'BT GPS' and is unsecured.
Andy
In the Bluetooth settings area for your GPS, make sure the "Secure Connection" box is NOT ticked. This should sort you out.

Sharing built-in GPS between two phones.

Rookie question here: Is it possible to share my Trinity's GPS unit with my Wizard over a Bluetooth connection? Now I don't know if Bluetooth is required to be enabled when using GPS because the Trinity communicates to the GPS unit over BT or if it's just something to get the damn thing working but if it does actually send the GPS data over BT, how would one set the other phone to use this signal?
Thanks.
forcedalias said:
Rookie question here: Is it possible to share my Trinity's GPS unit with my Wizard over a Bluetooth connection? Now I don't know if Bluetooth is required to be enabled when using GPS because the Trinity communicates to the GPS unit over BT or if it's just something to get the damn thing working but if it does actually send the GPS data over BT, how would one set the other phone to use this signal?
Thanks.
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Try GPSgate http://www.franson.com/gpsgate/
I have shared Trinity's GPS with my laptop before, I don't see any reason why not between two phone.
GPS data is a one way data stream, so you can record it or redirect it to any virtual COM port on any device designed for it.
But I think GPSgate is the only app I can recall that does it nicely.
Also checkout the PocketPC Experts' reviews of GPS software for other possibilities.
V
You may try also GPS2Blue (http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html) - benefits: it's freeware.
Thanks fellas for your wonderful suggestions. I'm looking into them now.

Microsoft Autoroute 2007 GPS not working

Hi People,
Until the folks here @ XDA-DEV succesfully hack their way in the Shift to get :
- SD card access
- Bluetooth Access
- Wifi Access
- optional HDD access
it's still impossible to navigate using the WinMo part of this gem.
So.. I installed Microsoft Autoroute 2007 Europe, and tried to connect a bluetooth
GPS to the HTC shift.
- paired my HUDGPS (polaris brand.. also a Heads-Up-Display for in your car!!)
- pairing tells me I got two new serial ports, an SPP and serial port (com4 and com5)
- I start autoroute, configure it to use either com4 or 5, but fails. It says that the comport might actually
already be in use, or , the other port, it says : cannot open comport.
Usually, I'm not easily defeated, so I changed the comports in the device manager to 21 and 22 to
see if I could make it work this way.
Still no joy, it even deleted all comports without my consent, and had to de-pair and re-pair (aha!)
the Bluetooth GPS to get my comports back.
Even after that, I just cannot get Microsoft Autoroute 2007 to work with the BT GPS.
I will post more info (can I use other software etc...) soon, maybe someone already tried
to install navigation stuff and has a few comments.
Also, if you still own a fossil PDA like the Kaiser, checkout http://www.reperion.com/newclient
lucid said:
Also, if you still own a fossil PDA like the Kaiser, checkout http://www.reperion.com/newclient
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i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
I haven't tried Microsoft's GPS navigation software, mainly because they don't have the maps (even if they did, it probably would be rather outdated) for my country.
For what it's worth, I have installed both Garmin Mapsource coupled with its nRoute program, as well as MapAsia's MapKing GPS navigation programs on my Shift, paired with my GSpace GPS receiver via BT, and both programs work. I use a "third party" gateway - Franson's GPSGate - as a go between, between the GPS receiver and both software.
Works flawlessly.
lucid said:
Even after that, I just cannot get Microsoft Autoroute 2007 to work with the BT GPS.
I will post more info (can I use other software etc...) soon, maybe someone already tried
to install navigation stuff and has a few comments.
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Automapa EU works well on vista side. Cheked with Rikaline GPS 6036 - SiRF Star III SOC v2 and GPS GB735 NAVIBE both without any problems
Sygic 7.53 and Igo 8 working fine on Vista side (with usb and bt gps receiver)
How do you use Igo on Vista?
cmonex said:
i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
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I'm not dissapointed at all I actually own a Kaiser. It was more or less a joke, badly brought, I agree
By the way, thank you people for posting about your successes, this means I'm doing something wrong. How hard can it be to pair a GPS and use it ?
I'm using MS Streets and Trips 2008 (North American equivalent to Autoroute) with a Holux GPSlim240 and it is working flawlessly. I can't remember much but didn't have any issues/quirks during set up. I've just used it a couple of times to test but not since, 'cause I have a 7in touchscreen built-in nav in my car that has traffic updates through Sirius sat radio here (no need for internet), but I still like the option of course
ah ha
finally found somebody has same problem with GPS receiver with Autoroute 2007.
but seems there isn't a clear solution for this issue.
seems like the Autoroute is the problem, i tried with GPS Viewer with Correct port it recognises the gps unit and correctly indicates cordinates.
if i can't find solution soon i will try to find another software as successful users found.
Im the starter of this post, here's the promised update !
Autoroute 2007 just WON'T work on the Shift. I tried a million different combinations of COM ports and security settings, no joy,
As soon as I try to use another GPS program like VisualGPS CE it will connect to the bluetooth receiver just fine.
My best bet is that Autoroute 2007 needs a GPS receiver that is Microsoft Compatible in contrast with the other 99% GPS programs
Will download a trial of Automapa EU now. THanks everyone.
lucid said:
Im the starter of this post, here's the promised update !
Autoroute 2007 just WON'T work on the Shift. I tried a million different combinations of COM ports and security settings, no joy,
As soon as I try to use another GPS program like VisualGPS CE it will connect to the bluetooth receiver just fine.
My best bet is that Autoroute 2007 needs a GPS receiver that is Microsoft Compatible in contrast with the other 99% GPS programs
Will download a trial of Automapa EU now. THanks everyone.
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I've got it working with the Bluetooth TomTom GPS receiver.
No problems with it.
could you share with us your port settings and , by any chance, does your GPS say it's 100% NMEA 2.0 compliant ?
a creensie of your BT Comport section would be nice
cmonex said:
i don't want to disappoint you, but the WM side of the shift is a kaiser.
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Hmmm...does this mean a Kaiser ROM could be flashed to it?
NanoRuler said:
Hmmm...does this mean a Kaiser ROM could be flashed to it?
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No, it means it is technically the same hardware (qualcomm msm7200) with different HTC PID, different aux devices, etc. So ROMs are *NOT* compatibles.

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