Slow Graphics - Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus General

Heya.
I'm interested to find out whether this is just my Orange Touch Dual or every Touch Dual device.
I run Slide 2 Unlock (thanks to gfreek ) as well as PocketCM.
When I slide and scroll, everything just seems so Laggy graphics wise?
The device is unbelieveably fast and everything else works at full speed but when dragging either S2U2 settings or in the Contact screen it just doesn't seem as smooth as my old Wizard?
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Sam

hi, ive got the same problem with slide.. ive uninstalled it for the time being.. not sure.

i dont have that issue with mine. no lag here

A lot of HTC devices suffer from this issue.. such as the Hermes, Kaiser, Advantage.. etc. Everytime the screen is pressed/touched, gwes.exe already uses 45% - 60% of the CPU.
Try playing a game the uses the stylus (eg. Skyforce, KRally..), everything is laggy when you touch the screen, as soon as you release it, everything goes realy fast and smooth.

I read somewhere that you had to disable direct draw for it to work properly on the touch dual
Have a search and see
Jeremy

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[XDA Mini S] Stability problems

Has anyone else had problems with this device locking up / running very slow? It only seems to happen when I launch a new app, but it doesn't seem to depend on which app it is. The device just has a go-slow and usually needs a soft-reset. Opening they keyboard does not rotate the screen any more, but does draw some pretty weird icons on the side of the screen ;-)
Interested to hear other people's experiences before I start digging to try and discover the cause.
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Daern
Mine seems to be running pretty well. Occasionally it'll slow down a little but not enough to affect running apps etc. I've not really had any more than a one second delay with screen rotation. Have you got the O2 Active UI installed?
Dr Doom said:
Mine seems to be running pretty well. Occasionally it'll slow down a little but not enough to affect running apps etc. I've not really had any more than a one second delay with screen rotation. Have you got the O2 Active UI installed?
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Nope. It was awful with O2Active installed (as usual). Mine is configured in "basic" mode.
wizrd running slow
You have an 200Mhz device running WM2005.The ROM is not a final one ... improvments for o2 active are still made ( by the way the software is for unexperienced users mostly if you carefully read the setup panel)...So you just have to wait for the entire software to get improved

Prophet freezes when switching on.

I just sold my XDA Exec and bought an SPV M600 and I'm loving it!
It actually fits in my pocket and does pretty much everything the Exec did - plus the battery life is SOOOOOOOOO much better.
My only gripe is this: occassionally when I turn it on, it freezes for about 5-10 seconds. I'm usually tapping away at the screen during this time, and after 5-10 seconds it "catches up" and processes all my taps and basically goes mad opening stuff up.
It has been doing this this since I bought it - usually 2 or 3 times a day so I doubt it's any of the software I've installed.
I'm using the latest Dopod ROM.
I'm have Magic Button, the batteystatus plug in (my device is overclocked to 260mhz from 195mhz using OMAP), TodayScheme Changer and I'm also using the Launcher plug in.
If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it, this isn't a major problem but I'd like to solve it anyway,
Thanks.
Have you tried your Prophet without all those apps installed? Specially the TodayTheme Changer and BatteryStatus plugin since those two apps run on the today screen and that's pretty much the first thing that hogs the system bigtime, specially on the slow prophet.
I know you have overclocked it but today plugins tend to overload the processor a lot.
Obviously there's some process that's taking some time to release the system. This I've never seen on mine, but I'm sure you have some app that's causing this.
Just a thought.
Thanks for your reply Rayan, but I also had this problem before I had installed anything. To be fair it hasn't been doing it much lately so I reckon I can live with the odd delay now and again.
Mine s freezes when i Install Net Framework 2 , can anyone have the same situation ? I think the problem is Net Framework 2.0 ...
I don't have Net Framework 2 installed. I found that Magic Button wasn't closing Internet Explorer properly, so I reinstalled it and it works much better now. I think IE was the main culprit. Are there any decent browsers out there? I tried Opera but didn't really get on with it.
try NetFront I like !

Slow speeds when using stylus/touch screen

I've noticed that when using CPU intensive applications such as games or video, the frame rate drops dramatically while using the touch screen. As soon as I remove the stylus from the touch screen, or when the touch screen receives no input, the speed increases back to "normal". Has anyone else noticed this before? It seems to me like there are still some drivers that need some major updating. I hope the bugs and performance issues will be resolved with this device soon. This device feels underpowered for the hardware is has in it. I'm guessing with some further optimization it will be able to perform much faster (I hope).
BTW, I have the HTC branded version, with ROM version 1.15.405.5
prsnow said:
I've noticed that when using CPU intensive applications such as games or video, the frame rate drops dramatically while using the touch screen. As soon as I remove the stylus from the touch screen, or when the touch screen receives no input, the speed increases back to "normal". Has anyone else noticed this before? It seems to me like there are still some drivers that need some major updating. I hope the bugs and performance issues will be resolved with this device soon. This device feels underpowered for the hardware is has in it. I'm guessing with some further optimization it will be able to perform much faster (I hope).
BTW, I have the HTC branded version, with ROM version 1.15.405.5
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I have the same problem when K-Rally is running.
I've noticed the same problem when playing K-Rally. When I remove the stylus from the screen game run appreciably faster.
Same here guys, but on my Hermes/Tytn which also has the same processor!
Use google and you'll see that some sites recommend that you install these applications that are running slow (Krally for example) on your memory card instead of the main built in memory, and then try it!
I noticed this first when I installed Krally on the Tytn and it seemed slow when using the stylus. On my friends Asus P525 it runs so smooth and fast!
I havent botherd buying a memory card yet as I dont intend to keep the Tytn so therefore I'm unable to test whether or not the above method works.
If you guys can then test it and post your results here.
Thanks.
Guys some bad news,
I've tried installing Krally on a memory card and playing on it but still the problem remains! As soon as you touch the screen with a stylus the game slows down and returns to normal when you remove the stylus!
Not good at all!
DO you have the same problem:
I can't play KRALLY (neither other games as emulated games(mario kart snes)) because i can't push to buttons at the same time. If i'm pushing for example the button to accelerate, once i push a button to turn it stops....That really sucks....When i Had my i-mate JAM i didn't have such problems.
It would be nice to be fixed
use auto-accelerate and auto-turbo... and just directional pad to turn left and right i solved playing like this
Same Problem here! I tried to play PocketQuake and some other games, but every time i use the stylus everything slows down.
But the biggest problem is, when i use the buttons especially the "D-pad" after some pressing of this button (8-10 times) the whole trinity crashes!
Are there people having this problem too?
Maybe someone could test pocketquake too, or test if the dopod rom solves this problem.
Greetings,
Borbosch
Interesting, cpu is going 45% as soon as you touch the screen (see screen capture).
I don't think my previous devices had this "feature", I will check and compare with their behaviour.
We should also check with hermes to see if it's the same.
Can you imagine your PC using half is processing power when you click with the mouse?
meroupow said:
Interesting, cpu is going 45% as soon as you touch the screen (see screen capture).
I don't think my previous devices had this "feature", I will check and compare with their behaviour.
We should also check with hermes to see if it's the same.
Can you imagine your PC using half is processing power when you click with the mouse?
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Yeah, this is quite frustrating. I really hope HTC or whoever is developing new ROMs already know about this issue, because it really needs to be corrected.
I had sent e-mail on support with this issue.
I've noticed that the frame rate slow down dramatically then I run the game (such as K-Rally,Sky Force by INFINITE DREAMS - http://www.idreams.pl/main.php) and use stylus to control the game. As soon as I remove the stylus from the touch screen the image become smooth. This not happen If I use buttons to control the game.
I install the same game to ASUS P525 PDA phone. The frame rate slow down not happen on ASUS P525 then I use stylus to control the game and the game run smooth.
Would you improve this problem or how can I improve it?
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This is the answer:
Regrettably as the seems you mention about are made by a 3rd party, I can't comment on there compatibility with you P3600.
I suggest you refrain from using your Stylus to control them as this affects the frame rate.
If you have any further issues with the software I suggest you contact the software manufacturer.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
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So they do not think that this issue their problem.
It is clearly not a problem related to the games. If you mention the games to HTC of course they will say: it's not my fault, it's their fault as everybody tend to do.
It is probably more simple to talk about the cpu consumption when pressing the screen which shouldn't occur and that is slowing down ANY application.
Another email
I'll send an email to HTC about this also to see if we can get a better response. I'll post the reply when I get it.
meroupow said:
Interesting, cpu is going 45% as soon as you touch the screen (see screen capture).
I don't think my previous devices had this "feature", I will check and compare with their behaviour.
We should also check with hermes to see if it's the same.
Can you imagine your PC using half is processing power when you click with the mouse?
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This is indeed a lousy driver. While all other 2.8" HTC devices exhibit this problem in most games, the speed doesn't decrease THIS bad on, say, the HTC Wizard overclocked to 240 MHz and running K-Rally - not even at the standard 195 MHz, where, with the touchscreen constantly pressed, the CPU usage of gwes.exe increases to 17% (measured using the AKU3.2 ROM).
I've also quickly measured the CPU usage increase of gwes.exe (or, for that matter, anything) on my HP iPAQ 2210 (about 0.5% only) and my HTC Universal (no noticable CPU usage increase at all).
All in all, this problem only seems to be acute with the QVGA PPC PE devices of HTC.
prsnow said:
I'll send an email to HTC about this also to see if we can get a better response. I'll post the reply when I get it.
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Great, I'll do it too as from the press; hope I'll receive some useful response.
[email protected] said:
Regrettably as the seems you mention about are made by a 3rd party, I can't comment on there compatibility with you P3600.
I suggest you refrain from using your Stylus to control them as this affects the frame rate.
If you have any further issues with the software I suggest you contact the software manufacturer.
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Yes, the usual, "canned" answer. I'll explain them how the CPU usage can be reliably benchmarked and will also post them my measurement results, which DO slow it's HTC that has a buggy driver, NOT the third-party apps.
Menneisyys said:
This is indeed a lousy driver. While all other 2.8" HTC devices exhibit this problem in most games, the speed doesn't decrease THIS bad on, say, the HTC Wizard overclocked to 240 MHz and running K-Rally - not even at the standard 195 MHz, where, with the touchscreen constantly pressed, the CPU usage of gwes.exe increases to 17% (measured using the AKU3.2 ROM).
I've also quickly measured the CPU usage increase of gwes.exe (or, for that matter, anything) on my HP iPAQ 2210 (about 0.5% only) and my HTC Universal (no noticable CPU usage increase at all).
All in all, this problem only seems to be acute with the QVGA PPC PE devices of HTC.
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I'e continued benchmarking my other Pocket PC's; neither the Dell Axim x51v (A12 ROM) nor the Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox 720 did exhibit any kind of CPU usage increase with the stylus down.
I'll do the Trinity benchmarks on Monday (unfortunately, I don't own the device, it's my employer's and don't have access to it during the weekends). If it indeed turns out to be resource-hungry, I'll publish an article on the matter, which HTC can surely not ignore any more.
Menneisyys said:
I'll do the Trinity benchmarks on Monday (unfortunately, I don't own the device, it's my employer's and don't have access to it during the weekends). If it indeed turns out to be resource-hungry, I'll publish an article on the matter, which HTC can surely not ignore any more.
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Thanks Menneisyys, that would be extremely appreciated.
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We should also check with hermes to see if it's the same.
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The answer unfortunately is yes! As mentioned in my first post the Hermes also suffers from this just as bad! I've simply given up playing Krally. All I play now is worms which is playable as its not a speed intensive game.
Its such a shame though, because on my mates asus p525 which is like a year old now, Krally runs so fast
Damn HTC. This will probably be the last HTC product I'm going to own!
Keep us updated and yes doing those tests sounds a pretty good idea.
Dead Cell.

Games slowing when touching screen

I have newest Shaps´s rom and + Memmaid and Pocket mechanic example.
I have also made many tweaks, but I don´t think so that tweaks causes this.
OS is fast and stable and there are lots of RAM free
Many games runs fine, but example my favorite game SkyForce not.
Slowing occur when game is CPU dependent and only then when I touch to screen. Example SkyForce streering is done by touching screen, so almost all time game running 3/5 from normal speed. Is this normal?
Edit: ATI patch not couses it.
Also example these games acting same:
Street Duel Underground Racing
Breakout 2
Dogfight
Skyforce reloaded
Siberian Strike
I have now clean pandora naked and same thing.
Please tell me is this "normal".
Yes, this is normal. It happens on all roms I tested too. It's really annoying.
you use the touchscreen to steet in skyforce? I use the D-Pad, but oddly enough, the D-Pad slows down the game too, but not the hardware keyboard.
I didnt use to have that problem before, but I had a 2 months gap where i didnt use a TyTN and the problem arised only when I bought a new one after 2 months.
So it might be a new OS/ROM issue (not custom ROM issue, but OS/ROM version).
I'd have to reload an ancient ROM to test, but im too lazy

Internet Explorer extremley slow and clunky.

Sure zooming and scrolling is much smoother than android's stock browser, but the loading webpages for me takes much longer, and words are always blurry when i zoom in, whereas android is zippy and sites load MUCH faster. What can i do to fix this, and is anyone else having this problem?
Its very fast on my phone and much, much faster than my HTC Desire android phone. The scrolling is butter smooth, however due to the HD2 touchscreen driver the multi touch doesnt work well on wp7 but that is not an issue with the OS as it's fine on my 7Mozart.
Not sure what to tell you. IE on WP7 is MUCH faster for me, than surfing was on Android. And I don't get the blurry words when zoomed in, maybe luck of the draw, due to this not being a native os to our phone. Wish I had a solution to help you, but thought I'd let you know how mine runs so you'd get a better idea if it's os related or phone related, or something else.
yeah, mine is fine as well!
the touch screen bug is a bit dodgy but not to hard to work with
make sure if you are using two finges you hit the screen at exactly the same time with both fingers, also if a swipe dosnt work first time, try the exact opersite then do it again, that usually gets me going
as for your speed issue, perhaps its a network issue, do you have the same issue on wifi?
or perhaps its even another SD card issue...theres plenty of them if the card is only slighty duff so it could well be that if you have issues with wifi as well.

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