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over the last couple of months there hasn't been a new build or any other "big" news for that matter. all I see is a few kitchens and a bunch of 15 year old kids who use them to create and upload tens of ROMs (which are all basically identical and share the same functionality AND flaws).
too bad, this forum used to be the most useful source on the net for WM6 related discussions.
Aah come on, don't be like that. People over here are doing the best they can to provide custom roms (for people who don't have the knowledge of creating them themselves).
IMHO, if you don't like them you should create your own rom and use that one. Capice?
P.S.
I went back to the original O2 WM5 ROM about a month ago. no more crashes, missed calls, etc.
it just wasn't worth it.
I guess you missed the 'official' WM6 ROM that InGeNeTiCs posted here...
Use the force luke!...
I agree with both of you guy's, yes thats what I'm doing... It has become slightly irritating the amount of custom rom's being published by newbies. But guy's like Mattk. R, Zoki, Fariah and Molski are really working much harder then microsoft is even with there poor version's of roms and so called update's. Variety inspires competition. And if your not happy with any of them then do like the Wizard2203 said, grab a kitchen and start cookin!...
p.s. did u use the u.k. 2.19 radio rom? at the moment for most guys that's the only one that really works with wm6
mattk_r, Zoki, faria, Molski, mUn and few others whose nicknames I can't remember right now have my full appreciation. it's the newbies custom rom flood that is killing this forum.
I think I'll take a few months off this site and come back when the real, official WM6 (not SpAd's SuPeR OfFiCial WM6 [email protected] 3) will be available.
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I think I'll take a few months off this site and come back when the real, official WM6 (not SpAd's SuPeR OfFiCial WM6 [email protected] 3) will be available.
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Don't let the screen door hit 'cha where the good Lord split 'cha. Please keep the destructive criticism to a minimum and post in the proper forum next time. Thread closed.
Hi,
I'm a total newbie to flashing ROMs, and WinMo phones in general. Given this is the case, I have no idea what to look for in a cooked ROM. I know the features I'd like, but it is pretty tricky for a newbie to know what features / versions are included in each ROM. Is there a relatively simple list of available ROMs compared, or is it a case of trawling though every thread and picking out the details?
TIA
ZS
duttys v0.8 is the best one right now,
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duttys v0.8 is the best one right now,
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Thanks for the input, mox, but this is kind of the problem I'm facing (no offence). Everyone has their own opinions on what is good, but you might have different requirements to me. I just don't know how to get a workable measure of how it would be for me. (yes, I know - I can try them all but I don't have the time to go through each one in turn )
For what it's worth, though, Dutty's 0.8 is the one I favour most at the minute anyway.
i don't think there is an "easy way'. you have to try a few to decide which is the best for you. i have artemis 3.0 and don't see any reason to change it yet, it's that good! dutty, laurentius26, xannytech, nrgz28 are also amongst my favorites. hard choice mate...
I'm using Dutty's HG v08 as well and it's the best I've used...or try Leo Lite
the ones based on the 2.07 ROM have the gash looking buttons at the bottom - some like them but I don't, prefer it to look like stock...
get the HG v08 ROM, the one I use, from HERE
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(...) Everyone has their own opinions on what is good, but you might have different requirements to me. (...)
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This is the most important line in your opening posting.
There are definitely some basics you can count on for selecting a ROM, but there is no list of all HD2 ROMs with full description etc.
As you correctly mention, it is best to read the threads of the various ROMs, if there are already a lot of entries, you can focus on the first and last couple of pages to get an overall picture.
Maybe the biggest difference between all the ROMs out there are the WinMo builds - the more official 21xxx builds which come with the start menu at the top of the screen, while the beta builds 23xxx/24xxx/28xxx come with the start menu at the bottom.
Everything else is nicely described by each chef.
Happy discovering!
Hi ZombieSheep,
I am afraid you will have to look through the initial posts for each rom, create a comparison chart of your own, identify which ROM has the features you most want, and install it.
"Best ROM" type threads cause a lot of anguish and grief on here so we tend to shut them down very quickly. The best ROM is the one that suits you best.
Hope you are successful in your quest.
Closing this now.
WB
I'm using "EnergyROM 23541/21892" and I'm looking for something better and faster !
I have to say it's pretty confusing and overwhelming when you arrive here. Couldn't answer this myself, there should be a poll thread like there are on Modaco to help newbies.
This again, why dont you start trying some to see what you like...they are all good
For cutting edge ROMs - look at Miri's or Dutty's HG ROMs
For super clean - look at CleanEx (new ROM but already looks like it could be a goodun)
This is all subjective to personal opinion and taste. Best advice is to read through some of the posts and try for yourself.
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Definitely the ARTEMIS !!
So indeed this is where a poll would be useful, look at all those different answers!
I think rather than a 'what is best' it would be much better to have a comparison page where all the chefs could update with the important information and a link to their forum page - so for example it would have a table with the chef name, driver version, manila version, rom version etc... and perhaps a few key points such as applications added/removed from stock ROM...
A first point of call so you can quickly see who has released a new ROM, and see its details
What this should NOT include is any star rating/number of downloads etc...
This is an easy question to answer, I think!
For any user unwilling to do a bit of research and learn about differences between ROM's, the best ROM is obviously the one they already have!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631042
Another thing...
I'm using "EnergyROM 23541/21892" and I'm looking for something better and faster !
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the hd2 can't have any preferences, you on the other hand might have some.
thus, the question becomes 'which of the roms might be the best for me?'
so the solution my friend, lies entirely in your hands
happy flashing mate
this will be closed v soon. i have seen many threads on this topic they all closed. so u have to try ur self and find what is the best. tast r difarent. for me Dutty's HG
Thats like asking
"What is the best console" or even "What is the best programming language".
Simply put, it comes down to personal opinion, while one person might rate a rom good for its long battery life, another person rates the rom bad because it didnt come with his favorite video player installed (just examples, i know battery life is more related to radio, and you can install apps on all roms)
You could however ask people to write reviews, but theres already a site for that http://xdaroms.com/ and i gotta admit thats not very actively updated/reviewed.
Personally, im always very pleased with Artemis roms, if your looking for the ram or cpu trick, forget i mentioned it, but if your looking for speed and stability alongside the latest wm and manila, check out the thread (read peoples replys a bit/read changelog/look at screens to get an idea of the rom)
The first time it can be a little scary to flash your phone, but after a while you will get the hang of it, its really not that hard or dangerous, just read the thread about flashing.
As long as you read the (help & specific rom) threads, it'll be just fine
I agree... If like me, you need a ROM which allows for Chinese Input, you become more limited in your options... so it really depends on what you need....
I am a bit surprised to see a request like "searching a faster and better ROM".
You should ask different questions, eg. I need this and that in a ROM, which
ones come with it? Even better, do a search yourself!
Dozens of ROMs are available. All of them are fast, all of them are good.
Hundreds of different answers are possible.
If you feel that your device is slow with the ROM you are using, there could be other reasons:
- bad flash
- defective device
I just tell this because after having flashed something like 50 different ROMs over the past three months, not any single one of them made my HD2 slow.
Hi everybody
Here am I again with a new advice for all of you how are addicted to flashing their phones with latest roms, I discovered a way to flash the phone a little bit faster :
instead of going to bootloader by pressing downvolume and power while the phone is off, you have to use the utility enterbootloader.exe (which you must copy to your SD and then run) => the phone will restart all alone in bootloader mode BUT will flash faster than the other way !!!!!!!!
DON'T ASK ME WHY !!!! I've tested it several times and I don't have any explanation. maybe the cookers may help us understand ?
Bye
Sure..
You only have 12 post here, and we should believe you?
I wouldn't trust it.
And when i flash my rom i have plenty of time.
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Sure..
You only have 12 post here, and we should believe you?
I wouldn't trust it.
And when i flash my rom i have plenty of time.
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I dindn't expect better than this answer. No problem my friend. I didn't ask for any donation or charity. Just wanted to share what I discovered (I didn't invent it).
Anyway, try the two methods (as you have plenty of time) and see by yourself.
PS : The file attached can also be found along with 99% of available cooked roms ...
Bye
PS n°2 : Is there a way to judge people by the number of posts they read instead of the number of posts they wrote ?
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I dindn't expect better than this answer. No problem my friend. I didn't ask for any donation or charity. Just wanted to share what I discovered (I didn't invent it).
Anyway, try the two methods (as you have plenty of time) and see by yourself.
PS : The file attached can also be found along with 99% of available cooked roms ...
Bye
PS n°2 : Is there a way to judge people by the number of posts they read instead of the number of posts they wrote ?
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It is always better to read than to post.
Thanks for sharing
Why do you have to be so stubborn?
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Sure..
You only have 12 post here, and we should believe you?
I wouldn't trust it.
And when i flash my rom i have plenty of time.
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I waited so long to have something interesting and valuable to post and share with the community. If it turns to this, it's better to shut up and continue reading ... (how sad, I was even thinking about going into the cooking adventure ... )
googy_anas, at least your increasing your post count, you maybe taken seriously yet As for me I have now increased my post to 18, so maybe only a few of you may take my comments seriously, but that’s ok because I will make useless comments until my post count is high enough to be taken seriously!
1 useful post is better than 200 useless posts.....
Quality, not Quantity
Thanks for your input googy, I will try it out next time I flash a new rom. Please don’t let this stop you from sticking around the forums, reading and posting.
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googy_anas, at least your increasing your post count, you maybe taken seriously yet As for me I have now increased my post to 18, so maybe only a few of you may take my comments seriously, but that’s ok because I will make useless comments until my post count is high enough to be taken seriously!
1 useful post is better than 200 useless posts.....
Quality, not Quantity
Thanks for your input googy, I will try it out next time I flash a new rom. Please don’t let this stop you from sticking around the forums, reading and posting.
Edit: And Cooking!
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thanks for your kind words
anyway my first step in cooking is about to be done : I've downloaded WM6.5.3 23541 for osKitchen and will begin with simple and clean builds. My only problem is I don't know where to find the complementary packages manila, htc, tools .... (or may be I have to extract them from another rom) ?
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googy_anas, at least your increasing your post count, you maybe taken seriously yet As for me I have now increased my post to 18, so maybe only a few of you may take my comments seriously, but that’s ok because I will make useless comments until my post count is high enough to be taken seriously!
1 useful post is better than 200 useless posts.....
Quality, not Quantity
Thanks for your input googy, I will try it out next time I flash a new rom. Please don’t let this stop you from sticking around the forums, reading and posting.
Edit: And Cooking!
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Yes, perhaps I should have clarified my statement.
@Googy,
MOST here would not judge you on your post count and you should not be afraid to share anything that helps the community.
There are many senior members here only because they post crap like "flashing now", "thanks for the ROM" , "blah, blah, blah" that doesn't offer anything.
Do not be offended and do not be discouraged.
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thanks for your kind words
anyway my first step in cooking is about to be done : I've downloaded WM6.5.3 23541 for osKitchen and will begin with simple and clean builds. My only problem is I don't know where to find the complementary packages manila, htc, tools .... (or may be I have to extract them from another rom) ?
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BeeGee Tokyo hosts many packages on his server.
Here I am again, I've managed to build my first clean rom based on 23541 by using osKitchen and successfully flashed the two versions I built (French and WWE). It's soooooooooo smooth and faaaaaast !!!! wow I'm impressed !
I also extracted the packages of the official 2.53 rom but when I include them in my build, the phone is blocked after the first initialization (after the htc logo animation). can't understand why .... can anyone help ?
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Here I am again, I've managed to build my first clean rom based on 23541 by using osKitchen and successfully flashed the two versions I built (French and WWE). It's soooooooooo smooth and faaaaaast !!!! wow I'm impressed !
I also extracted the packages of the official 2.53 rom but when I include them in my build, the phone is blocked after the first initialization (after the htc logo animation). can't understand why .... can anyone help ?
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You should post your build log in the forum where you downloaded your kitchen from. Whoever supports that kitchen would be able to view it for any conflicting packages.
Otherwise it is best to load one package at a time until you find the culprit.
That is why cooking a good ROM is hard, because of the trial and error and repeated flashes and testing, very time consuming.
Some things to consider;
Page Pool settings (20mb seems to work well)
Mort Script (for AutoInstall functionality)
Themes (Max Manila is the best)
Other general tweaks to optimize the performance.
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You should post your build log in the forum where you downloaded your kitchen from. Whoever supports that kitchen would be able to view it for any conflicting packages.
Otherwise it is best to load one package at a time until you find the culprit.
That is why cooking a good ROM is hard, because of the trial and error and repeated flashes and testing, very time consuming.
Some things to consider;
Page Pool settings (20mb seems to work well)
Mort Script (for AutoInstall functionality)
Themes (Max Manila is the best)
Other general tweaks to optimize the performance.
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thank you for your support
actually, i'm rebuilding the rom without manila but keeping all the standard htc apps. i'll give some feedback in a few minutes ....
So actually, my test rom starts with manila enabled but it's full of bugs
the os itself is running as it should .... i think there's something with the packages i extracted from the stock rom !
I give up !!!!!!!!
cooking needs good skills and too much available time (I don't have one of the two )
next time i'll stop to say thanks to any cooker i use his rom, now that i know it's not as simple as it seems !!!!
bye
Thank you for sharing and good luck with the cooking.
I don't believe post counts have much to do with anything and it's always nice to learn something new. I tend to be skeptical of everything until i have researched it to death, but i'd rather be skeptical of something than not know about it in the first place
[REF Idea]*Chef input required please* ROM Spec & content - easy choice & comparison.
Hi all HD2 XDA'ers
As we know, the "Which ROM is best" question can be so subjective that no single thread or poll can accurately help you make a decision. Also they get closed and locked pretty quick by the mods.
The users and flashers need some method of selecting ROMs, or at least prioritizing which we try first, based on their individual requirements.
In addition, and perhaps more importantly, the ROM chefs have no standardised way to illustrate or describe exactly what their ROM is like to prospective users. The many posts and threads do not enable any form of comparison.
Here's an idea for anyone willing to take up the challenge:
Unfortunately I can't dedicate the time and effort required, however I know it would be infinitely useful to many users and cooks alike. (Maybe even the mods would find it a useful way of stopping the constant questions, threads and polls of which rom!)
Create a table detailing all the specific (or generic) characteristics of each ROM. Then all chefs, new or experienced, can add their ROMs to the table.
Table would begin with high level details (for a quick overview); then possibly expand to include subtleties and very specific details.
First we would need to create a benchmark using the latest STOCK ROM. This is what the specs of cooked ROMs will be measured against. It should also define all stock apps, etc. for accurate comparisons and to assist the cooks in completing the table for their own ROMs.
For example:
ROM Chef's username
ROM Name/Version
Fully Loaded / Minimalist
Which custom apps included [free text list/csv]
Stock apps cut from Rom [free text list/csv]
What Task Manager used (if any)?
Ringtones stripped? [Y/N]
Media/Wallpapers included
Tweaks included [free text list/csv - or single row for each expected tweak]
Theme changed [description]
Manila version
Cookie/MaxManilla included? [Y/N]
WM Version [6.5 ; 6.5.3 ; 6.5.5]
SYS/XIP build
Free memory after flash (MB)
...and on... (the above is just off the top of my head - it would certainly need more thought, massive expansion and sub-divisions.)
Perhaps start as a thread, work it to a useable format, gathering feedback, comments, suggestions and requests, then move to the Wiki. I recon, if the format and fields are all dimensioned extensively and well enough, the resulting table/wiki would be adopted across all devices.
I would sinserely love to do this myself and regret just pushing the idea out there. I really hope that someone who's heart is really in it, will be willing to take this up to the benefit of all HD2 owners who wish to stick out WM6.5x despite the temptations of other devices, OS's and ports.
All the best,
Hirshy
Information Systems Security Senior Specialist - Networks
T-Mobile (UK) Ltd.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
basically like distrowatch for linux systems? with the package/AKU/radio/Memory/custom apps on the y key, ROM name on the X key. And a blank space in the table where the package is removed?
Just a note - how would someone like you use the data since you work for T-mobile?
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Just a note - how would someone like you use the data since you work for T-mobile?
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+1 id like to know that too
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Just a note - how would someone like you use the data since you work for T-mobile?
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+1 id like to know that too
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Hmmm, what would you guys like me to do with it?...
I have contacts in the Handset teams for testing and procurement. As my particular job role is impacted by the 'quality?' of their firmware, I regularly feedback required changes and user input. Though to be honest, they're unlikely to care much about any roms other than their own customised garbage!
Have you seen the state of T-Mobile's stock ROMs? At least on Android they get OTA updates quite quickly and in-line with the HTC development branch.
However on WinMo it's the regular old story that they release a device and forget about the bugs and updates.
I work in their Network Security team and am becoming more involved in Terminal Security (devices and whether anything compromises the Network or User Data in terms of confidentiality, integrity and availability). I test all new T-Mobile products, services and network features on their respective platforms.
For example on WinMo, there are the new WnW4 Widgets which run from the Opera run-time environment.
So I guess in that respect, as a favour to the community I would be willing to add my own professional input into whether there are any Security or TMO functionality concerns (from the user's perspective) with the ROMs...
My input here isn't for any professional purposes, I am just a member of the community that has worked at T-Mobile for 11 years and has ties to various contacts.
If there are any concerns for my intentions here (which I hope not) I have personally spoken to Dutty Throy about a year and a half ago to provide him with a contract deal so he could hopefully continue his great work at much less expense. I'm certain he would vouch for me...
Regards,
Hirshy
P.S. (If you read this Throy, it seems that you have since moved to Voda, so maybe T-Mob wasn't cutting it even with the deal - I suppose half-price sh!t is still sh!t !)
Yep, cant believe this hasn't been done yet, would totally reduce wasted threads
Big problem is the rate at which roms get updated.
But i see your point that it would be useful.
It's a helluva lot of work though given the number of roms.
Just off the top of my head I can think of 20roms.
And in the past chefs have been slow to submit their roms to a couple of the rom databases that already exist for swift comparison. I do think that this is better than one of those sites. You would have to get a team together and assign five to ten roms each to watch and update a spreadsheet because it's not going to work relying on the chef's input.
but it really might be useful - e.g. Topix 1.5.8 was based on 21898, but now Topix 1.5.9 is based on 21897 and without the weather function. The build might not be so relevant, but missing weather certainly is!!!
Then you also have the question as to whether to include the htcpedia-only roms in the list.
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Big problem is the rate at which roms get updated.
But i see your point that it would be useful.
It's a helluva lot of work though given the number of roms.
Just off the top of my head I can think of 20roms.
And in the past chefs have been slow to submit their roms to a couple of the rom databases that already exist for swift comparison. I do think that this is better than one of those sites. You would have to get a team together and assign five to ten roms each to watch and update a spreadsheet because it's not going to work relying on the chef's input.
but it really might be useful - e.g. Topix 1.5.8 was based on 21898, but now Topix 1.5.9 is based on 21897 and without the weather function. The build might not be so relevant, but missing weather certainly is!!!
Then you also have the question as to whether to include the htcpedia-only roms in the list.
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Well, I for one would gladly help with reporting from the roms i test, and it could be nice if a team where assembled to do so, because this whole forum is one big mess, where its impossible to get a little overview with all the threads and all those roms..
One thread to collect information about roms, builds, radios and so on - Would tidy up a lot! And, it would have to be a team of people who are able to stay objective, so that its not a contest of which rom is best..
If this is going to happen - pm me
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Yep, cant believe this hasn't been done yet, would totally reduce wasted threads
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no it wouldnt, people would still jump the gun and start new pointless threads
Possible way to get started
This could be accomplished using a simple spreadsheet format.
One "Mod" would be in control of the master sheet that would be posted for download.
Team members would be responsible for one or more ROM's as they choose to participate. Submitted to the Mod.
They would get the official blank spreadsheet with labels from the Mod with directions for data consistency.
Only the Mod could add/change the format upon request of the team when new apps or features arise.
Data would be kept as simple as possible in the cells. X=includes, blank=not includes, version number, etc.
Each ROM version would have a column of it's own. Versions could be limited to "last three" or whatever.
Column would have date of posting to show how current the data was.
Most of the work would be front loaded to bring us up to date.
Cut and paste would make this fairly easy for the team and the Mod.
Comparison would then be as easy as reading a chart.
The end user could delete columns and compare ROM's he is interested in.
Start of Col. A labels (add your ideas and let's see if we can come up with a consensus.)
ROM Chef
ROM Name
Version
Build
Language
Radio Required (this could be RadA, RadB, Rad C to Rad F, all picked from a list at the bottom of the sheet)
Theme
Manila version
Cookie
MaxManilla
WM Version
Free memory after flash (MB)
App name 1
App name 2
App name 3
To app infinitum
Well its an awesome IDEA, I am ready to support by all means..!!!
I have already have a site dedicated to filtering roms located at www.xdaroms.com. I am open to ideas to make rom filtering even better.
Great idea!! This is a big hold up for a lot of users: they don't have time to try 20 ROMS, test them and figure out which they want... This is also a hold up for me, I can try some ROMS, like 3 or 4 but I want to know which ROMS I would have to start with... I am not going to take a "risk" flashing HSPL and not having time to install ROMS on it and so....
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I have already have a site dedicated to filtering roms located at www.xdaroms.com. I am open to ideas to make rom filtering even better.
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+1 that was what I was going to say there is no need for this idea when there is already a comprehensive site that does it.
re xdaroms: at least for the hd2 there are quite a few chefs and roms missing. plus a distrowatch approach where you can see them all lined up is more handy with only one entry for the latest ROM visible.
This means there is room for a seperate glance-database.
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re xdaroms: at least for the hd2 there are quite a few chefs and roms missing. plus a distrowatch approach where you can see them all lined up is more handy with only one entry for the latest ROM visible.
This means there is room for a seperate glance-database.
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Part of the problem that any website or utility we have is the fact that cooks don't update forum(XDA) or rom(xdaroms) posts correctly. Some like to overwrite old posts or roms and update the build version which causes problems for viewing a history of build versions. I do encourage all the cooks to create new rom posts for each new build. I am also going to allow cooks to import an old rom as a starting point which should make the rom posting a little less tedious.
One solution for showing a build history is to do a group by on the list showing all roms for a paticular version however it will only work if cooks update accordingly.
I don't think this issue can be easily resolved untill I get more cooks on board on xdaroms.com and we can start to formalize a rom posting technique.
Again I am open to ideas and hopefully we can come up with a really nice easy to use way to publish roms.
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Part of the problem that any website or utility we have is the fact that cooks don't update forum(XDA) or rom(xdaroms) posts correctly. Some like to overwrite old posts or roms and update the build version which causes problems for viewing a history of build versions. I do encourage all the cooks to create new rom posts for each new build.
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Hi bowpay, nice site - sorry I hadn't seen it before.
I think one of the greatest obstacles is exactly that - it is another site. Between XDA-Dev and HTCpedia, users and cooks have enough posts to contend with...
What you state above (quoted) could be mitigated by using a tabular structure instead of posts. New ROM versions would simply be appended to the table, with the old record remaining as a both a history and comparison. The old record would also be the perfect starting point for the cook to update the table (copy the column, paste as new column, update changed details). "Simples!"
I think cooks would find that easier to represent their new roms using this tabular format than constantly changing posts. The single proviso is that is must be complete and total representation of all variables that the ROM might have.
Please can any Chefs reading this, share their opinions/support and post whether they would adopt such a method for keeping users informed of their ROMs and new versions.
In any event, two things could happen:
The cooks utilize a common table for listing ROMs and versions. This would be analogous to a vendor providing a spec-sheet for their product.
Or (if not the cooks) users would create the records and constantly update the fields as they play with the ROM, use it and find the specs. This is comparable to independent reviewers detailing the specs of a product after the vendor has supplied it to them.
Either way would work and be greatly beneficial.
One field per record could even have a hyperlink for download and link to thread for images and discussion.
No objections to XdaRoms assisting the endeavour as it seems to be their speciality - it's all in the title! However for mass exposure and adoption it really needs to be on the cooks first-stop website. I think that is here...?
All the best,
Hirshy
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Hi bowpay, nice site - sorry I hadn't seen it before.
I think one of the greatest obstacles is exactly that - it is another site. Between XDA-Dev and HTCpedia, users and cooks have enough posts to contend with...
What you state above (quoted) could be mitigated by using a tabular structure instead of posts. New ROM versions would simply be appended to the table, with the old record remaining as a both a history and comparison. The old record would also be the perfect starting point for the cook to update the table (copy the column, paste as new column, update changed details). "Simples!"
I think cooks would find that easier to represent their new roms using this tabular format than constantly changing posts. The single proviso is that is must be complete and total representation of all variables that the ROM might have.
Please can any Chefs reading this, share their opinions/support and post whether they would adopt such a method for keeping users informed of their ROMs and new versions.
In any event, two things could happen:
The cooks utilize a common table for listing ROMs and versions. This would be analogous to a vendor providing a spec-sheet for their product.
[*]Or (if not the cooks) users would create the records and constantly update the fields as they play with the ROM, use it and find the specs. This is comparable to independent reviewers detailing the specs of a product after the vendor has supplied it to them.
Either way would work and be greatly beneficial.
One field per record could even have a hyperlink for download and link to thread for images and discussion.
No objections to XdaRoms assisting the endeavour as it seems to be their speciality - it's all in the title! However for mass exposure and adoption it really needs to be on the cooks first-stop website. I think that is here...?
All the best,
Hirshy
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I hear ya I think that its going to be difficult for XDA to adopt this format due to not having things in place and being geared as a forum. I set out to help the XDA community and each day XDARoms is growing. We are going to make it easier to create forum posts by creating a BBCode Generator and our overall goal is to get cooks to post roms first at XDARoms then click the forum post generator link on a paticular rom. The post generator will generate BBCode or HTML for XDA or Pedia or any forum for that matter (Copy and paste).
Our niche is Roms so cooks will naturally want to post roms on the site because we geared the site towards cooks and it will simplify the rom posting for all websites. It may take time but I am dedicated to making rom posting as easy as possible. After all I am not just the president I am also a member (Hair club for men). lol
I really like where this post is going so any other chefs like to chime in and give us your 2cents? Much appreciated.
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What you state above (quoted) could be mitigated by using a tabular structure instead of posts. New ROM versions would simply be appended to the table, with the old record remaining as a both a history and comparison. The old record would also be the perfect starting point for the cook to update the table (copy the column, paste as new column, update changed details). "Simples!"
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When I get a little more time I will take a look at the rom posting process and use some of your suggestions. The database schema is all setup to do exactly that it will just take a little time to make the UI behave.
Well...I think it can be automated... is there a command line tool to extract all such information from a nbh file ? Can someone point me to anything similar ?
My idea : After a upload, automation extracts all such information and automatically appends to the spreadsheet/online sheet...so less work for the webmaster and the chef
ahirshfield said:
In addition, and perhaps more importantly, the ROM chefs have no standardised way to illustrate or describe exactly what their ROM is like to prospective users. The many posts and threads do not enable any form of comparison.
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Why not use the wiki for that?
chris_ah1 said:
but it really might be useful - e.g. The build might not be so relevant, but missing weather certainly is!!!
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Don't know how you came to that conclusion but you are certainly wrong. Don't spread wrong information mate.