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Hi everyone,
Hum, i'm looking for a browser for my elf, but i couldn't find any that didn't remake the page to a smartphone-type.
Anyone knows a browser that keeps the pages like a desktop pc?
Thks
MBC

This is a brand new
Check Skyfire
http://www.skyfire.com/
If you live in USA you are able to sign up for private beta, recommend you search xda-developers forums, there are a couple of threads already.

mrblackcat said:
Hi everyone,
Hum, i'm looking for a browser for my elf, but i couldn't find any that didn't remake the page to a smartphone-type.
Anyone knows a browser that keeps the pages like a desktop pc?
Thks
MBC
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try opera mini,works well for me. free and very easy to use. finger movement and zoom also can take over pie for downloads

Picsel Browser

hey wuub:
My picsel browser just seems slow all of the time. I've had a lot better luck with PIE on speed.

I used picsel for a while, until i found opera mini 4. It is much faster than picsel. It keeps your page in the desktop-like layout, but also formats the text so that it is readable (without having to pan around) when zommed in.
opera mini 4 is my suggestion, with esmertec jbed as your midlet manager

Hey Sturatt:
thnx for the info. Does Opera mini work well on the ppc's? I was looking at Opera's website & it looked like Opera Mobile was more for wm6 (but costs money) & Opera mini was more for the smartphones (and was free). PIE just doesn't do well for me but picsel really seems slow compared to PIE.

i have a mogul (ppc6800) and opera mini works great.
just install jbed, then go to www.operamini.com on your phone's IE, navigate to the opera mini 4 page and download (by default it goes to opera mini 3, you have to select a link to get to opera mini 4).

luiggi said:
Check Skyfire
http://www.skyfire.com/
If you live in USA you are able to sign up for private beta, recommend you search xda-developers forums, there are a couple of threads already.
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does anyone have a cab for this? don't live in the u.s. but dying to try this one

chrisd1a1 said:
does anyone have a cab for this? don't live in the u.s. but dying to try this one
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its not out yet

Ibis browser
Hi
I find new browser (shareware ) is name is ibis browser. I try it i was beautiful and on second open it bug
Now I try to reinstall it and always same problem, I can't open website.
Just try it
have good day
yo

i use Opera Mini 4 on my HTC Artemis (P3300) works very well!

MagisterMY said:
hey wuub:
My picsel browser just seems slow all of the time. I've had a lot better luck with PIE on speed.
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Yes, Picsel IS slow - and has tons of other problems (low Web standards compliance, for example). I don't really recommend it. Opera Mini 4 is far better - in my opinion, of course.

opera mini: question

I would to try opera mini, but on the official site I can't understand wich version is the best for the HD:
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/

Dude the HD comes with Opera installed? I believe you can upgrade the version 2682 that comes installed to version 2745. check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252
Is Opera mini somehow better or different to Opera Mobile???

Just installed opera mini on my blackstone.
and it works like a dream.
its runs so much faster than the full version its almost unbelievable! the text might be a bit on the small side, but the pointer comes in handy for all that.
just doing some tests on the the independant website. downloaded, rendered and displayed in about 7 seconds. compare that against the full opera where your looking at about 20 seconds for the whole front page to display.
the mini version also offers proper double clicks for links and none of this zooming in and out by accident malarky.
get onto it. you won't regret it.
for the record installed the PPC600 Mogul version and everything looks great.

IIRC opera mini pre renders everything through their servers?

matthoy said:
Just installed opera mini on my blackstone.
and it works like a dream.
its runs so much faster than the full version its almost unbelievable! the text might be a bit on the small side, but the pointer comes in handy for all that.
just doing some tests on the the independant website. downloaded, rendered and displayed in about 7 seconds. compare that against the full opera where your looking at about 20 seconds for the whole front page to display.
the mini version also offers proper double clicks for links and none of this zooming in and out by accident malarky.
get onto it. you won't regret it.
for the record installed the PPC600 Mogul version and everything looks great.
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which versione doo you use? could you link me pls?
I think that is faster that normal opera and more suitable for gprs and 3g navigation than normal opera, isn't it?

in blackstone should be preinstalled opera not opera mini
yes, I'm sure. for me the mini version is far superior than it's big brother (Full RRS support for starters - yes i know the blackstone has the RSS hub, but this isn't linked to full opera browser - so not much use really).
there will be some sites that work better on the full version, but as far as my testing today has gone, all of the sites i used look and perform better in the mini version.

matthoy said:
yep.
and it looks great on the touch;s big screen.
i used it a lot on my e650 (suffered from a lot of image duplication when wrapping the page to the screen) but not on the touch, it's great!
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could you link the version of operamini you use on blackstone pls?

http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/htc_ppc6800_mogul/
just download to the two file from there.
opera-mini-advanced.jad
opera-mini-advanced.jar
stick them in a temp folder.
then run the java app. install --> local files.
jobsagoodun'

Opera mini is great if you have slow connection(GPRS only), it is very fast, much faster browser than opera mobile. BTW original opera mobile freezes very often on my HD.

matthoy said:
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/htc_ppc6800_mogul/
just download to the two file from there.
opera-mini-advanced.jad
opera-mini-advanced.jar
stick them in a temp folder.
then run the java app. install --> local files.
jobsagoodun'
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thx
I woult to know one thing:
why this versione htc_ppc6800_mogul is the best for blackstone?
do you think will be released a dedicated version of opera mini for blasktone?

Mini Is Mini!!
to me..mini isnt worth it. TOO SMALL, not that much faster either. I cant find a zoom either.
After regular Opera, need jewelers loupes to read it.
Have to use stylus....blah blah...no way

Hell
I like the MINI - very fast
BUT
Does anybody know a trick to make the Font bigger ?
The menu is so small - even with the settings set to biggest Font
Thank you for help

Now why doesn't Opera Mobile have a function to zoom out to a total overview like mini does. I'm sick of spending 5 minutes scrolling down a long page with all the annoying f***** lockups!!

jackthekayman said:
thx
I woult to know one thing:
why this versione htc_ppc6800_mogul is the best for blackstone?
do you think will be released a dedicated version of opera mini for blasktone?
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There is one version of opera mini only. The only small differnce on some versions is that some versions are signed for differend java runtimes. That means you dont have to grant internet and storage access all the time. but the browser itself is allways the same - i even use i on a very low end mobile motorola L6...
There wont be dedicated blackstone version, but maybe they will increase the fontsize with comin up more and more VGA and WVGA devices

PJD-de said:
There is one version of opera mini only. The only small differnce on some versions is that some versions are signed for differend java runtimes. That means you dont have to grant internet and storage access all the time. but the browser itself is allways the same - i even use i on a very low end mobile motorola L6...
There wont be dedicated blackstone version, but maybe they will increase the fontsize with comin up more and more VGA and WVGA devices
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ok thx very much

another thread
have you checked out ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407656

cheaper
From what I know, the opera mini goes through operas server which compresses the web sites and reduces the gprs cost very much compared to the full opera!

I can't find in opera mini how to enable the zoom button...is it there?

Opera mini - full screen?
Hi!
One question concerning opera mini - does it run in full screen on the touch hd?
On my htc X7500 there are the operating system bars above and under the java runtime so opera mini cannnot use all the display and run in full screen mode
Could someone please post a photo of the HD running opera mini with a web site like cnn.com loaded?
thanks!

ubik said:
Hi!
One question concerning opera mini - does it run in full screen on the touch hd?
On my htc X7500 there are the operating system bars above and under the java runtime so opera mini cannnot use all the display and run in full screen mode
Could someone please post a photo of the HD running opera mini with a web site like cnn.com loaded?
thanks!
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yes it's full screen.
By the way, I have problems with entering address, because no keyboard is available. How do you do it guys?

Anyone using Opera Mini ?

I've just installed Opera Mini on my Jade and I have to say, it's pretty nice.
Unlike Opera Mobile it is very fast and the zooming and display is better for a small screen like the 320x240 Jade screen.
Since the websites and images will be compressed by the Opera servers, the traffic is lower and the speed higher. Of course, I won't use the browser for sensible data, because the data runs through Opera proxies. But for normal browsing it's great.
The only problem: I can't switch to fullscreen, because the fullscreen can only be enabled by a key combination which I don't have on my Jade. Maybe someone knows how to fix this.
But it's still a nice browser.

Yes agree, I must say the speed is pretty impressive compared with the Op Mob even by setting graphics to high. btw is is there any method to launch it direct without launching jBlend first ? Am I missing something ? Cheers.

Here is a very useful overview of the features the most popular JVMs have.
As for the direct shortcut, my jade came with esmertec jbed, here is a description how to invoke opera mini (or any other midlet) directly from windows.
The problem is there's no description how to do that with jblend (why don't you use the preinstalled jbed, anyway?)

Mine is pre installed with JBlend. I've found the direct shortcut command i.e. \Windows\JBlend_AMS.exe -R 0.jar (0 is where your Opera Mini is in \windows\java, depending on your other installations.)
Thanks.

azahidi, would you highly recommend using opera mini or the stock opera browser?

Hi !
Yes Opera Mini is Very Fast ! That Good but i have the solution for your problem !
When you are on Opera Mini go to :
Setting => Full screen
that very simple but i don't know if you want that or an other "full screen"
Bye
DarKSniper

xtremez said:
azahidi, would you highly recommend using opera mini or the stock opera browser?
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well, for me I prefer the stock opera mobile. still sticking to it. it depends on how comfortable you are with the functionalities

azahidi said:
well, for me I prefer the stock opera mobile. still sticking to it. it depends on how comfortable you are with the functionalities
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For me the same: I find it important that the browser is fully integrated in the operating system (Windows mobile). Opera mini as a java-applet only has limited connections to the other functions of the phone (example: direct dial of telephone-numbers listed on web pages).

MvBoe said:
For me the same: I find it important that the browser is fully integrated in the operating system (Windows mobile). Opera mini as a java-applet only has limited connections to the other functions of the phone (example: direct dial of telephone-numbers listed on web pages).
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Talking about java-applet. How many of you are using Jblend? I tried today installing those 3D games that supposedly work with Jblend..but failed miserably in doing so...need help!

There is only a java version now, no PPC version. I don't like java programs.

Opera mini5 can not use the zoombar!

How set the reg to active the zoombar in the opera mini5?
Help

Why are you using Opera Mini 5? you have a Touch 2 not an old LG, get updated to Opera Mobile 10.

Opera mobile 10 also can not use the zoombar in touch2!

Try Skyfire, may be you can use it in it.

qazqas said:
Opera mobile 10 also can not use the zoombar in touch2!
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I didnt say it could
but honestly, if an app designed specifically for windows mobile doesnt use the htc zoombar what chance do you have of getting opera 5 using it?
Oh, yeah I forgot about Skyfire.

Uppy said:
Why are you using Opera Mini 5? you have a Touch 2 not an old LG, get updated to Opera Mobile 10.
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hereby i have a question and a problem. i downloaded opera mobile 10 and set it as default browser of my touch 2 but since the old version is still in my device, whenever i try to use internet it leads me to the old opera.
the old version is located in the ROM and i can't find a way to remove it. does anybody know how to remove it or a way to upgrade it instead of installing another opera (opera mobile 10)?

Zoom bar not working in opera mini and opera 10

bizon69 said:
Zoom bar not working in opera mini and opera 10
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Really, damn i didnt know that Try skyfire.

The zoom bar only works in the stock opera 9 from the default roms afaik.
I still run opera mini 5 because its just so much faster than the rest, including mobile 10.

Opera mini Questions

I really like how much faster Opera mini is, is there anyway to make it the default browser? It doesn't seem to play nice when its installed alongside Opera 10.
Thanks

Opera Mini Default Browser?
I agree. I love how fast Opera mini moves and I like it even better than any of the Facebook apps that I've seen for use with FB, but I don't know how to make it my default browser. Any help?

It should already by the default browser?
it is on mine already

screwdriver6311 said:
It should already by the default browser?
it is on mine already
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No, it (Opera Mini) should not be already, and very unlikely is on yours.
Two browsers come pre-installed on the TMo HD2. Opera Mobile 9 and Internet Explorer. Opera Mobile 9 is set as the default browser.
Opera Mini is a different browser from Opera Mobile. It used to only run as a java midlet, but now there is a beta available that runs directly in WM.
Confusing, but there are three different Opera browsers that users can use on the phone. Opera Mobile 9 comes with the phone, but one can download and install the newer Opera Mobile 10. One can also install Opera Mini 5, WM version. (Or the java midlet version, for that matter)