I would to try opera mini, but on the official site I can't understand wich version is the best for the HD:
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/
Dude the HD comes with Opera installed? I believe you can upgrade the version 2682 that comes installed to version 2745. check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252
Is Opera mini somehow better or different to Opera Mobile???
Just installed opera mini on my blackstone.
and it works like a dream.
its runs so much faster than the full version its almost unbelievable! the text might be a bit on the small side, but the pointer comes in handy for all that.
just doing some tests on the the independant website. downloaded, rendered and displayed in about 7 seconds. compare that against the full opera where your looking at about 20 seconds for the whole front page to display.
the mini version also offers proper double clicks for links and none of this zooming in and out by accident malarky.
get onto it. you won't regret it.
for the record installed the PPC600 Mogul version and everything looks great.
IIRC opera mini pre renders everything through their servers?
matthoy said:
Just installed opera mini on my blackstone.
and it works like a dream.
its runs so much faster than the full version its almost unbelievable! the text might be a bit on the small side, but the pointer comes in handy for all that.
just doing some tests on the the independant website. downloaded, rendered and displayed in about 7 seconds. compare that against the full opera where your looking at about 20 seconds for the whole front page to display.
the mini version also offers proper double clicks for links and none of this zooming in and out by accident malarky.
get onto it. you won't regret it.
for the record installed the PPC600 Mogul version and everything looks great.
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which versione doo you use? could you link me pls?
I think that is faster that normal opera and more suitable for gprs and 3g navigation than normal opera, isn't it?
in blackstone should be preinstalled opera not opera mini
yes, I'm sure. for me the mini version is far superior than it's big brother (Full RRS support for starters - yes i know the blackstone has the RSS hub, but this isn't linked to full opera browser - so not much use really).
there will be some sites that work better on the full version, but as far as my testing today has gone, all of the sites i used look and perform better in the mini version.
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yep.
and it looks great on the touch;s big screen.
i used it a lot on my e650 (suffered from a lot of image duplication when wrapping the page to the screen) but not on the touch, it's great!
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could you link the version of operamini you use on blackstone pls?
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/htc_ppc6800_mogul/
just download to the two file from there.
opera-mini-advanced.jad
opera-mini-advanced.jar
stick them in a temp folder.
then run the java app. install --> local files.
jobsagoodun'
Opera mini is great if you have slow connection(GPRS only), it is very fast, much faster browser than opera mobile. BTW original opera mobile freezes very often on my HD.
matthoy said:
http://www.operamini.com/download/pc/htc/htc_ppc6800_mogul/
just download to the two file from there.
opera-mini-advanced.jad
opera-mini-advanced.jar
stick them in a temp folder.
then run the java app. install --> local files.
jobsagoodun'
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thx
I woult to know one thing:
why this versione htc_ppc6800_mogul is the best for blackstone?
do you think will be released a dedicated version of opera mini for blasktone?
Mini Is Mini!!
to me..mini isnt worth it. TOO SMALL, not that much faster either. I cant find a zoom either.
After regular Opera, need jewelers loupes to read it.
Have to use stylus....blah blah...no way
Hell
I like the MINI - very fast
BUT
Does anybody know a trick to make the Font bigger ?
The menu is so small - even with the settings set to biggest Font
Thank you for help
Now why doesn't Opera Mobile have a function to zoom out to a total overview like mini does. I'm sick of spending 5 minutes scrolling down a long page with all the annoying f***** lockups!!
jackthekayman said:
thx
I woult to know one thing:
why this versione htc_ppc6800_mogul is the best for blackstone?
do you think will be released a dedicated version of opera mini for blasktone?
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There is one version of opera mini only. The only small differnce on some versions is that some versions are signed for differend java runtimes. That means you dont have to grant internet and storage access all the time. but the browser itself is allways the same - i even use i on a very low end mobile motorola L6...
There wont be dedicated blackstone version, but maybe they will increase the fontsize with comin up more and more VGA and WVGA devices
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There is one version of opera mini only. The only small differnce on some versions is that some versions are signed for differend java runtimes. That means you dont have to grant internet and storage access all the time. but the browser itself is allways the same - i even use i on a very low end mobile motorola L6...
There wont be dedicated blackstone version, but maybe they will increase the fontsize with comin up more and more VGA and WVGA devices
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ok thx very much
another thread
have you checked out ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407656
cheaper
From what I know, the opera mini goes through operas server which compresses the web sites and reduces the gprs cost very much compared to the full opera!
I can't find in opera mini how to enable the zoom button...is it there?
Opera mini - full screen?
Hi!
One question concerning opera mini - does it run in full screen on the touch hd?
On my htc X7500 there are the operating system bars above and under the java runtime so opera mini cannnot use all the display and run in full screen mode
Could someone please post a photo of the HD running opera mini with a web site like cnn.com loaded?
thanks!
ubik said:
Hi!
One question concerning opera mini - does it run in full screen on the touch hd?
On my htc X7500 there are the operating system bars above and under the java runtime so opera mini cannnot use all the display and run in full screen mode
Could someone please post a photo of the HD running opera mini with a web site like cnn.com loaded?
thanks!
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yes it's full screen.
By the way, I have problems with entering address, because no keyboard is available. How do you do it guys?
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I'm having problems with opera mobile - after using it for about 20 seconds or so, scrolling, or clicking links, it freezes and I have to close it. This is really inconvenient because now i have to use pocket ie . Alternatively, is there a hack to make the arrow buttons/d-pad scroll the page instead of the links? Or even better, grab and scroll like in opera? thanks
Why not just use opera mini? I pefer that to opera mobile personally
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Why not just use opera mini? I pefer that to opera mobile personally
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same, plus opera mini works really well with teh herald.
Well i've never really been able to figure out mini, plus I don't like how it always brings up another window if you want to type in a website address...I've also found that mini unnecessarily takes up a lot of space on the screen and has unusable scroll bars. Also, when I go to live.com on mini, it also shows up in danish or something...
It all depends on the website loaded... My Titan slows down on pages flooded with a zillion images and the like...
That is with a 400Mhz chip...
Thing is, it slows down no matter what you're doing - it froze when I clicked on the address bar to type something a couple times...
also, is there a way to make PIE not scroll by links?
After paying for Opera mobile, I no longer use it. Its just too slow. It's a shame that pIE is faster than OM.
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After paying for Opera mobile, I no longer use it. Its just too slow. It's a shame that pIE is faster than OM.
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Well i use Opera MObile 9.5.1 beta its very good and its free. I uploaded the cab for you guys.
EDIT: hmmm...upload is not working so i gave the link to the file instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have been running the opera 9.5 that has been floating around these forums that was ripped from the diamond (not the beta from opera's website as it is much buggier), and running it on my wing works great without any lockups at all.
I do have my wing oc'd to 286, but I have tried it at 200 mhz and there wasn't much of a slow down.
I've been to others subforums and asked there but I haven't got any real answer, so I decided to make a thread (again) here.
So guys, where can I get these apps : (don't say, use this or that ROM, I don't want ROMs, just the cabs)
1. HTC HD Audio booster (not the old one, because I had it and the fonts size was too small)
2. HTC HD USB-PC Popup
3. HTC HD enlarge start menu
4. Opera 9.5 newest built (2808?) for WVGA *obviously*
5. newest flash lite
and how to uninstall the preinstalled Opera and flash lite? or can I just install the newer ones?
anyone else also noticed that the preinstalled opera is a hungry power sucker? it drains battery far faster than opera mini i've been using to type this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452113
Can opera mini be installed on X1?
nap007 said:
anyone else also noticed that the preinstalled opera is a hungry power sucker? it drains battery far faster than opera mini i've been using to type this post.
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How can one version be power hungry compared to another?
people, opera mobile =/ opera mini and yes opera mini can be used in X1.
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1. HTC HD Audio booster (not the old one, because I had it and the fonts size was too small)
2. HTC HD USB-PC Popup
3. HTC HD enlarge start menu
4. Opera 9.5 newest built (2808?) for WVGA *obviously*
5. newest flash lite
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I wouldn't mind having those in cabs as well, I believe the opera build can be downloaded off opera's website, though the HD USB-PC I have yet to find.
Opera mini = java based app that uses server side compression to get the webpages to you.
see mini.opera.com
opera mobile = (in this case) windows mobile native app that doesn't use serverside rendering (yet)..
see opera.com/mobile there is no specific WVGA version, it's purely down to the skins and teh vga skins work fine. I'm using 9.5 official beta 2 at the moment to type this.
as to all the apps you want search for them, they are on this forum!
^ yeah, but the only one easy to find is HTC enlarge start menu, I can't find audio booster and USB-PC popup cabs; so instead of saying like that, why don't u help me?
So is it that much quicker rendering?
Either i'm getting older, and less forgiving of people, or people are getting lazier, and relying upon good natured people to do their work for them.
Search is a marvellous thing on a forum, also Google is quite brilliant.
In just a few minutes, i managed to find 4 of the 5 things you are looking for.
Best of luck.
Which version of opera mini? Generic? The buttons are much too small
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Either i'm getting older, and less forgiving of people, or people are getting lazier, and relying upon good natured people to do their work for them.
Search is a marvellous thing on a forum, also Google is quite brilliant.
In just a few minutes, i managed to find 4 of the 5 things you are looking for.
Best of luck.
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You're getting less forgiving, but its not just you.
astral1 said:
Either i'm getting older, and less forgiving of people, or people are getting lazier, and relying upon good natured people to do their work for them.
Search is a marvellous thing on a forum, also Google is quite brilliant.
In just a few minutes, i managed to find 4 of the 5 things you are looking for.
Best of luck.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=18674005
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=18674082
TBH I'm getting annoyed here as I can't find what you claimed it was so easy to find.
So which opera mini?
I've just installed Opera Mini on my Jade and I have to say, it's pretty nice.
Unlike Opera Mobile it is very fast and the zooming and display is better for a small screen like the 320x240 Jade screen.
Since the websites and images will be compressed by the Opera servers, the traffic is lower and the speed higher. Of course, I won't use the browser for sensible data, because the data runs through Opera proxies. But for normal browsing it's great.
The only problem: I can't switch to fullscreen, because the fullscreen can only be enabled by a key combination which I don't have on my Jade. Maybe someone knows how to fix this.
But it's still a nice browser.
Yes agree, I must say the speed is pretty impressive compared with the Op Mob even by setting graphics to high. btw is is there any method to launch it direct without launching jBlend first ? Am I missing something ? Cheers.
Here is a very useful overview of the features the most popular JVMs have.
As for the direct shortcut, my jade came with esmertec jbed, here is a description how to invoke opera mini (or any other midlet) directly from windows.
The problem is there's no description how to do that with jblend (why don't you use the preinstalled jbed, anyway?)
Mine is pre installed with JBlend. I've found the direct shortcut command i.e. \Windows\JBlend_AMS.exe -R 0.jar (0 is where your Opera Mini is in \windows\java, depending on your other installations.)
Thanks.
azahidi, would you highly recommend using opera mini or the stock opera browser?
Hi !
Yes Opera Mini is Very Fast ! That Good but i have the solution for your problem !
When you are on Opera Mini go to :
Setting => Full screen
that very simple but i don't know if you want that or an other "full screen"
Bye
DarKSniper
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azahidi, would you highly recommend using opera mini or the stock opera browser?
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well, for me I prefer the stock opera mobile. still sticking to it. it depends on how comfortable you are with the functionalities
azahidi said:
well, for me I prefer the stock opera mobile. still sticking to it. it depends on how comfortable you are with the functionalities
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For me the same: I find it important that the browser is fully integrated in the operating system (Windows mobile). Opera mini as a java-applet only has limited connections to the other functions of the phone (example: direct dial of telephone-numbers listed on web pages).
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For me the same: I find it important that the browser is fully integrated in the operating system (Windows mobile). Opera mini as a java-applet only has limited connections to the other functions of the phone (example: direct dial of telephone-numbers listed on web pages).
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Talking about java-applet. How many of you are using Jblend? I tried today installing those 3D games that supposedly work with Jblend..but failed miserably in doing so...need help!
There is only a java version now, no PPC version. I don't like java programs.
why dont you chefs use opera mini ...its 10 times faster than opera 10...
I'm guessing the main reason is that the rendering isn't as good and it doesn't support plugins, since the pages are compressed and rendered through Opera's servers. In addition, the native version of Opera Mini has only been out for around a week. Besides, you can always install it yourself, so it's not even that big a deal.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm guessing the main reason is that the rendering isn't as good and it doesn't support plugins, since the pages are compressed and rendered through Opera's servers. In addition, the native version of Opera Mini has only been out for around a week. Besides, you can always install it yourself, so it's not even that big a deal.
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Agree with that, opera mini might be faster but it doesn't provide a complete web experience. Mini doesn't support either flash or interactive sites, like JavaScript based ones. I personally would prefer Opera Mobile 10 beta v2 and, for flash, v3. Even if it consumes memory space like nothing else
when i use opera mini 5 .....and i go to watch a video it works
1milenia said:
when i use opera mini 5 .....and i go to watch a video it works
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That may not be flash, it could be the Streaming Media Program playing the video for you.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm guessing the main reason is that the rendering isn't as good and it doesn't support plugins, since the pages are compressed and rendered through Opera's servers. In addition, the native version of Opera Mini has only been out for around a week. Besides, you can always install it yourself, so it's not even that big a deal.
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And also, can't be set as default yet.
Opera 10 beta 3 launched Veeeryy slow. It was the only reason for me , for deleting it for ever. Im going to try out the mini version.. thanks for the hint
I have installed opera mini 5 now, but on some pages, like
www.openingstijden.nu or m.opentot.nl it doesnt give any search Results.. can somebody test and confirm this please.
I can´t see youtube in opera . I installed flash lite 3.1
and nothing i applied the fixOperaFlash v1.5.4.0 with the latest fixOperaFlash.ini
replaced on \windows and nothing any suggestion?
Thank you
field3d said:
I can´t see youtube in opera . I installed flash lite 3.1
and nothing i applied the fixOperaFlash v1.5.4.0 with the latest fixOperaFlash.ini
replaced on \windows and nothing any suggestion?
Thank you
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I could never get Flash working in Opera, until I got Opera 10. Now it works on most sites, and works great on YouTube, especially when switching to fullscreen! I still prefer to use the YouTube app though.
Ok
Ok now for install opera 10 i need to uninstall fix opera and flash lite?
And where can i see more how to install about opera 10 installation. Thank you
field3d said:
Ok now for install opera 10 i need to uninstall fix opera and flash lite?
And where can i see more how to install about opera 10 installation. Thank you
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I wouldn't worry about uninstalling the flash stuff you've already installed. If you do want to do it then they should be in your "remove programs" list (Settings, Menu, All Settings, System, Remove Programs).
You can find out all you need about Opera 10 from http://m.opera.com
The only thing you need to remember is that you must turn on plugins when you've installed it, otherwise Flash won't work.
Can someone tell me
1. What are the major benefits between the version of Opera Mobile currently on the HD2 and this latest Opera Mobile version
2. Sam as above but major differences between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
I am considering Opera mini as a fellow HD2 user states it is so much better than Opera Mobile
Many Thanks
thank you
thank you for all i´ll check that
Opera Mobile 10 is pretty much identical to opera mini now. But Mini runs inside java virtual machine, so no fullscreen, doesn't really like being put in the background, need to confirm connection each time you launch it,... so Mobile 10 is preferable. If you turn on Turbo mode it uses the server based rendering like mini.
Just try it and you'll see... personally I don't like the lack of pinch to zoom and somewhat broken zoom in OM10, so I stay with the default OM9.7.
I am using Opera 10 and i have turned on the plugins. I have also instaled flash lite 3.1 on my Asus P565. I can see some of the videos on youtube (not m.youtube) but not all of them.
Can you see all of the videos ?
kilrah said:
Opera Mobile 10 is pretty much identical to opera mini now. But Mini runs inside java virtual machine, so no fullscreen, doesn't really like being put in the background, need to confirm connection each time you launch it,... so Mobile 10 is preferable. If you turn on Turbo mode it uses the server based rendering like mini.
Just try it and you'll see... personally I don't like the lack of pinch to zoom and somewhat broken zoom in OM10, so I stay with the default OM9.7.
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Thanks, so is often the case new technology is often promoted with a one sided view i.e. all the benefits but not the delta changes (negatives). So I won't be going Opera Mini.
Turbo mode would be nice but losing a good zoom in feature means I'll also stick to what I have. Is this lower zoom capability by design or a bug (i.e. might be fixed one day)?
kilrah said:
Opera Mobile 10 is pretty much identical to opera mini now. But Mini runs inside java virtual machine, so no fullscreen, doesn't really like being put in the background, need to confirm connection each time you launch it,... so Mobile 10 is preferable. If you turn on Turbo mode it uses the server based rendering like mini.
Just try it and you'll see... personally I don't like the lack of pinch to zoom and somewhat broken zoom in OM10, so I stay with the default OM9.7.
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Opera Mini isn't Java anymore
http://m.opera.com/?act=lp&tag=mini5wm&cert=®ion=&rnd=2117407909