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What about Skype and Sip functions ?

Hi all,
I have Qtek s100 since exactly 2 years. I am very happy and even after relasing so many HTC PDA phones after that, I really did not think of changing my phone. Now I see P3600 as probable candidate to replace my S100. But in addition to size and processor, I would also be looking at some key features as justification to change. I am not going to use 3G or 2MP camera. so, lets narrow down to Free/very cheap phone function on this phone.
- anybody tried to install Skype client to make audio calls on wifi connection?
- Also anybody checked function of SIP voip client like SJPhone again using wifi?
If these features are going to have problem with.. I would still stay back with S100 happily.
AS

Skype works fine on it and I run VoIPSurfer for SIP without any problems!

Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)

n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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This is only available on the Eten X500. I finally decided to get this instead of the Trinity coz I dun use the 3G and the GPS is a lot better on the X500.

n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is a limitation in Skype. Try using a headset. Not BT though, since the processor can't handle both Skype and BT headset at the same time..

With my LOOX 720, we also have a "large" speaker (badly positioned even if you wanted to ignore that it is a loudspeaker and put it in your ear) and a small "phone" speaker (placed correctly where you would put your ear), although FSC never released any VoIP app for the device (and LOOX is not a phone).
Skype (and other VoIP apps) worked as you say. Audio was coming out of the main speaker, plus they (Skype) ignored our requests to use the correct speaker (or didn't know what to do about it).
Then some guys noticed that the small speaker was ALWAYS outputing audio (in apps/games etc.), but since it is a small phone speaker, you have to put your ear on to hear it. Also this gives more "depth" in 720 audio (since the tiny speaker does its part). Anyway, that was an interesting discovery because it led to research that gave something more important:
A simple registry entry could shut-off the main speaker while keeping the phone speaker working! No need for soft reset or anything! Some even made a little program for this (which also keeps different volume levels for when on and off since eg. I want volume=2 when loudspeaker is on and volume=4 when only ear speaker is on). Toggle it whenever we want (I have a shortcut in my today screen for it).
So I am thinking... look for something like that in Trinity also? It should even be simpler because I am sure Trinity has pretty clear and distinct volume values for both speakers (since this IS a phone after all).

Maybe a shortcut to a registry key could allow to control the speaker volume... like in the loox. I'll try to search registry... Anyway, this is a known issue for skype, so probably they will be working on that on future releases, maybe it needs customization for every particular model. _http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=71698

Skype and Bluetooth
I use a stereo BT headset and it works great (iTech clip S38). I used another program to toggle, but battery life went to a couple of hours, even when not in use. If you Skype a lot, or even once on an international trip, the cost is well justified.

n0t said:
Anyone can get skype sound to come trough the phone speaker instead of the loudspeaker? (I think it is a software limitation, but is there a workarround?)
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It is possible now with the last final (not beta) version of Skype (2.2.20 or something like that).
The problem is, this final version doesn't work for all phones. You can see the list of supported devices on Skype download page.
The Trinity is not supported on this final version. You can only use chat function, and when you place a voice call, the application automatically shut down.
That's why we keep running the previous beta versions, which work fine, but the sound come from the back speaker
I tried this final version on my wizard, and I confirm that the sound does come from the ear-piece, for the first time in skype history. But strangely enough, this 'new' skype is only compatible with 'old' phones...

The text found below was sent to Skype by me today
Dear Skype,
#1 please sent me a list of supported Pocket PC’s that work with skype and with a Bluetooth A2dp Headset.
The one I have now can be found at: http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/products/Pages/JabraBT8040.aspx and I works really well for windows media mobile.
#2 I currently have the following device which does not work with Skype for the Pocket PC with an A2dp headset. I am very upset about this; I really want to use your skype out service, but cant.
My Device Information: Unlocked
HTC P3600, Trinity
ROM version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12h
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I have installed the following versions of Skype for PPC
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.0.0.51-LowCPU.cab
SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab
kypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.20-Beta.exe
SkypeForPocketPCNew.CAB
The only one that works is the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab it works perfectly for the HTC P3600, Trinity however, "only" when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
the SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab, I feel, does not work with any A2DP Bluetooth headset.
I have tried the following A2DP Bluetooth headsets
JabraBt8040
Link: same as above
Plantronics Voyager 855 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
Lubix UBHS-NC1 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
I think something goes wrong when the Bluetooth stack tries transfer the Skype audio to the Bluetooth headsets it gets all messed up with lots of echoes and sound disconnects and, latency and so on. However playing any multimedia files on the phone work perfectly through my A2DP Bluetooth headset.
Like a said SkypeForPocketPC-2.2.0.18-Beta.cab works perfectly only when you use the corded headset that attaches to the mini usb on the phone, or just the speaker that is on the back of the phone the “external speaker”.
I have also tried to use a whole bunch of 3rd party applications that redirected the sound to my older mono headsets. I tried three of them, and that did not work either. It’s something when the speaker sound gets transferd to any BT device.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/welcome/cart.php?target=product&product_id=1128&category_id=40
I read that It works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones earpiece after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:cwIdCCuH2LEJ:www.etenblog.com/2007/11/13/getting-skype-to-work-as-it-should/+skype+Switch+program&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.
Update: 02/16/08
I Just got an ETEN x800 and istalled the Skype Switch and took skype for a test run ,, ya,ya, the sound gets redirected to the earpiece,,, ya, but it sonds like sh_t also..
Someone out there has to be able to Hack this mess.

DTMF ,Fring, PPC Skype, And A2DP.
For the Skype sound problem not going through the BT headset someone on this site suggested using fring which is a fantastic idea, however it’s always something... with fring you can place a Skype out call but during the call you can’t navigate company’s phone menu during the call like, “press 1 for billing” “press 2 for sales”. There isn’t even a dial pad. When I contacted there support department I got this:
Hello,
Thank you for contacting our support team.
Currently, it is not available to dial DTMF sounds on fring, this should be implemented in future versions. You can stay up to date on new releases from our blog http://www.fring.com/blog/
In other words, I’m not holding my breath.
Is there a way to transmit a DTMF signal to the input of a Bluetooth A2DP headset? I don’t mean literally, just a sound redirect, in other words trick it into thinking it’s me making the DTMF sound.
I can’t find anything on the net except for Dial-a-matic, which will not work. I also took a look at Pocket Dialer v1.03 but there is no way to redirect sound. I also thought that maybe Kai’s ContactDialer would work but I don’t think it does, or I don’t understand how to use it and get it to work.
I also wonder if all of these problems are salved on WM6 I was looking at upgrading to the new HTC P3470 but the processor is slower than the p3600.
God,, do I want to get rid of that stupid weird mini HTC usb headset, ridicules for a $700 phone.
I wouldn’t need to go through all this if Skype would just finally fix their PPC version to work with a Bluetooth headset.
(((((( Update I just used the the btaudio.zip that qyach posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289720
it works but the mono sound is still not very good, nothing like a mobile phone call sound, and no ware near the sound quality with the corded headset that came with the HTC P3600 What to do,, anyone?
Im thinking of getting a ETEN X800 http://www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com/...category_id=40
I read that IT works well with Skype, and the sound is sent to the phones speakers after installing a piece of software that ETEN developed called Skype Switch, therefore it should work with a BT headset.
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=2&gl=us
But now some sales man who sounded like he know what he was talking about, said that the ETEN phones are flaky and that 70% of the ETEN phones that he sells get returned.
I don’t know what to do, but, dam it I want a WM5 or WM6 Phone that works perfect with Skype sound BT and all.
Now the only problem is how much better or worse is HTC V.S. ETEN? I really am looking for a cool looking phone something small and sleek that will work perfect with Skype mobile. The ETEN X800 looked like it was the solution. But now I don’t know what to do.
Someone please help.

Voip Wizard

Bought a wizard on ebay, nice refurb with all new accessories and battery for a good price...the only reason I bought it was for voip, if it scratched my right nut I could care less, all the other features are 2nd to voip for me.
It worked best with wm5 and sjphone, wm6 and it's voip capabilities are no better than any other 3rd party app I have tried.
Even with a plugged in headset there is echo, it's not a config problem it's as simple as audio feeding back from from input to output, and vice versa. I know alot about voip and setting it up, I provide hosted asterisk servers to business and do all the configs myself.
Is there a htc product that does voip properly through the ear piece?
And is blue tooth at least usable, as I understand it you need to load some audio drivers to get the best out of it?
Any advice from someone who has had success would be appreciated, I understand that fixing the ear piece problem is likely far off.
Thanks

no voice when using voip
Hi, i am new to voip (as i only recently moved from my home country), i am using it on my pc and got it configured on HTC P3600 (TRINITY). i am using VOIPRAIDER to call, my calls go smoothly and receivers can hear me but i hear nothing not even thru speaker, no outgoing ring, no voice. secondly i installed sj phone etc on PDA but don't know how to use. can someone tell me. thanks

Which is the BEST VOIP app??

As the title said....
Which is the best voip application??
I wanna it running on my Touch....
I've already tried SjPhone..
But it uses the stereospeaker (not the internal one) and the partner gets bad echos while speaking....
Is there a way to make it use the internal speaker or could you suggest me a better app??
Let me know..
Thank you!!

Noone??
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flaviopac said:
Noone??
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There is NO app that uses the internal phonespeaker....
And the built in VoIP in WM6 is working good.
BUT only with headset

papamopps said:
There is NO app that uses the internal phonespeaker....
And the built in VoIP in WM6 is working good.
BUT only with headset
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How can I set my built in voip?
I didn't know anything about it...

flaviopac said:
How can I set my built in voip?
I didn't know anything about it...
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then use the google search function.....
and the forum search function.
- voip
voipsettings.cab
you will find it

Any solution for the echos?

Use headset

I tried it with the standard HTC headset, it works very well....
But when I try to use it with my BLUETOOTH headset, it doesn't work....
I mean that if I call someone using the standard mode, it works correctly, but if I use SjPhone, the program uses the stereospeaker, not the bluetooth headset.......
Why??

flaviopac said:
I tried it with the standard HTC headset, it works very well....
But when I try to use it with my BLUETOOTH headset, it doesn't work....
I mean that if I call someone using the standard mode, it works correctly, but if I use SjPhone, the program uses the stereospeaker, not the bluetooth headset.......
Why??
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btaudio.cab redirects audio from the system speaker(s) to a bt headset. may want to give that a shot.

yes, BTAUDIO.cab or search for "bluetooth toggle". Those will make it so all PPC audio go to the BT hdset, even when on just the BT headset profile.
Or if you sign up with a company like VOIP Raider or VOIPStunt.com, they have a phone-to-phone option that let you use your PHONE signal (not data) to make calls. there's a small connection fee (like 5 euro cents), but otherwise, it has the same cost as a regular call. this has the advantage of not relying on data and the connections are MUCH MUCH better for the phone call.
Not sure if this will do what you want, but it does work well if it meets your usage scenario.

Fring, SJphone or any SIP client on TP2

Was anyone successful with using fring, SJphone or any other SIP client on TP2?
Thanks.

AGEphone , nimbuzz, portsip, fring worked for me. I heard voice ok, but other side always say they can't hear me. This is with gizmo5.

Hi Pivazia,
Google for X-Lite. This is free app I have tested on TP2 in combination with my company TrixBOX server and worked O.K.
Only that I did not manage is to drive sound through earpiece (the sound goes through speakerphone).
Sorry about my English.
Regards,
Nino.

I've used SJ, x-lite, and the internal VOIP on WM6. SJ is bar far my fav. All work alright, but I have volume issues with the internal voip - too quiet. Using an external earpiece is easiest with all apps, but you can use Audioroute to force the audio to the internal earpiece. All wm voip apps will route to either the speakerphone or the external earpiece by default unless you use audioroute.
Also, download Don't Sleep Wifi so that you can use voip on wifi easily without the phone going to sleep (and killing your call!)

Here is the link for SJPhone: http://www.sjphone.org/preview/SJphone-1.60-WindowsCE(preview)/
Which version did you try?
So far I used fring, call quality is ok but the sound comes out of the rear speaker...maybe I should try plugging in the headphone and test...

for me is the same problem, cant make without the speaker. will try now the audioroute. so far fring works good on wifi and 3g with like 2 sec delay

chopsxxx said:
... Using an external earpiece is easiest with all apps, but you can use Audioroute to force the audio to the internal earpiece. All wm voip apps will route to either the speakerphone or the external earpiece by default unless you use audioroute.
Also, download Don't Sleep Wifi so that you can use voip on wifi easily without the phone going to sleep (and killing your call!)
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Hi Chopsxxx,
Speakerphone, as you say, is easier to use but sometimes need a little privacy. At least one side privacy.
Thanks for the tips about AudioRoute and Don't sleep. I will try!
Regards,
Nino.

Has anyone setup the internal voip on wm6.5 yet? If so what did you use and how?

I've been searching for Internet calling function in WM6.5 on the TP2 but nothing found yet. Has anyone got that working in WM6.5?

Fring works for me
I have Fring set up with my SipGate credentials. I use iDialer to originate calls through Google Voice.
I don't use this setup often, but it works fine when I do. For more information on my Winmo/Google Voice setup, see the links in my signature line.

use PortGo softphone, it is better than SJphone and the sound is coming from earpiece

portgo is not tat clear, i feel fring is much better with ear piece, i have tried nimbuzz too work ok but drawback is sound come thru speaker

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[Q] Are there any SIP programs for the Snap?

There are programs for windows mobile but I can't find any for windows smartphone 6.5 . I'm also looking for stock quotes software... one that can use stocks from non US markets.

I managed to get incoming VoIP/SIP working with a native app but it was a bit messed up. Basically I installed this package: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682
and followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950
I can't get outgoing to work, but incoming works.

Wow you got it working? Which device do you have? I tried with the HTC Maple (called Mobilicity Snap here) and could never get the audio to come through the earpiece.
Anyway, the two programs I've tried that DO work are AGEphone and fring.

On the Mobilicity HTC Snap I got it working, yes. The question was not about using the earpiece, it was about using the native VoIP client. In fact, I did manage to get the VoIP calls through the earpiece but it has a very bad negative effect: the ringer also goes through the earpiece after a few seconds, thus making the ring on incoming calls very quiet. In my opinion, it is much better to use the headset for VoIP calls as it provides excellent quality, no echo and no problems with the ringer.
The problem with outgoing calls is in the way WinMo's VoIP places the calls. They work with Voxalot but not PBXes. I am assuming everybody can just use Voxalot as a middleman between the HTC Snap and the voip provider if there are any problems with outgoing calls.

That's funny, as I could never get it working with the headset. Outgoing calls worked, but only over the speakerphone, while incoming calls had no audio at all. The mic didn't even work; I could press the keypad and get a DTMF tone, but that was it.
Could you tell me exactly which steps you took to get the audio to come out of the earpiece? I kind of gave up and am using fring, but it would be interesting to see how you did it.

xenyz said:
That's funny, as I could never get it working with the headset. Outgoing calls worked, but only over the speakerphone, while incoming calls had no audio at all. The mic didn't even work; I could press the keypad and get a DTMF tone, but that was it.
Could you tell me exactly which steps you took to get the audio to come out of the earpiece? I kind of gave up and am using fring, but it would be interesting to see how you did it.
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Sorry, apparently I was wrong, even with the earpiece hack (I tried both of them) the most you can achieve is to get the ringer to go through the earpiece but once the call connects it goes back to the speaker.
The only solution is to use the headset. I tried for outgoing only and I am able to dial, send DTMF and speak, so the mic works well.
With the native client on the HTC Snap VoIP works only with headset. Overall, I have been using WinMo for about a week and I can say that I hate it more than any other OS I have used. I wish we could get Android to boot but seems like the CPU on the Snap is messing up the effort.
Fring is also garbage on WinMo. It often fails to connect and when it does connect the call quality (over WiFi) is much worse compared to Fring on S60 or iOS. It eats the battery like a monster, something that doesn't happen on S60. There is no way to change/silence the ringtone with Fring on WinMo and if a call comes over the GSM line while you are on a call with Fring your Fring call goes through the speaker, very embarrassing.
I got my Snap for 100$ from Mobilicity and I think the hardware is worth it, but Microsoft should be paying me for being stuck with their useless OS.