Hi guys, was wondering, does D810 / P3600 have any A-GPS functionality? coz several GPS maps i used doesn't have any selection about A-GPS features.
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
says
"Internal GPSone Chip from Qualcomm, supports Standalone GPS and A-GPS (providing your network carrier supports it)"
Hi thanks for the info
hmmm how do we use the feature?
i used mapking but there is no agps feature. my network carrier told me that they do support A-GPS functionality
that at least needs oem/operator setup, let alone the question if the agps is disabled on the chip or not by htc/dopod.
ww2250 said:
that at least needs oem/operator setup, let alone the question if the agps is disabled on the chip or not by htc/dopod.
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i see, i installed bepe 0.79 wm6 coked rom, any idea whether he disabled the function? or it is disabled by default by dopod?
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Hi!
I see that the P3300 uses software to enable A-GPS no its device. Any1 go the software for Trinity as well?
I think the software developer is: http://www.globallocate.com/
unready said:
Hi!
I see that the P3300 uses software to enable A-GPS no its device. Any1 go the software for Trinity as well?
I think the software developer is: http://www.globallocate.com/
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Whatever software you put in your phone, A-GPS will only work if your operator supports it in their network. As far as I know as of today no operator in Europe has commercially deployed A-GPS.
anonimo said:
Whatever software you put in your phone, A-GPS will only work if your operator supports it in their network. As far as I know as of today no operator in Europe has commercially deployed A-GPS.
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That´s not true and the question is right. I am also looking for a software solution. The application on the 3300 just needed a Internet connection and get´s the information about the satellites from there. so you get a much faster GPS fix. we were all using it on the 3300 - in germany, austria and italy. Would be great having it also for the trinity
symobay said:
That´s not true and the question is right. I am also looking for a software solution. The application on the 3300 just needed a Internet connection and get´s the information about the satellites from there. so you get a much faster GPS fix. we were all using it on the 3300 - in germany, austria and italy. Would be great having it also for the trinity
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Can you explain how A-GPS can work if you can't access your operator's core network elements such as the SMLC (Serving Mobile Location Centre)?
Read this article and specifically the caption for picture 2:
http://www.gpsworld.com/gpsworld/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=12287
Sorry for the unrelated question but does anyone know any GPS software that has a Today Screen plugin for neatly displaying location info/stats on the Today Screen?
Hi !
I've tried a search on this forum but "no result for this search"
So is there a A-GPS functionnality and how can I use it ? with which soft ?
Thx for your answers (and sorry if it has already answered before )
KeitaroSenpai said:
Hi !
I've tried a search on this forum but "no result for this search"
So is there a A-GPS functionnality and how can I use it ? with which soft ?
Thx for your answers (and sorry if it has already answered before )
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No AGPS for this Qualcomm GPS.
Beware of placebo effect of avaricum QGPS that some guys are using
A-GPS is supported within the chipset, but there is not yet any software which can access it, and no-one appears to be developing any.
JeRoMe_aKa_JaY said:
No AGPS for this Qualcomm GPS.
Beware of placebo effect of avaricum QGPS that some guys are using
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It is not true!
Qualcomm MSM6275 Chipset is A-GPS
See here:
http://www.umtschips.com/products/msm6275_chipset_solution.jsp
we must wait for GpsOneXtra Assistance:
See here:
http://cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/gpsonextra_assistance.pdf
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we must wait for GpsOneXtra Assistance:
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So, no AGPS for this moment...
you're right, wait
To be honest, I don't quite think GpsOneXtra Assistance will really come to trinity.
The press release is even much later than its release, and probably even though the chipset supports it, there's still a need for OEM to support it either in the driver or the OS level.
To date, even Kaiser don't support this. So don't hold your breath....
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So, no AGPS for this moment...
you're right, wait
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Erm - no A-GPS is present. It is something that is network operator dependent - so to say no AGPS for the moment is not strictly true.
GpsOneXtra Assistance is not the same as A-GPS. A-GPS means that the network operator must implement a dedicated server on their netowrks to manage this and it would not work with roaming.
GpsOneXtra Assistance uses an internet connection to connect to a non network operator dependent server on the internet to get information.
So, we don't necessarily have to wait for GpsOneXtra Assistance and there is, at the moment A-GPS on the Trinity - but perhaps not your network operator.
Yes, you are correct that A-GPS is present in Trinity - but seems that there are few operator (about 50) which actually supports the GPSOne platform in their stations.
See http://www.cdmatech.com/locationservicesshowcase/highlights.jsp
And before every operator supports this crap, I guess the best way to get a quick fix is to have a software solution to download the pre-made ephemeris data and almanac data to the GPS chipset.
Or just go outside for 3 minutes, and get a proper fix!
HTC do support the A-GPS on the P3300 with a dedicated server, but fix times are only a few seconds faster than with GPS alone in many circumstances.
Approximately from 15 seconds to 45 secs...
This is maybe a stupid question! but if my operator supports gpsone platform, then how does it work? is there a software to activate this?
AFAIK there is not yet any software to activate the GPSOne facilities on WM devices.
Something new today ?....
I think that Orange France support this...
...any news?
Still nothing new on this matter?
In finland a lot of people have Nokias phones wich uses AGPS, so I think that its wery well supported by the local operators. But I didnt understand from the messages that is there any software to download from anywhere? Or do we still have to wait? Does anyone know anything more about this matter now?
In Germany O2 sends a cell brodcast on channel 221 giving the coordinates of the next cellphone tower in Gauß-Küger-Notation format (Can be converted to WGS84 gps coordinates easily).
Allso google maps mobile can use a similar system to determine your position when not using GPS (the funny thing about that: people with gps buildin help google maps determine where the cellphone towers are located.)
Now somehow feeding these coordinates + downloaded almanach into the chip sould decrease TTFF + TTF sicnificantly.
But since nobody really knows the functions of the qualcomm chip/driver this is pretty far away from us right now.
My dream would be:
Since I will recieve a Cell Broadcast massage every time i change my cellphone tower a nifty little program will load the Position into the chip (or every time I turn on GPS it loads them in, since I don`t know if the chip can be accessed when GPS turned off [won´t bet on that])
besides of that the same application sould download updated almanach-data and allso load them in on gps startup.
But I think this will stay a dream
The Pharos is supposed to have AGPS. Do they mean QuickGPS or is there really AGPS on it? Where can I find it on the Pharos?
I have the WM6.0 Dutch version.
when i turn on tomtom in my house it says im in the location of the nearest gsm beacon...before i have a satellite fix, thats assisted GPS i think...
quick gps only has the trajectories of satellites in the "local" sky so the gps chip can get a fix quicker
Strange, nothing happens when I start TomTom.
Can you give me your settings in the register:
HKLM>Software>HTC>SUPL AGPS>
i checked but no such key
wat is the setting of your key?
Keysetting in HKLM>Software>HTC>SUPL AGPS> is:
(Default) (value not set)
EnableAGPS 1
EnableGPSSmartMode 1
GPSMode 2
NumberFixes 389AC9FF
QosAccuracy 32 (50)
QosPerformance 59 (89)
ServerIP 195.207.101.126
Serverport 1E6C (7788)
TimeBetweenFixes 1
When I first started with the Pharos there was no AGPS, also not in the registry the Supl AGPS. I found a registry-entry for the Pharos on this site and put it on the Pharos. When I start 'Advanced Config' from Schaft I can see under GPS that AGPS is enabled.
When I start TomTom 7.9 there's no start of GPRS. Also my GPRS monitor sees no action. So I presume AGPS is not working.
Maybe I need some dll drivers, I don't know. Can somebody help?
you have a confusing story
first you talk about GPS and then about GPRS
these are 2 different things
GPRS is your data connection (in case EDGE is not available)
GPS is global positioning system and i didnt know tomtom 7.9 was out, i use 6.
if you do a simple search on the phorum you can see that tomtom 7.9 causes a few problems i suugest you read that!
my advice would be to revert back to 6 .. works great on the pharos
Maybe I'm confused. I thought Assited-GPS uses GPRS to make contact with the gsm beacons and so make a faster fix with these beacons. Am I wrong about that?
The builtin GPS from the Pharos works fine but is not very fast with the first fix. I thought AGPS would help making a faster fix.
I already had TomTom 7.4 and know 7.9 (cracked version). Works fine on the Pharos. I will look for the problems with 7.9 on the forum.
Thanks
hmmm yeah makes sense we do need a server to relay the info... but ive looked it up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGPS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Assisted_GPS
our device is on the list... but i dont think i have a server setting... and my gps (tomtom) doesnt have to have a connection to the internet.
strange but fun to find out how it works...
TomTom does not use the AGPS function. Enable quickgps to do this before you use your navigation software (TomTom). It can automatically download the satellite info for you which is good for about 2 days. You can update through your cellular connection if you have data on your plan or through activesync. TomTom 7 will work without using the AGPS function but it will take longer to find a fix on the satellites. TomTom 7 is required if you want to use the internal gps receiver with TomTom. TomTom 6 does not work without some hacks.
I think that Google Maps do use the AGPS function. It is much faster to find the coordinates than fx TomTom and other GPS software i've tried, so i think that a program needs to be developed with use of the agps function if it uses it..
kaloer said:
I think that Google Maps do use the AGPS function. It is much faster to find the coordinates than fx TomTom and other GPS software i've tried, so i think that a program needs to be developed with use of the agps function if it uses it..
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the fast "fix" that you see with google maps it's not a gps fix... it shows you the cell radio where you are hooked
poldo964 said:
the fast "fix" that you see with google maps it's not a gps fix... it shows you the cell radio where you are hooked
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Ohh, okay. That's the reason for the very big radius.. But pretty smart after all..
I know hp612 has the AGPS function, but don't know how to turn it on.
Is there anybody who know how to do? plz advise.
Thanks.
wongwon said:
I know hp612 has the AGPS function, but don't know how to turn it on.
Is there anybody who know how to do? plz advise.
Thanks.
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Hi,
Look here ....
Dirk
I don't think that HP612 really has the AGPS function.
HP612 can't read cell id and get Google Map's "My Laoction/Position" info without GPS-on. Rilgsm.dll and/or Radio FW/hardware should have some problem.
wongwon said:
I know hp612 has the AGPS function, but don't know how to turn it on.
Is there anybody who know how to do? plz advise.
Thanks.
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Have a look at HP's document
http://www13.itrc.hp.com/service/cki/docDisplay.do?docId=emr_na-c01459007-2&docLocale=en&admit=109447627+1241303882132+28353475
This doesn't really clear things up for me: "However, it has a default GPS Utility called Assisted GPS"
The 900 series come with a GPS QK Position application, which downloads Ephemeris data. This looks more like assistance that could work:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...Id=110&prodSeriesId=3551665&prodTypeId=215348
Anyone have good experience with this app on the 600 with the Yevg001-ROM ?
i heard agps turn on automatically when you have gprs connection
keyx said:
i heard agps turn on automatically when you have gprs connection
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I have never seen any data activity on WAN connections when the GPS is used. There are many forms of Assisted GPS and maybe HP mentions this feature just because the Qualcomm chipset has this ability.
The strange thing is that my GPS fixes faster since I've flashed back to the original ROM after briefly trying Yevg001 ROM (the one with TouchFlo). Could it just be the weather? Or does some driver (helper) became active again.
There are too many variables. It would be nice if HP just published some info on their implementation.
may be a dumb question.
Is blackstone has a GPS (not AGPS) ?
ie. without a sim phone card , it can still receive GPS signal for mapking ?
It's a real GPS, works great with, for example TomTom.
yes gps works without a sim card. agps is also available through registry settings but requires a Data connection.
lots of people seem to think that aGPS is a cheap substitute for normal gps
but thats not the case aGPS is normal gps plus the ability to get locations
from cellphone towers if one can't get a clear gps signal like if one enters
a long tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Phone
aGPS is often mistaken as location-based service (LBS) or server-based GPS. mainly because the first generation of "Quick GPS" is also known as AGPS, which essentially is to download the satellite orbit path in advance instead of get it directly from the satellites at the point the receiver is trying to get a fix. The download process (receiving it from satellite) can be a lengthy process (30sec or longer depending on the reception level) thus the purpose of QGPS/AGPS.
I wrote a short article on the myth about AGPS, you can take a read if you are interested
Does anyone know what GPS chip is actually in the Touch HD? Is it a Sirf III? Is Static Navigation "ON" by default?
gregwee said:
Is it a Sirf III?
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No, it isn't. GPS is integrated in the MSM chip, I think its called something like Qualcomm MSM7201A gpsOne.
zenkinz said:
aGPS is often mistaken as location-based service (LBS) or server-based GPS. mainly because the first generation of "Quick GPS" is also known as AGPS, which essentially is to download the satellite orbit path in advance instead of get it directly from the satellites at the point the receiver is trying to get a fix. The download process (receiving it from satellite) can be a lengthy process (30sec or longer depending on the reception level) thus the purpose of QGPS/AGPS.
I wrote a short article on the myth about AGPS, you can take a read if you are interested
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thanks very much ..
thanks all for explaining ...