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Mugen 2600aMh battery for wizard

Anybody fancy having this big boy battery strapped to the back of their wizard!
Could make the wizard a lethal weapon! :lol:
http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=332
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That's silly. It would fit in the fashionable case that is provided for you.
And since the Wizard is strapped to my belt on my right side, I might start walking all crooked-like.

dang that's pretty ugly - and I bet that edge will get snagged on everything. Shame, larger battery would be nice, though I haven't had any need for one so far, if I were to let BT and WiFi on a lot, I bet I would %)

good joke! :lol:

I will prefer to use universal instead if this battery caming with original package.
no one wull buy it rite ?

I was tempted, but I did say in whatever thread that was in that I'd rather like to see the pictures first. I knew they said it was going to need a new cover, but this is a whole new rooftop
I'd much sooner go with the Adapt Charge & Go. Takes a single AA battery. Won't do much for extending the battery for long periods, but if you just need a quick fix if your battery is otherwise near-dead and you're not near any wall socket or computer to charge with, it'd be ideal.
There's a review at the Dutch PocketInfo site. I can translate if needed, but I think the pictures roughly say it all; there's no real benchmarks to speak of (I blame the battery analyzing apps for this - none will graph recharging. boohiss.)
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/5329
Next to a wizard it's still bulky, but at least it won't be permanently attached
Another alternative is to get a 2nd regular battery. Charge one, replace with the other, keep the charged one in whatever carrying case you've got, and if you really need it - turn off device and replace battery. It's a hassle either way

zeboxx,
Please keep an eye on that. Never seen it before and I was hoping it would come out (wouldn't a 9v version be better?).
Can't tell what the price or availability is but definately want one!
thanks for the link!

McHale.. there's another variant out there that uses 4 AA batteries - gets a bit bulky, though. It is indeed curious that there doesn't seem to be a 9V battery type

Looks ugly...I wonder why they had to make it so big. There are other 2000 and + out looking thiner.

heh.. gluing two of the original batteries together is thinner Problem is you can't do that :x Stupid 'smart' batteries

Just ordered a 2200mah battery from below link. looks thinner and only 25 pounds. (money not weight !) will let you know how I get on.
I luv it when you order new stuff
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=2971

meschle - if you can post a picture after hooking it up, that'd be grand

yeh zeboxx I can do that should be interesting. if too thick prob send it back seller said I can.
Though may still keep as backup on long journey I will see.

meschle said:
Just ordered a 2200mah battery from below link. looks thinner and only 25 pounds. (money not weight !) will let you know how I get on.
I luv it when you order new stuff
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=2971
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Got any pics for us yet? Cheers

This is the gpsforless 2200mah battery. It still fits in the belt case supplied by Tmobile uk although it then gets a little loose for when it has the supplied battery. I like it. The cover fits nicely but this is not a small battery.

I'd be curious to see some test results. That 2200 one doesn't look that much smaller than the 2600 one. I'm all over this though, I don't mind it being that thick as long as I get a week battery life with normal usage. THAT WOULD BE SWEET!!!

Sorry for the delay in pics guys but also wanted to test battery and try with different cases. The battery is bigger than expected but not as big or thick as mugen 2600 mah. the cover seems a bit larger than it should be - it may be possible to trim it but have not tried.
Found that with battery in and leather case on - no battery cover, things not so bad and only slight bulge at back.With cover supplied I wouldn't show my phone in public lol
here are my battery tests
Wizard battery
Standard 1250 Mah
25% loss 2.5 hours browsing
60% loss 5 hours browsing plus some game, radio, omap 240 15 mins
Extended 2200 Mah (75% more Mah)
20% loss over 2.5 hours browsing
40% loss 5 hours browsing plus some game, music, omap 240 15 mins
44% loss 7 hours browsing reconfig ppc
46% loss 8 hours browsing reconfig ppc.
60% loss 9.5 hours browsing (nearly double standard battery)!
80% loss 11.5 hours browsing
90% loss 12 hours browsing
All browsing was continuous and on gprs.
Fairly impressive I thought for a 25 pounds sterling battery!
here are the pics - taken with my spv c500 so apologize for quality
The case btw is a modified krussell case meant for magician but works for wizard.
In short then decided to keep the battery - I wish it was slimmer but no other available extended batteries in the uk I can find and at the price can't comlain

Thank god my small batery has it's own nuclear plant inside. No need for such bulky experiments

So is it still that size or is there now a new boy or girl phone?

Not only is the Wizard my first PDA phone but I made the switch from a Motorola Razr. I'm still trying to get over having a brick of a mobile phone and the thought of another brick riding piggyback on that just makes me downright nauseous.

New Mugen Power battery for Kaiser

You can find here
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
The new battery set for Kaiser...
Cheers.

jcespi2005 said:
You can find here
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
The new battery set for Kaiser...
Cheers.
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Nice find, i would really like to see how it compares to the standard battery....

Looks like they are not available until next week. They are only taking pre-orders now. But 3000mAh...WOW! I have heard that Mugen batteries are some of the best you can buy too.

does anybody have any pictures of it? The site did not incllude any.

if it's 3000mAh and comes with a new battery door, you can bet it's as ugly as sin. I understand the importance of a bigger battery, in fact I have the Seido one in my Tilt right now, but why would you want to turn a phone that's already pushing maximum size/weight and add a nice big hump to it? crazy....

If it looks a bit like this:
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(found on eBay)
you can imagine that I won't buy such an item... like smittyofdhs said; it's already pushing the limits.
Plus, if it is the same as the one in the picture, you are no longer able to use an external GPS-receiver (if you do).

Does it come with Nitrous Oxide (NOS)?

Someone has to be a guinea pig
I ordered one yesterday. I need the battery life since I'm not always able to recharge when needed. So, if it's fat and ugly, I'll still have my OEM and swap them as needed.

MetalRush said:
.....Plus, if it is the same as the one in the picture, you are no longer able to use an external GPS-receiver (if you do).
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I have yet to find an external GPS receiver that would work with the Kaiser. If you find one please let me know.
edit: if it's a 300mah battery it's probably be this one
http://4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2277 It has a thicker door than the 2800mah battery.

Can anyone enlighten us on these extended batteries, I myself feel that I could do with one, looking at the 2700 mAH one available here http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11658 costs about 16 pounds including delivery in the UK. However the only thing stopping me at the moment is the fear of damaging my Kasier using one of these Big Fat ones (high capacity batteries). Since they are a UK based company I would imagine shipping is from the UK unlike the ebay sellers who send you the battery from Hongkong, which is not too bad if you dont mind waiting 7-9 working days. The ones i found on ebay seem to be 3000 mAH and for about 14 pounds including delivery. Wonder how long they take to attain a full charge?
Anyone with any take here!

Think the most irritating thing with the Kaiser is that you can not use the keyboard on a flat table or so, because it is not stable anymore

stryker1355 said:
Can anyone enlighten us on these extended batteries, I myself feel that I could do with one, looking at the 2700 mAH one available here http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11658 costs about 16 pounds including delivery in the UK. However the only thing stopping me at the moment is the fear of damaging my Kasier using one of these Big Fat ones (high capacity batteries). Since they are a UK based company I would imagine shipping is from the UK unlike the ebay sellers who send you the battery from Hongkong, which is not too bad if you dont mind waiting 7-9 working days. The ones i found on ebay seem to be 3000 mAH and for about 14 pounds including delivery. Wonder how long they take to attain a full charge?
Anyone with any take here!
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I have been using a 2700 mAh battery from gpdforless (which has a .uk address) for the last three weeks. Kaiser works fine with it, no noticeable problems. It keeps the charge for complete day, with push Microsoft email and bluetooth constantly on.

How much does this "Extended Size Hi–Power 3000mAh Battery for HTC TyTN II (Kaiser) PPCs." cost in USD from the mugen online store?? i goto check out and i get these numbers..
HLI–P4550XL 57.55 / 83.45¹ 57.55 83.45
But i have no idea if thats euros but they are in the netherlands so i guess it would be euros if it is.... it makes the battery about $80usd or $116usd the shipping right now is free but thats still a bit high.
edit: oops found the answer "All prices are in Euro / US Dollar ex VAT*" small print

3000Mah Extended Battery for GSM Touch PRO

Here's a battery that will more than double the capacity of the battery and almost double the size of the phone!
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
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Extended-size super high-capacity 3000mAh Battery for HTC Touch Pro T7272 (Raphael) PPCs.
Li-ion, 3.7V, 3000mAh
Colour: Black
Original Battery Model : DIAM171
(Made by Mugen Power)
PLEASE NOTE THIS BATTERY INCREASES THE THICKNESS OF THE DEVICE.
REPLACEMENT BATTERY COVER IS INCLUDED.
FREE WORLDWIDE SHIPPING
Product is in stock $99.95
Price before VAT, plus delivery
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That will make a nice self-defense weapon now! It is also good for workouts.

Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.

alfredob1 said:
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
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That's what I said... man its like carrying a brick in your pocket!!!!!

Hahaha. Now they need to make a backpack carrying case for the phone + extended battery.

hahah yeah this would be one hell of a thing to put in your pocket.

alfredob1 said:
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
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It doubles as battery for an Integra

3000mah docking station/cradle?
Anyone know if fuze/touch pro, with the 3000mah battery, will fit into 1350-1500 mah docking stations/cradles? If not, anyone know where to find a cradle for this beast.

Nice try! Plus a huge antenna on top that sure will bring back some good old memory...

Maybe a nice little leather bag like the 3-watt bag cell phones I started out with! :-D

ray_f said:
Nice try! Plus a huge antenna on top that sure will bring back some good old memory...
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LoL
anyway,
what is the reasonable price for OEM battery (that 1350mAh).
I am looking for replacement battery since tp drains battery fastly if I use it for GPS.
I have two choices here:
a. Replacement/OEM battery
b. Pocket charger (basically it saves electricity, 1600mAh or so) it cost around USD 16
I live in Asia btw, and TP battery is a rare item. Once I found a htC P4700 battery, it is for sale for around USD 34.5

For that size it should come with a heat sink and fan!

What I want to know is how good the camera and flash work with that extra size. I hope it doesn't interfere too much...

Xue v.2 said:
LoL
anyway,
what is the reasonable price for OEM battery (that 1350mAh).
I am looking for replacement battery since tp drains battery fastly if I use it for GPS.
I have two choices here:
a. Replacement/OEM battery
b. Pocket charger (basically it saves electricity, 1600mAh or so) it cost around USD 16
I live in Asia btw, and TP battery is a rare item. Once I found a htC P4700 battery, it is for sale for around USD 34.5
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i would try and buy one off of ebay usa. with extra shipping cost it will probally still be cheaper than $34

Mugen power battery

Hello all;
I purchased Mugen battery 1800mAh, received it a week ago. After doing the initial charge-discharge for three cycles. Today is the third day I am runing the phone without charging, moderate use, bluetooth, music, messaging, downloading stuff and regular calling, I have 41% life left. I have BatteryTime, Advanced Task killer and Startup auditor.
I would highly recommend for you all who have problems to purchase this battery it is a great performer.
I am in no way affiliated with Mugen, just a satisfied customer

I´ve the same battery and i can confirm that it´s definitely a huge improvement. Almost 3 days in a row without charging.

miguelsantos1979 said:
I´ve the same battery and i can confirm that it´s definitely a huge improvement. Almost 3 days in a row without charging.
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Anybody know where to get these in the UK?
Bloke

I got mine off da bay, I think they ship international

If the sony updates dont improve battery life then i might purchase one.

I bought one also, and I'm very happy with it, because the original one last only 7h for me.

ey guys, could you say a comparison of times between the original one and this huge?
P.D: Could you tell me the ebay seller, i cant find it anywhere

Just google for the battery. You´ll find the online store.

maherb said:
Hello all;
I purchased Mugen battery 1800mAh, received it a week ago. After doing the initial charge-discharge for three cycles. Today is the third day I am runing the phone without charging, moderate use, bluetooth, music, messaging, downloading stuff and regular calling, I have 41% life left. I have BatteryTime, Advanced Task killer and Startup auditor.
I would highly recommend for you all who have problems to purchase this battery it is a great performer.
I am in no way affiliated with Mugen, just a satisfied customer
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Are you using Google Sync with 3G all time enabled?

lqbweb said:
ey guys, could you say a comparison of times between the original one and this huge?
P.D: Could you tell me the ebay seller, i cant find it anywhere
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Same with me, I cant find them on eaby either......
Bloke

What is the mAh rating of the standard battery and how does the physical size and weight compare to the standard one?

I believe standard 1500 ma and Mugen 1800 ma.
I read a test that slated the allegedley higher power batteries as ina test they actually perfomed worse electrically than standard. Can't remember where though - Google is your friend (as long as you don't have an Android phone and want to use bluetooth voice dialling!)

just put my order in today..10-15 days till it arrives. hope its worth the 33$

Bangarillo said:
just put my order in today..10-15 days till it arrives. hope its worth the 33$
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Can you let us know where you purchased it from?
Thanks
Bloke

mugen-power-batteries .com

Hi, I have this battery, too. I followed all the instructions that came with the battery (4-5 full cycles, 12 hour each charge, NEVER leave to 0% charge) but the life of the battery is worst than the stock Sony Ericsson one...

Hi, I have this battery, too. I followed all the instructions that came with the battery (4-5 full cycles, 12 hour each charge, NEVER leave to 0% charge) but the life of the battery is worst than the stock Sony Ericsson one...
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That´s what I thought for myself. The manufacturer provide the best battery solution as possible with their devices. So it´s not worth to buy an other battery.

This is a comparison between the stock battery and the Mugen battery. The Mugen battery is floating a bit more so I added 2 different graphs.
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Not to disappoint anyone here, but these Mugen guys are sort of known to overrate battery capacity a bit. Just do a google search and lots of alarming things will pop. I would generlly recommend against using anything but OEM batteries

ondoteam said:
Are you using Google Sync with 3G all time enabled?
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Hi
Yes I am using Google sync. My 3G is controlled by JuiceDefender that sets it on and off according to a preset schedule.
Thanks
Maher

[Q] Desire Z EXTRA LONG LIFE battery 1500mAh

Would anyone recommend using this battery rather than the one it comes originally with the device?:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DESIRE-Vision-High-Capacity-Battery/dp/B004ARTND4/ref=pd_cp_ce_1_img

buzmay said:
Would anyone recommend using this battery rather than the one it comes originally with the device?:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DESIRE-Vision-High-Capacity-Battery/dp/B004ARTND4/ref=pd_cp_ce_1_img
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hmm seems legit, alot of people are using those red hong kong batteries and reporting good...its worth a shot, i believe you would have a higher battery life with this.

Don't believe the hype: http://batteryboss.org/
Most batteries that are only a little more than the default are generally useless. The only useful ones are the huge, significant jumps like from 1300mah to 2500mah or something. A jump of 200mah will make nearly no difference due to inefficiency.

It's also rather common for the capacity claims of those third-party batteries to be somewhat - erm - optomistic.

Exactly, simply look at good Branded AA rechargables and then compare to those oem ones, you will notice that all good branded state real capacity, while those cheaper ones state capacities that are not realisting, probably even not possible to produce, simply because if it was possible, then Energizer, Duracell, Sanyo would be offering them, but they are not.
So I bought second battery for my Z which is genuine, simply because I think those batteries have to be better, somehow verified by HTC, because it's in HTC interest for the battery to las as long as possible. So it's safe to assume you can't pack more power into the same package, anything advertized for 1500 has to be either 1300 or even less (cheaper components).
The only replacement battery that worked for me before was extended battery double in capacity and also double in size for Touch Pro2, it came with custom back cover. It really lasted londer that 2x smaller one.
I have invested in Micro USB Portable Emergency Charger Fit HTC Desire Z It holds 1500 MAh. Haven't tested it yet, just charged fully.
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Thanks for the info guys then I think I won't be buying this. Highly appreciated.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

schriss said:
Exactly, simply look at good Branded AA rechargables and then compare to those oem ones, you will notice that all good branded state real capacity, while those cheaper ones state capacities that are not realisting, probably even not possible to produce, simply because if it was possible, then Energizer, Duracell, Sanyo would be offering them, but they are not.
So I bought second battery for my Z which is genuine, simply because I think those batteries have to be better, somehow verified by HTC, because it's in HTC interest for the battery to las as long as possible. So it's safe to assume you can't pack more power into the same package, anything advertized for 1500 has to be either 1300 or even less (cheaper components).
The only replacement battery that worked for me before was extended battery double in capacity and also double in size for Touch Pro2, it came with custom back cover. It really lasted londer that 2x smaller one.
I have invested in Micro USB Portable Emergency Charger Fit HTC Desire Z It holds 1500 MAh. Haven't tested it yet, just charged fully.
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Underclock to lowest for screen off
Control sync times (can still use auto)
make sure you turn screen off when not using the phone
then you can easily get at least 24 hours use from it without the need for a bigger battery.

If I had no morals, I would source some cheap batteries from China that were clearly over-rated in terms of their capacity (or get some made up like that, with a higher capacity printed on than they really are), and then sell them on eBay with that over-inflated capacity.
I'm sure the number of batteries returned would be minimal, because it's so hard to really "prove" that the capacity is really less than that indicated.