Would anyone recommend using this battery rather than the one it comes originally with the device?:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DESIRE-Vision-High-Capacity-Battery/dp/B004ARTND4/ref=pd_cp_ce_1_img
buzmay said:
Would anyone recommend using this battery rather than the one it comes originally with the device?:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DESIRE-Vision-High-Capacity-Battery/dp/B004ARTND4/ref=pd_cp_ce_1_img
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hmm seems legit, alot of people are using those red hong kong batteries and reporting good...its worth a shot, i believe you would have a higher battery life with this.
Don't believe the hype: http://batteryboss.org/
Most batteries that are only a little more than the default are generally useless. The only useful ones are the huge, significant jumps like from 1300mah to 2500mah or something. A jump of 200mah will make nearly no difference due to inefficiency.
It's also rather common for the capacity claims of those third-party batteries to be somewhat - erm - optomistic.
Exactly, simply look at good Branded AA rechargables and then compare to those oem ones, you will notice that all good branded state real capacity, while those cheaper ones state capacities that are not realisting, probably even not possible to produce, simply because if it was possible, then Energizer, Duracell, Sanyo would be offering them, but they are not.
So I bought second battery for my Z which is genuine, simply because I think those batteries have to be better, somehow verified by HTC, because it's in HTC interest for the battery to las as long as possible. So it's safe to assume you can't pack more power into the same package, anything advertized for 1500 has to be either 1300 or even less (cheaper components).
The only replacement battery that worked for me before was extended battery double in capacity and also double in size for Touch Pro2, it came with custom back cover. It really lasted londer that 2x smaller one.
I have invested in Micro USB Portable Emergency Charger Fit HTC Desire Z It holds 1500 MAh. Haven't tested it yet, just charged fully.
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Thanks for the info guys then I think I won't be buying this. Highly appreciated.
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Exactly, simply look at good Branded AA rechargables and then compare to those oem ones, you will notice that all good branded state real capacity, while those cheaper ones state capacities that are not realisting, probably even not possible to produce, simply because if it was possible, then Energizer, Duracell, Sanyo would be offering them, but they are not.
So I bought second battery for my Z which is genuine, simply because I think those batteries have to be better, somehow verified by HTC, because it's in HTC interest for the battery to las as long as possible. So it's safe to assume you can't pack more power into the same package, anything advertized for 1500 has to be either 1300 or even less (cheaper components).
The only replacement battery that worked for me before was extended battery double in capacity and also double in size for Touch Pro2, it came with custom back cover. It really lasted londer that 2x smaller one.
I have invested in Micro USB Portable Emergency Charger Fit HTC Desire Z It holds 1500 MAh. Haven't tested it yet, just charged fully.
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Kindly give us a feedback on your findings about the portable charger.
Thanks.
Underclock to lowest for screen off
Control sync times (can still use auto)
make sure you turn screen off when not using the phone
then you can easily get at least 24 hours use from it without the need for a bigger battery.
If I had no morals, I would source some cheap batteries from China that were clearly over-rated in terms of their capacity (or get some made up like that, with a higher capacity printed on than they really are), and then sell them on eBay with that over-inflated capacity.
I'm sure the number of batteries returned would be minimal, because it's so hard to really "prove" that the capacity is really less than that indicated.
Related
You can find here
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
The new battery set for Kaiser...
Cheers.
jcespi2005 said:
You can find here
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
The new battery set for Kaiser...
Cheers.
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Nice find, i would really like to see how it compares to the standard battery....
Looks like they are not available until next week. They are only taking pre-orders now. But 3000mAh...WOW! I have heard that Mugen batteries are some of the best you can buy too.
does anybody have any pictures of it? The site did not incllude any.
if it's 3000mAh and comes with a new battery door, you can bet it's as ugly as sin. I understand the importance of a bigger battery, in fact I have the Seido one in my Tilt right now, but why would you want to turn a phone that's already pushing maximum size/weight and add a nice big hump to it? crazy....
If it looks a bit like this:
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you can imagine that I won't buy such an item... like smittyofdhs said; it's already pushing the limits.
Plus, if it is the same as the one in the picture, you are no longer able to use an external GPS-receiver (if you do).
Does it come with Nitrous Oxide (NOS)?
Someone has to be a guinea pig
I ordered one yesterday. I need the battery life since I'm not always able to recharge when needed. So, if it's fat and ugly, I'll still have my OEM and swap them as needed.
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.....Plus, if it is the same as the one in the picture, you are no longer able to use an external GPS-receiver (if you do).
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I have yet to find an external GPS receiver that would work with the Kaiser. If you find one please let me know.
edit: if it's a 300mah battery it's probably be this one
http://4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2277 It has a thicker door than the 2800mah battery.
Can anyone enlighten us on these extended batteries, I myself feel that I could do with one, looking at the 2700 mAH one available here http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11658 costs about 16 pounds including delivery in the UK. However the only thing stopping me at the moment is the fear of damaging my Kasier using one of these Big Fat ones (high capacity batteries). Since they are a UK based company I would imagine shipping is from the UK unlike the ebay sellers who send you the battery from Hongkong, which is not too bad if you dont mind waiting 7-9 working days. The ones i found on ebay seem to be 3000 mAH and for about 14 pounds including delivery. Wonder how long they take to attain a full charge?
Anyone with any take here!
Think the most irritating thing with the Kaiser is that you can not use the keyboard on a flat table or so, because it is not stable anymore
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Can anyone enlighten us on these extended batteries, I myself feel that I could do with one, looking at the 2700 mAH one available here http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11658 costs about 16 pounds including delivery in the UK. However the only thing stopping me at the moment is the fear of damaging my Kasier using one of these Big Fat ones (high capacity batteries). Since they are a UK based company I would imagine shipping is from the UK unlike the ebay sellers who send you the battery from Hongkong, which is not too bad if you dont mind waiting 7-9 working days. The ones i found on ebay seem to be 3000 mAH and for about 14 pounds including delivery. Wonder how long they take to attain a full charge?
Anyone with any take here!
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I have been using a 2700 mAh battery from gpdforless (which has a .uk address) for the last three weeks. Kaiser works fine with it, no noticeable problems. It keeps the charge for complete day, with push Microsoft email and bluetooth constantly on.
How much does this "Extended Size Hi–Power 3000mAh Battery for HTC TyTN II (Kaiser) PPCs." cost in USD from the mugen online store?? i goto check out and i get these numbers..
HLI–P4550XL 57.55 / 83.45¹ 57.55 83.45
But i have no idea if thats euros but they are in the netherlands so i guess it would be euros if it is.... it makes the battery about $80usd or $116usd the shipping right now is free but thats still a bit high.
edit: oops found the answer "All prices are in Euro / US Dollar ex VAT*" small print
Here's a battery that will more than double the capacity of the battery and almost double the size of the phone!
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
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Extended-size super high-capacity 3000mAh Battery for HTC Touch Pro T7272 (Raphael) PPCs.
Li-ion, 3.7V, 3000mAh
Colour: Black
Original Battery Model : DIAM171
(Made by Mugen Power)
PLEASE NOTE THIS BATTERY INCREASES THE THICKNESS OF THE DEVICE.
REPLACEMENT BATTERY COVER IS INCLUDED.
FREE WORLDWIDE SHIPPING
Product is in stock $99.95
Price before VAT, plus delivery
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That will make a nice self-defense weapon now! It is also good for workouts.
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
alfredob1 said:
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
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That's what I said... man its like carrying a brick in your pocket!!!!!
Hahaha. Now they need to make a backpack carrying case for the phone + extended battery.
hahah yeah this would be one hell of a thing to put in your pocket.
alfredob1 said:
Ha, I saw Mugen and was thinking Honda parts. But that is one big battery.
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It doubles as battery for an Integra
3000mah docking station/cradle?
Anyone know if fuze/touch pro, with the 3000mah battery, will fit into 1350-1500 mah docking stations/cradles? If not, anyone know where to find a cradle for this beast.
Nice try! Plus a huge antenna on top that sure will bring back some good old memory...
Maybe a nice little leather bag like the 3-watt bag cell phones I started out with! :-D
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Nice try! Plus a huge antenna on top that sure will bring back some good old memory...
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LoL
anyway,
what is the reasonable price for OEM battery (that 1350mAh).
I am looking for replacement battery since tp drains battery fastly if I use it for GPS.
I have two choices here:
a. Replacement/OEM battery
b. Pocket charger (basically it saves electricity, 1600mAh or so) it cost around USD 16
I live in Asia btw, and TP battery is a rare item. Once I found a htC P4700 battery, it is for sale for around USD 34.5
For that size it should come with a heat sink and fan!
What I want to know is how good the camera and flash work with that extra size. I hope it doesn't interfere too much...
Xue v.2 said:
LoL
anyway,
what is the reasonable price for OEM battery (that 1350mAh).
I am looking for replacement battery since tp drains battery fastly if I use it for GPS.
I have two choices here:
a. Replacement/OEM battery
b. Pocket charger (basically it saves electricity, 1600mAh or so) it cost around USD 16
I live in Asia btw, and TP battery is a rare item. Once I found a htC P4700 battery, it is for sale for around USD 34.5
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i would try and buy one off of ebay usa. with extra shipping cost it will probally still be cheaper than $34
Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...
Battery performance actually did advance with processing technology over the years. It's not just sheer capacity that tripled, but efficiency became better. A top-end phone of today easily has 10 times more performance than a smartphone of 4 years back with so much bigger and higher-res screen not to mention extra antennas and extra ongoing processes, yet when HW/SW is properly balanced, it can last the same full day. Samsung and HTC are doing it right lately while Apple is particularly power-efficient, to expect anything more there has to be a battery tech revolution.
Much bigger manufacturer BS is storage capacity. A 64GB module hardly costs more than $20 for them and all gadgets should start with that going up to 256GB, but at least HTC is skipping the 16GB variant and you get a healthy space for starting price. You see they can't really put significantly bigger battery in a phone where they could put more storage in it, they just don't want to.
Are you specifically moaning about the HTC one or just phones in general? The one, in reviews, has been shown to perform admirably.
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Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
No.
mass.w said:
Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
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hey - in all seriousness, i found what you need.
phone
it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
you may believe I need your response more?
mass.w said:
it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
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so why are you posting it in the HTC ONE FORUM
a phone that is not released, not thoroughly reviewed and YOU DO NOT OWN
by mistake, sorry.
however your replies were not even funny.
i suppose sure htc is not a leader regarding battery-exeperience
Hi Guys,
Did anyone come across this battery? http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Quality-...850?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee3147afa
its a 3500mah battery.... how would you know if it is not safe to use?
i think this is a fake...
Do not shipping to germany is a indicator that they have big Problem with the german law... think, do not buy
For $10, it will attract some curious people. We will just have to wait and see the review and feedbacks. But when demand goes up, price goes up.
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Then the phone will light on fire as a new and improved feature of the battery ahaha.
who's gonna be the first to try quick charging with that battery?
OK, I've said it in the past... I'll say it again...
Don't you all think that if LG could, they would have implemented a 3,500 mah battery instead of a 3000 mah battery? Especially seeing that it's a minimal cost... If it were truly 3,500 and could withstand the 300-500 recharges as its current battery can hold, then I truly think they would have done it. EVERY review simply states "it's big, but not the biggest in the new flagships" or something of the sort... LG could have had it says "bigger than any other flagship out there!"
This is a total fake. If it's real, that charge won't last more than 20-30 charges, tops, at 3,500 mah.
zkyevolved said:
OK, I've said it in the past... I'll say it again...
Don't you all think that if LG could, they would have implemented a 3,500 mah battery instead of a 3000 mah battery? Especially seeing that it's a minimal cost... If it were truly 3,500 and could withstand the 300-500 recharges as its current battery can hold, then I truly think they would have done it. EVERY review simply states "it's big, but not the biggest in the new flagships" or something of the sort... LG could have had it says "bigger than any other flagship out there!"
This is a total fake. If it's real, that charge won't last more than 20-30 charges, tops, at 3,500 mah.
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Actually I have seen manufacturers shy away from bigger batteries to save a few $ (even if it isn't that much). But yeah, this think is probably 2900-3050 mah. I have had multiple Chinese knock offs and the usually work but at best they match the original battery unless they are massive (like my G3 6500 Mah). Only way to know is to try it out and if it sucks get your money back and let everyone know. You'll only be out a few bucks and you might have a battery just as good as the original. My 2 cents
Battery life is fine on this phone...
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They are also on Amazon.
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Actually I have seen manufacturers shy away from bigger batteries to save a few $ (even if it isn't that much). But yeah, this think is probably 2900-3050 mah. I have had multiple Chinese knock offs and the usually work but at best they match the original battery unless they are massive (like my G3 6500 Mah). Only way to know is to try it out and if it sucks get your money back and let everyone know. You'll only be out a few bucks and you might have a battery just as good as the original. My 2 cents
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I have had multiple Chinese batteries, and while they last a while for the first few charges, after that, it's all downhill. They aren't as reliable - at least not these no-name brands. I'd stick with Mugen, they make very good batteries! But hey, at least at that price you can get a battery that you can keep in your bag or something as an emergency. I didn't say it wouldn't work! I just said that the capacity of 3500 probably isn't true.
Hi all hardware mod experts/hobbyists.
As we are all moderate to heavy phone users, we need a phone with a good battery life that won't die before evening. However, everyone seems stick to a hone that could work with screen on less than 6hrs, even 3000mah won't help much.
Now, I want to add 1 or 2 more batteries connect in parallel to my current stock batteries. I hope it would multiply the juice, however I would concern about Charging Voltage, safety charging current from Charging IC inside the phone, and Charging Duration. Of cause, adding extra battery will make your phone Fat, ugly and heavy but we have better battery life.
battery type : norminal voltage of Li-ion 3.6v or 3.7v, Li-Po 3.8v and some other battery even mention 3.9v or 4.0v .
Full charge :4.2v.
Charge voltage 4.2v
Current : depend on the phone
duration = capacity / current
Please upload your modified phone by add extra batteries, with your usage experience.
i found this for iPod Touch 6th Gen. He modified by soldered another battery on the back for tripple battery life
I think it is better to use a power bank, safe, easy,maybe not convenient
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I think it is better to use a power bank, safe, easy,maybe not convenient
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Yep.... It is better to use power bank.... To embed 2 or more batteries may give better time but looks too odd...
???
I'd recommend to if you're gonna add another battery do it with another of the same type because phone Power Manangment IC could have troubles trying to read two or three, if wanted, different batteries, in some cases they have different data read pins(the ones that are not positive and negatives)
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If connecting batteries, they should be same voltage and amperage. To get longer run times at the same voltage you connect both positive together, and both negatives together. If they are the same, lets say 3000 mah, then you while get 6000mah. Approximately twice the run time. If one battery is 1500mah, and the other is 3000mah, then you will only get 3000mah when they are connected. They will both only charge to 1500mah, or the lower amperage. If you connect the batteries from one positive to the other negative, on a 3.2 volt battery, then you will double the voltage to 6.4volts and blow out circuits on your device. Personally, I carry solar charged battery packs. I also have an AGM battery for a lawnmower that is 300amps, which will charge my phone for weeks. Any questions feel free to ask. I was a yacht mechanic, so I had to install and fix DC and AC portable power systems.
You better try some software optimization to get a better battery life,like a custom ROM & kernel, root your device,a good app for battery & performance boost which personaly use is called greenfy and it realy improves the battery life by hibernating apps,anyway 3000 mAh should be enough for most phones and better you lose your warranty rooting it,not trying to burn your phone's circuits with other batteries
Hi ! got 5000mah battery installed on my OP3, but it still says OP_3000mah.. How to modify this? Does this need to be rooted? Thanks!
Hi,
I recently did this to a Samsung Galaxy A3 2016 that I had multiple units of. One had a good screen and a battery, but the board was dead. The other one had a dead LCD and no battery. I turned them into one.
All you need to do is make sure that the voltage of the batteries is about the same, and then just solder the + of the first one to the + of the second one and the - of the first one to the - of the second one. Make sure to solder it to the pins beyond the battery controller, so that the second battery doesn't overheat or expand. Then just insert/solder the whole thing into the phone. DON'T use cells without a charge controller.
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This is what I did with the housing afterwards. I screwed 2 separate frames together, which allowed me to house the second battery with no problem. No glue was used and this is very solid.
The pictures are old, I later put a camera lens on it and a new back. I also got a separate NFC antenna, which I stuck on the top battery since the original antenna is on the bottom one.
I hope this helps.
And as for the battery capacity being displayed in the phone, I'm sure most applications such as AccuBattery or Ampere just display the capacity according to the model of the phone. I know that phones CAN measure the voltage of the battery (or batteries in our case), but I'm not entirely sure about phones being able to measure the capacity of the battery on their own. I know my modded phone displays 2300mAh despite the actual capacity being around 4400mAh after the mod.