Help....seems that my Magician is dead....making a long phone call (1 h) after call end, display switch off and Notification led become fix Blue (bluethoot was off) and then i try to hard reset. Led switch off and no results. I try then to put the power supply cable and the led become RED.... !!! (neve seen red.....) pda is not switching on anymore...any details on the reason of this RED light ???....please.....
thanks in advance
Red LED means the battery isn't connected or the device can't charge.
Try taking the battery out for a few hours and try to switch the device on again.
My brother in-law had the red LED issue too, we solved it by 'kick starting' the battery with two wires and a 9v battery. (At your own risk of course).
Good luck!
helterskelter said:
Red LED means the battery isn't connected or the device can't charge.
Try taking the battery out for a few hours and try to switch the device on again.
My brother in-law had the red LED issue too, we solved it by 'kick starting' the battery with two wires and a 9v battery. (At your own risk of course).
Good luck!
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Red Led doesn't mean that the battery is not connect with the device. It simply means the cover is not properly intact. Try taking out the battery off the device, put it back in the slot. Place the cover carefully and completely. And then connect the device to AC power supply. It would definitely come *alive*
still dead....grrrr
so cover is ok...it seems to be properly fixed, even the smal swithch that create some unwanted crash few months ago is now working properly...
i made a 1 h long phone call with battery and charger (usb from pc) and after line felt down, bluetooth led blue on (was off) and screen with phone but no changement by touching it. so switch off by power off and ...dead...now without battery but with charger (or usb from PC) RED led on. With batttery AND charger RED on, and with battery all dead. i cannot reset anyhow with or without battery /charger....need it...sh*t.....(ops...sorry)
thanks a lot anyway....
omino_ribelle said:
so cover is ok...it seems to be properly fixed, even the smal swithch that create some unwanted crash few months ago is now working properly...
i made a 1 h long phone call with battery and charger (usb from pc) and after line felt down, bluetooth led blue on (was off) and screen with phone but no changement by touching it. so switch off by power off and ...dead...now without battery but with charger (or usb from PC) RED led on. With batttery AND charger RED on, and with battery all dead. i cannot reset anyhow with or without battery /charger....need it...sh*t.....(ops...sorry)
thanks a lot anyway....
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what I will suggest is, you should get a new battery instead!!
Got the same problem now!
Both my wife and me got a Magician. Hers is dead now - same symptoms.
First guess was dead battery as well. But I exchanged it with mine fully loaded. No difference!
Usually when you plug the powercord into the device orange flashes up and device boots. Here nothing happens.
I'll have some electrician have a look at both. Maybe he can find the fault by comparison. But I don't expect a lucky outcome.
on back side of ur device when u remove the battery cover, u see a small black switch on the right side just next to the battery.
put the device on charge..with cover off---it will show red light contunuously on.
now manually press gently that black switch and see if ur device starts to charge.
if u see a yellow light any point of time doing this u may have to get this little switch repaired or do a temporary work urself by kepping it at place manually bu something.
try and tell
Now it works!
I think we all knew about that little switch. But thanks for your thoughts.
Anyway, hers is running again!
Two days ago I took it fully apart. No obvious fault noticeable. I left it the way it was now to prepare it for shipping. Today my wife asked me I should try it just once again. So I held the battery on the connector and plugged the USB cable and then: it booted!
But the internal battery doesn't seem to recover. It stays at 0% (1h "charging" since then).
I have to correct myself: Even the internal battery is charging (but it takes its time).
my magician is also dead and just the red LED is burning when i put it in the USB! Can anybody help me?
Still ned solution!
Can some one who was having the same problem help?
your device battery detector switch(little switch) is broken or logged-out of Main Board.
when it broken,the red LED is on at all.
it is the greatest weakness of magician...
z_qz54 said:
your device battery detector switch(little switch) is broken or logged-out of Main Board.
when it broken,the red LED is on at all.
it is the greatest weakness of magician...
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i am opening my jam case,bring the switch out and conecting sides of switch by a piece of wire.now a day there no problem with openning the battery case or.. but my WM cant recognize the battery level.it's alway 0%.and even the charger is connected no orange led i can see.but the charger charge the battery and battery works for more than one day!!!!!!!!
any one with the same problem!????
or any one having solution!
REGARDS
I'm gettingn red led light too when charging from wall outlet. Charging from usb is fine. a weird thing is when my battery came down to 50%, imate jam will shut down and won't successfully reboot. some people from this form mentioned it's an indicator that the battery is dying.
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Hi all,
Need som urgent help. The backcover of my device is not fitting well any longer. Guess I´ve bumped it to many times...
As a result (Iguess) I cant turn on or even charge my magician!
The only thing that is happening when I try to charge is that a red light is turned on. What does this mean?
Any solution of how to get it work again?
Is it possible to buy a new back-cover? Live in Sweden.
Thankful for some ideas!
Regards Emil
Most probably the notch on the battery cover that hits the microswitch lever has broken. You will find the microswitch on the lower-right corner of the device when facing down. Put something soft but strong enough (ie. foam) to keep the microswitch in the ON postion then mount the battery cover and temporarily fix it with tape. Be sure to keep your device plugged in via USB or charger in order not to totally discharge the backup battery. If the backup battery gets depleated, then it's like doing a hard reset.
You can buy parts from ebay but I've always bought from Brando and is very reliable dealer (shop.brando.com.hk). Delivery is quite fast too.
Hi Zerimar and thanks for your answer!
Unfortunately that didn´t do the trick. Still the same red light when trying to charge. And I can´t turn it on! I am pretty sure that the battery is flat out by now but even so I would think it would load and then after a while, I would be able to turn it on.
Am really frustrated abt this!
Any more ideas maybe?!?
Regards Emil
u'd better send it to service...
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u'd better send it to service...
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Well, that´s what I´m trying to get around... Thats why I´m hanging around here
If have have my device charged via USB or charger, the LED becomes as soon as I remove the battery cover. If I hit the microswitch lever then the LED turns green and start to boot up. If main battery is removed the LED stays red even though hitting the microswitch's lever.
It looks like it's not charging your main battery or your battery is already defective. If your device is over a year old and you're still using the same battery, then its time to change it. Bulges in a battery is a sign that it needs replacement.
Before sending your device for repair, why not look for someone you know who also has a Magician or equivalent device and quickly borrow his/her battery?
I had red LED when plugging into a main charger - and then the phone reset.
Red LED + loop booting-poweroff = dead battery
If the LED is RED when you charge your device for hours
If the device tries to boot sometimes, but powers off by itself some minutes after (it means, at least, that your device CAN boot! )
Your battery may be dead, I bought a new one for 10Euros on ebay...
Those batteries are perfectly compatible with HTC Prophet or HTC Beetles (Ipaq 6515) and maybe other devices... easy to find!
hi ive tried this:
"Problem 6: Device doesn't turn on, shows red LED only
In this case you can try:
Remove battery
Connect Hermes to charger or USB
Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
Red light should turn Amber
Soft Reset "
but i dnt get any lights coming on it was working last nyt and i took a call after the call finished i put it on standby and i went to use it 20 mins later and it wasnt turning on ive done a soft reset nothing happened, cant do a hard reset and the above witrh the charger or usb didnt work anybody know wat might hav happened i havent done any upgrades its a standard m3100 from orange
mrcopyright said:
hi ive tried this:
"Problem 6: Device doesn't turn on, shows red LED only
In this case you can try:
Remove battery
Connect Hermes to charger or USB
Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
Red light should turn Amber
Soft Reset "
but i dnt get any lights coming on it was working last nyt and i took a call after the call finished i put it on standby and i went to use it 20 mins later and it wasnt turning on ive done a soft reset nothing happened, cant do a hard reset and the above witrh the charger or usb didnt work anybody know wat might hav happened i havent done any upgrades its a standard m3100 from orange
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The problem appears to be caused when battery has more or less zero charge and perhaps fooling the charging circuitry into not recognising a battery is in place.
So - Force charge the battery without the Charger
If your problems remain you could always try the following to manually charge the battery a little (enough to let the Hermes know the battery is present when you put it back in) credit for this goes to triposte as the following is adapted from his suggestion:
Those with a basic knowledge of circuitry and things technical will fair better with this solution. The electrical contacts are all important, poor contacts will render this a worthless exercise.
I leave it to you to decide how you connect the wires. If you have no other means you could enlist the help of someone to hold the batteries and wires together while you connect to the Hermes battery!
1) Remove the battery from the phone!
2) Take 3 fresh AAA batteries in series (total 3 x 1.5V = 4.5V)
3) Connected the (+) wire to (+) on the battery
4) Connected the (-) wire to (-) on the battery
5) Hold this in place for 60 seconds.(possibly longer you are trying to charge it enough for charging circuitry to recognise there is a battery installed.)
6) Put the battery in your phone
7) Switch on phone and start charging (via USB)
Hopefully you will get the Amber charging light.
It may be worth repeating this a few times if not successful on the first try.
Warning - Do not connect a mains based transformer to the battery with an incorrect charge rate (mAh) and voltage (V). Any attempt to force charge using mains transformers could be extremely hazardous (explosive). Only a qualified/competent person should attempt to charge the battery in this way. Similarly, even if you are using batteries to do this task, do not leave them connected for more than a few minutes and stop immediately if either set of batteries become warm.
If the problem persists it is worth re-trying the solution you mentioned in your post as well as the above, before giving up.
The final resort - a new battery.
Mike
hi ive tried wat you hav asked but still not red light or amber ligh it shws no light at all i dnt understand how its gone from working 1 minute to completely not working in another
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hi ive tried wat you hav asked but still not red light or amber ligh it shws no light at all i dnt understand how its gone from working 1 minute to completely not working in another
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Yes, I know. It has been reported by quite a few and is actually quite a common problem (relatively speaking) across several phone brands and types.
The solutions you have tried have worked for some, not all. One or two found that it randomly (seemingly) just started charging again.
Your problem is whether to return the device as defective (hopefully under warranty) or whether to chance just getting a new battery. A battery will be fine if it is the usual battery problem, but if not then you'd have wasted money. If you have access to a retailer where you could access a battery just to test it that would be ideal.
Mike
I seem to remember having the same (similar?) problem on my old Universal - I think the solution in that case was to take the battery out for 10 minutes, then put it back in and then connect the phone up to the mains charger, rather than to the USB connection on your PC. The phone needed to be left off (not difficult with a completely flat battery ) and then seemed to charge....
Just a thought, not sure if it's been tried in this case?
Mark.
SITUATION
My Cingular 8500 does not power on. I have tried connecting it to wall charger as well as USB cable. The red or the orange light also does not come on. I tried all resets also but nothing worked.
BACKGROUND
a. My phone suddenly went off when I was opening the sliding keyboard. It had a decent (60%) charge at that time. After this it refuses to come on.
b. Only addition to the phone in the last 3 months has been a 2GB MicroSd Card. I inserted this card 4 days back and it was working fine.
c. The device is around 6 months old (but its unlocked, running WM6 and does not have any warranty)
d. I have been using the original wall charger to charge this phone regularly.
HELP REQUIRED
1. Is there a way to check if the problem is with the battery or with the phone? I do not have a spare battery.
2. Should any light come on if I connect the phone to charger without the battery inserted in it?
Thanks!
Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset
i have the same situation going on ... except with mine the screen faded out...it came back on once...and faded out again and will not turn back on.. when i put it on the charger it was a red light.. and will not turn on or soft reset, or enter bootloader or hard reset. .. in addition i tried the method above and nothing has worked.... any other suggestions...my phone was working fine when this happened out of nowhere... i dont have insurance either i bought the phone from someone off of craigslist..help is greatly appreciated
I am having the exact same problem, I had about 30% charge, then it just shut off, and now will not come back on under its own power or via USB nor charger. I tried connecting the charger then inserting the battery, but I do not get any indicator lights at all.
I was running WM6, and the most recent thing installed was the pointUI home screen replacement app.
has anyone experienced this before?
theconcon said:
SITUATION
My Cingular 8500 does not power on. I have tried connecting it to wall charger as well as USB cable. The red or the orange light also does not come on. I tried all resets also but nothing worked.
BACKGROUND
a. My phone suddenly went off when I was opening the sliding keyboard. It had a decent (60%) charge at that time. After this it refuses to come on.
b. Only addition to the phone in the last 3 months has been a 2GB MicroSd Card. I inserted this card 4 days back and it was working fine.
c. The device is around 6 months old (but its unlocked, running WM6 and does not have any warranty)
d. I have been using the original wall charger to charge this phone regularly.
HELP REQUIRED
1. Is there a way to check if the problem is with the battery or with the phone? I do not have a spare battery.
2. Should any light come on if I connect the phone to charger without the battery inserted in it?
Thanks!
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The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
Eamonn said:
I am having the exact same problem, I had about 30% charge, then it just shut off, and now will not come back on under its own power or via USB nor charger. I tried connecting the charger then inserting the battery, but I do not get any indicator lights at all.
I was running WM6, and the most recent thing installed was the pointUI home screen replacement app.
has anyone experienced this before?
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It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone. If not just go to ATT wireless store and see if they have one you can try and buy.
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The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone.
It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
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I really hope thats the problem because it's an easy solution, otherwise I fear it might be toast. thanks for your advise
No light when connected to charger
Thanks all for your responses!
markafreeman said:
Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset
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Dear Markafreeman, I tried the entire routine above but no help.
demo23019 said:
The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone. If not just go to ATT wireless store and see if they have one you can try and buy.
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Dear demo23019, I am not sure if I understand the above correctly. Should the Power LED light up "red" when battery is not inserted?
Once I connect the phone to charger (wall or USB), without the battery inserted in it, no red light comes on.
Does this mean that there is some problem with the phone hardware?
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Dear demo23019, I am not sure if I understand the above correctly. Should the Power LED light up "red" when battery is not inserted?
Once I connect the phone to charger (wall or USB), without the battery inserted in it, no red light comes on.
Does this mean that there is some problem with the phone hardware?
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Yea the power LED should light up red with out a battery plugged in. Check the usb plug on the bottom of your phone, make sure the middle piece inside is still there and didnt break off.
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Yea the power LED should light up red with out a battery plugged in. Check the usb plug on the bottom of your phone, make sure the middle piece inside is still there and didnt break off.
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Oops. My phone's power LED does not light up when I connect it to the charger without the battery inserted in it.
I have checked the following :
a. usb plug is fine (I checked it by plugging it into the Y cable for the USB charger. The LED on the Y cable lights up when I connect the USB plug into it
b. The middle piece inside the socket at the bottom of the phone is still there and shows no signs of damage.
c. The wall charger is also working fine.
Does this conclude that the phone has a hardware fault and this is not linked to the battery being dead?
Similar Problems
I just had the same problem. I had it happen to my Att Tilt and then to my cingular 8525. You should check out this thread and maybe post your info there too, it would be nice to see everybody post in the same thread so we can figure out what's going on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783005&posted=1#post1783005
yh
yh i got the same problem, i touched the power button so it wld go into standby, and it then refused to turn back on, even when i soft resetted it. Plugged it into the wall charger without the battery and there is no red power light coming on.
I've got a MDA Vario II and though im gettin a replacement, it kinda sucks as it seems im gna lose all my data
can we try to determine in more detail what people installed before they experienced this?
I just pulled it apart, and cleaned the inside to no avail, nothing seems to be awry, atleast not to my untrained eye, however it did get me thinking.
I listen to music on my tytn all the time, and over time the usb connector has become quite loose, frequently losing connections over activesync and music comes and goes from both lef and right. if the USB connector is shot, then when I plug it in it won't register that there is power, nor will it have the power to light up the red light indicating there is no battery. also, if the usb link is shot, then the phone wasn't charging so my battery is likely dead.
now to test this out I need to have a verified 100% charged battery.
I currently have the same problem. It will not charge via wall/usb. It flashes red once and that's it. Without the battery and plugged in, I get a solid red light. I tried plugging it into the wall charger without a battery and then putting my battery back in. The red light just turns off. That's it. I can get an active sync connection with a dim white screen, but I do not have enough juice to try flashing a new rom. If anyone has issues like these, are you also able to get an activesync connection?
TIA
EDIT: Is it possible to bypass the low battery protection when flashing a rom? My battery is somewhere around 40% so it would be safe.
Update:
Okay, I purchased a new oem battery and a battery charging dock. This way I can charge the battery without the phone before I attempt to flash a new rom.
I still would appreciate it if anyone who has seen these symptoms (white screen BUT with lots of vibrating / no charging / no bootloader) could give me a few pointers. I've exhausted the Wiki and so far it seems my only option to save the phone is to flash a new rom. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to give me some advice.
Hi everyone, yesterday I took my G1 from my pocket (after using it normally for some hours) and it was turned off. I thought the battery was dead (I left it at about 20% charge) so I tried to turn it back on and surprise...no vital signs at all. The phone didn't turn on, and the led was dead. After losing half of my hair, I tried removing the battery and placing it back. Now the phone behaves like this; when I press the power button, as long as I keep it pressed the led flashes red and that's it. When I stop pressing the power button the led stops flashing. When I plug the usb cable, the led gives a solid red and stays like that forever.
Please someone tell me it's just a screwed up battery...please
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Hi everyone, yesterday I took my G1 from my pocket (after using it normally for some hours) and it was turned off. I thought the battery was dead (I left it at about 20% charge) so I tried to turn it back on and surprise...no vital signs at all. The phone didn't turn on, and the led was dead. After losing half of my hair, I tried removing the battery and placing it back. Now the phone behaves like this; when I press the power button, as long as I keep it pressed the led flashes red and that's it. When I stop pressing the power button the led stops flashing. When I plug the usb cable, the led gives a solid red and stays like that forever.
Please someone tell me it's just a screwed up battery...please
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Probably bad battery. It is certainly worth it to at least try another battery -- they're dirt cheap anyways, or better yet, BORROW one.
* Solid green (when connected to the power adapter): The battery is fully charged.
* Solid red (when connected to the power adapter): The battery is charging.
* Flashing red: The battery is low and needs to be charged.
* Flashing green: There is a new notification.
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Hi everyone, yesterday I took my G1 from my pocket (after using it normally for some hours) and it was turned off. I thought the battery was dead (I left it at about 20% charge) so I tried to turn it back on and surprise...no vital signs at all. The phone didn't turn on, and the led was dead. After losing half of my hair, I tried removing the battery and placing it back. Now the phone behaves like this; when I press the power button, as long as I keep it pressed the led flashes red and that's it. When I stop pressing the power button the led stops flashing. When I plug the usb cable, the led gives a solid red and stays like that forever.
Please someone tell me it's just a screwed up battery...please
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Leave it to charge for 30 minutes or so, then try to power on. should be okay
better to charge from ac power if u can
Its possible your charger could be faulty.
I have the same problem, has anyone found a solution?
Try leaving it charge for a good hour, or just go out and try a new battery, could just be dead.
Sent from my Xoom
sometimes if a battery gets to low it wont even charge... not just for phones but cameras too and so on..... iv had to do this to cell phones and cameras.... take a usb cord you dont care about and cut it and expose the red and black wires..... look for the positive on your battery and negative, usually its marked, how positive to positive and negative to negative for 30 seconds to a minute while its plugged into the computer then, pop the battery back into the phone and try to charge..... everytime iv had to do this for a freind or something of my own the battery has lasted over a year after with no problems.... just a suggestion
Thanks for the suggestions. I had already ordered a new battery and the phone boots up with it but it won't charge on or off and usb isn't recognized either. I tried wiggling the plug around to see if it was some kind of loose connection but it doesn't appear to be the case. I may take the phone apart and see if anything is loose but otherwise I'll just have to enjoy the last 30% battery of G1 time I have.
What we had:
Nexus 4. with cracked digitizier, but finely working. (except the battery, which lasted less than it should) i tried to remove glass, of course with no luck. Ended with no image on lcd. but phone worked fine, charged, connected to pc, played sounds, etc.
2 weeks of waiting for new lcd. I didn't charge it all that time. (my bad)
So after replacement, i tried to power on, aand it didn't show any signs of life. Put it on charge, red led blinked once when i connected usb. (there was no red led any time after "first charge")
So now:
When i power it on without charge it gives one short vibration. No led or image.
When i put it on charge no reaction at all, but when i hold power button it gives the same vibration and if i hold it for 8-10 seconds more the red led blinks. It stops blinking only when i release power. Also, when the red led blinks, strange repeated noise comes from charger.
Also, i'm not sure about lcd, but it should be fine. No reaction from pc, also.
Your ideas? Hoping it's not the motherboard fault
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What we had:
Nexus 4. with cracked digitizier, but finely working. (except the battery, which lasted less than it should) i tried to remove glass, of course with no luck. Ended with no image on lcd. but phone worked fine, charged, connected to pc, played sounds, etc.
2 weeks of waiting for new lcd. I didn't charge it all that time. (my bad)
So after replacement, i tried to power on, aand it didn't show any signs of life. Put it on charge, red led blinked once when i connected usb. (there was no red led any time after "first charge")
So now:
When i power it on without charge it gives one short vibration. No led or image.
When i put it on charge no reaction at all, but when i hold power button it gives the same vibration and if i hold it for 8-10 seconds more the red led blinks. It stops blinking only when i release power. Also, when the red led blinks, strange repeated noise comes from charger.
Also, i'm not sure about lcd, but it should be fine. No reaction from pc, also.
Your ideas? Hoping it's not the motherboard fault
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Take the back off again, unplug the battery and replug it. Then try to boot/charge (you can do this without replacing the back, in case you want to try again). If this doesn't work, you may need a new battery. Most likely the battery itself is fine, but maybe the connector ribbon was damaged.
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Take the back off again, unplug the battery and replug it. Then try to boot/charge (you can do this without replacing the back, in case you want to try again). If this doesn't work, you may need a new battery. Most likely the battery itself is fine, but maybe the connector ribbon was damaged.
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I tried. Maybe. Now i'm looking for donor.