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Hello,
does anyone know if it is possible to attach an USB<-> RS232 cable to the newer HTC Devices, since they don't have RS232 anymore (i guess)?
What I want to do is to connect some kind of blackbox to Prophet, Atom or Wizzard. But this Blackbox only has an RS232 Connector (12 Volts).
Is it possible (hardware) and is there a driver for the RS232<->USB in Windows Mobile 5 or do I need to write my own driver?
Thank you
hi
I hope u've found a solution to that probleme.
I'm really very sad that nobody has answered to this subject, is this to mean that this is a stupid question or that nobody uses PDAs for good purposes.
Well, I try to connect my PDA to a total station (a surveying machine) that has only an RS232 port.
Can u help me to find how.
Thanx
without know much about usb to rs232 convertere then i would suspect they would require usb host ablity on the pda side which non of the htc ones i know of do :S
I think Rudegar is right, a usb to RS232 adapter requires a device with USB host. Remeber I discussed this at the GPS World site a couple of years ago, when I got my Qtek 9100 (HTC Wizard).
Couldn't the problem be solved with a Bluetooth -> RS232 dongle?
For instance: http://serialio.com/products/adaptors/BlueSnapXP.php
Here is a list of manufacturers: http://www.thewirelessdirectory.com/Bluetooth-Product/Serial Port Adapters.htm
(I have no experience with these devices; some can draw power from the serial port, others have their own battery, again others have their own powersupply and need to be plugged in)
Jörg
maybe helpful:
* search for:
download USB-HOST for ppc windows mobile
mda xda usb host download
Download Zeno USB Host Drivers
download: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-zeno-usb-host-drivers.html
* Cable Adapter Produkt: http://www.reichelt.de
USB ABU-BST
AK 673-A
usb cable 1euro: http://www.reichelt.de/?ACTION=3;AR...wQARwAAA5RSwY5e7ac6fe7341e083041380a4bf6f0ec4
* pinout mini usb.. http://pinouts.ru/pin_CellularPhones-A-N.shtml
* Modify any USB GPS to XDA Serial RS232 afterrnoon project xda-developers.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=237308
* serial rs232 over bluetooth for 25 EURO
"PICOPlug" or Pico-Plug from HAMA http://www.amazon.de/PC-Innovation-PICO-Plug-Bluetooth-Seriell-Parallel-Adapter/dp/B00006JB4Q
Anyone got a wm5/ce5 usb host driver for htc universal (pxa270 intel arm processor)? I'm trying to write one, but if someone could save me the effort, please do? I know it will work, as it does under linux.
USB Host on a universal will be great. Didn't know it works under Linux.
driver for view a universal as a sd writer and reader or a driver for the universal for attach a pendrive to a universal?
drivers for attaching a pendrive.
A USB host driver enables you to hook up USB devices like memory key, keyboard/mouse etc. to the universal. This feature is only available on a few pda models made by toshiba, fujitsu, asus, acer etc.
imesh said:
driver for view a universal as a sd writer and reader or a driver for the universal for attach a pendrive to a universal?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it have to be supported by the hardware? As far as I know the Universal does not have USB host so getting a driver wouldn't be much help...
apparently it works under linux so the hardware must support it
Good question. I need the host driver and then a driver for mass storage (e.g. pen drive, hard driver, etc), HID (for keyboard mouse), etc. The htc universal has a usb host controller built into the arm processor (pxa270). The problem is that it also has a usb device controller build in which takes precedent for the mini usb out, so you can use activesyn. However, with the right bit of code you can reconfigure port 2 to act as a usb host. The other problem is that port 2 doesn't have any power (but that is easy to fix with an external power source from a usb hub or battery [I use a single AA battery, (giving 5 volts at 0.5-1 amp), that lasts for 2 hours]).
hi any success yet with the usb host function? is it possible or just a hoax?
nothing personal it just seems that some ppl like to make fun about this topic and spread hoax!
u have any evidences that it works under linux?
maybe this link is helping you in creating a driver!
http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/index.html
cheers
Mike
Suspect that you will also need the proper USB host cable that is used on the Sharp Zaurus under LINUX to let the Universal know that you want the USB port to work in host mode, they are about £10 & available from here http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/33
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
Mike
Mikew said:
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
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The USB host is used by Linux on HTC phones, but not for the external USB connector
(BT on magician, and gsm_data on some others http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Serial)
Mikew said:
Suspect that you will also need the proper USB host cable that is used on the Sharp Zaurus under LINUX to let the Universal know that you want the USB port to work in host mode, they are about £10 & available from here http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/33
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
Mike
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I have one for wm2003, I not if it worked in wm05.
Yuo can try it?
any success yet??
Dont think I would want to try a WM2003 driver on a WM5 device.
Mike
Mikew said:
Dont think I would want to try a WM2003 driver on a WM5 device.
Mike
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You can do one backup before installing it.
I have installed it in my Universal and I have not had problems with wm5, but it has not worked with my standar cable
I've had no success with it either.. I have a cable that has the correct connectors.. originally used for connecting a usb pen drive to my lcd picture frame.. but like I said no luck with this RATOC driver.
Mikew said:
Suspect that you will also need the proper USB host cable that is used on the Sharp Zaurus under LINUX to let the Universal know that you want the USB port to work in host mode, they are about £10 & available from here http://www.figlabs.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/33
I have the Zaurus & Universal so I know the cable fits but I don't have a driver to test.
Mike
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i think that this cable is not enough, what about a 5v power source for the usb pen drive you'd connect?
your universal couldn't supply that, then you need a usb cable that can connect to a power source aswell.
You need to use a powered USB hub if the slave device requires power, there are one or two hubs that run on batteries so you can still be mobile.
You will need a hub if you plan to use more than 1 USB device at the same time.
Mike
allmycrud said:
Anyone got a wm5/ce5 usb host driver for htc universal (pxa270 intel arm processor)? I'm trying to write one, but if someone could save me the effort, please do? I know it will work, as it does under linux.
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I didn't know we had it in Linux yet??
In any case, while many devices do use a USB Host or USB Slave chip from a higher level, I believe the Universal talks to its USB as a raw stream device, and therefore can (and does, on occasion) act as a pure Serial communication channel (no discernable protocol beyond 8,n,1) or, therefore, any other type of serial-based channel. Yes, what I am saying is that you could, in fact, hook up a Serial ATA hard disk to an RS232 or USB port directly, so long as the device with the port has low enough level access to the port to absolutely control the data I/O.
The problem you face, however, is that to use the USB port as if the device were the host, you would first need to remove or disable whatever makes it work as the slave. In Windows Mobile that's really not an easy job given the number of different devices and different drivers, some with USB chips, some without... On many devices I can imagine that doing that alone would really bugger up general operation. What happens, for example, to ActiveSync when you suddenly get rid of the port it usually talks to for sync?
Mikew said:
You need to use a powered USB hub if the slave device requires power, there are one or two hubs that run on batteries so you can still be mobile.
You will need a hub if you plan to use more than 1 USB device at the same time.
Mike
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Some USB devices have batteries, or have their own power supply You can also get USB cables with an extra (mains or battery) feed wired to the USB's power lines in parallel.
whatever happened to this thread?
allmycrud have you seen the thread from Zeno with USB host drivers?
there is at least one report of it working on a Universal, but I can't get it working on wm6.1... still have hopes though, as all reports suggest that USB host is possible on a uni... can never get verification from anyone though...
anyone has tried yet usb host functionality ? I found the drivers of ETEN M600/G500 but not tried yet... processor should be the same so the trinity should support this function.
Thank you for your enquiry, the p3600 was not designed to allow usb memory expansion as such there is no current or planned method to enable what you have requested.
It may be possible to find a 3rd party solution but this would not be supported by ourselves but the solution supplier.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
Guybrush said:
I found the drivers of ETEN M600/G500 but not tried yet...
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Could you share either a link or the file?
Should be this
OK, I'm with Hermes, but anyway... According to the specs, E-Tens have S3C2440 while we have SC32442, but they should be the same. The schematics of the evaluation board (p.6) shows that there are two USB hosts: one from DN0/DP0 pins, the second from DN1/DP1 pins. The latter can also be configured as USB Device... and that's what we have at our MiniUSB connector.
So... if E-Ten uses the first USB Host pins, we're out of luck. If they've implemented it in shared mode, the driver should work. But I have a reason for a doubt: M600/M500 have separate I/O pins for USB host and device, while the connector itself is provided on the cradle. If they made it shared, it would be more easy to implement host/device sharing in the cradle rather than in the device...
A soldering iron may help, but I don't want to loose the warranty yet.
An owner of the Platform Builder may recompile the driver to utilize the shared pins as well. That's a better solution.
If you want to make an adapter for tests, note, that you need to supply +5V from an external power supply (which can be a PC USB port), and that you don't need to cross the pins: DN1 is D- for both host and device, and DP1 is D+ for both. Nothing but connectors and wires should be required.
One more note: a USB Host driver for a shared connector should shut down USB Device driver, something similar that WM5torage does. This also makes me doubt that E-Ten uses shared pins, and that's why I believe that a different driver is required.
But it should be possible!
OK, I've made an adaptor from MiniUSB male (to TyTN), USB A female (for devices), and MiniUSB female for power supply.
In the MiniUSB male I shorted pins 4 and 5. At least this way I can use it for charging from other power supplies, and I think it hould not harm, because pin 4 on GND means USB Host for MiniUSB.
I've installed the above drivers, and also USB Mass Storage drivers (attached).
I have a USB mouse, a card rider (4 slots), an MP3 player, and an RS232 port.
Nothing but MP3 player showed any sign of an activity in all my tests.
The MP3 player shows "MASS CONNECT" on its screen if it detects USB activity. If it does not, it just turns to normal operations, showing that it takes power from USB. It turned to this mode after I installed the attached driver. But I see no a mounted disk on TyTN itself.
So, it works somehow, and I'm almost confident it can be made to work...
Probably I just did something wrong... Who else wants to try?
I must add that installed stuff didn't affect the USB Device from working: ActiveSync connects OK, and WM5torage 1.73 works as before.
Hardwarewise, there are a couple of things to try: disconnect pin 4 from GND at the phone side, disconnect power supply from the phone (providing it only to the attached device), or both...
i'm waiting connectors to try something by myself too. Thanks Lurker0 for all this tips.
thread about usb host from eten users
http://www.eten-users.net/index.php?showtopic=4328&st=0
I ended up with a hard reset Of course I made full backup before the tests.
I've found out that GPRS stopped working. The error messages were like "Modem not found" and "The current call should be finished before data connection" (from memory and ranslated from Russian).
Then I found out that hardware settings for OHCI are wrong:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\OHCI]
"MemBase"=dword:B0900000
"Irq"=dword:0000000B
"UseExistingSettings"=dword:00000000
"MemLen"=dword:00001000
"SysIntr"=dword:00000011
"Order"=dword:00000001
"Index"=dword:00000001
"Dll"="ohci.dll"
"Prefix"="HCD"
"InterfaceType"=dword:00000000
IRQ should be 0x1A (from working registry and also Samsung datasheet), and memory base 0xB5900000.
I've deleted ohci.dll and usbd.dll, then uninstalled that HID driver to no available. I needed a working phone now, and decided to hard reset and restore.
It's strange why IRQ and MemBase were wrong. It may explain why it didn't work. Good I noticed them before tests.
Hey Lurker0
Did you get around to trying it again or was the project abandoned?
Would love to hear how you are going with this if you're still working on it =)
No, I did nothing since that.
HTC Herald compatibility
Does anyone know if the herald can host any USB devices
I'm about to purchase an HTC P3300 and I would like to use a car diagnostic software call "VagCheck". To use it, you need a cable to connect from the the PPC to the cars OBDII port. These cables only come for iPaq ppc connectors to OBDII, serial to OBDII, and USB to OBDII. These cables are expensive and I already have a serial to OBDII cable. So I'm looking for some kind of way to connect the cable to the P3300 via the mini USB connector but I know there will need to be some drivers involved.
Does anyone know if there's an adapter from mini USB to regular USB or Serial for PPC's with drivers?
BTW, there is a more expensive alternative. There's a bluetooth connector for the car that plugs into the OBDII and you can just connect via BT. But that is the most expensive set-up.
Hi!
Is there any (not that expensive) possibility to "teach" the HTC Touch Cruise the USB Host functionality? I want to connect a mini USB TMC Reveicer and maybe another GPS Receiver that has an MD6 Connector.
Thanks in advance
USB Host functionality (USB On The Go, or USB OTG) is hardware based, so AFAIK, there is no way of achieving that on the Polaris.