Hi guys,
i accidentally left my HTC HD2 in my jeans,which i put in my washing machine.It spent 15 mins on full cycle,after which i managed to figure out my disastrous blunder and pull my HD2 and its batt out. Im extremely desperate to restore life back into my phone.I know HTC will not repair it since all 3 water indicators are pink. From a few online tips, ive taken apart the housing and the main LCM Module. I have placed these two parts in a container of rice. I have not stripped it to the bare parts as i fear i might ruin it further. Moreover, i have not submerged it in alcohol yet. the only thing ive done is flush out the soap with water(did that only for abt 10 secs though...is it enough?) and put it in rice. Its been 2 hours since ive put in in the rice. Im going to leave it in the rice for abt 2-3 days before turning it on(hopefully it does...).I really need help fast guys. Should i use alcohol NOW before putting in rice?...Should i strip it to the bare essentials?...Should i use a vacuum cleaner?...if anyone can help,please do.Im really desperate and worried here.I really love my phone...and please do not ask me why i did this effing mistake...im still hating myself more than ever in my life for leaving my HD2 in my jeans.tks alot for your time and i look forward to your suggestions.tks again.
PS:Also, after i pulled my phone out,there didnt seem to be any patches or bubbles of water under the screen.Does that mean the whole screen is flooded or no water went inside?...And i do see water inside the camera.So is the camera dead forever?tks
Well,
i once found a Nokia without a battery in a roadside-stream of water... after drying and powering it on it worked flawless...
the real thing you have to worry about will be the water in the cam module. i have no clue as to how get it out. i once had water in the speaker of a very expensive babysitter-device. i never got it out. never. it stayed in there for a year or more. it was toilet water. very nice.
what happens to your leo when it is in contact with water while the battery is connected? do you know that?
well, if not, this is what i know: the electrical current will eventually short some circuits and thus might break them. if you are lucky the shorts will not break anything. if you are not lucky, something will be f****.
then, the energy, metal and water will lead to some "galvanizing" effect i have observed before, meaning, some circuits on the board may build some micro-connections with a whitish coating. what exactly happens there is beyond my knowledge. i have seen it on some devices which had been exposed to water and energy for a while. i could still fix them by scraping (yes, indeed) that off with a micro screw driver, being extremely careful not to harm any print circuit or smd-parts. that is a tough nut to achieve, for real. its not easy.
I am unsure, how the CPU is soldered onto the mainboard. there is a guy here who created some heatsink for those who had broken solderpoints and heat problems. he had said that, if you want to take off the chip you need break it because there is some epoxy around it. that would mean its connections (the little ball solderings) are waterproof. that would already mean you only have to spend attention to the surroundings. that is very relieving.
you might want to check the Internet for a replacement camera module if you don't figure out how to get the water out.
Make sure you keep your impatience under control and don't power on the device with the water still in the cam. it will do damage. the cam has electrical connections too, remember.
If i was in your situation i would assume the phone lost and use it to experiment a little. this will eventually help people here.
what i would do is the following: disassemble completely.
take all parts that can withstand a certain amount of heat and put it in an oven.
power on the oven with not more than 40 degrees Celsius. make sure not to put it under more heat-stress as it will loosen the solderpoints at about 60 degrees i think, maybe even at lower degrees. i am unsure.
warm it up for a while so that excess water dries away fast.
then check the mainboard and other parts for hidden spaces where water could have remained unseen (e.g. the camera).
then check for the witish coating, some hard to see, nearly transparent layers of water and/or soap residue. i am nearly sure that this witish coating i once observed came from high chalk (calcicated) water. this would be removable physically (scraping) or with citric acid and a soft cloth.
now, what to do with the screen? well, unsure here. check for water. if you think its very dry just leave it and connect it.
if it contains water i would probabyl also just try to let it dry. i cannot really advise here since i have not disassembled the hd2 yet.
i only know that replacement screens are not too expensive. you should possibly buy a new one rather then risking to further damage the phone with invisible shorts.
i need to cook for my wife now, hope i could give you some input mate.
good luck with your device. bad story man. bad story...
try to put for 24h into an ermetic box (closed), with salt in lower part and rice on the upper part (1/4 salt, 1/4 rice, phone, 1/4 empty) and close the box
this method can remove the major part of umidity
you can try for 3/4 days replacing salt and rice every day and cleaning the ermetic box
you can try too with a little oven for 10/15/20 minutes (max 60° Celsius and without battery of course) but i think that salt and rice is a better method
of course if you're able to open the HD2 (i done it 2 times and it's not so easy), you can use an alcoholic solution to clean chips and remove oxide (i use a Flux NO CLEAN)
DO NOT POWER ON PHONE UNTIL IT'S NOT FULLY DRY
Update
Hi,
my phone seems dry now(after 2 days of drying).I have not disassembled it completely though. The LCM module doesnt show any signs of corrosion,A few contacts and wires look okay.Not sure of the condition inside the module. Before waiting it out for another day or two, can i ask if i can use denatured alcohol to flush out any impurities or residue left by the laundry soap? Will it do any good or will it do any harm? cus im worried the alcohol might wet the phone again,now that it is dry,or maybe spoil some components. Also,may i ask if any data loss on the ROM or any damage to the cpu is likely?Tks alot.
I dropped a old cell phone in water and this was the guide i used to bring it back to life...well most of that guide anyway as well as a few other notes I picked up.
1st.) you should never try and turn the phone on intill it has had time to dry, (48 hours min)
2nd.) take apart as carefully and best you can..so that you uncover as much of the phone as you can
3rd.) dont lay the phone flat. stand it inside a cup and pour rice over it till it covers it.
I had to let my phone sit for almost a week and tried it after two days and every day after that. On the third day it turned on but still acted really odd, with each day it acted better and better. finally after six days it was back to its old self.
Please also know to not use a heat source like an over, microwave or hair dryer. If you do use a hair dryer ONLY use the "cool" setting. Hot air can make it more difficult for you to get it back on its feet. You can use rubbing alcohol to try and clean up any residue left behind by the laundry soap. I've seen sites say to submerge your phone in alcohol but i would suggest to use a q-tip and wipe the inside clean as best as you can. Make sure you do this well, the alcohol will not harm the phone farther but its the minerals or other deposits from the detergent that will.
If its available, you should use an alcohol concentration of 95% rather than rubbing alcohol that usually contains only 70%.
I hope this helps you as it helped me. I was lost when it happened and didn't know what to do. I pieced together this method from different instructions found online and it worked for me perfect. If all else fails you can call t-mobile and do whats called an out of warranty exchange. Each phone will have a different out of warranty exchange price but I had to do this once with a old phone I had and at the time it was only $100 for that model phone (htc mt3gs). It could be much more, like i said it all depends on the phone.
htccraze said:
I dropped a old cell phone in water and this was the guide i used to bring it back to life...well most of that guide anyway as well as a few other notes I picked up.
1st.) you should never try and turn the phone on intill it has had time to dry, (48 hours min)
2nd.) take apart as carefully and best you can..so that you uncover as much of the phone as you can
3rd.) dont lay the phone flat. stand it inside a cup and pour rice over it till it covers it.
I had to let my phone sit for almost a week and tried it after two days and every day after that. On the third day it turned on but still acted really odd, with each day it acted better and better. finally after six days it was back to its old self.
Please also know to not use a heat source like an over, microwave or hair dryer. If you do use a hair dryer ONLY use the "cool" setting. Hot air can make it more difficult for you to get it back on its feet. You can use rubbing alcohol to try and clean up any residue left behind by the laundry soap. I've seen sites say to submerge your phone in alcohol but i would suggest to use a q-tip and wipe the inside clean as best as you can. Make sure you do this well, the alcohol will not harm the phone farther but its the minerals or other deposits from the detergent that will.
If its available, you should use an alcohol concentration of 95% rather than rubbing alcohol that usually contains only 70%.
I hope this helps you as it helped me. I was lost when it happened and didn't know what to do. I pieced together this method from different instructions found online and it worked for me perfect. If all else fails you can call t-mobile and do whats called an out of warranty exchange. Each phone will have a different out of warranty exchange price but I had to do this once with a old phone I had and at the time it was only $100 for that model phone (htc mt3gs). It could be much more, like i said it all depends on the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks alot for the detailed post.I will definitely follow all the instructions in the above posts.I have already done most of them.I just have to clean my phone with the alcohol. Regarding the warranty exchange, there are many problems.Firstly,im not using T-Mobile,im actually in Singapore and my operator did provide a 1 year warranty,but sadly the warranty expired 2 months ago.Moreover,all the 3 water indicators and blazing red,and while unscrewing the modules,the 'warranty void' sticker was also torn through...so yep,im left with myself and the help of the wonderful members here.tks alot for your help so far.ill report back in 2 days time,when i power up my phone.
The phone that I sent back was the phone that had water damage. Four months after I took mine for a swim my charger port broke. I told them that the phone works fine but it does have water damage. I'm not sure why they didn't charge me the $100 they said because my water damage indicators showed bright pink also, still I was glad they didn't. Since your not through t-mobile that wouldn't work for you though.
If this comes to this, fingers crossed it don't but I have seen some with water damage sell on eBay around $90-$125. You might be able to sell it and then put an additional $30 to it to buy one that's in good working order, after all I bought mine on there for $120.
Sent from my HTC Leo using XDA App
htccraze said:
The phone that I sent back was the phone that had water damage. Four months after I took mine for a swim my charger port broke. I told them that the phone works fine but it does have water damage. I'm not sure why they didn't charge me the $100 they said because my water damage indicators showed bright pink also, still I was glad they didn't. Since your not through t-mobile that wouldn't work for you though.
If this comes to this, fingers crossed it don't but I have seen some with water damage sell on eBay around $90-$125. You might be able to sell it and then put an additional $30 to it to buy one that's in good working order, after all I bought mine on there for $120.
Sent from my HTC Leo using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
alright dude...but you mean your HD2 went for a swim? So did it work after that or was the broken charger port the only damage?...and regarding the eBay sales,i dont mind if i can get a good price,but i also need to buy another used HD2(preferably an unlocked T-Mobile one)..but lets just hope i dont go there...i want my phone to come back to life and wreck havoc on the iPhones and LGs like before
Yea after I did the above mentioned steps it work just fine. Then after a few months the charger port stopped working. It getting wet didn't have anything to do with the charger port malfunctioning.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
htccraze said:
Yea after I did the above mentioned steps it work just fine. Then after a few months the charger port stopped working. It getting wet didn't have anything to do with the charger port malfunctioning.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow...thats reassuring news.tks
Update
Hi,
i am very pleased to say that my HTC HD2 is back alive and kicking. I followed all the useful steps provided by the very helpful members here and its working well. A few niggles of course, include a few patches of slight texture variation at the top of the screen if tilted about 150 degrees,but it is very hard to see otherwise,so no worries. Secondly, the mic is dead since no one can hear me on the other side. Other than everything is perfectly fine!...didnt expect such a recovery after that washing machine incident. So, thanks alot for your help and also thanks alot to HTC for making a good phone!..now,a small question.any ideas on where i can buy the mic module separately? tks alot
I would look on ebay. There is also several repair shops you might have some luck contacting. Here in the US there is a company call cellphone CPR or something along those lines that could probably help find and install the mic for you.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
htccraze said:
I would look` on ebay. There is also several repair shops you might have some luck contacting. Here in the US there is a company call cellphone CPR or something along those lines that could probably help find and install the mic for you.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the thing.here in Singapore,most of the repair shops fear to dissassemble the phone and repair the components.those shops that do are not well established,so I wouldn't really trust them on my phone.my best bet is to send it to HTC,but I need to order the warranty and water indicator stickers from eBay,else they wont repair it.and I've checked eBay,they don't sell the Mic on its own.I suspect its a whole module by itself,but I don't mind soldering a new Michael myself.just can't find one.
It's a difficult job as the microphone is assembled to the main board found at the base of the unit.
This entire mainboard would have to be replaced and it houses the Qualcomm CPU and other items.
If you do dissemble there is a rubber black protector on it. Try removing it and cleaning it. Perhaps some dirt or something got in there and has blocked the microphone function.
Good luck...
xlr8me said:
It's a difficult job as the microphone is assembled to the main board found at the base of the unit.
This entire mainboard would have to be replaced and it houses the Qualcomm CPU and other items.
If you do dissemble there is a rubber black protector on it. Try removing it and cleaning it. Perhaps some dirt or something got in there and has blocked the microphone function.
Good luck...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if theres some dirt, theres gotta be at least some sort of noise audible to the person on the other side...i suspect the whole mic to be broken.anyway, cant expect all to be well after a ride through the washing machine haha...ill ring HTC and ask for the repair cost.doubt it would be anywhere near affordable though...
Well, i'm following this with great interest. I am very happy to hear how good the recovery went.
Kawshigan, please update the thread once you know what htc said. I'd be interested to hear too.
Thanks
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I had ordered the HTC water damage stickers and the little void stickers for the screws on the back off ebay.
I know its not ethical but i just couldn't afford what HTC wanted to repair the phone ($185) so i got it back and
sent it to T-mobile instead. HTC told me if they find water damage on the motherboard that it voids the warranty
as well as if the stickers are red/pink. I don't know what they can trace on the motherboard or if T-Mobile is the
same but i didnt have a problem returning it to them. I was never charged the $100 T-Mobile said it would
be for a out of warranty exhange either.
kawshigan said:
That's the thing.here in Singapore,most of the repair shops fear to dissassemble the phone and repair the components.those shops that do are not well established,so I wouldn't really trust them on my phone.my best bet is to send it to HTC,but I need to order the warranty and water indicator stickers from eBay,else they wont repair it.and I've checked eBay,they don't sell the Mic on its own.I suspect its a whole module by itself,but I don't mind soldering a new Michael myself.just can't find one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not a module, it's just the mic itself, but you need some skills to desolder and solder it back on motherboard.
If you have no other solution, PM me your adress and I'll send you one.
---------- Post added at 09:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 AM ----------
xlr8me said:
It's a difficult job as the microphone is assembled to the main board found at the base of the unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kind of true, but not for a skilled service guy (a 15 minutes job)!
xlr8me said:
This entire mainboard would have to be replaced and it houses the Qualcomm CPU and other items.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally false!
Dropped my phone on concrete. It BOUNCED - thank god for cases. It seems fine, except for this... (see attached image)
Yeah.... One of the NFC pins snapped off. As you can imagine, my NFC no longer works. At all. As I use NFC on a very regular basis, this is not OK.
Anyone have something like this happen to them? Any ideas on how to fix it? I was considering a drop of solder, but I really am not sure about what to do.
Thanks in advance.
mtmerrick said:
Dropped my phone on concrete. It BOUNCED - thank god for cases. It seems fine, except for this... (see attached image)
Yeah.... One of the NFC pins snapped off. As you can imagine, my NFC no longer works. At all. As I use NFC on a very regular basis, this is not OK.
Anyone have something like this happen to them? Any ideas on how to fix it? I was considering a drop of solder, but I really am not sure about what to do.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
these NFC pins contains some internal circuits if you apply solder on it , then you will going to short circuit the hole circuit which may damage your NFC coil . you may damage your coil due to extensive heat due to solder . so please go to service center.
yep, that's right, try not to diy this one. the circuit may tolerate a bit of heat but my main concern would be EM parasite charges from your solder iron. These can screw the gain for the amplifying circuitry linked to the nfc coils. This is also true for the GSM/GPS antenna and in some measure for the WLAN.
however it should be an easy fix for a service center since they have ESD safe equipments.
This is a heavily rooted/ROMed/otherwise modified device. Would Samsung even take it back? I thought my warranty was long gone?
since your warranty is expired so stop bothering about root . as far as NFC pins are concerned replacement will not cost to much (NFC parts costs few dollars ) ..service charge is what you have to pay. so go to service center and stop bothering about root and rom.
Alright, I'm not sure what I need to do to here, I've never gone to a service center before.
Does this (image attached) work as a place to go?
yes , that's the place you have to go . i think they are going to take your phone for 1 to 2 days so keep an backup phone with you.
rishav754 said:
yes , that's the place you have to go . i think they are going to take your phone for 1 to 2 days so keep an backup phone with you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well ****. I don't have a backup phone. This is gonna be REALLY annoying.
I am predicting not sure.......
Sent from my C2305 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
or i could just replace the module itself....
look at this: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1400003697&sr=8-1&keywords=N7100+SD+sim
i guess i'll just be replacing it by hand.
looks good ... its the cheapest way to fix your phone ...:victory:
please ensure that i case of manufacturing defects they will going to replace it ( there may be chance manufacturing defects so be cautious )
go on replace the circuit board ...
Easy workaround
mtmerrick said:
Dropped my phone on concrete. It BOUNCED - thank god for cases. It seems fine, except for this... (see attached image)
Yeah.... One of the NFC pins snapped off. As you can imagine, my NFC no longer works. At all. As I use NFC on a very regular basis, this is not OK.
Anyone have something like this happen to them? Any ideas on how to fix it? I was considering a drop of solder, but I really am not sure about what to do.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know it's been a while but thought somebody else looking up might benefit at least.
I had the same problem and I wish I knew how the contact broke off. I am a heavy NFC user and so all I did is simply take the inside of a bubblegum wrapper (the aluminium foil) and folded small enough to fit in the pit, yet big enough to make contact with the back cover. Cigarette packs also have such lining wrappers inside BTW. Then I simply have an extra full bubblegum wrapper (folded non conductive side up) and keep it behind the battery JIC I need to replace the hack when I open the back cover and loose the small piece from the contact point or may be miraculously when the other NFC contact also breaks off.
Also, conductive glue could be used to stick it if at all you want to go that far.
HTH!
Hello,
Unfortunately, I am in possession of a Galaxy S4 I9505 which has been dropped into water. It doesn't show any signs of live except a single vibrate after around 6 seconds of holding down the power button. Drying the device in rice hadn't helped, so I upped the ante and submerged the motherboard of the phone in ethanol as per the instructions of a revive-a-phone kit and left to dry for some time. After this it still didn't work, so I assumed that the motherboard was simply too damaged.
I had managed to buy another used phone (working, but with a smashed digitiser) and swapped over the motherboard from that one onto the new. Unfortunately though, it still doesn't work. I have disconnected all of the connections to the motherboard (the externals that is, camera etc) with the exception of the video cable and it still does the same thing.
Is there anything I am missing? Or does it look like the LCD is at fault? If so, would it be in any way possible to exchange the LCD without replacing the digitizer too?
I am sorry for the drawn out question, but any help would be very much appreciated!
-Darran
Dcduo said:
Hello,
Unfortunately, I am in possession of a Galaxy S4 I9505 which has been dropped into water. ... so I upped the ante and submerged the motherboard of the phone in ethanol as per the instructions of a revive-a-phone kit and left to dry for some time. After this it still didn't work, so I assumed that the motherboard was simply too damaged.
I had managed to buy another used phone (working, but with a smashed digitiser) and swapped over the motherboard from that one onto the new. Unfortunately though, it still doesn't work. I have disconnected all of the connections to the motherboard (the externals that is, camera etc) with the exception of the video cable and it still does the same thing.
Is there anything I am missing? Or does it look like the LCD is at fault? If so, would it be in any way possible to exchange the LCD without replacing the digitizer too?
I am sorry for the drawn out question, but any help would be very much appreciated!
-Darran
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AFAIK, digitizer is connected with LCD by some glue...
However, putting the phone into ethanol itself could potentially kill the phone, as it is a good solvent for any acrylic based paints, isolations etc...
spamtrash said:
AFAIK, digitizer is connected with LCD by some glue...
However, putting the phone into ethanol itself could potentially kill the phone, as it is a good solvent for any acrylic based paints, isolations etc...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the idea of it is that it will dissolve any deposits from the water that might be left on the motherboard. I had used it to some success on another phone, but no luck this time. In any case, it was only the motherboard that was submerged, not the entire phone as the guides would suggest, so that couldn't be the problem.
Agh, I see what you mean. I have gotten time to view some videos and it seems it is neigh on impossible to remove the screen from the digitizer. I bought a second phone with the only piece I needed being broken!
Yes the title mentioned it.
I seriously dont want to type how it happened I'm already broken inside ?
Kept it in rice for 2 days, put it in front of a heater for hours, changing positions.
But it dont just turn on.
It did for a bit when i put it on charge, sort of a blink.
Still drying it up in front of heater but i am afraid it wont work.
After trying everything i actually made my mind to spend money on it to get it fixed.
But then got to know that nexus protect can not be bought after buying nexus.
Tried contacting them but got no respond.
So guys please write all the possible solutions to get my nexus fixed.
Please ?
Forget about the rice thing, it´s worthless. It helps to remove the water but still leaves all the marks behind. You need to open the device, disconnect the battery, clean the PCB with pure alcohol ( rubbing alcohol, isopropanol ). Let it dry and try again. In 90 out of 100 cases this method might still save your device.
Gorgtech said:
Forget about the rice thing, it´s worthless. It helps to remove the water but still leaves all the marks behind. You need to open the device, disconnect the battery, clean the PCB with pure alcohol ( rubbing alcohol, isopropanol ). Let it dry and try again. In 90 out of 100 cases this method might still save your device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish i could do everything you've mentioned but i haven't got tools nor expertise ??
Can huawei fix it ?
Huawei might be able to fix it but I guess that the repair costs might be nearly as high as a new device. Just have a look at this: https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660 Maybe you might want to try it too if you buy the needed tools ?
Gorgtech said:
Huawei might be able to fix it but I guess that the repair costs might be nearly as high as a new device. Just have a look at this: https://de.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+6P+Teardown/51660 Maybe you might want to try it too if you buy the needed tools ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll have a look in a moment.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
If it were possible to purchase insurance AFTER you damage the phone, the insurance companies would go bankrupt. lol
insurance is there to replace something in the EVENT it gets damage.
not to repair damages already occurred. How would that make any financial sense, for any company on earth?
eefo said:
I wish i could do everything you've mentioned but i haven't got tools nor expertise
Can huawei fix it ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I might be able to help you out, I sent you a PM.
i too have a water damaged 6P, what are my options for repairing or selling it to someone?
Water damaged nexus 6p
Docdangle said:
I might be able to help you out, I sent you a PM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did you help the other person I wonder? I just recently dropped my nexus in water too, but problem is Im not sure how to save it as I hadn't got the tools, and I'm currently in the middle of nowhere so I'm not sure where to find a technician