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BMW Universal Phone Interface

Hello,
does anyone here drive a recent BMW that has the Bluetooth phone interface (essentially a bluetooth headset built into the car)? If yes, are you able to use it with an XDA-II?
I can't seem to bond the device with the car - the phone thinks it's done it, but the car just shows "BLUETOOTH PAIRING" and when I try to place a call the phone asks for the passkey and goes through what seems like a successful pairing process - but it does not actually work. The "BMW ULF wants to bond, enter passkey" message keeps appearing and appearing after every seemingly successful bonding attempt.
Anyone?
Marton

bmw bt
with the kind of money you paid for that car, the salesman should come over and do the pairing for you.

I remember reading somthing on this subjet on the forum.
Search the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4258&highlight=bmw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3981&highlight=bmw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5029&highlight=bmw
cheers

Thanks guys! I guess I'm out of luck then.
I tried to use a spare Nokia 6600 I had lying around and I got a bit further, but it's still unusable. The Nokia bonds perfectly, I can call with the car's interface, incoming calls ring in the car's speakers - but whenever the call is answered only the phone's speakers and mic work...
Apparently not only does the XDA-II not support the handsfree profile (if you think about it, why should it? it would be a surprise if ANYTHING BT-related worked on it) but the Nokia 6600 is screwed up too.
I guess I'll have to get a Nokia 6310. That's one of the the recommended phones by BMW:
http://www.circlebmw.com/parts/blue/phones.htm
I just thought that since I had a "universal phone kit" in the car it was supposed to work with any recent BT phone. Universal? That list above is shockingly short.

Have you installed the latest version of bluetooth tools?

Well, Bluetooth tools actually made things worse. It still wouldn't bond correctly with the car, but after that it kept connecting and re-connecting to my PC every few seconds, even when BT was off! (It seemed to turn itself on automatically after a few minutes.) The TDK systray notification was driving me crazy. Getting rid of BT Tools solved this partucular problem.
How is the new MDA-II ROM (1.72) in regards to Bluetooth? I hear that some bonding problems have been solved - is the handsfree profile supported yet? I'm tempted to upgrade but given that it's just a beta and it's hard to go back if I end up disliking it is discouraging.

Redirect ALL Audio to a BT Headset?

Hi folks,
I have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes 100/TYTN, I believe) running WM5 on the stock ROM from Cingular/AT&T (the recently upgraded one). I am trying to redirect all audio output, no matter what it is, to my Plantronics Model 340 headset. This is a monaural headset, but I don't care, because all I want to do is listen to voice podcasts and audio quality is not an issue.
A few people have told me about the program "BTAudio," but I tried this and it doesn't appear to work on my phone. Running the BTAudioOn program produces a soft hiss in the headset, but other than that you hear nothing through it. BTAudioOff turns off the hiss.
I thought that maybe this would work better with the WIDCOMM stack that you folks have been working on, but I can't find an actual install guide for that or anything saying "hey, this is ready to go and you should use it now."
Help?

http://www.teksoftbluemusic.com/
It works great, for me.

vmiguel said:
http://www.teksoftbluemusic.com/
It works great, for me.
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Thanks! anyone else have other ideas? I would prefer not to go with trialware as there exist other solutions that work fine on other handsets.
I feel like there's just one little thing I'd have to tweak somewhere to get it to work, if only I knew what it was.

Actually, a couple of things happened here:
1) At first it didn't work.
2) Then I held down the button on my headset, and the Voice Speed Dial application started itself, all the audio was redirected to the headset for about 5 seconds, and then it stopped.
3) Then THIS stopped and wouldn't work anymore. Then when I pressed the "play" button in the Today screen plugin, it started working (for the two-minute trial period). I haven't been able to make it work again since.
I think there is some chance I could make this work if I could disable the Voice Speed Dial application, but I don't know how :-/

Bluetooth and Sony HBH-DS980

I have now tried 3 different bluetooth headsets with my AT&T Tilt with Stock Rom. First was my BlueAnt V12 I used great with my RAZR then I bought a Motorola S705 now I have Sony HBH-DS980.
With the BlueAnt V12 the audio was low and tinny and couldn't hear the caller
The Motorola S705 sounded good minor choppiness but the callers couldn't hear me worth a damn. Both of these devices paired great and kept connection, only the Motorola would loose connection if I got a system alarm or if I was streaming music. For just handset operation it worked great. With the Sony it seems to be a crap shoot when they are going to work. I installed JetWare to enable Caller ID Name and Ringtone through headset and when I pair them the first time they work great all day long. However if I turn bluetooth off on the phone and then back on I have issues with disconnecting and sound not going through headset for calls.
So I installed the new Official AT&T Rom from HTC's Site the other day hoping the bluetooth improvements they made would help. I decided to try JetWare again just to see if it worked, again I started having problems again. So I hard reset and didn't install the JetWare Extensions. For the first day everything worked great. Next day I fired it up it's up to it's old tricks of disconnecting after a call.
Anyone else having these issues? My state is going to be bluetooth only while driving in about 4 months so I really need bluetooth to work.

Can you charge the sony ds980 via usb?

No it has a real strange plug for charging

Hi, I have the Sony Ds980. I've experienced similar problems in the past.
check your Bluetooth settings on the phone: communication manager --> Settings --> bluetooth. Select your device (ds-980) but don't double click on it. and then check its mode: in that window, ensure that you have checkmarks in both options (i.e, Turn on bluetooth & make sure this device is visible to other devices). Sometimes, when you restart your bluetooth headset, the second option is left unchecked, thus causing disconnections between it and the device.
another option is to trigger the headset button. sometimes, when a call comes in, I would have to do this once or twice before it connects.
I think it is a bug.
i have the Jetware extension and MSVoice, and they help with the caller ID.
HTH,
rgds, Manny

I'm trying to decided between the DS980 and the Moto S9.
I'm so tired of wasting my money on crap.

Thanks I'll have a look at those settings, I just wish JetWare uninstalled nicely
I have been running it lately without JetWare and the only issue I am having this way is the wireless stereo portion disconnects after each Incoming call it does not do this if I place a call.
With JetWare I can sometimes keep it connected no matter what the issue is it connects but when I place a test call it rings on the headset but when I answer the call it isn't comming in on the headset it is still on the phone although the call button works and ringing on the headset works. It got to be a pain to have to place a few test calls to make sure the headset was working.

dalavar said:
Thanks I'll have a look at those settings, I just wish JetWare uninstalled nicely
I have been running it lately without JetWare and the only issue I am having this way is the wireless stereo portion disconnects after each Incoming call it does not do this if I place a call.
With JetWare I can sometimes keep it connected no matter what the issue is it connects but when I place a test call it rings on the headset but when I answer the call it isn't comming in on the headset it is still on the phone although the call button works and ringing on the headset works. It got to be a pain to have to place a few test calls to make sure the headset was working.
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Well, that does it for me. The DS980 is officially off my list.

VC 1.6 and Bluetooth, revisited...

Hi Again,
RE: the old Voice Command issue with the Touch....When I am using my bluetooth, I hit the call button on the earpiece and get the tone. I say, for ex., "call home", and get the usual voice response, "Call Home?", to which I respond yes. Then i just get the end tone. It doesn't dial the number. Works fine without ther bluetooth. My understanding was VC didn't work at all with BT, but now that I'm this close, I'm wondering if there is a fix...Also, not to beat a dead horse, but anything new on voice notifications, especially Email and appointments. I really miss that from my old BlackJack with VC 1.5....
Thanks all,
Gary

Bluetooth and Voice Command 1.6 work perfectly on my Touch Cruise. (Although, it might be causing an issue with A2DP...I have to investigate to make sure though.). Eitherway, the point of my post was to let you know that VC 1.6 does over bluetooth, with not only commands, but also voice notifications coming over properly. So maybe the problem is your Radio ROM? Have you tried any others? Do the Radio ROMs from the MSM7200 models work for you guys with the MSM7500? If so, the most upto date Touch Cruise Radio ROM could do the trick for you.

Similar problem here.
With my stock touch, VC1.6 works better then with previous devices, but still not 100%.
I can initiate calls by pressing the button on my headset and, unlike devices of the past, notifications can be heard via the headset.
Where I have a problem, is in VC recognizing my response to confirmations. Anotherwords, if I have confirmations turned on for voice dialing, and say "dial Michele at home", VC will come back and confirm "dial Michele at home?". But when I acknowledge and say "yes", it does not recognize this, and times out.
If I turn confirmations off completely, everything works fine.

You can actually hear the confirmations lol? When I tried it I could barely hear the confirmations.

Dew.man,
How do you turn off confirmations? I can see the check boxes for voice enabling, and calendar reminders, but nothing about disabling the confirmations. (I have ver. 1.60.4622, is there a newer one?) Also, (for mindfrost) regarding the volume thru the bluetooth, there is a fix for that which works great. I'm at work and I'd have to look for it, but it is probably on this site . And the ever popular "audiopara" fix works GREAT for all other volume issues. Just drop the folder in the phone's windows directory. It is available on this site as well.
Gary

garpt said:
Dew.man,
How do you turn off confirmations? I can see the check boxes for voice enabling, and calendar reminders, but nothing about disabling the confirmations. (I have ver. 1.60.4622, is there a newer one?) Also, (for mindfrost) regarding the volume thru the bluetooth, there is a fix for that which works great. I'm at work and I'd have to look for it, but it is probably on this site . And the ever popular "audiopara" fix works GREAT for all other volume issues. Just drop the folder in the phone's windows directory. It is available on this site as well.
Gary
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I would love to know the fix for the BT issue, please post.

After months of tweaking (including Jetware, that doesn't even have direct support for Touch), I did finally get MS VC working well on my Touch, even with voice confirmation and all. But it would take out my A2DP stereo capability time and time again. I implemented every other tweak and tip out there. Besides A2DP being unusable, it would also take out being to listen to Sprint TV over a BT headphone, which was a real bummer.
About 3 months ago I finally gave up VC. I had to ask what were my must haves, and they were rock solid A2DP to play my Rhapsody to-go tracks on the memory card with my two BT stereo headphones, and listening to SprintTV over the BT mono or stereo. Voice command was third on the list, and I'd just had to survive with the mickey-mouse voice dialing that came with the Touch... I uninstalled the MS VC for good.
Now everything is rock solid, and I much regret the literally hundreds of hours of my life I wasted on VC, not to mention my $40 bucks.

For those of us who don't use stereo bluetooth.. ie, myself I'd love to know what the fix was for getting the confirmation volume corrected. It'd make voice dialing in noisy places (such as while driving, in airports, etc) a whole lot easier. If anyone in this thread recalls, what was the solution to that?

Please help: Bluetooth problem

Finally, i got my HD today. Everything is working fine, except for one thing.
I'm not able connect with my bluetooth carkit. I've tried severall things: Carkit searching my device, which was visible and device searching for carkit. Both without success
Anybody an idea what i'm doing wrong here?

This may sound like I'm being condescending, but I'm not. Have you tried turning it off and then back on? The HD has a couple of problems that are solved by a power cycle. If it still doesn't work, then is the carkit compatible with HTC's? It's not a Sony Ericsson one is it? Their Bluetooth tech isn't very pally with other devices.

Acelister said:
This may sound like I'm being condescending, but I'm not. Have you tried turning it off and then back on? The HD has a couple of problems that are solved by a power cycle. If it still doesn't work, then is the carkit compatible with HTC's? It's not a Sony Ericsson one is it? Their Bluetooth tech isn't very pally with other devices.
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What do you mean with a power cycle?
I turned the device several times off. Performed several resets. No luck. The carkit is working fine with my old HTC 3600

The Bluetooth [for phone/A2DP etc] in WM is pretty retarded when you compare it with phone manufacturers like motorola and nokia who have had it down perfect for years now - it's one of may major gripes with WM (and why I can't wait for Android, then some clever person can hopefully develop a BT interface that WORKS properly...anyway) - I've not tried to hook mine up to the car yet [will try tonight] but if it's any consolation my Diamond took a few go's to get hooked up as well (in both cars - seemed to prefer the Parrot unit though)
Just one thing - you DO have the bluetooth set so that it is visible to other devices right? (I know that may sound a bit patronising, but I have to confess to one time getting really bent out of shape trying to hook up my headphones and eventualy realising that I hadn't set the phone to visible....ahem...)
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Later that day....
Ok - DITTO that - just tried many many times over and my HD will NOT connect to the Parrot 3200 in my car - NOT good [haven't tried the wifes car yet as I'm just too pi55ed off right now]. This unfortunately Is a deal breaker for me and I'll have to sell it on if it wont hook up (how retarded is that, even my humble ancient motorola works perfectly in the cars!)
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Just FYI/update: Soft reset - and hooked up straight away. (So if you have issues, try a soft reset)

Got my HD yesterday, was able to pair Motorola S9 BT, both in headset and A2DP and listened to podcasts via RSS HUB. Today, nothing works!!!!
Tried soft-rebooting HD and restarting headset to no avail. HELP!
blackb1ade said:
The Bluetooth [for phone/A2DP etc] in WM is pretty retarded when you compare it with phone manufacturers like motorola and nokia who have had it down perfect for years now - it's one of may major gripes with WM (and why I can't wait for Android, then some clever person can hopefully develop a BT interface that WORKS properly...anyway) - I've not tried to hook mine up to the car yet [will try tonight] but if it's any consolation my Diamond took a few go's to get hooked up as well (in both cars - seemed to prefer the Parrot unit though)
Just one thing - you DO have the bluetooth set so that it is visible to other devices right? (I know that may sound a bit patronising, but I have to confess to one time getting really bent out of shape trying to hook up my headphones and eventualy realising that I hadn't set the phone to visible....ahem...)
***EDIT:
Later that day....
Ok - DITTO that - just tried many many times over and my HD will NOT connect to the Parrot 3200 in my car - NOT good [haven't tried the wifes car yet as I'm just too pi55ed off right now]. This unfortunately Is a deal breaker for me and I'll have to sell it on if it wont hook up (how retarded is that, even my humble ancient motorola works perfectly in the cars!)
***Second Edit:
Just FYI/update: Soft reset - and hooked up straight away. (So if you have issues, try a soft reset)
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Same problem here. I was able to pair my HTC Touch HD with a JVC KW-NX7000 radio/Nav. On the display of the JVC I can see the batterypower of the HTC and the signal of my provider (Vodafone). My adresbook is transferred to the JVC, I can place a call from my JVC and then I get an error. When I turn on the screen of the HD Touch HD and then place a call on my JVC everything works fine. The problem seems to be, that the screen of the phone doesn't turn on when I place a call. When I dial a number on my phone, everything works fine.
I hope that someone has an answer to these problems.
I thought the problems had to do with the JVC but now I have my doubts.

Today I removed my bluetooth-connection and tried to make a new connection between my HTC Touch HD and the JVC KW-NX7000 radio/navigation in my car. On top of the screen of the HTC I saw two icons appear. (Left from the 3G icon)
I was surprised to see everything work, even though it was just for a short period. I could place a call from my JVC, the screen on my HTC turned on, the number was dialed and I got connected. At some point 1 of the 2 icons disappeared and again I wasn't able to make any calls from my JVC. The problem has something to do with those 2 icons which (should) appear when you make a bluetooth connection. I hope that somebody can help me with my problem.

Personally I think the bluetooth is bugged. This is what I have figured out when connecting my headset.
First time I paired everything worked fine. The paring profile was correct. There are two differnt profiles matched -1st the wireless stero and 2nd Headset
So this gives me two functions after pairing - 1 = listening music on my wirless headphones and 2 = making and recieving calls through the heahphones.
This gave me two icons - 1 being headphones with music symbol (wireless stero profile) 2 being headphones with another round symbol i cant make out (for the headset profile)
After you disconnect both the phone and headset the problems start. I turn on the blueooth on phone and headset, but I only get one symbol appear and thats the second one. This means i can use to make recieve call but not listen to music.
After along time messing about i found out that if you go back into the bluetooth device profiles and remove the tick for wirless stero and save config - then go back in and re-tick and then save evething starts working again until you disconnect again
I now have to do the remove tick and add tick everytime I want to use my bluetooth headset which is annoying. Thats why im conviced there are problems, so becareful when you setup as it might be working first time but you wont know unless u check it straight away on the initial pairing

james00000007 said:
Personally I think the bluetooth is bugged. This is what I have figured out when connecting my headset.
First time I paired everything worked fine. The paring profile was correct. There are two differnt profiles matched -1st the wireless stero and 2nd Headset
So this gives me two functions after pairing - 1 = listening music on my wirless headphones and 2 = making and recieving calls through the heahphones.
This gave me two icons - 1 being headphones with music symbol (wireless stero profile) 2 being headphones with another round symbol i cant make out (for the headset profile)
After you disconnect both the phone and headset the problems start. I turn on the blueooth on phone and headset, but I only get one symbol appear and thats the second one. This means i can use to make recieve call but not listen to music.
After along time messing about i found out that if you go back into the bluetooth device profiles and remove the tick for wirless stero and save config - then go back in and re-tick and then save evething starts working again until you disconnect again
I now have to do the remove tick and add tick everytime I want to use my bluetooth headset which is annoying. Thats why im conviced there are problems, so becareful when you setup as it might be working first time but you wont know unless u check it straight away on the initial pairing
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Got excactly the same problem. Tried A2DPToggle but that thoes not work on my T-HD. Hope someby knows a tool or an answer for this.

absolutely agree , bluetooth is buggy !!!
sometimes I am loosing the connection to my car , sometimes it worked fine for hours , sometimes only for minutes
if I am listening to music (ds980) and receive a call, the connection to hear music is lost after closing the call
if I have some longer calls, sometimes the connection drops
so at the moment bluetooth @ HD is absolutely not stable !

buggy BT still happening?
Had issues with Nokia E71 randomly dropping/reconecting BT ... sometimes dropping during a call ... sold it on eBay
Brought Omnia i900 - Voice over BT headset does not work ... (but now a fix has been found over at modaco.com so happy)
was seriously looking at touch HD but will not if this thread is correct as sick of paying out good $$$ and finding a must have feature is not working
Q. has a fix been found or is BT still buggy
thanks

Bluetooth Problem
I think the problem may have something to do with multi-function devices (make and receive calls + stream music) I'm having problems with my Jabra
SP700 ,pairs no problem , 2 icons in top bar , can make calls and play music. Switch off phone or Jabra and then reconnect I can only make calls, no music, even though the 2 icons are displayed in top bar. I also have a Sony Erricson external speaker and a pair of Sony headphones both of which work fine no problem. Is this something that can be fixed with updated bluetooth drivers for HD?