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BMW Universal Phone Interface

Hello,
does anyone here drive a recent BMW that has the Bluetooth phone interface (essentially a bluetooth headset built into the car)? If yes, are you able to use it with an XDA-II?
I can't seem to bond the device with the car - the phone thinks it's done it, but the car just shows "BLUETOOTH PAIRING" and when I try to place a call the phone asks for the passkey and goes through what seems like a successful pairing process - but it does not actually work. The "BMW ULF wants to bond, enter passkey" message keeps appearing and appearing after every seemingly successful bonding attempt.
Anyone?
Marton

bmw bt
with the kind of money you paid for that car, the salesman should come over and do the pairing for you.

I remember reading somthing on this subjet on the forum.
Search the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4258&highlight=bmw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3981&highlight=bmw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5029&highlight=bmw
cheers

Thanks guys! I guess I'm out of luck then.
I tried to use a spare Nokia 6600 I had lying around and I got a bit further, but it's still unusable. The Nokia bonds perfectly, I can call with the car's interface, incoming calls ring in the car's speakers - but whenever the call is answered only the phone's speakers and mic work...
Apparently not only does the XDA-II not support the handsfree profile (if you think about it, why should it? it would be a surprise if ANYTHING BT-related worked on it) but the Nokia 6600 is screwed up too.
I guess I'll have to get a Nokia 6310. That's one of the the recommended phones by BMW:
http://www.circlebmw.com/parts/blue/phones.htm
I just thought that since I had a "universal phone kit" in the car it was supposed to work with any recent BT phone. Universal? That list above is shockingly short.

Have you installed the latest version of bluetooth tools?

Well, Bluetooth tools actually made things worse. It still wouldn't bond correctly with the car, but after that it kept connecting and re-connecting to my PC every few seconds, even when BT was off! (It seemed to turn itself on automatically after a few minutes.) The TDK systray notification was driving me crazy. Getting rid of BT Tools solved this partucular problem.
How is the new MDA-II ROM (1.72) in regards to Bluetooth? I hear that some bonding problems have been solved - is the handsfree profile supported yet? I'm tempted to upgrade but given that it's just a beta and it's hard to go back if I end up disliking it is discouraging.

bluetooth switches itself off!!!

Using the Touch HD with a builtin bluetooth car kit. Everything works fine, the phone's contact list displays on the screen of the car. The pairing went fine. Call history works. Happy me. But occasionally i notice after making a call via the car (after hangup) the connection disappears and i check the phone. Bluetooth is switched off!!! How can this be? Are there any settings i have missed?
Any other users experience this?

same here with my bt handsfree

what if you connect it to powersupply ?
with power : working
without power : after some minutes off
sometimes I can not access the contactlist, stop the car, remove the key, start again and it works
There is something wrong with BT + car

I've had my HD a couple of days and use it with the built in BT in my Audi. The car displayed "telephone is not connected" and when I checked the phone, no BT icon. I've had problems in the past with other makes not working very well like this and was thinking it was going to be the same here... As I was getting annoyed a call came in, rang for about half a ring on the phone then it reconnected to the car and continued ringing there, answered the call just fine.
Since then it's done the same thing twice, I'd prefer it didn't but it hasn't actually caused a problem yet.

BT shuts off by itself.
I seem to be having the same problem in my Audi Q7. It does not make a difference weather to be connected to a power supply or not.

Im having the same issue here, in my A4 Cab with integrated UHV 0420
Strange thing is, it doesnt disconnect from my works Parrott kit.
It does turn off the Bluetooth on the phone, strange. It didnt happen for the first week though.
Any ideas?
Bloke

same here. having problems with my Land Rover LR2. first week, there were no problems. now, the phone doesn't automatically connect when i start the car, i have t manually connect it by pressing the phone button on my dashboard. it then connects with no problem. however, when i try to place a call, it automatically disconnects the bluetooth.
not sure if this is a problem with the htc or my car; i have to try another phone with the car first.

Same happens in my Lamboughini and also my Mercedes- Benz E Class.
Looks like I'll just have to stick with my roller from now on!!!!

I see I'm not the only one with this problem. Soooo...... anyone got a fix?

Please, at least have you checked for a few seconds after the disconnect to see what happened ??
Well, I have a BMW S1 with in-car bluetooth. I previously owned an S200, SE K800i and a Touch Pro and never got any problems with those phones.
With HD Touch I also have the same problems like you people, but 2 or 3 seconds later the BMW regain the connection with my HD.
So, for me this is no big deal. If this only happens to me, then I'm the first to apologize my introduction on this post, if not... lol

Im sure its not related, but I installed the hotfix for the TF3d earlier and I didnt have any disconnects on the way home....... ????? Go HTC.....
Bloke

yesterday i installed the hotfix from htc, but today i lost bluetooth connection again in the car. The bluetooth in the car keeps functioning, but the bluetooth on the HD has deactivated itself! With my previous sony ericsson phone (also bluetoot 2.0) i didn't have this problem. So i think it's related to the bluetoothsoftware on the HD.

bloke said:
Im sure its not related, but I installed the hotfix for the TF3d earlier and I didnt have any disconnects on the way home....... ????? Go HTC.....
Bloke
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I spoke too soon, it disconnected this morning and didnt reconnect....
Bloke

Have a look at this thread - also bluetooth problems with pairing issues - looks like BT maybe bugged
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442987&highlight=bluetooth+problems

Hello,
I have the same problem. I can not really use bluetooth in my car, because the Touch HD ends the connection after a few minutes (most times after less than five minutes).
Without a connection to the car, bluetooth will not be ended by the Touch HD, so it seems to be a problem of a connection to a bluetooth headset or a problem of a connection only to a car bluetooth "headset".
Regards
Thomas

Does this only apply to original built-in bluetooth kits and not after-market kits?
My BT-radio does not have problems with the Touch HD, but it is an after-market radio.

Same problem here. My connections drops also. I drive an Opel Zafira with builtin bluetooth carkit. Bluetooth is turned off after a while.
I've noticed when i start the car a connection is made and a few seconds later bluetooth is turned off and immediatly turned on again. After it's turned on, the connection is stable for a while. A few moments later it turns off again. Then i have turn the bluetooth connection manually.
Today i had a phone confercation for a half hour. The connection stayed stable. When i hang up the phone, the connection dropped .
Can the synchronisation of the phonebook be the problem? I had this problem with my p3600. After installing Jetware, the problem was solved. I've installed Jetware on my HD, but with no luck .
Is there a way to log the bluetooth communication. May be it tell us more

Indeed the HD bluetooth seems to be poor, I also experienced bluetooth switching off by it self when trying to pair with my Motorola S9 headphones, I have the hotfix installed, before I didn't notice this bluetooth behavior.
Also when exiting Opera the phone hangs, not always but sometimes

Anyone solved the problem yet
I send a email to HTC support. Hopefully they can help. If they answer......word goes arround that htc support sucks

still don't have a solution.........

Htc Hero Bluetooth Car Kit

Hello
I am trying to get my Hero to connect with my Lexus RX400h's bluetooth car-kit. I can pair the Hero with the car but it will not reconnect. Is there a way to authorize the Hero to alway reconnect without having to re-pair?
Any help would be great.
Thanks
Jon

It should remember it. I've never had a problem with my own bluetooth kit.

I get paired but not connected with my thb bury kit there are lots of posts on here about bluetoth issues 5 series bmws also have problems, htc support say they are waiting for an update from google

I'll add the Range Rover Sport to the list of cars with bluetooth issues.
I can connect OK, but as soon as the phone is connected it disables the phone keypad on the car dashboard so I can't use it to access voicemail and other menus.
Worked fine with my Diamond and Touch HD

Toyota TNS 510 carkit wont work either. It pairs ok, it even pairs the A2DP system. When pairing is finished a little message appears on the phone saying there was a problem with the bluetooth handfree thingy.

andy2111 said:
I'll add the Range Rover Sport to the list of cars with bluetooth issues.
I can connect OK, but as soon as the phone is connected it disables the phone keypad on the car dashboard so I can't use it to access voicemail and other menus.
Worked fine with my Diamond and Touch HD
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What model year is your RRS ? My MY08 D3 works fine with the Hero... contact list navigation is far better than my 'old' Nokia N85. If your RRS is pre MY2008 there is an ECU update for the Bluetooth PTI I believe.

I'll add a Jaguar XF to the list. Hero will pair ok, then it will disconnect. it will disconnect a few times before it settles down. Whenever it tries to auto-connect, it will disconnect 2 or three times before it stays connected. sometimes it wont connect at all, a quick disable, then re-enable of bluetooh on the hero then gets it to connect again.
Didnt have any problems with any BlackBerry's, Touch Diamond, Nokia e52. Looks like we're waiting on Google for a fix. I wonder if their continual beta policy applies to updates as well as full blown applications?

Peugeot 407 SW ('07)- Pairing okay, connects okay too. On phone call the radio is muted, call picked up (on incoming), but the sound keeps coming through ear piece for 4-5 sec and then it eventually switches to speakers.
HTC cust support not very supportive... pointing me to go to the car manufacturer for support... :s

The Hero and/or Android does not support the bluetooth stack's remote Sim Access Profile (rSAP/SAP) required by many car kits (VAG, Lexus etc.). This might be the issue here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.29

Let your car do the pairing
Turn bluetooth on your phone and let your car discover and pair with the phone. Your carkit will suggest the passcode enter it in you phone and not the other way arround. That might work, It did for my Porshe.

How do you transfer bluetooth contacts??
Hi. I have my bluetooth car kit working fine, it is with a pioneer head unit. At first i would have to manually connect it, as the phone can only be made visible fo 120 seconds. Hoever after doing this 5 or 6 times, it then automatically conected every time. Just keep trying and see if it eventually does it.
Also.... How do you transfer your contacts lists to the bluetooth device?? I cannot find anyway!! please help!!

No Go on the Mazda 3
just bought a 2010 Mazda 3 sport and the bluetooth does not work with hero.
it pairs with the phone and then occasionally connects. however when you dial a number by voice or keypad the system in the car locks up completely for about 4 mins. tried other phones and works perfect.
Strange thing is it did work once for a day but then went all haywire after that.
would rooting the phone and installing a different rom open up the bluetooth any more so it can communicate better.
Dont want to get rid of the phone but unless i can find a remedy im gonna have to get a different phone.

I have Lexus ES350 2007, It's paired and auto connect with no issue! I have a tiny issue with incoming call in navi screen it display "not supported" instead of caller name!
Also it ringing in my Hero for 4 seconds then it ringing in my car?!
Thanks

Sorted
Well ive sorted th bluetooth problem.
once paired as long as i dont turn off bluetooth on the phone then it connects / reconnects just fine. if i do turn bluetooth profile off then when pairing i need to make phone visible before i get in the car and it picks it up again.
sorted.

2010 Mazda 3 and HTC Hero Bluetooth
Have the exact same problem as Wingy999 and if I leave the bluetooth switched on on the phone I have no problem.
But if I do switch it off/restart the phone, even if I make the phone visible when I get in the car, it does not connect and I have to delete and repair the phone to the car.
Can you help wingy999?

Yes/No
Well its a case of Yes it is and No it isnt.
Sometimes, for a few days i have no problems with phone. Then for no reason it decides to connect (picture of the phone on dash) but it cant communicate with the car. So when you dial it just hangs the system.
Got sick of pairing it to be honest so have left it for now. i wondering if rooting the phone might be a way forward.

yeah, no clue if rooting will help, but im def waiting for it to be possible. lots of cool things that can be done.
the bluetooth problem is to do with the android bluetooth api itself from what i understand. google haven't figured it out entirely yet and so only released it with basic functionality. even once modders are able to get inside the cdma hero, i dont think they can get at the low level bluetooth functionality and make changes. I could be wrong, but if it were the case, we'd see things like obex object transfer available on the GSM Hero's already.

I also have the same problem with my 2010 Mazda 3 and my sprint HTC hero.
I am probably going to have to return the phone. I was hoping for an update or a fix.
It is critical that the bluetooth feature works.
Another annoyance is that I cannot turn the bluetooth streaming audio. Even though the car and phone both have this feature, I do not want it on. I want to be able to turn on bluetooth for phone but not bluetooth streaming audio.
The HTC touch pro 2 (windows mobile) could turn each of the 2 bluetooth services off independently (and worked for both), the HTC Hero does not allow this (and doesn't work with the car anyway).
Huge thumbs down for an otherwise great phone.

My issue is with a Jabra SP700 Bluetooth speakerphone. My phone is paired, is detected and the phone even says 'Bluetooth Headset Connected'.
However, sound is not routed to the speakerphone, it just comes out of the phone speaker...
FYI I'm running MCR 2.8.

BMW 1 series 08 and HERO
Before I buy an HTC Hero does anyone know if it will work with my BMW 1 series

Bluetooth and S9 issues on 2.73 ROM

Hi
I have the T-Mobile G2 Touch and a Motorola S9 headphones. Using the Origianl Stock T-Mobile ROM i have had no issues with bluetooth.
BUT
using the generic 2.73 ROM i have issues with connecting to the headset
It will connect, then instantly disconnect, then try to connect again, at which point it fails to connect properly
To Reproduce:
Using a HTC Hero & 2.73 ROM
Pair your S9's with the Hero
then Turn off the S9's and Bluetooth
Then turn on Bluetooth, and the S9's with the Bluetooth Settings up
you will see it say "Connected with Media", "Paired but not Connected", then "Connecting......." at which point it will fail
I have tried all the different radio versions to make sure it isnt a issue with the radio, but the same problem prevails.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this issue? or what is causing it?

I also had issues with an unlocked Hero and a Sennheiser MM200 headset. Worked perfectly on original rom, but very fiddly to setup with the 2.73 rom.
The only way I can get them to work properly with the phone is to:
1) Make sure headset is turned off, as well as bluetooth on phone
2) Turn on headset
3) Then turn on bluetooth on phone
Headset connects as normal - any other sequence doesn't work.

I have tried this, and it doesnt seem to work. I have been trying it for the last hour.
While in Bluetooth Settings it says its connected with media, then is disconnects, then it trys to connect again, and then it just says "Connecting.........." for ages
The Headset light flashes as if it was connected.

I also had problems connecting MM200. I could connect it, but then it kinda stuck when i was pressing play button.
But then i decided to check my old sony ericsson bluetooth headset - it was working normally. And after that the MM200 also was working. One wonders.
Still i've noticed some stuttering problems when song starts. And it seems to start with faster tempo and then slow down after 10 seconds to normal speed (could be related to that stuttering? Trying to compensate for the lost time or something). No issues when i'm listening to wired headphones - so it must either something with hero bluetooth or MM200.
I have to check how it works with my old headset, but i'm kinda afraid of having MM200 connection problems again.

Ok
i will keep playing around. i have some CX-300II coming next week so i have a backup plan if i cant get the bluetooth stuff working properly
Thanks for your help

raywiper said:
I also had problems connecting MM200. I could connect it, but then it kinda stuck when i was pressing play button.
But then i decided to check my old sony ericsson bluetooth headset - it was working normally. And after that the MM200 also was working. One wonders.
Still i've noticed some stuttering problems when song starts. And it seems to start with faster tempo and then slow down after 10 seconds to normal speed (could be related to that stuttering? Trying to compensate for the lost time or something). No issues when i'm listening to wired headphones - so it must either something with hero bluetooth or MM200.
I have to check how it works with my old headset, but i'm kinda afraid of having MM200 connection problems again.
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I think the speeding up / slowing down and stuttering is more to do with the Hero - I have tried the headset connected to a laptop and there is no problem whatsoever. Hopefully the next Android update will improve the bluetooth problems.

not compatible with new mazda 3
Well the hero is probably the best phone ive had and ive had many many phones over the years including the jesus phone which was pants.
Well ive just bought a new mazda 3 and unfortunately the hero does not like connecting to the car via bluetooth. tried all sorts. sometimes it works but usually only for a couple of times and then manages to lock the car radio up.
So its bye bye hero for me as i need a compatable phone for my car. looks like its back to nokia...shame as i really love the phone

Bluetooth carkit (audi factory)

I'm having much fun with my new Legend, and I love android 2.1!
Everythings goes smooth except the connection with my car.
I have a pretty new Audi TT from 2008, and with my old phone (t-mobile G1), I used it without a problem for over a year.
One month ago I bought the Legend, and bluetooth connection to the car seems to hang!, Even when I disable bluetooth, the phone becomes slow, and the bluetooth icoon keeps displaying in my notification erea.
One thing works, when I reset the phone, I can use the carkit for about 10 minutes, then it starts to disconnect. The adress book never syncs.
Can people please reply if they got their legend work properly with their bluetooth car kit.
Also when other people have problems, please reply here!
Thnx

I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).

Same problem here. Kenwood DDX7029 with BT. 5 out of 10 times the phone won't connect when starting the car. Dis- and enabling BT does the trick.

David67 said:
I have a mini cooper S with BT car kit.
The connection is good and all the contats are correctly transferred but sometimes the connection has been lost.
It seems it happens during the net switch (between UMTS/GSM).
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This implies that if you disable data-roaming, it would work all the time?, I'm gonna try that out! Thanks for your reply!

Hi there. My first post in XDA
So cool that I found this thread because I have the exact same problem. I have an Audi A3 and the bluetooth connection is 9 out of 10 times lost during conversations and then the bluetooth icon just hangs until I boot the phone.
I'm gonna try to disable the data-roaming and see whether it works.

Still problem carkit/bluetooth Legend!!
Hi all,
I still/also experience problems with my Audi A4 carkit.
Also my colleague with a Opel Insignia experiencing the same problems.
I have to reset the bluetooth or reboot the phone te fix it
It is very annoying when you loose the bluetooth connection within a call.
I have already sent a message to HTC...and still waiting!
Switching off the data roaming or fix the UMTS/GSM settings doesn't help
Somebody a sollution?
Br Dide

Audi UHV 6654 problems
I have a BIG problem with this car kit connection...BIG means the device is useless till now.
I've paired the Legend with my A4 factory car kit and there are several problems:
1. No sounds come from the speakers (car speakers), still the michrophone is working fine. I had to put the phone on loudspeaker to hear something but of course this is not the normal way of using a car kit
2. There is no sound till the call is actually ongoing (the other party respond)...that means no ringing, busy tone, or whatsoever sound... I don't even know if the call is made if I'm not looking to the phone (and if it's entering power saving mode, I stare at a blank screen).
I don't have any problems of this kind using a Nokia phone and also they (especially point 2) are happening with all smartphones I've tried (WinMo or Android ones).
Is there any software (even a paid one) to outcome this?
Please don't tell me to "try" this and that, I don't want to spend money "trying" things...I would appreciate if someone had a similar problem and managed to solve it somehow.
P.S The phone is brand new (got it for 2 days by now) and it is not rooted.
P.S.2 The car kit is a "basic" one, don't have navigation, contacts downloading and all that stuff...It's a plain BT car kit, I would just like to be able to make and receive phone calls with it.

Seems like many have bad experience in making the legend and car kit work together.
As of yet I could only pair my legend with my blaupunkt audio system, but they have not yet connected each other successfully to make use of the bluetooth feature. I've had no problem at all using my audio set with my samsung galaxy spica's bluetooth. So it probably is not an android issue.
Is there anyone who didn't experience any such trouble with their legend and car audio system's bluetooth ?

To add some more details...
I search for BT devices, phone finds the Audi UHV car kit. Then I'm asked for the pairing password and I enter it, than I get that "connection sound" from the car speakers but the phone is still "connecting..." endlessly. The BT icon on the phone appears but is the standard one, no headset or car kit icon appears (does it have such an icon after all?)
From here...nothing special happens. When I make or receive a call only the phone is ringing, no sounds came from the car speakers. Only when the call is connected, then I have the bord computer showing "Call..." and the radio/CD is muted...and that's all. The conversation can be heard only into the phone not from car speakers as it was the case with the ringing tone before. When call ends, music resumes.