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Wierd spkr prob with xda2.. plus take apart pics (56k Warn!)

As I've been lurking for a while, I thought I would sign up and ask a question as well as donate something in the way of pics as I noticed other members asking..
My xda2 loses it's speaker function a few minutes after I reset it.. I've done hard and soft resets, flashed another rom (127.181 currently), cleaned and checked speaker connection and it still loses all sound after a couple of mins. I'm sure it must be software problem, but what?? anyone got any ideas? I've read back through a lot of threads here but no joy with what I've tried so far.
These pics are me taking my xda2 apart to clean the contacts and thought I would photo my progress, excuse my camera and PS skills, not that clever, hope they are of some use to members;
There's 6 intial screws to remove after taking off back and battery:
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This is how I removed the antenna cover using a thin screwdriver:
Second phase of lifting antenna cover:
The two Torx 6 screws holding on the antenna:
Removing the back, stage 1
Removing the back, stage 2
General board layout, highlighting the 3 very small crosshead screws you need to remove:
Showing Audio connector, This can cause 'contact' problems when headphones are removed:
On board battery, showing you what needs de-soldering if you have to replace it:
The screen connecting cable.. NOTE how it is butted up to the white part of the connector:
Raising the board over, observe anti static caution (Unlike me lol):
Lower section of the board:
Microphone assembly:
Speaker assembly:
Side switches:
Just a caution when re-assembling!:

Update: after playing with the xda2 all day, I've realised it loses sound when it goes into standby.. if I soft reset the sound is fine untill it goes into standby, then when I press the power button to wake it, there's no sound again?! Can't understand it as I reflashed with image from o2 site as well. Maybe a registry setting, but I'm not that clued up as to how to look at the registry, let alone know what I'm looking for. I'm running MS pocket pc version 4.20.0 (Build 14053). Thanks

Hi Scratch, i experience this problem before, when i broke my CONNECTORS (21 pin), i also did disassemble my XDA 2 and cleaned the speaker terminals,but to no avail. I think the Connectors has something to do with the speaker sounds. Have you tried using your headphone or headset? had you recently dropped your XDA 2 with the charger connector on it? Maybe there could be some pin desoldered from the motherboard. check it.

Please can anybody post the pictures, how to unscrew O2 XDA Neo or Mini, I-mate jamin, i-mat jam, any one with this shape

Thx u scratch i was open my device,but i really dont know how to change backup battery (Pic9),do you tell me more how to remove backup pin!Thx u

Resistance (Ohms) across working Microphone
Next time somebody has their Himalaya apart, I'd appreciate it if they could take the time to measure the resistance (Ohms) across their working microphone. I'm trying to troubleshoot a broken mic. and I'm not sure if it's the mic. itself or something else.
I was getting by just fine using the "wired" jack, however, I managed to break the jack in two. Since this happened after the mic. quit, I'm more inclined to think its the mic. itself. I've ruled out a software problem and I've taken the phone apart once already to clean the mic. contacts. Does anybody have any ideas?

The Funniest Thing Just Happened

I had my Universal in my back pocket when I sat on the car's seat. I felt it there right away so I got off the car and checked on the Universal, the screen'd gonr white with some colored lines! The phone was fully functional except for the screen.
Today I check the coxial cable but got nothing. Tried to play around just doing things with no luck.
I was hopeless, thought I'd pay loads for the screen. I went nuts and started to smack it on my desk. Guess what happened, it worked again!
I was like shocked and happy to see the screen back on ! I'm gonna check on it now, rotate the screen and so, lets see if it stays alive.
Cheers.

Try it again mate. If it works, we can add it to the wiki

good job!, I know a story like this!
my friend was playing with his Universal while breathing some fresh air out
then suddenly...ooooooooooooooooo
the Universal made its way down from the 2nd floor...
ofcourse after collecting its pieces (SD card, Battery cover, Battery, SIM, Stylus)...
going up and turn it on and its working! but with the same problem (white screen with color lines)....
my friend was pissed off..so he began to hit the desk near the device and the screen re-worked again!
and the device never went to the service until now...
this happened 6 months before!
the only things that left..some scratches and the broken cover!
strong Universal

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A story with a happy ending. Serendipity.
V

If you take a look at the Lcd screen on a universal there are connectors around the corners of the screen (probably find a pic on ebay).
My universal had a problem with a blue tint on the screen but with a squeeze near the upper left of the screen i heard a click and the problem went away.
chances are a swift bang may be resitting the connectors. you might want to try squeezing the corners either side of the screen before resulting to more extreme techniques.
Of course you could remove the covers and be sure of getting good connections

blackest_knight said:
If you take a look at the Lcd screen on a universal there are connectors around the corners of the screen (probably find a pic on ebay).
My universal had a problem with a blue tint on the screen but with a squeeze near the upper left of the screen i heard a click and the problem went away.
chances are a swift bang may be resitting the connectors. you might want to try squeezing the corners either side of the screen before resulting to more extreme techniques.
Of course you could remove the covers and be sure of getting good connections
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Just don't squeeze the corner too hard. I'm now looking for a new screen as I've got the dreaded 'bleeding ink' across the right-hand corner of mine.
Anyone know of a supplier of new screens?

MONGO Smashh!!!...............hmmmm Mongo fix
if it doubt whack the fker i say
p.s the above advice does not extended to women,children or bosses
p.p.s it can have a 50-50 chance of working on cars i find,but louder swearing does help

On an old PDA, I had one of them WiFi SD card thingies.
It was so temperamental and I thought it might have been the contacts or something.
Anyway, I took the WiFi SD apart and put the bare circuit board in the slot, it kinda got stuck, but that also made funny colours come on the screen.

Weird problem with buttons on screen part.

Hi!
I got a weird problem. Seems like the buttons on the screen part have some problems.
When I press some of the button on Universal screen don't work but instead
the up button keep pressed, not phisically but logical.
It's annoyning because I must reset it to back a normal function.
I opened the screen part I checked and made some pression all over the conecctions, without the
back case worked ok, but when I put the back case on the screen the problem returns.
Please any ideas, solutions.
Thanx again, greeting from Chile

I have the same problem. If I rotate the screen around a bit the buttons work fine, but if the screen is on straight the buttons sometimes just keep on going.
I thought it's a faulty cable between the main body and the screen part, but seeing how it works for you maybe it's a connector problem? I bought a new cable and will see if it helps. Mine has a screen color issue too (screens is blueish).

patrickl said:
I have the same problem. If I rotate the screen around a bit the buttons work fine, but if the screen is on straight the buttons sometimes just keep on going.
I thought it's a faulty cable between the main body and the screen part, but seeing how it works for you maybe it's a connector problem? I bought a new cable and will see if it helps. Mine has a screen color issue too (screens is blueish).
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I tried to identify what the problem is, but I didn't find anything. I tried pressing the conecctor to the buttons parts , I cleaned the pins, pulled the flex cable, and nothing ....sometimes it worked and sometimes not. Whatever I will to exchange or replace with another.

Grilloman said:
I tried to identify what the problem is, but I didn't find anything. I tried pressing the conecctor to the buttons parts , I cleaned the pins, pulled the flex cable, and nothing ....sometimes it worked and sometimes not. Whatever I will to exchange or replace with another.
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Sounds like a cable break too. I think with mine it went wrong when I turned the screen too far. Somehow the rotation was not blocked anymore and I think it got twisted too tight and the wires in the flex cable were damaged. Wiggling the screen would help sometimes, but the problem deteriorated over time.
I finally received the new flex cable I ordered. I paid 44 GBP (66 EUR) for the flex cable to a company in Hong Kong. I think they are raising the prices of these cables, because I thought I saw them for 30 to 40 euro earlier.
Installing this new flex cable indeed got rid of the problem with the buttons and the problem with the blue color of the screen. Both problems rendered the PDA practically useless and now it's working again.
Unfortunately I somehow managed to break the camera. It says "failed to initialize" when I start the camera software I looked it up and people claim it could be caused by dropping the PDA, but I guess completely taking it apart and putting it back together might cause the problem too
To replace the cable I needed to take the PDA completely apart:
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:edit: Wow I checked ebay and the only flex cable seller i could find asks $119 for it. They are really becoming more and more expensive or perhaps I just didn't search properly.
:edit2: The store where I bought it still has some for sale for 39GBP

DAMN IT!!!!! Dropped my Hermes

I dont beleive this BS i dropped my lovable phone on the floor and now my keyboard is being tempermental!!!! it sometimes works find but other times it dosn't GRRRR!!!! The keys that are effected are the F key the dot key the delete key and a few others help!!!!!!!!
Andi

Andi1985 said:
I dont beleive this BS i dropped my lovable phone on the floor and now my keyboard is being tempermental!!!! it sometimes works find but other times it dosn't GRRRR!!!! The keys that are effected are the F key the dot key the delete key and a few others help!!!!!!!!
Andi
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With any luck it's just the keyboard connector that's a bit loose. It's just under the back cover so no major dismantling:
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Mike

Sorry.
How high was the fall?
I've dropped mine many times on all sorts of surfaces and still kickin... If you saw the condition of my 6 month old 8525 you'd shiver
No help to offer. :|

Do what mike says, mines taken many a tumble and i've had to set the keyboard connector and the front camera back in place twice now.

Just as the thread states....I DROPPED MY HERMES!!!!
Assessing the damage, part of my keyboard popped out slightly. It popped back into place, but while using the phone, if I close the sliding keyboard, my phone will freeze. Or in other words loss of power. If the keyboard is not closed all the way, I can use my phone. If I carefully close the keyboard, I sometimes can use the phone. A small bump will result in loss of power.
I believe I have a loose connection somewhere. I am going to take Mike's suggestion to look at the keyboard connection. Does anyone have any other ideas I should check?

Giving an update. I opened up my Hermes to find the battery connector has broken off. I did more searching on the forums about this very issue. Hopefully resoldering the connections will work. Understand that the board has many layers and a may have damaged the connection internally. Will have to see. Luckily, I have a friend who works on all sorts of digital components for installing and repair. Hopefully this is the ONLY problem and not just one of many!

WildnMN said:
Giving an update. I opened up my Hermes to find the battery connector has broken off. I did more searching on the forums about this very issue. Hopefully resoldering the connections will work. Understand that the board has many layers and a may have damaged the connection internally. Will have to see. Luckily, I have a friend who works on all sorts of digital components for installing and repair. Hopefully this is the ONLY problem and not just one of many!
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Funnily enough i did make a post suggesting a problem with the battery connector - but you may know the site was hacked and we lost some posts from Sunday.
Anyway, let's hope it has just broken the surface solder joints and all will be well.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Funnily enough i did make a post suggesting a problem with the battery connector - but you may know the site was hacked and we lost some posts from Sunday.
Anyway, let's hope it has just broken the surface solder joints and all will be well.
Mike
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Thanks Mike,
I had thought there was a post on this. I tried searching for it with no luck. Regardless, my friend was able to solder the surface joints and I am back up and running!

WildnMN said:
Thanks Mike,
I had thought there was a post on this. I tried searching for it with no luck. Regardless, my friend was able to solder the surface joints and I am back up and running!
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Great news, good result
Mike

Don't try this with your Universal :P

This was my second Uni and.... don't try this at home
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Wow!
That is a hard picture
What happened?

Come on, what happened? Wow sorry I was not to go with his car on top?
Стига бе,какво се случи?Мале жал ми става,да не му мина с колата отгоре?

What Happen????

This is all about for one bad call, and I really pissed off....
First smashed it in to a wall (it survives), next one was a 8kg dumbbell on it, after this one it's still running, and finally I really got angry and separate the lcd from main unit.
The LCD is working and it's OK !!! PCB works also, but the USB port is smashed, and some other things inside, of course the housing is smashed up and the flex cable is gone too.
Universal = undead

WOW poor uni

Win_XP said:
This is all about for one bad call, and I really pissed off....
First smashed it in to a wall (it survives), next one was a 8kg dumbbell on it, after this one it's still running, and finally I really got angry and separate the lcd from main unit.
The LCD is working and it's OK !!! PCB works also, but the USB port is smashed, and some other things inside, of course the housing is smashed up and the flex cable is gone too.
Universal = undead
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I think this definitely comes under the heading of OTT...

You must be really pissed off to do that to your Uni
Hope you are not pissed off anymore

Dude, thats like crazy

Oh god,... your so cruel!!

Can you send me the Display unit?
I have a second uni at home with a broken lcd but otherwise it is in perfect working order.
I would like to repaire the second uni so i can have one on stock in case something happens to my uni.
If you would considder to send me the display unit, please contact me on PM so we can proceed to the details :-D:-D:-D
Oh.....that was some anger

Peter V8 said:
Can you send me the Display unit?
I have a second uni at home with a broken lcd but otherwise it is in perfect working order.
I would like to repaire the second uni so i can have one on stock in case something happens to my uni.
If you would considder to send me the display unit, please contact me on PM so we can proceed to the details :-D:-D:-D
Oh.....that was some anger
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Hi, sorry but I will repair my Uni soon as I can

Buy one of this:

I can tell you what you need to do, where to get parts and how much it will cost. But believe me, you don't want to know.

So how much would a display cost?
I have a second perfectly working uni at home but as i told earlier it has a broken display.

sad
please switch phone ASAP receive bad call, Uni is our love

what pissed you off so bad you snapped THREE TIMES AND TRIED TO KILL THE BEST PHONE IN EXISTANCE.
buy an iphone if you're going to beat it to death man.
seriouslythough, what happend lmfao