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There was a thread here about that the voice from the earpiece is distorted. I experienced to have a similar problem. From the first day the sound was excellent but in 2 months it changed to distorted and then become very-very weak. At the same time the sound was good if a loudspeaker is on or if the hands-free is connected. Thus, I supposed that the contact becomes bad. To fix it, I disassembled the device. The *.pdf-file how to do that is included (33 megs). When the contacts were formed so they touch firmly the corresponding places on the printed board and the device was assembled, I heard nice voice from the earpiece.
So, in some cases the problem with the sound may be due to weak contacts. I suppose the contacts may become poor because the material for the outputs on the earpiece is not so elastic plus influence of vibration from the vibromotor plus influence of humidity.
Backup the system before disassembly because during this the backup battery may discharge completely!
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Thanks a lot I got this problem long time ago but I don't know how to disassemble it so I always try to shake it to fix ......
Great ! Very useful
Thanks
thanks for the guide..... very useful
Where can I find the 33meg pdf? I need to disassemble the device too...
regards
That is what I thought th first time I opened my MDA Compact! Believe me I am the very first one I did when the device first came out! After lots of research let me tell you this:
IT IS NOT THE CONTACTS! IT IS THE SPEAKER! The membrane is of low quality when you open the device and "fixing" the contacts it will only make it to work for a few phone calls up to a couple of days at most! The speaker is burnt by the high amount of volume the motherboard of JAM gives to the speaker! If you want to solve your problem then you ll have to find a Nokia Center and buy a speaker for a Nokia 6610! Nokia 6610 and HTC Magician have exactly the same speaker! The only thing you have to do is to change nokia's black cloth ribbon on the top of the speaker with HTC's black rubber get it into your magician and there you are! You have a perfect sound again! My only advise is to use the call volume just a click less than the maximum volume so you won't blow away your new speaker!
I dissasembled and reassembled my MDA compact more than 11 times trying fixing the contacts with no permanent result! After replacing the speaker with a Nokias's 6610 speaker everything seems to work like a dream for at least a month now! :wink:
Its much more easier to get Nokia's spare parts than HTC's! The speaker cost me 18euros!
any chances you could post us nice pictures of these manipulations ?
I would love to do that but please I don't think that my magician could survive one more disassembly! :twisted: In case of replacing a friend's speaker next week who has the same problem I will make sure I get those pics! Magician is extremely easy to be taken apart! The only hard parts in the removing process are the upper backplate which has to be removed very carefully in order to be fitted back in its place afterwards and the front faceplate where you will need something very thin like a thin knife or even better a razor to take it away from the black plastic on the sides! :wink:
where is the link to the pdf
Hey guys,
I cannot see the link to the pdf. I need to disassemble my Jam too.
Thanx, Martido
Sorry, I found it. Just woke up....
Oh, thank god, I'm not the only one, with this problem. But first i have two questions? Will i loose my warrenty when i open the device? Can O² discover that i opened it?
Did this contact fix solve the problem entirely, or not? Because katsj says the problem is the speaker!
Thank you in advance, such a great community!
Bauer
Edit:
I read the PDF File and i have to say .. this is simlply impossible! You can cause so much damage .... i dont know where to begin. One small mistake and you can't forget your PDA. I think this is highly to dangerous. Is there no easier way to solve the problem ... some ideas??
Or do the pictures lie and it isnt that complicated??
Bauer
My sound disappears during call...
Strange, during a call after a few minutes my sound disappears. I can hear the other caller, the other calleer can't hear me anymore...
But now I found a strange solution: when I pull up the volume button n the left a few times (it was already at maximum!) my sound is back!
Has anyone the same experience or a better solution?
I think when you pull up the volume there is this small tone and you hear this tone from the loudspeaker.
After you hear the tone, you cant here anything again, right?
I'm driving really crazy, i loved this XDA Mini since this prob occured and i want to find a solution as soon as possible ! I really dont know what to do
When i push against sd-card slot from inside, i hear everything .. again, so this is just a really small prob ..
I hope sb. find a solution quickly otherwise ... i dont know
Bauer
JackBauer said:
I think when you pull up the volume there is this small tone and you hear this tone from the loudspeaker.
After you hear the tone, you cant here anything again, right?
I'm driving really crazy, i loved this XDA Mini since this prob occured and i want to find a solution as soon as possible ! I really dont know what to do
When i push against sd-card slot from inside, i hear everything .. again, so this is just a really small prob ..
I hope sb. find a solution quickly otherwise ... i dont know
Bauer
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I think it's a contact problem, so maybe the problem isn't that small... I don't want to open my device.
I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM or with the software.
(I wish it would, then there would be a solution in the end)
I had this problem too and found a fix:
I assume that while you are making a call, there is no audio from the earpiece. While on the call, adjust the volume up or down with the volume slider button. if you hear faint beeps and faint audio right after the beeps, your earpiece is working but there is a software glitch caused by the headphone jack.
Reset your device. Make a call (i.e. to your voicemail) and make sure there is audio incoming. Connect the (wired) headset. Disconnect the headset and you shoud now hear audio from the earpiece. You may have to reconnect/disconnect the headset a few times.
thanks
thanks for the pdf. ill check it right away!
U ROCK
THX GUYS>>>U ROCK...........I was soo worried.....
thx again..
Thanx dudes for the nokiaspeaker tip!
Just received my on ebay ordered nokia speaker and within a few minutes I fixed mine magician thanx to the pdf & already gainted knowledge on this page!
I bought this phone a year ago for a very nice price because of the damaged speaker and now at last I repeared it just for €3,- (instead of sending it to Orange risking over €100; I`m Dutch ya know )
hi guys...pulling this one out from the past....my magician has all the symptoms above, but with no luck, the replacement speaker did not do the trick...any other ideas/details/downloads....anything to get the audio back???\
BTW, i can hear glitches of sound if i play with the volume tab. That is to say, if i push it up, i hear the tone "ding" and i can hear the voice on the other end for a split second! So i must be close, no????
ok this is a bit funny
handsfree earphone works,,,but the ear phone in the mda compact doesnt work
the normal sound speaker works,,just not the phone speaker
ok it works stuttery when i press up on the slide switch and i can hear the caller kinda stuttering
wierd software rpoblem i think
its not hardware problem as the slider makes it work,,if i constantly press up o the slider but then i hear the caller and the beep beep it makes to tell you its at full volume
My qtek s110 is doing the same thing after i dropped it, could i have knocked the contacts?
Can anyone explain why the volume slider would make it work.
Cheers
I think its a hardware prob only! Cz if the volume slider is getting the sound volume increased, you guys still couldnt get the full volume right? If so, its probably the speaker or its contacts getting the problem!
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solution for no noise problems
Hey guys and girls, I also had problems with “no noise from the earpiece only.. and were puzzled with the problem for few days….until found the reason behind it.
As I am a lover with high-tech devices, I really wanted to fix this problem by myself (not prepared to pay few hundred dollars for repair from technicians).
I also want to contribute something on this site, as I have read great information’s from this site.
Here it goes.
I had this "no noise issue" problem with one of my device (have 2 sets of o2 mini) had no sound on the earpiece only (meaning speakerphone, hands free mic all works perfectly).
Now, to make everything short, I have done a great research with few personal technicians and even official technician from O2 Company and found the answers for this problem.
The fault actually lies with what is called the "Audio Daughter Board". It is a removable internal PCB that the speaker contacts to receive its audio signal from the phone. The board has a connector that is soldered to it which sits on another connector that is soldered to the main board. Both of these connectors can become removed from their respective solder connections usually as a result of a fall or physical impact. Usually all that is needed is a touch up of the solder points.
This Audio “daughter board” is connected with black connector at right hand side only, and the rest of the board with double sticky tape.
Most likely, the black connector has been disconnected to the “daughter board during drop of the device, as you need to solder the parts back (black connector has 14 legs, 7 on the left and 7 on the right) to get your earpiece sound back to normal.
I have done it, so can you (very small legs, so has to have delicate hands).
Now, mine works like a charm…. So happy…
After all, it was neither the programs, nor the legs of the earpiece, but the actual connection between the boards itself.
Hope my information helped.
Cheers
PS: I have updated my device to 2003 second edition with radio 1.13.00 but have no idea where to get pda programs. Can anyone let me know where to find such good programs?
It works!!!! Thanks
Your a genius
Hi im so happy it worked. I bought even a new speaker but this was noit the problem.
The internal speaker is now working but i found another problem with the ring tone liudness which i have to clarify now. So the serach will start again for me.
Again thanks.
Hi need help from all of u.
Hi my o2 mini have this problem, i can't hear anthing from the caller but they can hear me.may i know how to get the problem done, hope all of u can help me thank You.
bluehanul76
You really rock m8.
I was very doubfull that this would work. I have tried everything else people has suggested to no avail.
BUT I thought I have nothing to lose in trying you suggestion.
And it worked. It really worked.
Thank you very much.
Sorry for what am i going to say, maybe i did not get things clear...
How on earth can you solder the black connector both on the main motherboard and on the audio daughter board? Am just asking cause my magician had a broken earpiece and when i open it to replace it the phone died. Strange thing is that when i remove the storage card it comes alive again but no sound from the earpiece. So this solution is great although i had to make the question just to know how to handle things.
Thanks guys
Got it guys, the one connector on the main board was detached completeley and got stuck into the other. That is why i thought that it was one piece.
Man , i said to myself how come these people got it soldered , they must all have personal nano robots lol
Update:
Burned the small black connector tha sits on the main rboard
Any chance for someone to know what sort of PCB is this so i can purchase one?
Firts of anything sorry for my inglish but i´m portuguese and my inglish is a litle rusty.
I known there are a lot of people whith this problem and i had to. I tried a lot of things and i find a solution. The major problem of the this is that the black conector don´t conect very well whith audio bord, and i do a trick, so i thake a litle peace of cotton roll in powertape (like one that is on back of keybord) and a put it as way that when e close it make pressure in de audio border conector(in left of earpiece) agaist de front cover.
I hope I can help
enduromen
i have the same problem, and i will try to do as instructed. if it succeed everyone have a drink on me
Hello.
I have the same problem ina Qtek s100 but , like I dont know very well how to do look for the hardware piece that you send me the picture file because i cannot download it from XDA, it dont appear. If you send me to [email protected] I will be gratefull.
Thank you
This may not be the correct place to ask this, but does anyone know which kind of TekScrewdriver I'd need to get into my Hermes?
I dropped the thing on tiles, and now the loud speaker doesn't work. It appears to just be a dodgy connection, because when I press the housing around the speaker, it will work momentarily..
Anyone ripped one of these apart before? If so, got any tips?
smacky_wolf said:
This may not be the correct place to ask this, but does anyone know which kind of TekScrewdriver I'd need to get into my Hermes?
I dropped the thing on tiles, and now the loud speaker doesn't work. It appears to just be a dodgy connection, because when I press the housing around the speaker, it will work momentarily..
Anyone ripped one of these apart before? If so, got any tips?
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This has come up before, but rather than deliver a good sound thrashing, (I am still smiling after receiving a compliment elsewhere on the forum) here are a couple of links:
Screwdriver required Torx T6
This thread shows you a rear picture of the front speaker and it's spring contacts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288728&highlight=speaker
This link shows a series of dismantling pics.
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
and my humble offering has a few more pics
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/
NB: There are two ways to search
Use the search link on the brown bar near the top of the page or
Use the Search Google sticky post near the top of the posts listing.
Mike
hi
i have a cingular 8525. i have no sound out of the loudspeaker and when i connect a USB headset i dont have sound either. i replaced the speaker thinking that it was that if anyone could please help me.
thanks
brandon
djstimpy said:
hi
i have a cingular 8525. i have no sound out of the loudspeaker and when i connect a USB headset i dont have sound either. i replaced the speaker thinking that it was that if anyone could please help me.
thanks
brandon
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Welcome to XDA-Dev
Not enough info given.
Is there any sound at all out of wither speaker for any function whetjher it be phone / notifications etc etc.
Did you ever have any sound and if so when and how did it stop.
Have you done a HARD reset or not
Did you flash a new ROM / install a new programme and so on
Mike
i get sound out of the head speaker when calling but when i change over to loudspeaker it doesnt work. well i bought it used n it had this problem. i have done a load of hard resets and ive changed the rom so many times but nothing has yet worked.
djstimpy said:
i get sound out of the head speaker when calling but when i change over to loudspeaker it doesnt work. well i bought it used n it had this problem. i have done a load of hard resets and ive changed the rom so many times but nothing has yet worked.
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Hi
Well I just looked at the board again (it's been a while). Unfortunately, in my view, it is not possible to work on the speaker circuit other than in very crude fashion. The board is multi layer and hence you cannot trace the connections easily, if at all without a diagram. Checking circuit integrity is virtuallty impossible without proper test equipment. Even repair shops won't bother - they will just get a new board. Another frustration is that it is very difficult to work on the circuit whilst it is switched on.
So after that ramble, I'm afraid if you have checked the new speaker and it's connector block then there's not much else you can do. It is possible that part of the circuit is blown, possible through a dodgy mini usb connection!
I would certainly believe it to be hardware if you've done hard resets and tried different ROMS. In fact any ROM should work.
Mike
i was afraid of that =( well i guess i got screwed on that part thanks for the info.
Hey,
I have problem with my htc tytn herm200.
couple days ago i synced my herm200 with my computer using USB cable then i disconnected it and after that all sounds stopped working. Only vibrate works but no sounds...
sounds & notifications are enabled so thats not problem.
I have hard resetted my phone once but no still not working.
I have tried google my problem but i cant find any fix for that problem
so i hope u can help me.
lowned said:
Hey,
I have problem with my htc tytn herm200.
couple days ago i synced my herm200 with my computer using USB cable then i disconnected it and after that all sounds stopped working. Only vibrate works but no sounds...
sounds & notifications are enabled so thats not problem.
I have hard resetted my phone once but no still not working.
I have tried google my problem but i cant find any fix for that problem
so i hope u can help me.
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There are a couple of possibilities. One of the most likely to check out first is that one of the pins in the USB port of the phone has become bent and crossed another pin. Use a magnifying glass to look in the port and if you are careful any bent pin can be tweaked with a pin/needle.
The USB port carries sound connections for earphones and thus problems here can affect the sound.
Mike
hmmm seems that all pins are okey so that wasnt problem.
lowned said:
hmmm seems that all pins are okey so that wasnt problem.
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Well, now to track down the other possibilities.
Can I assume your in-call sound is working from the front earpiece?
If so then I think the next most likely cause is that the small white connector block for the rear speaker has been dislodged. Not Uncommon and a fairly easy fix - Just need to push it back on again.
See Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1376254&postcount=2
To remove the back casing see here:
www.mikechannon.net
Mike
YEAH! Now its working again. Thank you very very much : )
MikeChannon said:
Well, now to track down the other possibilities.
Can I assume your in-call sound is working from the front earpiece?
If so then I think the next most likely cause is that the small white connector block for the rear speaker has been dislodged. Not Uncommon and a fairly easy fix - Just need to push it back on again.
See Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1376254&postcount=2
To remove the back casing see here:
www.mikechannon.net
Mike
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Thank you for your valuable solution It worked on mine