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Im currently using the imate rom 2.16.9.1.wwe Rom date 2/6/06 extrom version 0 2.16.9.101
It has been working fine for the past few weeks and the performane increase has been much better. I was also using the oush mail which also worked well. Then a few days ago I started to have a few problems with the phone, basically it would look as if it was working the lights flashing, however when I went to turn it on it wouldn’t turn on. The only way to resolve this si to soft reset the handset. This problem is now occuring on average 2 times a day! I havent even installed any new software!! Thwe only major incident before this started happening was I used skype twice! But havent used it since! I have also stopped push mail cause I thought this maybe the issue but it didn’t solve it!
Its so annoying cause I think the device is operating normally cause I see the flashing lights however it cant do anything cause it has frozen!
Any ideas???
I was thinking of going for a hard reset but if I restore my backup ive taken with spb will this not just reintroduce the problem?
just to add for further info i have no apps running and the
program memory is total - 44.01mb
in use 19.67mb and Free 24.34
thats after a soft reboot!!
This might be a really silly suggestion, so appologies if it is, but could it be just the backlight turned off for some reason so it looks like the device is off when it is actually on?
No, I don't think that it is the backlight as I am also now experiencing this same problem ... approx 1 - 2 time daily. You think that the phone is functioning until you try to use it. Only option is soft reset.
Any help on this would be appreciated.
no at present a soft reset is the only cure and even then it may occur again later on! Bluey HK are you using the same rom as me??? the imate one?
its done it twice already today and its only midday! the last time i was just browsing the web, closed the browser, then switched it off and then couldnt turn it back on! Do you think it may be a memory leakage issue????
This happened to me yesterday on my T-Mobile MDA. I am running the latest T-Mobile_RUU_Wizard_2210401_221_20710_ENG_US image from xelencin.
What appears to have triggered the problem for me was attempting to connect to T-Mobile's My Email app to download mailbox settings while the signal level is too low or intermittent (Wi-fi and Bluetooth were disabled).
The backlight would not turn on and I could observe the My Email app trying to access the server.
it sounds as though it may be a bug connected with a GPRS connection???
ahh its done it again, this time i wasnt doing anything just died! I think i am gonnna have to do a hard reset cause this is making the phone unuseable!
if i do a hard reset and then install a back up is there a high possibility that this will reintroduce the bug???
its not the backlight
my 8125 is having the same damn problem. its nto a backlight issue, as it just stalls, and the past 4 times its done it, i've just removed the battery and turned it back on as a soft reset wont work, and i can't it to react to any commands. this is either a software issue all our phones are dying. i was having this problem with summitter's previous 2.17 rom, then updated to the recent 2.17.11 aku 2.2 rom... thinking the upgraded rom is what it needed...NOPE... still crashed. almost all instances i believe are when the wifi connection was active. but i could be making that up, i'm positive on 3 occasions it was with a wifi connection active. but not too sure about the 4th.
this is making me insane, and we need to figure out whats up~!
to expound on the problem:
one time i was in the middle of checking voicemail, then tried to delete, but the screen wouldn't light up, and it wasn't responding to my option 7 to delete command. the other time was in the middle of a phone call. something's up....
i am having the same issue with my 9100, its running the latest offical rom, mine does it whenever it feels i dont believe it is wifi or gprs related as i have the problem at time when i have been using neither.
there does not appear to be a link to any software i am using either
any ideas?.
yea- i get the same sometimes, i go to take my phone out of standby and it wont do anything, the power button doesnt work- the light just flashes. sometimes it freezes on the today screen, the power button dont work or anything. really need to sort this!
any ideas? any1 else get this? its where u put ur MDA in standby, and next time u press power button 2 turn on nufin happens, but the leds still flash at the top!
yep i still get the problem! still no cure!
I have exactly the same problem... I just pick up my device from my pocket to use it, I press on the power button once but the device won't wake up from the standby mode. I wish someone can give us a cure.
Low Battery...
I had this happen to me once recently...for me it was becuase my battery was too low. Freaked me out, because everything looked good, but I would power on and get nothing! Right after it started it powered on for a sec then quit. I had to put it on the charger and leave it for a couple hours to get a good solid charge, then everything was fine. Hope this helps....
thanks for the response, unfortunately mine is definately not related to the battery charge!
mine hasnt done it in the last day, ive been leaving it a while before putting it into standby. i used to exit my app (messaging or whatever) and shut it off straightaway, but i give it a sec or 2 to make sure its all good
and its doin ok so far!
Hi,
I have run into a problem half a dozen times now when I turn on the phone and the backlight isn't working and pressing the backlight button doesn't make a difference.
When I check the settings the backlight levels have been set to Zero.
I haven't yet had a chance to track down why it is happening, but was wondering if anyone else had come across the problem.
Hello there!
Been lurking for a bit but finally decided to join in.
Not got much to add really as I am still learning about the device, however I am suffering the same problem. Happened quite a few times now and I can't discern a pattern.
Any geniuses got any ideas?
Great forum by the way. Learnt lots already.
W
All I can tell you is yes, it's happened to me before. Almost gave me a heart-attack, because I though the machine was failing - the light just switch off on its own accord while I was reading an e-book at night.
Still no idea why.
I have been suffering the same problem since the rom update. It seems to happen mostly if I have some program active in the background when the device powers itself down from idle or the clamshell is closed.
For me, holding the power button down for a few seconds seems to take it back to the defined level setting.
Clueless as to why it happens though.
Well, I'm not alone
This has just started happening to me, too.
I usually have to do a soft reset to be able to get the backlight back on. Once it's back up and running, I go into my settings and find nothing has changed since I set the backlight timers for both battery power and external power. I've even got it set to turn the backlight back on when pushing a button or tapping the screen -- and yet, when I do that, nothing happens. I've tried holding the power button down for a few seconds, but all that does is give me a soft reset.
I've been running the AKU2.3 ROM for about a week, and this problem started occurring yesterday on my Cingular 8125. I'd sure like to know what's causing it and how to fix it.
Does anyone elses G1 not wake up when Menu is pressed? Sometimes I have to press it like 6 times before the phone wakes up, does anyone know why?
Mine does this as well. I just thought it was learning from it's owner (I take more than 5-6 pokes to wake me up too).
My only guess is that something is running in the background in order to slow it down and the number of presses has little to do with it.
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Mine does this as well. I just thought it was learning from it's owner (I take more than 5-6 pokes to wake me up too).
My only guess is that something is running in the background in order to slow it down and the number of presses has little to do with it.
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Yea, i was thinkin the same, i should try runnin a ton of apps and find out if [email protected] the problem
mine does the same things sometimes. gets annoying at times. usually i just open and close the keyboard
Mine recently started this, it must be something we downloaded, plus I have the following problems too, they all started at the same time:
1) When someone calls, the screen stay blank for a while so the phone rings but the screen is off so I dont see whos calling
2) The background keeps changing back to the original blue picture thing
3) The WiFi keeps turning off and drians the battery, nothing I do stops it from turning on. I have all sorts of software running, I even ask Locale to turn it off if its between 12.01am to 11pm and still WiFi keeps poping up.
4) Battery drains FAST lately.
I uninstalled a long list of software and problem is not solved.
Brooklynite!
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Mine recently started this, it must be something we downloaded, plus I have the following problems too, they all started at the same time:
1) When someone calls, the screen stay blank for a while so the phone rings but the screen is off so I dont see whos calling
2) The background keeps changing back to the original blue picture thing
3) The WiFi keeps turning off and drians the battery, nothing I do stops it from turning on. I have all sorts of software running, I even ask Locale to turn it off if its between 12.01am to 11pm and still WiFi keeps poping up.
4) Battery drains FAST lately.
I uninstalled a long list of software and problem is not solved.
Brooklynite!
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Shop Savvy?
I also started having the wake up problem and quicker then normal battery drain. I have an ADP1 phone which I updated to 1.1 a few days before noticing issue
I think that the theory of something sucking clock cycles is a good one. I noticed my CPU Usage (when nothing was running other then System Monitor) went from 0-40% to 20-70%.
I couldn't be bothered with the finer points of troubleshooting, so I took the thermo-nuclear approach and did a factory wipe.
Just before the mystery CPU cycle and wake up issue, I hadn't installed any new apps, BUT I did update a bunch of existing apps. After the factory wipe, I left off installing the following list:
Watts
StreamFurious
DroidFTP
Telnet
e-VoiceRecorder
VoiceRecorder
Constitution
Barcode Scanner
Astro
RingDroid
SlovoEd Classic English Dictionary
Things are fine now.
both of my g1's do this, and have done this out of the box, anyone turn off there screen with the keyboard out, and then close the screen and the screen comes back on with the lock screen up and then having to turn the screen back off? annoying
try the swapper app?
or turn phone off and back on, it might becuase you are usingahome or openhome or dxtop or sweeterhome, these app may slow down the interface a bit, try downloading droid sans tweak lite and fool around with that..
goodluck i also get this sometimes
brooklynite said:
Mine recently started this, it must be something we downloaded, plus I have the following problems too, they all started at the same time:
1) When someone calls, the screen stay blank for a while so the phone rings but the screen is off so I dont see whos calling
2) The background keeps changing back to the original blue picture thing
3) The WiFi keeps turning off and drians the battery, nothing I do stops it from turning on. I have all sorts of software running, I even ask Locale to turn it off if its between 12.01am to 11pm and still WiFi keeps poping up.
4) Battery drains FAST lately.
I uninstalled a long list of software and problem is not solved.
Brooklynite!
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I'm having same issue as the OP and issued #1, 3 and 4 from the above post.
Hmm, im not experiencing any of the above posted issues, it may be a particular app that u have installed. I only have the wakeup issue sometimes, most likely when the phone is running slow from the browser or another memory draining app, but no app in particular.
Hmm, when mine fails to wake up, I never waited long enough for it to come back, just reseated the battery for a reboot.
Of the other problems, I have the "screen-black-for-a-few-before-caller-picture-shows-up" issue.
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I'm having same issue as the OP and issued #1, 3 and 4 from the above post.
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what firmware do you have?
btw, dont count on Locale to turn off your stuff all the time, its not very accurate imo, at times its great, but thanks to the crappy g1 battery, they have a choice, constantly check time/location/.ect and drain the battery in a hour flat, or periodically check it and reduce battery drain, do you have any wifi programs that keep wifi on when phone sleeps (such as wifi lock and so on)? if so use the program on the market that writes up a log of its actions and see if its acting up
as for #1 (sorry im unorganized) my phone does that too, i believe its because i have 2 programs that run when the phone rings, let alone im sure locale is checking to see who is coming since thats a condition, which would make 3, and then i have a mp3 that plays when the phone rings, and i have a class 4 sd card (i know, i know), the way that programs work is that it has to go line by line of the code, if it is slowed down, or it has to execute other items before continuing that are slow to execute, than everything has a delay, but yeah from time to time i have this issue, phoneplus was a program that made me miss a few calls (1/4th of the time)
i think 3 and 4 are directly related, could be wrong
I was having the same problem right after I installed the app "Contact Owner"
No amount of reboots fixed the problem. Uninstalled and everything was back to normal.
@wootroot - I have stock RC30. Haven't rooted yet.
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@wootroot - I have stock RC30. Haven't rooted yet.
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consider upgrading to the rc33 ota update yet? i had better battery life (and my battery didnt get as hot) when i used rc33
also, if youve had your phone since it first came out (rc19 i believe) and your battery used to get very hot, you might of damaged some of the cells (especially of the battery has expanded), if this is the case simply call tmobile and tell them that your noticing even after wiping the phone that your battery life is lasting shorter and shorted, even with out any programs installed from the market, i even went as far as to say that i made sure wifi was off, only 2g was on, gps was off, screen was dimmed, timeout set at 30 secs, and im still only getting a hour of life (none of which is true but it got through all the "well how about trying this and calling back if you still have a problem" bs, with the ota rc33 and the new battery, i noticed a pretty good difference
I have a modified version of this "doesnt always wake up". The phone is less than 24 hours old, it was a refurb they sent me for the last one that went dead. I used it with the rc33 it came with and found the problem, then figured it was hosed so i rooted and installed 3 of the versions of cupcake (The Dude, JF, and Haykuro) to see if they all had the issue- they do. Here is a video, hope you can see the attempted keypresses. There will be lines that appear, like the screen is broke..then, they will go away. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to get the phone to turn on, however if I leave it on (never goes to sleep) it works flawlessly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecQo2Ly2WUM
I get this all the time also...
Uninstalling dxTop doesn't change anything for me...it still acts the same...
I also get the problem that when someone calls me the screen stays blank for about 5 seconds and I can't tell who calling...
wake up issue
I am experiencing the same problem, with a brand new warranty replaced G1, what happens is when the phone goes to sleep it completely locks up, when I try to wake it up via menu, it does not wake. Plugging the phone in and trying ddms or adb does not work, ddms shows the phone as offline, also the device seems to get really hot when this happens, sometimes Call + Menu + Power resets it, and sometimes I have to pull the battery.
I think this may have to do with wifi turned on. Because when the screen goes off your phone switches wifi off and goes to 3G as default setting.
I think we should try leaving wifi on all the time and see if that solves the issue, im about to try that now.
It seems this is a known issue over at tmo forums
A couple questions:
When this happens to you guys is wifi enabled and connected when the phone is shut off?
What Rom, SPL, and Radio is installed?
I noticed this didnt happen to me until I enabled wifi, maybe I didnt wait long enough because its completely random, please send back your results
defcon
Hey everyone, I'm not sure whats going on with my HD2. Last night I was transferring my stuff from my fuze to my HD2 with PIMbackup, and it went well but after a little while it started acting a little weird. I transferred about 1200 sms messages, which I'm thinking makes it act a little weird because of the amount but I'm not sure. Then I started getting an error report saying a problem has occured with services.exe, and after that it froze and would not turn off, so I had to take the battery out and put it back in, but then the same problem happened again ten minutes later and I did the same thing again. And just now about 20 mins ago it froze and I did the battery thing again, but when it started back up it was very sluggish and I checked task manager but there were no programs running. I am confused about this because I got this phone yesterday and since then I havent really used it since I havent unlocked it yet, I have at&t, but I did install a program from the marketplace called wallpapers, but I'm not sure if thats the issue
I appreciate any help
did you transfer programs and registry settings? cos tarts not a good idea even between roms on the same phone, let alone across different phones.
no all I did was use the PIM backup and restore utility to transfer over appointments,call logs, contacts,messages,speed dials, and tasks. I dont think it transferred any registry files or anything
anyone know a fix to this? If not, will hard resetting my device do the trick?
Also, if I hard reset the device, will i lose all the stuff the phone came with like the transformers movie and programs, should I also remove the sd card while doing the reset?
any help is appreciated
The transfer of backed up SMS files, on occasion, can have a seriously negative effect on a "new" or different device from which they came and/or originated.
Try downloading an application called, MemMaid, and run the "Advanced Cleaner" which can run quite the detailed scan of all your system files, various cache folders, and much, much more.
Your device is fine, just a little cluttered I'm sure.
Ok, now I'm scared. I dont know wtf is going on, for some reason my phone wont turn on, I did a soft reset and the phone came on and it was sluggish, so I left it alone and it went on standby, then I pushed the lock button and it didnt turn on, the buttons just lit up, nothing else. So I took out the battery and put it back in and loaded it up and it was sluggish again, so I pushed the lock button to put it in standby and pressed the lock button again and the screen didnt turn on, but after a minute or two it turned back on, weird The weird thing is that after the error report for services.exe comes up and then the phone goes back to normal, no sluggishness.
So I just wanna know if I should hard reset it, or return it or what?
Definitely do a hard reset before trying to return it.
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Ok, now I'm scared. I dont know wtf is going on, for some reason my phone wont turn on, I did a soft reset and the phone came on and it was sluggish, so I left it alone and it went on standby, then I pushed the lock button and it didnt turn on, the buttons just lit up, nothing else. So I took out the battery and put it back in and loaded it up and it was sluggish again, so I pushed the lock button to put it in standby and pressed the lock button again and the screen didnt turn on, but after a minute or two it turned back on, weird The weird thing is that after the error report for services.exe comes up and then the phone goes back to normal, no sluggishness.
So I just wanna know if I should hard reset it, or return it or what?
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Try a hard reset and let us know how it goes. Don't worry, I've never actually heard of anyone bricking their device with PIM before
only the buttons lighting up when you press power is well known and called "sleep of death"
theres a thread in normal hd2 section called "hd2 died....or did it?"
have a read of that.
well i did a hard reset and everything went back to normal, it mustve been one of the programs i had installed, which were the bn ereader,marketplace,those games.
Seems like the SMS client likes to barf all over itself when people get a lot of texts going. I had about 2k texts going and my phone acted all kinds of crazy. I deleted most of them and it works fine again.
thats what i was thinking too. So does anyone here know how I can transfer all my text messages without it messing up my phone?
i have had my atrix for 4 days now and its locked up 3 times were i had to take the battery out to restart it anyone else have this problem anyone no how to fix it or should i return it for a new one
kga943 said:
i have had my atrix for 4 days now and its locked up 3 times were i had to take the battery out to restart it anyone else have this problem anyone no how to fix it or should i return it for a new one
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Did you install any applications from the market? Is your phone freezing while a certain application is open or does it freeze even on the homescreen? If you have a lot of applications installed try to deinstall and look if it becomes better. If not try a factory reset. If it still freezes than return it for a new one.
Would you mind saying what you were doing when it locks up?
If it's during Music, it doesn't actually lock up, it just shows a black screen for about half a minute. Everything still functions, it just doesn't show.
Two times trying to answer a call the screen would not unlock nothing would work I had to take the battery out and just todayit was sitting on my desk and it would not turn on when I tried to use it
The green message light was on very dim and I had to take the battery out
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I have a feeling there is a bad batch of units out there.
Try factory reset and see if it continues to lock up, if it does, return it for another.
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Two times trying to answer a call the screen would not unlock nothing would work I had to take the battery out and just todayit was sitting on my desk and it would not turn on when I tried to use it
The green message light was on very dim and I had to take the battery out
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Sounds like a broken phone. Try a factory reset (if you return it they anyway ask if you did that) and if that won't help get a new one....
kga943 said:
Two times trying to answer a call the screen would not unlock nothing would work I had to take the battery out and just todayit was sitting on my desk and it would not turn on when I tried to use it
The green message light was on very dim and I had to take the battery out
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Same thing happened to me yesterday, the light was very dim green and the phone did not respond until I pulled the battery. It hasn't happened again.
I've already had to replace my Atrix for another issue. Right now my confidence in this phone is not very high, but it is brand new. Lots of issues will probably pop up and be fixed via software updates- at least I hope thats the case.
It really feels like all the issues people are having with this phone are software related. Maybe motorolla will just cave and give us gingerbread with no blur
I've had the same problem while playing music...over the past 3 days after about 30 minutes of tunes it'll lock up and after another 5 reset itself...i've done the reset after the second and it still does it...i'm bout to take it back and exchange it...i expect glitches but damn.
Motorola Atrix (stock)
AT&T Fuze (Energy.RAPHAEL.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.sencity)
I have had the issue happen 2 me twice in 3 days, the last time was when adding the note widget to screen. It was not completely locked up just the touch screen, i could press the power off button but the touch screen would not let me shutdown
something you might want to try if a factory reset doesn't work would be a reinstall from the recovery menu.
power your phone off
hold the down volume key and the power button
release the power button once the phone begins to boot
keep holding the down volume button until you see "fastboot" at the top of the screen
now be careful, the down volume button navigates through the boot options and the up volume selects one
so press the down volume button until you come across "android recovery"
once you see it press the up volume button to select it
once you get to the screen with the exclamation mark tap the bottom right of the touchscreen, this should pop up the recovery menu
select wipe data/factory reset
let the phone do it's thing
good luck
I've seen this resolve some audio codec issues that were causing the phone's mic to not work, dunno if it'll work for your issue but it can't hurt to try.
best of luck
bl4ck0ut
I have found a fix for my lockup issue. If the screen is on and lockup (no touch screen) press the power button 2, turns off the display and turns it back on and everything continues to work fine.
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I have found a fix for my lockup issue. If the screen is on and lockup (no touch screen) press the power button 2, turns off the display and turns it back on and everything continues to work fine.
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I have the same problem (screen randomly locks up once or twice a day, buttons dead) and have found the above "solution" to work perfectly, also. The problem however is that pressing the power button twice and unlocking the phone is not exactly elegant especially if the screen locks while you are trying to answer an incoming call.
I changed my battery settings to "performance mode" as I read somewhere that that might help. I will let you know if that seems to resolve the issue.
Changing battery setting doesn't seem to do anything. I still get my share of frozen/locked up screens a few times a day. Still have not figured out how to replicate the behavior. It really does seem random.
I've been suffering from this as well, I'm going to try to exchange my phone and see if that helps.
Exchanged my phone today. So far I haven't seen any locked/frozen screen issues. I am relieved. Maybe there are just a few bad units out there.
Also for what it is worth ... the lady at AT&T told me that taking out the battery while the phone is on would fix it. Since I never figured out how to replicate the behavior I couldn't verify that her suggestion would indeed actually fix the problem and demanded an exchange anyways.
atrix does lock up and have glitches
lock up glitch:
While in standby (screen black), it locks up. You obviously don't know when exactly it happens as it's lying around in standby. When you press the powerbutton to wake it up, nothing happens. You can try what you want, long press, several presses, just dead phone. As if the battery losts juice, but 2 times it happened and the battery was above 50%.
Tired to connect the charger while in that lock-up state. Nothing happens The notification light remains black as well.
The 2nd time this happened to me, I had the idea to call myself and see if just the powerbutton has a glitch and the phone is actually running just remaining in standby with a black screen. But nope, the phone didn't ring or wake up.
Only way to recover is to take the battery out.
I didn't mess with my phone and was very careful in which apps I installed. The only ones I have are very populoar 4+star apps:
extended controls
easy profiles
the other apps are most of the time not even running:
photoaf, vignette, imdb, nytimes, fb, skype, pandora, screen filter, droid light, prozoom5x camera
No games at all installed...
The 2nd glitch that happened to me a couple of times is that the finger print sensor is not working: It doesn't display any message as in " did not verify, too short, ..." it's just dead, the only way to get in is to punch in the number code.
This is typically fixed after switching the phone off fully.
Of course skype also doesn't work on my atrix (well known mic issue)
It happened to me as well. I had installed some apps but when it froze it had been off (the screen that is) so it was sitting then when I tried to open it by pressing the power button the green light came on but it would not wake. I removed the battery, replaced it then it did the same thing again (including the green light). I removed and installed the battery once more then it was fine. It must have been something in the backround but not sure as to what that was. Hasnt happened again though.
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lock up glitch:
While in standby (screen black), it locks up. You obviously don't know when exactly it happens as it's lying around in standby. When you press the powerbutton to wake it up, nothing happens. You can try what you want, long press, several presses, just dead phone. As if the battery losts juice, but 2 times it happened and the battery was above 50%.
Tired to connect the charger while in that lock-up state. Nothing happens The notification light remains black as well.
The 2nd time this happened to me, I had the idea to call myself and see if just the powerbutton has a glitch and the phone is actually running just remaining in standby with a black screen. But nope, the phone didn't ring or wake up.
Only way to recover is to take the battery out.
I didn't mess with my phone and was very careful in which apps I installed. The only ones I have are very populoar 4+star apps:
extended controls
easy profiles
the other apps are most of the time not even running:
photoaf, vignette, imdb, nytimes, fb, skype, pandora, screen filter, droid light, prozoom5x camera
No games at all installed...
The 2nd glitch that happened to me a couple of times is that the finger print sensor is not working: It doesn't display any message as in " did not verify, too short, ..." it's just dead, the only way to get in is to punch in the number code.
This is typically fixed after switching the phone off fully.
Of course skype also doesn't work on my atrix (well known mic issue)
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strange, skype worked for me... oh well.
did you ever find a solution for the lockup issue, have the same thing, very frustrating but not as frequent as you thankfully.
My Atrix started to freeze up when I undervolted the CPU using SetCPU and I would have to pull the battery out and restart it. I increased the voltage settings and it hasn't locked up since, so if you have undervolted your CPU and your phone is locking up, you should increase the voltages.