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Bluechalking via MDA 2

Dear All,
Please help me, my question is how to use T-mobile MDA 2 to send and receive messages from any bluetooth-type devices like cell phones, pda etc.
Thanks.

well there are no protocol that i know off that everybody use
if there is then it's pretty easy to make it for every bluetooth pda
maybe if there is a std for doing it somebody have already don it

Rudegar said:
well there are no protocol that i know off that everybody use
if there is then it's pretty easy to make it for every bluetooth pda
maybe if there is a std for doing it somebody have already don it
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Thanks for quick reply.
Well I know a lot of people are using their pda's and cell phones to send msg's, files etc via bluetooth.
On pda's it's quite easy - just open bluetooth window and you can manage almost everything.
But on MDA 2 there's just "Blue tooth parameters" in control panel and that's all.
Well it's ok with handsfree, it works, but how to work with other devices?
Maybe there's kind'a application for this performance?

with beam you can already push and pop files back and forth between the xda2 and other bluetooth able devices
but text msg is another thing
if other people with pocketpc's got some std and some program it's just a matter of getting the program from them and putting it on the xda2 and it would work xda2 is a pocketpc like all other pocketpc's and share programs with them just like pc's can run the same programs
of cause maybe some of those programs would not work with ms's bluetooth that xda2 uses

Rudegar said:
with beam you can already push and pop files back and forth between the xda2 and other bluetooth able devices
but text msg is another thing
if other people with pocketpc's got some std and some program it's just a matter of getting the program from them and putting it on the xda2 and it would work xda2 is a pocketpc like all other pocketpc's and share programs with them just like pc's can run the same programs
of cause maybe some of those programs would not work with ms's bluetooth that xda2 uses
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You're right.
I've tried the program BuzZone (www.buzzone.net), but when it's being installed from PC to MDA2, there's appearing an error message on MDA screen at the end of setup: "Cannot find BT CE file" or something like that.
What is "ms bluetooth"?

it's the bluetooth stack that ms made that comes free with winCE
hp and other pda makers use a 3th party bluetooth stack which is much much much better

You can always send short messages in a contact's name field. This is known as 'bluejacking' - sending anonymous messages to strangers via Bluetooth.
For more information visit:
http://www.bluejackaddict.co.uk

This works!!
The title of the message is the Contact's name, The message itself is the Contacts Notes
How to:
Create contact with name / notes
Save
Tap it
Tools / Beam contact
Select the victim device

What we need is something like SMAN on the Px00 that could scan for 'victims' and automatically send the contact to them.
SMAN also logged succesful 'hits' - great fun for the supermarket!

bluejacking
one other thing that is needed desperately is some way of making sure that you only bluejack good-looking people not people that look like me

edsub said:
This works!!
The title of the message is the Contact's name, The message itself is the Contacts Notes
How to:
Create contact with name / notes
Save
Tap it
Tools / Beam contact
Select the victim device
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How'd you get the option to beam to bluetooth. Even with mine turned on I only can beam via infrared.

It should also say searching" whilst it scans for bluetooth receivers can take a couple of minutes to locate other phones

mitchellgunn said:
It should also say searching" whilst it scans for bluetooth receivers can take a couple of minutes to locate other phones
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Ahhh....gotcha....thanks....

devloper and hacker app of the year.. chat style sms... from the treo 750v

This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody

in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper

I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.

Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758

I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.

Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.

i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother

Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.

In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.

Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)

Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?

Fake Sms

Is there any app to send fake sms? send sms to my self whith any name i want?

why would u do that u sick... nah just playing use voipsms and put any number at a sender

lol , really ... somthin ..dizzy , ( sorry buddy )

n-sms, from s-one telecom, for s60. really good app. it seems there's nothing for wm

Eye On Privacy lets you do it but it puts "[Eye On Privacy]" at the end of the message without the quotes. I use the program but not that feature but i just tested it out to see how it worked

HushSMS?
It came with a ROM I used recently and sends it as though it's a network message. Worked to my Mum's 3330 anonomously (Sent one saying "Your new balance is £0.00 - Please top up." and made her believe I'd transferred her credit to my phone..
Other people's came up with my name/number in it though.

There's a cellular emulator with WM6 SDK that can do that. Not sure if it's possible to hook it up to a real device though.

Text From Desktop - Testing the water

Hello All.
I am currently in the process of developing an application to text mobiles via an activesync connected device.
So no subscriptions, no pay per text etc etc.. Simply uses your phone\tarrif to send messages..
I was considering releasing it on here, and wondered what (if any) would the interest be? Would anyone use it?
It's in the early dev stages at the moment... But I am willing to consider BETA testers.
Would you be willing?
Cheers
MikeSel^

yes i would love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! cheers!

Sounds good, I had a program to do this with my ancient Nokia.
If you can make it provider independent I would love to test it

I would also love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! Thanks

Would you be able to make it read text's also, so you could use it like an email client - would be easier for me to send texts whilst at work like this.
I would be willing to test.

I would use this daily as i send alot of text messages!

this would be great, my phone is hooked up to activesync the whole time at work and im constantly sending txts.

I can send texts from MS Outlook 2k7, no activesync or phone hookup needed- but I think you have to have Sprint as a carrier and a hotmail account.

Thanks for your replies..
I will add them all to my development plans, and post up once the beta is ready to test.
This will be completely independant from any carriers as it will simply use your phones carrier to send\receive messages!
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
Thanks

MikeSel^ said:
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
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Ability to browse inbox/sent items if you can please - so no interaction with the phone is needed.
Also, mark messgaes read/unread and delete.
They are all i would probably use. Cheers for the effort man!

Read/Unread... Good idea!!
**Runs off to implement**
KEEP UM COMING!

I use my mobile from desktop by using http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp its not free but works well for me.

I'm very interested in this...
Will you run a client application on the device, or are you directly accessing the data? (RAPI maybe?)

Well the idea stems from Jeyo, I've used it for ages.. But I feel there are parts missing from it. An I like to be able to customize the software to how I want to use it.
I am currently using RAPI with a 'server\client' type thing going on. However I am not sure this will be how it ends up. Depends on how much I can squeese from RAPI.

Looking forward to this mate, should be a good little project for you.
I know what u mean with customizing software that ur using.

MikeSel^ said:
KEEP UM COMING!
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OK, how about supporting command line so that i can send txt msgs using my '.net programs'.
Even better would be to expose a sort of API through a dll file.
I would love that.

Ok, Well my proof of concept exe may help you there.. The exe simply reads from a text file. First line phone number, next line message..
So I have an app that creates the text message copies it to the device and then starts the exe. Which sends the exe,,
So if you want to use this, make the text file in the root of the device and run the exe.
I will build in a similar function to the final version.
Thanks
Mike

cool im looking forward to this. it would be really usefull.

im up for this too....will it work with Vista?

mDesktop is wicked for txtin from tour desktop, if you have ur diamond connected the txts pop up on you monitor 2

SMS limit removal

I send out the same text to a group of people quite often and I get a message saying messenger is sending a large amount of messages do you want to allow this? I have to click on it for each message that goes out. Is there any possible way to change the limit? I know you used to be able to set it to anything you want in settings/security but it's not there anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated...this is so annoying.

Have you tried GoSMS Pro?
Maybe I've never sent to as many as you, but I've never encountered that warning or behavior. I've used GoSMS for several years.

I've only seen this when I send many messages in quick succession (either with Google Messenger or something like Tasker). There should be a checkbox that says to always allow.

I'm also looking for a solution. I was using ResurrectionRemix (a CM based ROM) and it has an option to set the text restriction. So, it CAN be done. We just need to know WHERE the code is so that it can be changed. I can't find any search results explaining how to accomplish this. That SMS Limit Unlock app doesn't work on later ROMS.

After hours of searching today - it appears that the setting has been moved into the framework?
com.android.internal.telephony
https://android.googlesource.com/pla...geMonitor.java
I hope I'm wrong as I'm no Android dev.... But, if I'm correct the only way I know of to "fix" it is to make the change in a custom Android build/ROM.
This SUCKS as I use mass texting for business purposes (communicating with many individuals who sign up for contract work). I really like Android N (along with AndroidPay) - but, looks like I'll be going back to M (on a custom ROM)...
If anyone locates/determines a way to alter that file using RootExplorer/Sqlite or some other way - please let me know.