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TyTN - recording phone conversations

Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?

Benone said:
Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?
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try vito audionotes

I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?

Nicky said:
I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?
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I've tried "Vito Audionotes" and "Resco Audio Recorder" and both got the same problem on TyTN; both only records your side so are useless...

Yes, it is a problem Viva, the way I have got round this is by using the Tytn headphones to make a call but I just wear one earpiece in my ear and I hold the other earpiece next to the inline microphone (you could even tape it there).
I have only ever used the inbuilt note recorder before so when I saw this thread I was hoping that there was 3rd party software out there that would record the other side of the conversation automatically so I wouldn't have to do it this way.
Anyway, thought I would mention my method in case it helps anyone

How about this
http://1800message.com/products.aspx

starfish_001 first point
1) Download either or both of applications below - NOTE: PM Recorder will only work with some Smartphones, not Pocket PC Phone Edition devices.
what is the differebce between PPC Phone and Smartphone ?
I thought my TyTN is a Smartphone but now I think it's a PPCPhone ..
So, there is nothing which can record conversations. It's a pity , phone with so big storage should have this option built-in... what you think ?
The option with some server which will keep my records it's not good for me, I wouldn't let anybody to send my conversations anywhere..
Ok, I will be still looking for some solution and let you know if find any..
Cheers guys.

Yes, TyTn is a PocketPC phone. The most obvious difference is that Smartphones do not have a touchscreen and have a numeric pad.
My C500 (Typhoon) Smartphone wouldn't record telephone conversations either, so I don't think that it's PPC specific. The incoming call simply isn't passed through the OS for it to be recorded.
I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that it was a conscious decision by Microsoft as some operators didn't want that functionality and they were trying to get as many operators onboard as possible. But Nokias can record conversations - even without a beep notification to the caller - so this info may not be correct.

Guys, please DO use the forum serach engine. I've long answrred these question in ALL call recording-related threads started before June 2006.
Please see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

LivePVR
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.

Hmm...
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too. You will need to use it in "speaker" mode like all others... Its just technically not possible.

Well, I have just read the article about recording via the speakerphone but I still prefer my method which I mentioned earlier in this thread.
My method records both sides of the conversation, I think the recording I get is better quality than when you record via speakerphone and the conversation remains private ... I am quite happy with my workaround

When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).

gromel said:
When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).
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It will not record the other party's voice, as has already been pointed out in my article (see link above).
However, i's still teh best call recorder app available for the PPC, particularly if you use the WAV postconverter I've discussed in the article.

Applestar said:
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too.
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They did false advertising? Everyone who paid for that pretty crapy app could sue them for that. After all, the day after they've released LivePVR I've pointed out in my review it's NOT able to record the other party. That is, they were surely able of the app's inability of this.

abubasim said:
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.
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Yup, it directly doesn't mention it; however, the Audio Recorder Bible (linked in from the PMRecorder article; http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp ) does and it also links in the related LivePVR review ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1218&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 )

The extend of my test was one phone call. I realise now that I did the test with the speaker on.
Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?

So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.

abubasim said:
Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?
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I'm continuously pushing the issue in internal MS forums. Hopefully HTC / MS changes its approach and does implement what Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens etc have been offering for 7-8 years.

Benone said:
So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.
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OK, will post a note here too when there is a solution. Also make sure you regularly visit the General forum here for my latest posts.

Windows Mobile: exotic software needed

Hello,
Need following software that I could not find:
1. Call conversation recorder (tried Resco won't work properly - almost impossible to hear the person you are talking with, I suppose it uses microphone to record, isn't there any internal way to do it?)
2. ****list software to block calls and messages from unwanted numbers.
My machine is HTC Touch Cruise, Windows Mobile 6.0 Pro
Much obliged in advance for any clues.

Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?

You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...

juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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Well it's most upseting then for the phone like that. I suppose many consider it business phone, and businessmen should be most interested in recording their calls :|

l3v5y said:
You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...
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I know that, you gotta push and hold that damn button all the time and that is not that easy and most uncomfortable :|

in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.

No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...

I live in Europe, Lithuania, so it doesn't concern me whatsoever
NguyenHuu said:
in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.
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Very uncomfortable I should say, I was looking for much more automatized software, at least Resco adds date, number and some other info I suppose. And by the way does it work if you're talking with bluetooth headset on? I guess not...
l3v5y said:
No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...
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I doubt it...

Resco Audio Recorder automatically records phone calls (I remember because I didn't know it was on, so I filled up my storage with phone recordings).
However, it is quiet because on most WinMo hardware, you can't record incoming voice. It's quiet because it's recording from the mic (where you talk into), which I guess picks up a bit of sound from the speaker (where you listen when you talk). Maybe try talking on speakerphone all the time? Haha, I'm sure that won't work in a business setting, but it's something.

can "Call Firewall" block messages (SMS) as well? I guess not. And that is even more important for me. Anyone knows software with this function?
juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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There is a program i have tested on wm6 it's called LivePVR if you PM me i can give you a link

Try PMRecorder. It's fully automatic, and it's supposed to be working quite well.

Hi,
Vito audioNotes does a very good job on this. Good quality sound and small files.
Cheers,
Dirk

megaphone (voice amplifier) software for WM

hi,
does anyone know software for windows mobile devices that make it act like a megaphone. or would this be easy to make ? input = magnified output or something ?
does not sound that hard.
but i have been looking on google and searched on several ppc software sites.
w/o any promising results.
its just for fun.
and dont say: 'BUY AN MEGAPHONE' pls
Thanks in Advance.
Jack.

I'm certain that you can yell louder than the maximum output level of the speaker on the phone. At any level, that may even be remotely close to louder than you could yell, there will be so much distortion from the device that it would be nothing more than noise.
Now if you had asked about a voice changing app. That may be fun if it could even be activated while on calls.
That is till you answer your phone with the female voice when your wife calls.

you got a point there about the maximum lvl of the speaker. lol
and i dont realy think those voice chaning app's work that good.
they come with my creative sound card.
some voices are changed quite good. others are not
thx anyway. you made this topic useless

Don't even think of it. At the very least the microphone will sense the amplified output and there will be a fading echo. In the worst case echo will be amplified up to the point where all you hear is a painfully loud high-frequency tone.

stepw said:
Don't even think of it. At the very least the microphone will sense the amplified output and there will be a fading echo. In the worst case echo will be amplified up to the point where all you hear is a painfully loud high-frequency tone.
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I love feedback!
Surely the speaker on the device isn't loud enough to make a difference?

what kind of topic,,,,hahahaha
you can yell louder than the speaker.....hahaha
...but the voice changing app will be a lot of fun

Is there voice changers for PPC?
adempozhari said:
what kind of topic,,,,hahahaha
you can yell louder than the speaker.....hahaha
...but the voice changing app will be a lot of fun
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Is there any good working voice changing apps for wm5/6 guys?

shiranmotha said:
Is there any good working voice changing apps for wm5/6 guys?
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Apparently this is impossible, because they don't allow access to the mic... I think... I don't think they wanted people to write programs to record coversations...

Why is it impossible? I have a voice recorder on my touch.....

pkoper said:
Why is it impossible? I have a voice recorder on my touch.....
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true, you can have a recorder, but altering it would be difficult- lets remember you might not want to be using a voice changer all the time..a recorder records sounds but doesnt alter it

JokeZony0u said:
true, you can have a recorder, but altering it would be difficult- lets remember you might not want to be using a voice changer all the time..a recorder records sounds but doesnt alter it
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yes you right but at least someone have to make an app wich record the voice and play it in altering mode...

adempozhari said:
yes you right but at least someone have to make an app wich record the voice and play it in altering mode...
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Yes, and there are recorders like RESCO recorder which records while in a conversation too... There are several crazy apps like call cheater (adds a background sound) and many more that I used in my symbian N70, but on WM6 I found nothing...

shiranmotha said:
Yes, and there are recorders like RESCO recorder which records while in a conversation too... There are several crazy apps like call cheater (adds a background sound) and many more that I used in my symbian N70, but on WM6 I found nothing...
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HA!! I loved call cheater on my Nokia.. Can't count the number of times I left work late and used the traffic jam background as I called the wife at 90+ MPH. "Yea stuck in traffic again."

Well, the HTC phones(or manufactured for other carriers) ain't supporting the in-line audio function ( which is a hardware feature), due to which I suppose you can't play background sound during call. Because of this the answering machine functionality doesn't work, which you find in the nokia's symbian based phones. Some phone of Gigabyte has this functionality & I hope in near future HTC looks into implementing it.
If you want answering machine functionality on ppc then you can try iSecretary 4.5. But remember it will route the audio through the loudspeaker, which might annoy you sometimes.

shiranmotha said:
Yes, and there are recorders like RESCO recorder which records while in a conversation too... There are several crazy apps like call cheater (adds a background sound) and many more that I used in my symbian N70, but on WM6 I found nothing...
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the windows mobile standard have that app. as conversations recorder are hundreds but I use PMRECORDER and it will be fun have such a app to add a background sounds to a conversations

its not as stupid as you might think
megaphones can be pretty loud, but for the most part are no louder than a human voice, the point of a megaphone is to talk into it and your voice amplified so you can shout without straining your voice.
obviously a phone speaker wont match your standard megaphone speaker but you should be able to amplifiy your voice with your phone.
not really practical but it is doable.

Heykrop said:
HA!! I loved call cheater on my Nokia.. Can't count the number of times I left work late and used the traffic jam background as I called the wife at 90+ MPH. "Yea stuck in traffic again."
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ahahhahaahahahhhhahaaaahahaa

Voice scrambler 'd be nice just to speak silently into the PDAs' mic and the voice would come loud and scrambled from the speaker (i need that for my mafia job )

I think there was something like this for the nGage.
Try to google that-maybe they did something similar for our ppc's!?

I would actually like such a program, but I wouldn't use it with the phone's speaker, I'd use it when connected to a speaker system. Say your at your party and you want to speak to everyone without yelling your lungs out, you simply plug your speaker system into the the phone, and everyone will be able to hear you. I know the Iphone has an app like this, so there has to be someone with WM coding skill to write a program like this. It's a simple concept: get audio data from the microphone and immediately give output through the headphone jack.

In - Call Recording

Hello everyone - Can someone who has an HD test out the incall recording software and perhaps post an audio file.
This is a key feature that I'm looking for as my nokia currently has this feature.
And no, it's necessary for my career, i'm not a pervert who goes around recording conversations for kicks

Discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442220

Lucas - thanks for the link to hte other thread...
however, what i'm trying to establish is whether the HD allows for in call recording without the use of speakerphone.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.

Sorry, thought this was clear from my other posts - no possible on HTC devices.

sorry, but i can't agree with that opionion. Some time ago i've got Asus P750 and it was possible to record conversations without turning on speakerphone.

Ok, edited my post, selected non-HTC devices supported it in the past, but no current HTC ones. End of story.

Lucas0511 said:
Ok, edited my post, selected non-HTC devices supported it in the past, but no current HTC ones. End of story.
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Not end. The new HTC Touch HD has extra support for this.
Surur

Good news then! But I am still skeptical ... any more info?
surur said:
Not end. The new HTC Touch HD has extra support for this.
Surur
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Surur is correct - Like hte HTC Advantage, the hardware is slightly different on the touch HD allowing software access to both earpiece and outgoing mic audio. Therefore, one can record conversations without hte use of the speakerphone.
I just need to establish what the quality is like of the recording and what featrues are built into the software.
someone who has the device please assist! thanks in advance.

biswasd said:
Surur is correct - Like hte HTC Advantage, the hardware is slightly different on the touch HD allowing software access to both earpiece and outgoing mic audio. Therefore, one can record conversations without hte use of the speakerphone.
I just need to establish what the quality is like of the recording and what featrues are built into the software.
someone who has the device please assist! thanks in advance.
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I purchased the latest Resco Audio Recorder and use it on my Eten x500. It has a feature which records all your calls. No beeps etc... And you can customize it so that you can use different audio formats and sound quality. It works fantastic!

Please, please somebody test this on HTC Touch HD

I'll test it tommorow. My HD is going to me
I'm also interested in calls recording.

biswasd said:
Hello everyone - Can someone who has an HD test out the incall recording software and perhaps post an audio file.
This is a key feature that I'm looking for as my nokia currently has this feature.
And no, it's necessary for my career, i'm not a pervert who goes around recording conversations for kicks
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Tried audionotes. Failed. Other party is not recorded.

so what exactly then does the in call recording feature do? Anyone have any more insight into this issue?

Now that investor Mark Cuban has a major insider trading case in the U.S. centered around a phone conversation, maybe a call recording software for WinMobile and other systems would come in handy. This one records speaker output and your input - speaker output is ok but not great - but hey, sometimes you might wish you had at least a audible recording - a wav file that could be enhanced later. Works on HD. http://dontknowme.at/http://www.nch.com.au/trx/index.html

biswasd said:
so what exactly then does the in call recording feature do? Anyone have any more insight into this issue?
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It is a software that automatically fires up itself whenever a call is connected, and it records your phone conversation, so that you don't need to take down notes on a piece of paper. It creats audio files that you can go back to listen to, and serves as a record or proof of your conversation with the other party.

Well, at least there is the last resort of turning on the speaker phone. Audio Note will surely work if you do that.
But I hope we can find something that can record when the embedded earpiece is used.

Should clarify that with the Trx offering other party is audible without turning on the speaker.

Does anybody have a program "In Call Recording" in HD? Look at http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-smartphone time 11:50, ICR icon. Thank you.

just letting you know that I use Audio Notes Touch for this (on my Omnia) - works superbly
- no need to be on speakerphone mode
- can record calls automtically even when Audio Notes Touch is not open
- AVLS
- can be used as a notetaker/sound-recorded

Call recording - does Touch HD's hardware allow?

As title really.
I've done a search on the forum and it seems there is software available that will record calls, but this will only work if the hardware itself supports it. Does anyone know if the Touch HD will work with any software to support call recording?
The other work around I discovered doing a search on the forum was to put the phone into speakerphone mode and use call recording software, but this is obviously not ideal.
So, what's the best way to record calls on the Touch HD?
Thanks

anotheruser123 said:
The other work around I discovered doing a search on the forum was to put the phone into speakerphone mode and use call recording software, but this is obviously not ideal.
So, what's the best way to record calls on the Touch HD?
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You got it in one. Thats currently the only way.

Not quite
Resco Audio recorder works fine for me, once configured it collects all calls as mp3's in a folder of your choice (e.g. on sd).
it's not freeware though, but no speaker needed.

Not technically sure about the Blackstone, but I have both a Polaris and Raphael. I've seen comments about both of those phones being unable to record, yet I've never had a problem recording with VITO Audio Notes (without using the speakerphone trick). It's also a commercial product. If both of those phones can do it, I would suspect the Blackstone is probably also capable.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808

hey, i was looking online
and got on a wmpoweruser site, dont know the link, and in a post they released the HTC in call recording, wat whas in a chinese or japanese rom, i got it, but havent tested it yet, its accesible when you phone, and then the right softbutton and record call, in the post they said it was recording bothsides

Duh look at the link above your post

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Thank you for helping my friend.
Excuse me if this sounds rude but that is a 20 page thread that I don't have time to look through unfortunately. Could you please point me to the page that has the relevant instructions?
Thanks

speed_pour said:
Not technically sure about the Blackstone, but I have both a Polaris and Raphael. I've seen comments about both of those phones being unable to record, yet I've never had a problem recording with VITO Audio Notes (without using the speakerphone trick). It's also a commercial product. If both of those phones can do it, I would suspect the Blackstone is probably also capable.
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@speed_pour,
Please can you explaine the speakerphone trick, I also use vito audio notes! Today I see this trick, without using the speakerphone, for the second time also in this post, but I have no idea how it works!
I can only record both voices when I activate speakerphone in settings, if I don't, I only can record my own voice during a call????!!!!!
Thanks in advance!

luckyuser said:
@speed_pour,
Please can you explaine the speakerphone trick, I also use vito audio notes! Today I see this trick, without using the speakerphone, for the second time also in this post, but I have no idea how it works!
I can only record both voices when I activate speakerphone in settings, if I don't, I only can record my own voice during a call????!!!!!
Thanks in advance!
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Don't know what to tell you, I just made a call 5 minutes ago on that phone, and without turning on the speakerphone it's still got both voices on there. The other side's voice is much lower volume, but it can't be sound bleeding over because it also works when I'm using a bluetooth headset.