Active Car Holder for Kaiser HowTo - WITH AUDIO OUT - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories

I am writing this article as I have an HTC Kaiser and want the ultimate active holder for my car.
Brodit do an active holder, but it is regular USB, not extUSB, and it is hard wired to a cigarette lighter connector, so you cannot access audio via the extUSB whilst your Kaiser is in the holder. Also, Brodit seem to have abandoned screwing on the block that holds the USB plug in favour of melting it on, so you can't easily replace the plug with an extUSB splitter as you could with the Hermes holder.
This method should work for pretty much any extUSB phone (or even ones with other connectors) but in my examples I will obviously show a Kaiser and a brodit holder.
You will need:
Your phone.
A very thin plastic bag.
A passive holder (Brodit item 848752 for a Kaiser) or a suitably butchered active one that had the wrong plug.
Some plastic granules (Such as these - not the exact ones I used, anything similar should do)
A hob, pan and water.
An audio splitter (Such as this ORA 3-in-1 splitter)
About 10 minutes spare.
Step 1 - Preparation
Start boiling the pan of water, remove battery from phone (Put cover back on), put the phone in the plastic bag with plastic covering the USB socket.
Put the plug of the audio splitter into the phone whilst the plastic bag is still on the phone. The plastic bag should go inside the usb socket between the plug and the socket (That's why it needs to be a thin plastic bag). This is to make sure you get no melted plastic on your phone or in the USB socket.
Put the phone in the passive holder (Still inside plastic bag - again, why it needs to be so thin) - for the mentioned Brodit holder and a kaiser, do not slide it all the way to the stop at the end, leave about 1cm gap.
Step 2 - Holding the plug in place
So now you have your phone in the holder, with the plug in the place it needs to be to meet the phone as it is slid in, you need to hold the plug in that place permanently. This is acheived with the plastic granules I mentioned - they can be melted and moulded into any shape.
Once the water has boiled, place some plastic granules in the boiling water. You want maybe the size of a matchbox. Melting too much is fine as you can always re-melt and re-use it later.
Once the plastic is melted, remove from boiling water. You should be able to handle it right away - start kneading it to get rid of air pockets etc.
Roll it into a sausage and wrap it around the holder and the USB plug of the audio splitter - push it up against the phone to make sure it moulds nicely to it's contours - squidge it around as much of the passive holder as you can to make sure it has plenty of grip. Work fast as it hardens as it cools. Do not worry about getting the surface too smooth or perfect at this stage as the plastic can be worked once dry with sandpaper, knives etc.
If you have melted too much plastic, you can always pull it off at this stage - too little would be much more problematic to sort out.
Once you are happy, wait for it to start hardening as it cools.
Step 3 - Touching up
The inside will harden before the outside. Once it is structurally sound, but the outside is still a bit soft, remove the phone from the holder.
The plastic bag will probably stick to the melted plastic a bit, but you should be able to pull it away, or just leve the plastic bag on there. While the melted plastic is still a bit soft on the outside, you will need to work it a bit (use your finger or a cocktail stick) - neatening it up around the usb socket and moulding it against the holder where you could not before because the phone was in the way.
It sounds complicated, but it isn't. I did it first try and in 5 minutes flat. If you fail, you can always use a hair dryer to soften up the plastic and try again.
Step 4 (Optional) - Aesthetics
As it stands, it doesn't look very good, but the plastic is workable with tools (Or the stuff I have is) - sand it, carve it into nice smooth lines with no creases, then paint it black.
Once you have that done, you have the ultimate Kaiser holder - It rotates, it lets the keyboard open, and as soon as you slide the phone in the holder, it connects USB, audio and power.
Problems:
I am not sure how the plastic would fare in a very hot car or if mounted in front of a vent and there was hot air blasting at it. I think melting temp starts at 60 degrees celcius though, so you would probably be OK and what's the worst that could happen?
If I use my audio splitter (The ORA 3-in-1 adapter) with my cigarette lighter to USB cable (I have an official HTC one) for power, I get "Alternator whine" coming out of the Kaiser audio - there is a high pitched noise which gets higher pitched as you accelerate. Only really noticable on quiet bits of music. This may be any one of the parts' fault, but for me, the solution was to get power from my Blaupunkt Hamburg car stereo, which has a USB port.

Excellent post.
This is just what I was planning to do, since discovering the active mount had a "moulded" connector.
I have a question regarding the 3in1 splitter, does the Kaisers inbuilt mic work if you connect audio out via the center connection or do you need to piggyback an 11pin to 3.5mm adapter such as this to use for calls, voice control etc?

Nice job.
My active holder shipped today, so I'll be posting a tutorial for replacing the usb charger on that with the audio adapter. Hopefully I'll get it done by this weekend.

URPREY said:
Nice job.
My active holder shipped today, so I'll be posting a tutorial for replacing the usb charger on that with the audio adapter. Hopefully I'll get it done by this weekend.
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Excellent Post!
Both Brodits once modificated would solve my problems.
Possibly in combination with
http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=157536
Professionals also could look at: http://www.bikertech.de/html/pda-selbstbau.html

wizzzard said:
I have a question regarding the 3in1 splitter, does the Kaisers inbuilt mic work if you connect audio out via the center connection or do you need to piggyback an 11pin to 3.5mm adapter such as this to use for calls, voice control etc?
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Good question. I would guess that the ORA adapter 3.5mm jack is stereo only and no mic, but it does pass the extUSB through though, so you could just use the adapter you pictured.

URPREY said:
My active holder shipped today, so I'll be posting a tutorial for replacing the usb charger on that with the audio adapter. Hopefully I'll get it done by this weekend.
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Good luck with that bro, I have an active holder already, but because of the way the block is now melted on, I did not see a way of easily removing it whilst being able to reattach it and keep the spacing exactly right.

evilc said:
If I use my audio splitter (The ORA 3-in-1 adapter) with my cigarette lighter to USB cable (I have an official HTC one) for power, I get "Alternator whine" coming out of the Kaiser audio - there is a high pitched noise which gets higher pitched as you accelerate. Only really noticable on quiet bits of music. This may be any one of the parts' fault, but for me, the solution was to get power from my Blaupunkt Hamburg car stereo, which has a USB port.
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Sounds like a bad earth. Excellent guide

URPREY said:
Nice job.
My active holder shipped today, so I'll be posting a tutorial for replacing the usb charger on that with the audio adapter. Hopefully I'll get it done by this weekend.
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Glad to hear yours is on its way, as you know Im waiting for you to chop your Brodit first!
Got all the bits ready, 3-1 adapter, 3.5 inch jack plug and Nokia car speaker for the IGo audio. I didnt get a reply from Brodit when I asked about a replacement mounting block, I'll chase them tomorrow.
How should I wire the stereo audio out to the mono speaker? Just use one channel, I assume the output is mono from Igo anyway. Will it be a problem just loading one side of the stereo output?
Cheers
Rob

Forgive me for my ignorance ...
what is so special about "Brodit" that compell you all to buy the holder and then performed surgery to it and make it less than new 2nd rate item ?? with chances of someone screw up and trash the whole thing ??
why not just shop around for a fitting or one that provide the right setup ??
ok ... flame suit is on !!

Frans. said:
Excellent Post!
Both Brodits once modificated would solve my problems.
Possibly in combination with
http://www.expansys.nl/p.aspx?i=157536
Another idea is to use the Semsons 2-in-1 adapter and attach it to the bottom of the Brodit passive holder. The only problem I see is that the adapter might interfere with the plastic stop at the bottom of the Brodit holder.
Semson 2-in-1 adapter
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
Brodit passive holder
http://www.proclipusa.com/site/fram.../848752.jpg&width=480&height=480&pageid=13242
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UnicornKaz said:
Forgive me for my ignorance ...
what is so special about "Brodit" that compell you all to buy the holder and then performed surgery to it and make it less than new 2nd rate item ?? with chances of someone screw up and trash the whole thing ??
why not just shop around for a fitting or one that provide the right setup ??
ok ... flame suit is on !!
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Do you know of any other holders that allow the Kaiser keyboard to slide out while it is in the holder and also allow the holder to rotate between landscape and portrait? Cause i don't. Besides, Brodit products are well made and they offer mounting kits for most makes and models of cars.
Also, we are doing no wiring here, the chances of "trashing" anything are slim to none, and it is reversable (ie reheat the plastic and remove), so I felt it was worth sharing.
If you read around the forums, you will see many people trying to acheive an active kaiser holder with all the features of mine - no-one yet seems to have found one as good that you can buy off the shelf.
Also, I went out of my way to point out that this method (ie using polymorph) should be able to mod many passive holders to active ones, not just Brodit.
Enough reasons for you?

skins07 said:
Another idea is to use the Semsons 2-in-1 adapter and attach it to the bottom of the Brodit passive holder. The only problem I see is that the adapter might interfere with the plastic stop at the bottom of the Brodit holder.
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My thinking on the matter was that if I used one with a dongle on a wire, when I spin from portrait to landscape and back, I am not putting pressure on the connectors, the cable of the audio splitter just bends.
I wouldn't mind one of those semsons one for my pocket, but I think wired ones are better in this case.

evilc said:
Do you know of any other holders that allow the Kaiser keyboard to slide out while it is in the holder and also allow the holder to rotate between landscape and portrait? Cause i don't. Besides, Brodit products are well made and they offer mounting kits for most makes and models of cars.
Also, we are doing no wiring here, the chances of "trashing" anything are slim to none, and it is reversable (ie reheat the plastic and remove), so I felt it was worth sharing.
If you read around the forums, you will see many people trying to acheive an active kaiser holder with all the features of mine - no-one yet seems to have found one as good that you can buy off the shelf.
Also, I went out of my way to point out that this method (ie using polymorph) should be able to mod many passive holders to active ones, not just Brodit.
Enough reasons for you?
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This one does the job for me perfectly !! ( 360 degrees rotatation with keyboard out ..etc
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-PDA-Phone-H...yZ130797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
the only downside to it is the spring jaw ..etc .. but I haven't have any problem with it yet !!

I'll wait for this...
http://www.kidigi.com/Car HTC 4350.asp
Doesn't rotate though. Seidio did offer one for the 8125/8525 that rotated and allowed the keyboard to be slid open.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=386
They may do the same for the Tilt, but it is bulkier (what you don't see it that it is 3+ inches deep) and more expensive.

the guys at OnCourse Navigator are creating a new one for the Kaiser - Active windshield mount - with some sort of an FM Transmitter option. Not sure how that would really help, but the one for the 8525 worked well for me.

jgermuga said:
I'll wait for this...
http://www.kidigi.com/Car HTC 4350.asp
Doesn't rotate though. Seidio did offer one for the 8125/8525 that rotated and allowed the keyboard to be slid open.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=386
They may do the same for the Tilt, but it is bulkier (what you don't see it that it is 3+ inches deep) and more expensive.
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something similar ..
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2050
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2047
I have no idea why this company have stuffs that isn't available out there .. and it's wholesale only !!
http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?...S&mode=11&lag=&name=TyTN II Kaiser&search=HTC
even a much sought after metal case that is NOT a TyTN clone ... see the front with precised camera opening ... I want one really bad !!
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2046

I've been able to find the metal case and the cradles on ebay, but I agree with you. It's hard to find their products in a store that I can actually buy from.
UnicornKaz said:
something similar ..
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2050
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2047
I have no idea why this company have stuffs that isn't available out there .. and it's wholesale only !!
http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?...S&mode=11&lag=&name=TyTN II Kaiser&search=HTC
even a much sought after metal case that is NOT a TyTN clone ... see the front with precised camera opening ... I want one really bad !!
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2046
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Here is my solution with the old Hermes.... and works fine also with the Kaiser
Ps: The "arm" to mount the PDA Holder has been constructed & mounted by myself
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wizzzard said:
Excellent post.
I have a question regarding the 3in1 splitter, does the Kaisers inbuilt mic work if you connect audio out via the center connection or do you need to piggyback an 11pin to 3.5mm adapter such as this to use for calls, voice control etc?
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Wizzzard,
My experiance of the 3 in 1 is that the 3.5" jack is audio out only (although i have not tested the converter you mentioned with the 3 in 1), Once you connect the 3 in 1 it disables the internal mic. My solution was to butcher the earpeices from the original HTC headset and route the MIC part to the preffered position. Read my solution here
Nogs

nogs said:
Wizzzard,
My experiance of the 3 in 1 is that the 3.5" jack is audio out only (although i have not tested the converter you mentioned with the 3 in 1), Once you connect the 3 in 1 it disables the internal mic. My solution was to butcher the earpeices from the original HTC headset and route the MIC part to the preffered position. Read my solution here
Nogs
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I actually went for this adaptor with my old USB car charger. Everything works as expected but with altenator whine. (Note to self: Fix the earth from the lighter socket)
Earlier today I spotted this which appears to have an audio out socket at the back of the charger unit. This is also easily transferred between vehicles.

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broken headphone jack?

I've tried this in 2 XDA II's. I put my headphones it one and it works but you cant hear it and you have to hit the cap around a little for it to get sound for a slip second. I put my headphones in another XDA II and it works fine.. So obviously there is something wrong with this XDA II's headphone jack. The rubber cover to the headphone jack is missing, would this have any effect on it?
EDIT-
When I put it in the broken headphone jacked PDA when I insert the headphones in it makes a crinkle noise from me pushing it in. The other XDA II goes in smoothly. =/
Hi.
Rubber cap doesn't change anything (apart from stopping rubbish from getting into connector )
What you described is a case of worn out connector (in PDA).
It happens sometimes. Jack type connector aren't so tough, especially when you plug in and out often.
If you dismantle Blueangel, you'll have clear view of connector body soldered to PDA's mainboard.
You can do it. You can let somebody do it. Or You can leave it to professionals.
The connector needs to be replaced (very cheap part).
Maybe it's enough to bend metal terminals inside a little. A person who does hardware will know.
There's a optimistic version though.
Maybe only cleaning the terminals would do for you (I doubt it though).
It can be done without opening BA.
I'd recommend using some special spray (for cleaning electrical contact metals). Ask in electronic parts shop.
Good luck.
I ment my XDA II, not XDA IIs, lol. I have no expierence with opening the phone but I am good with electronics, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for =/. I think I might just buy the HT820's Bluetooth headset, that would solve my problem overall.
Faulty socket repair...
Hey guys,
I have the same problem as above (crackling sound through headset) and the O2 service centre said it would cost £97 to fix.
But just did a web search and found a small company in London that said they can fix it (within 2 hours!!!!) for only £30!!!!
Im off to get it sorted so I'll let you know how it all went!!!
Richie Rich.
Mine wasn't like this until I bought it. I bought it from a friend for only $100USD because I'm very good friends with him, it works fine perfectly but the only problem is the headphones don't work in it (any headphones) and he knows there is something wrong with the jack, it wasn't like this until recently it happened. It's cheap to fix probably... but I'd rather just buy the HT820 bluetooth headset, its a good replacement instead of having to send in the PDA to fix a little headphone jack port I wont be ever using sooner or later.
but hey if that place fixes your phone, reply to this topic I want to know!
Headset Jack
I had this exact same problem in the past.
The headset would crack and go out every once in a while, sometimes I would have to move it around in order to get any sound at all.
I didn't do anything about it until it completely broke off, yes the inside plastic connected to the motherboard broke...
So I went to open it up, its not that hard, just a few screws, but I had to buy a torax screw driver (not that expensive)
I was also a bit shy about opening it, but I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8525&highlight=opening+himilaya
you wont have to open it all the way up... just pulling the back cover off, then you will see the headset jack,
If it isn't broken or cracked then your solution would just be to take the metal connectors and a flathead screwdriver, and bend them,
Don’t bend the metal connectors too much so you can’t put a headset in, but just enough where there is definite connection around the headset,
You might want to put a headset in and see the dimensions before you close it (to save you from opening it up again)
You might want to clean the metal if it is dirty, ether with a dab of eyeglass cleaner on a soft cloth (eyeglass cleaner works well with electronics, due to the alcohol that evaporates)
Although if the metal is encrusted or rusty, you might want to take a small strip of sandpaper, or some abrasive object, but don’t rub too hard or you'll take them off!
Don’t worry too much about opening your device up; it is not hard, just open it with caution.
Good luck!
imablackhat, hi, did u mean that ht820 can output sound from media player & every sound from xda2? my current BT is bluetrek G2 and as far as i'm using it for talking only. how many hours the batt can last if we continously hear musics?
its 17 hours of music, www.expansys.com, search HT820, its the headset. I'm considering buying it for cheaper on eBay.

How do you carry your wired earbud with you ?

Hi,
I am wondering what the most convenient way to take my wired earbud with me so that I can listen to music, or making a call using the headphones.
Which earbud pouch do you use ?
Just putting the earbud in the one's pocket is not a good idea, it gets dirty, and the wired get tangled.
I prefer by far a wired to a bluetooth hearphone, because I hate having to bother about another device to charge.
I am using the original HTC Kaiser headphone, because I find it a lot better than any other for the simple reason that it has a volume slider contrary to the HS U110 (cf. http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=155073&p=tech ). And although the E100 (cf. http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=150195 ) has a volume slider, I do not have the use of the other functionalities because I use CorePlayer software exclusively (I also recommend you to do so by the way).
Could you share in this thread, how you carry your wired earbud together with you kaiser ?
Chris
Where did your TyTN II come from?
I'd like to know the answer to this as well. It's interesting that your original Kaiser wired headset has a volume slider because mine does not. The other problem you haven't mentioned with putting the headset wound up in a pocket or bag is that the earpad foam 'socks' often get pulled off.
It seems like HTC (at least here in the UK) are missing the boat big time. Not only do they not supply a case to carry the headset, they also don't supply replacement earpad socks. Fortunately the Motorola ones are interchangable. There are rubberised devices shaped like a dog bone meant for coiling up headset wires but I'd prefer a small fully enclosed case. I'm considering buying a new inner ear style headset soon anyway (as soon as the manufacturer releases a straight plug version that doesn't need an adapter), they suggested I get back to them early in May. This will hopefully resolve the whole issue.
Another think I did not mention: the bend of the headphone mini-USB like jack is done in the wrong direction !! I can't believe it. Mine is bent to the right, which is very annoying to take the stylus in and out !
Do you have your headphone mini-USB like jack bent to the left ??
Flying Kiwi said:
I'd like to know the answer to this as well. It's interesting that your original Kaiser wired headset has a volume slider because mine does not. The other problem you haven't mentioned with putting the headset wound up in a pocket or bag is that the earpad foam 'socks' often get pulled off.
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I have the same problem as you. Does someone have a suggestion on how to carry the HTC Kaiser wired headphone with you so that you can use it every time you need it ?
Where did you get your Kaiser from?
chris247 said:
Another think I did not mention: the bend of the headphone mini-USB like jack is done in the wrong direction !! I can't believe it. Mine is bent to the right, which is very annoying to take the stylus in and out !
Do you have your headphone mini-USB like jack bent to the left ??
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No the headset that came with my HTC branded TyTN II bought in the UK have a straight plug with HTC moulded onto it. It sounds like you dont have the original headset that comes with the TyTN II (at least not here in the UK).
Flying Kiwi said:
No the headset that came with my HTC branded TyTN II bought in the UK have a straight plug with HTC moulded onto it. It sounds like you dont have the original headset that comes with the TyTN II (at least not here in the UK).
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Hi guys !
You were correct, I mixed up the headphones of the HTC Kaiser and the HTC TyTN 1. This is because I had a HTC TyTN 1 (I still have it) before my current HTC Kaiser.
Here is a picture of the headphones of sold with my HTC Kaiser and my HTC TyTN 1 :
Original headphone sold with my HTC Kaiser:
There is no volume slider which is really annoying for me to ajust the sound ! (on the PPC it is cumbersome to change it)
Original headphone sold with my HTC TyTN 1:
The mini-USB jack is bent to the Wrong direction, which is really annoying to get the stylus In and Out of its slot.
So both of them have big drawback !
If you want some earphones of the type that go right into your ear then Seidio may have something in the not to distant future (currently the plug is bent as per TyTN 1 but in an email response to me they said to get back to them around now for an update). I think in terms of getting such a product to market quickly, the more the merrier who contact them about this (and ask for a good holder box/case with them).
Yes, that would be a good news, do you have a photo of the beta product ? or link to it ?
chris247 said:
Yes, that would be a good news, do you have a photo of the beta product ? or link to it ?
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No but I imagine it'll be a cross between this 2-IN-1 InEar ISOLATOR and the straight plug as per your standard TyTN II headset. As for the case/holder, thats anyones guess but as I'm wanting a non retractable one, it's important they do that right. You may want to see if they're after any Beta testers?
I do agree with you a retractable cable it not that good because it is a weight when you use your earbud.
What about this headset: http://www.expansys.fr/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=155073
Apparently you can plug any earbud on it.
Does it have a volume slider ?
Does it have a straight mini-USB ?
chris247 said:
I do agree with you a retractable cable it not that good because it is a weight when you use your earbud.
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Not only that but the retractor mechanism is another part to break and I prefer the KISS formula for such things!
What about this headset: http://www.expansys.fr/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=155073
Apparently you can plug any earbud on it.
Does it have a volume slider ?
Does it have a straight mini-USB ?
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The picture shows a 3.5 mm (1/8") plug on the headset itself with an adapter plugged into it so it can be used with a TyTN II. It's also a standard size 'outer ear' type earbud rather than the sort I want that go right into the ear canal. No vol slider shown (or mentioned) and as it's described as suitable for a TyTN II it must come with HTC’s 'ExtUSB' plug on the end of the adapter. In short, if you want an outer ear solution you're better off getting the original style headset with ExtUSB plug built in so there's no need for an adapter or added complexity and cost.
chris247 said:
Original headphone sold with my HTC TyTN 1:
The mini-USB jack is bent to the Wrong direction, which is really annoying to get the stylus In and Out of its slot.
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This one here bends to the left & therefore doesn't get in the way of your stylus (you can take that statement in so many different ways )... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2169054&postcount=7
I contacted the Seido online people for an update recently and got a most unhelpful response. Following from the earlier promising email I received, it appears nothing has been accomplished. I can't believe they're not interested in tweaking their product by fitting a straight plug (which they already use on their adapter anyway) so TyTN II users can use their product without problems. I also got the door slammed regarding my querie about a suitable storage case. Maybe the operator was having a bad day - I know I was after that call.
Has anyone else had any luck sourcing an inner ear style headset with mic and answer button which doesn't require an adapter for the TyTN II? What about a storage case for it? I found the 'earbuddy' for ipod headphones but after speaking with a staffmember at a company selling them, he advised me that his mobile phone headset with mic didn't fit as the earbuddy was to small and didn't have space for the mic.
chris247 said:
Hi,
I am wondering what the most convenient way to take my wired earbud with me so that I can listen to music, or making a call using the headphones.
Which earbud pouch do you use ?
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Plantronics Pulsar 855 Stereo Bluetooth Headset
I let it hanging loose when I listen to music (its hanging balanced around my neck), otherwise I have I have connected it to this Telenor neckless in the end (the plastic thingy I used prolly weigh about 3g or so). Thats daily usag, hanging around my neck ready to just pop out and put into my ear on incomming calls or so.
I got that idea from one of the latest jabra pieces who are shipped out whit same solution, only not fancy as mine
Flying Kiwi said:
Has anyone else had any luck sourcing an inner ear style headset with mic and answer button which doesn't require an adapter for the TyTN II?
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Here is the latest interesting wired headphone I have found for HTC pocketpc:
http://www.talkietech.com/htcmiusbto3s.html
Flying Kiwi said:
I found the 'earbuddy' for ipod headphones but after speaking with a staffmember at a company selling them, he advised me that his mobile phone headset with mic didn't fit as the earbuddy was to small and didn't have space for the mic.
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I have found this a way to avoid knot in the headphon thread: http://www.proporta.fr/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=2473&t_mode=des
Thanks for your replies chris247. I've also seen those extUSB to 3.5 mm adapters but alas that would still mean an extra join in the system which I don't want. Aside from something else to possibly come unplugged, it's an extra part to potentially fail and extra weight pulling on the cable.
As far as the cable tidy goes I've also seen those things shaped like a dog bone but since finding the sendstation 'earbuddy' http://www.sendstation.com/us/products/earbuddy/ for ipod headphones (and seeing someone coil up there headphones and store them away in a purpose made pouch while on the train), I'd rather something that fully encloses them and protects them as well.
In answer to the original question... I purchased a set of Sony headphones from my local Tesco about a year ago. Came with a little grey drawstring bag (about 3in square). Takes the TnTy II headset no problem.
Sony earphones set me back about £10 - bit much to pay for a bag tho'
ramsdens said:
In answer to the original question... I purchased a set of Sony headphones from my local Tesco about a year ago. Came with a little grey drawstring bag (about 3in square). Takes the TnTy II headset no problem.
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Do you coil the wire up around anything first or just untangle it when you get them out of the bag? If anyone knows of a phone that does come with a dedicated holder for the supplied wired headphones (with a mic built in) - perhaps this could be bought as a spare part. Do any phone manufacturers know what a 'value added' accessory is?
I think the Sony accessory for the earplug is good idea:
It is a good way to protect the fragile earplugs

About 3.5mm adapter - Are they stereo? Can a broken one be fixed?

Hi. I broke my 3.5mm adapter, two of the connections are now broken. I soldered both wires back but I don't know if they should be soldered with a specific contact. I chose the each wire with a contact, randomly. I put the little plastic case together and, of course, it doesn't work. The sound still comes out of the speakers.
So, is it ruined? The adapter is very simple so I thought I could do it myself.
My second question is that if I buy another adapter, would I have to buy one that's stereo? I saw some descriptions on ebay and some are listed as stereo and some as mono, but they look the same.
Thanks.
My experience
octavia said:
So, is it ruined? The adapter is very simple so I thought I could do it myself.
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I did some surgery on my 3-in-1 USB Adapter and repaired it. I'd left my headset plugged into it when I put it in my bag and something must have pressed against it, pushing the socket at an angle and causing the case halves to split apart. I fully dissasembled it and when I realised the studs which the screws go into had broken clean off, it was out with the superglue with a thin bead around the edges and squashing the halves together in a rubber jawed hobby vice while it dried. It's all fixed now but as the halves are now inseperable, I cant tell you which of those thin wires goes where. The obvious choice would be to carefully inspect the blobs of solder to see which have a 'stump' of wire still embedded in them and try those but be careful because Russian roulette with the wires cannot be good for the circuitry in the phone if you get it wrong. There is a picture of the HTC extUSB pinout accessible through the Kaiser wiki and if you have a multimeter, some thin copper wire for probes and lots of patience, you should be able to work it out.
My second question is that if I buy another adapter, would I have to buy one that's stereo? I saw some descriptions on ebay and some are listed as stereo and some as mono, but they look the same.
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I've not seen a mono one but as the device I have was very cheap (under £10) and plays stereo fine, you may as well splash out on a stereo one

Cradle-style holder with headphone jack for car

Bought one of these:
eBay - search for "FUZE Car Kit" - The one I bought was "C529"
Fits the Fuze like a glove... But best of all: I took the thing apart because I had no interest in FM-modulated sound and found the 3 wires that went from the quasi-USB connector to the modulator circuit board. Those three were (you guessed it) red, white, and black - the 3 wires needed for audio signal...
1. Took it apart totally removing both the switch and the modulator part
2. made a new back out of a piece of plastic
3. went to radio shack, bought a "stereo mini" (1/8) female receiver and wired it to the red/white/black wires that were going to the modulator
4. drilled a 1/4 inch hole in the side of the rest of the housing for the headphone plug
5. rewired red-to-red, black-to-black (since I removed the switch)
VOILA! What i WANTED! A cradle-style holder for the FUZE with a stereo (headphone) jack so that I can just plug in a wire to my aux-input and get my tunes through the radio without the crummy sounding modulation
Yay. Ok you guys may or may not find this useful - but just wanted you to know it was very easy and do-able.
bought exactly the same thing! the fm transmitter switches of randomly, plus I can't listen to my cd's from my car stereo.
Thinking of modding it so that I can attach a speaker.
Can you post a pic of your mod?
thanks
wanwarlock - what kind of car do you have? I ask only because you could do what I did to a "T". If you have a newer car with either a stock head-stereo that has an AUX or CD Changer input or an aftermarket stereo with one of those - then you're set! You can buy adapters on eBay that make your CD Changer/AUX input a regular RCA style input (Red/White). Then go to RadioShack and buy an adapter to go from a Stereo-Mini Female to RCA-style Male and you're done - just plug that wire into the stereo input on your cradle and you're listening to the phone... Unplug and you're listening to whatever else Let me know if you have questions
any pics...?
Yes step by step picutres please if possible i would like to do soemthing like this for my phone as well. And is there any way to get the microphone connection as well? So we can use something like this thanks
nvm: just realized the mic input thing was a usb connection. I was thinking it was the other type of connections like regular iphone headset connections.
(as requested).
The first picture is the cradle attached to a bracket I made... The Honda Pilot has a bizarre little pocket beneath the radio above the "not an ash tray" that is totally useless. I cut a piece of wood, attached a bent strip of aluminum to the wood and a piece of foam to the top of the wood (to allow for a snug fit in the pocket), drilled a few holes in the aluminum, and attached the cradle to the aluminum.
The second picture shows the cradle from the outside - the power jack and the headphone jack.
The last picture shows the wiring detail. Let me know if you have any questions -
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(as requested).
The first picture is the cradle attached to a bracket I made... The Honda Pilot has a bizarre little pocket beneath the radio above the "not an ash tray" that is totally useless. I cut a piece of wood, attached a bent strip of aluminum to the wood and a piece of foam to the top of the wood (to allow for a snug fit in the pocket), drilled a few holes in the aluminum, and attached the cradle to the aluminum.
The second picture shows the cradle from the outside - the power jack and the headphone jack.
The last picture shows the wiring detail. Let me know if you have any questions -
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hmm interesting thanks so much for the pictures.
thanks for the pics... i imagine this wont work with the seidio case
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thanks for the pics... i imagine this wont work with the seidio case
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Not even a little chance - the cradle fits the fuze *very* snug. So snug that I might actually sand it down a bit. With a case of any sort it definitely wouldn't fit.
This is pretty sick I must admint. However, I find myself wanting a cradle that has NO electronic connections, that way I can take the phone out of the cradle and mess with it in my hand and it still be connected to the audio cable and/or power cable.
Anyone know of a good cradle like this?
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This is pretty sick I must admint. However, I find myself wanting a cradle that has NO electronic connections, that way I can take the phone out of the cradle and mess with it in my hand and it still be connected to the audio cable and/or power cable.
Anyone know of a good cradle like this?
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why not just get the generic holder and a car charger?
USB Head Unit
Another solution that I am going to try shortly is hooking up the Fuze via usb cable and set it to drive mode. I might need to put the music in a root folder but I will report back.
I'm trying it on a Pioneer head unit with USB functionality input.
Has anyone tried this yet?
i think it can work. not too familiar with usb headunits i.e. file structure etc. what does your manual say? theoretically should work in drive mode.
my head unit only has aux in...

Gameboy Phone Update 12/10/2013

Hi there,
I'm trying to build a fully functional android gameboy phone
There is a motorola flipout inside with android 2.1.
I choose this phone because its small enough to fit the gameboy and i bought it for only 80 euro's (105 dollar).
I'm trying to make it as functionall as possible
UPDATE: 12/10/2013 Back in action
Sorry i didn't work on the project for a long time becouse i burned the motherboard from the motorola flipout.
I bought a new soldering iron with temputare control.
And use Kynar wire and thin soldering becouse everything is verry thiny .
And ofcourse a new motorola flipout phone and btw sorry for the bad english.
If you guys can help me sort out the Keyboard software problem my phone would be 100% functional.
I can already make calls and use the onscreen keyboard.
Also the microphone is working its located at the speaker hole from the gameboy.
I only tested Nes and a Gb emulator and it works quite well on the low spec device.
UPDATE: 12/10/2013
small video demonstration (testing the connections)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPl5Nv8Amz0&feature=share&list=UU_WEZaMoLECJn6-VJDEK0lw
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UPDATE 12/10/2013
Already done:
- Dremel the Gameboy casing for more space
- Remove keyboard buttons on motorola flipout
- Solder wires on motorola flipout keyboard
- Cut pcb gameboy buttons and solder wires
- Solder wires on lock button
- Solder wires on jack plug
- On screen keyboard while hardware keyboard is open
To do list:
- Locksreen button holder
- Jack plug holder
- External battery
- Micro usb charger port
- Camera Hole
- Paint the casing
Problems:
The Hardware keyboard is open so everytime when you push the gameboy buttons.
When the phone screen is off it will putt the screen on again.
I have to find a way to only disable the hardware keys when the screen is off.
And that you have to use the lockscreen button to unlock.
Does anyone have a idea to do that in Android?
Im not a programmer
What kind of Motorola flip out is it? Could you include model number and possibly some pictures of the phone's board? Great concept btw, I've been thinking of the same thing but with a classic NES controller, using my old Motorola W490...
Sent from XDA app on my ICS powered G2 ( Andromadus a10)
Haha you gotta love Nintendo
Its a motorola MB511 Flipout Qwertz
Android 2.1
First i couldnt use the phone to call when it was closed.
Then i used the app Fullscreen Caller ID and i could use the phone to call when its closed .
With fully functional front and backspeaker but the mic is underneath the display when its closed.
Open:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/img20120203132813.jpg/
Closed:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/img20120203132824.jpg/
The other side can hear me but when its in a Gameboy you cant hear me anymore.
For the front and back speaker i can drill holes as if the motorola was made 4 it .
But i need to extend my microphone and i was thinking about plugging in a microphone in the 3,5mm jackplugg.
But doesnt that take away the function of the front and back speaker becouse it thinks its a headset.
Why not cram a headset inside it?
I dont have enough space for it Only 4 the mic.
If i lower down the display it would look ridiculous.
So is there anyway to connect a microphone and still use the front and backspeaker?
Extending the microphone on the motherboard is my last option XD.
Mobile phones are fragile as hell and there is no such thing as a repair tutorial 4 the flipout.
So opening the motorola is verry risky for me
Props to you, good sir. I honestly don't know anything about what you are attempting to do with the microphone, but I really hope someone helps you. That is a brilliant idea. May I make a suggestion, though?
In the pic you showed, it looks like you are going to have just empty space in the lower part of the Gameboy. If you weren't going to already, you may want to add some filler in there, just to balance the thing out, if only to make the Gameboy not so top-heavy.
Are you going to make a charging porthole for the Gameboy, so that you can leave it in, even when charging?
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Props to you, good sir. I honestly don't know anything about what you are attempting to do with the microphone, but I really hope someone helps you. That is a brilliant idea. May I make a suggestion, though?
In the pic you showed, it looks like you are going to have just empty space in the lower part of the Gameboy. If you weren't going to already, you may want to add some filler in there, just to balance the thing out, if only to make the Gameboy not so top-heavy.
Are you going to make a charging porthole for the Gameboy, so that you can leave it in, even when charging?
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There is gonna be some extra juice in the lower part of the gameboy
So i'm not that worried about the balance thing .
And yep i'm thinking about using the original porthole 4 charging
I took the motorola flipout apart
The good news is i can solder the buttons to the phone easily
My first plan was to solder the buttons to a bleutooth keyboard
Also the phone thinks the keyboard is open even when its closed
I have to do this because i cant call without the keyboard opened.
Now my only problem with the phone is how to extend the microphone???
I cant solder the microphone loose i geuss??
I made some pictures of the inside of the motorola flipout maybe somebody can suggest something???
awesome!
Why can't you drills holes on the gameboy plastic for the mic??
Do you have an electronic board on the lower part of the gameboy, on witch buttons interacts?
Because the best solution would be to have the motorola open inside the gameboy casing. With or without the motorola casing. If you take of the motorola casing plastic you could put the electronic board (with the battery) on top of the buttons and the drills a hole for the mic...
Yes, the second pic with the arrows should be the mic. You could get, or fashion, a piece that that goes over the mic to face it away from the rest of the device. Then have a tube (air tubing?) To string it where you need it. (Remember some sort of dust screen for the mic port)
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Yes, the second pic with the arrows should be the mic. You could get, or fashion, a piece that that goes over the mic to face it away from the rest of the device. Then have a tube (air tubing?) To string it where you need it. (Remember some sort of dust screen for the mic port)
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+1 for a tube!!
I would suggest a wired mono headset so you can place a microphone at the bottom and an earpeice at the top. sorry if this has been mentioned already. I read only to about halfway down.
Fantastic idea!
Just a little idea- why dont you get a set of headphones with a microphone built in (wired hands free kit) mount the mic where ever you need, chop the headphones off and run a mono speaker where the stock speaker used to be?
If you wanted to get super awesome, why not hook the volume control wheel into the wire after the mic but before the speaker, and run a dual 3mm headphone jack, so you could mute the speaker, and plug normal headphones in if you ever wanted to, and still have an external microphone in there? (obviously the dual jack would have to support the microphone connection too, but you could always fabricate this yourself if you knew how? (I dont, just an idea) )
Definitely watching this thread though, I'd love to do this with an old gaming console and my phone somehow.
ratykat
For OP.
Have you posted this on a Nintendo forum on the nintendo website. You could have some brilliant ideas come from there too. I am sure someone with a tech mind for modding could help you there.
YES YOU CAN!
IPHONE HEADPHONES WITH MIC?
also go to walmart and find a cheap headset
or dollar tree
or if funds are no issue, find an old Nintendo DS,DSI,DS lite
CHEERS N GOOD LUCK!
tried this before and sold it for 340 on ebay =) but i had the Pikachu Version!
and the Clear Purple
also if i can be any help PM me, and we will go from there
Nice work man!keep on
I want that yellowboy shell.
So far this is the most awesome project I've ever seen on XDA!
The Microphone wouldnt be a problem but there is little space 4 a earpiece if i would use a headset.
I cant use the headset and earpiece on the phone @ the same time .
The easiest thing would be if there is some kind of app to use only the microphone on a headset and still use the earpiece of the motorola.
Is there somebody that knows a app that can direct sound both on the phone and headset????
Oh and yes i have a electronic board on the lower part of the gameboy on witch buttons interacts
I'l make some pictures when i am finished soldering
bedwa said:
Yes, the second pic with the arrows should be the mic. You could get, or fashion, a piece that that goes over the mic to face it away from the rest of the device. Then have a tube (air tubing?) To string it where you need it. (Remember some sort of dust screen for the mic port)
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haha +1 again for the tubing i cant use the tube becouse of the electronic part of the gameboy buttons.
But your tubing gave me a idea to use tubing to direct sound between the tight space between the screen and phone from the earpiece of a headset.
If I was you I would try and contact Ben Heck for some ideas. Google it and you'll see who he is and what he does.

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