Am I just old-fashioned that I like to file away my email messages after reading? I kinda miss PINE, my old terminal client in college. Because with PINE I knew and understood that changes (delete/move/xpunge) were really happening on the server.
With pocket Outlook using IMAP connecting to SmarterMail server, it appears that emails DELETED, are in fact completely deleted from the server. They do not show up on the server/in webmail/etc. Really gone.
2) emails FILED (using "move" to folder command) in Pocket Outlook, do not show as FILED or DELETED on server. They remain in the inbox. This drives me nuts b/c I don't like to do thinks twice.
What do you guys use? I vaguely sense that I am being manipulated into upgrading to MS Exchange.
I miss PINE.
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Hi guys,
Our Exchange server filters junk mail in to the "Junk E-Mail" folder. However, my pocket PC still downloads it (which is obviously a waste of GPRS, and really annoying as I get it so often).
Is there a way to stop it downloading mail if its been moved to Junk?
Why dont't you try a mail client with filters? Fleximail for example...
Have you selected which specific folders you wish to download? On your TyTN, start the mail client, and select
Menu... Tools... Manage Folders...
You can select or deselect to your heart's content...
i believe the junk-mail filters are an outlook plugin, therefore the rules that are used to filter junk mail are client side.
i too, find this annoying. worse yet is if you have a fat outlook client running, the junk-mail makes it to your junk mail folder, yet the update on the wm5 device is SLOOOOOOW as the client side "junk filter" rules don't trigger a sync.
Does it just download effectively the "headers" initially, or the full message?
Alternatively can you run something like "Mailwasher" on the TnTN to do the filtering before using Outlook?
Well the mail filtering is actually done server side by Exchange. There are options on the exchange server to move anything over a certain score straight to the Junk Mail folder. So my PPC will download the mail as if it's in my inbox, but when I login to web-mail, its actually in Junk.
Hi all,
A quick question.
I just started syncing mail with my wm6 device.
Problem is i have rules forwarding mail to my pst. These mail messages do not get forwarded to my device, so i miss out on them until i come back to my pc with outlook.
I tried to move all the folders under inbox and it will sync mail but you dont get any notifications.
Is there an app that i dont know about? Has anyone doing anything differently or can you suggest something.
thanks in advance.
if all your mail arrives to both your desktop and your ppc you can mark an option to keep the mail on the server and delete them from the server only when they reach your PPC.. unless i missed your point..
I'm not sure if I understood correctly, but right at the moment I'm battling the issue of POutlook not being able to sync 'big' Outlook folders other than Inbox (so, no Sent Items, no custom folders, no Junk Mail ).
This is an inherent limitation (and a liability) of ActiveSync. You may have heard a few choice words on its subject... and believe me, they are all true. AS is just the barest bones, nothing but.
If you DO look for syncing Outlook folders other than just the Inbox, you'll have to shell out quite a few bucks. A moment ago I've finished testing Chapura's Pocket Mirror Professional, a piece of soft that acts a bit like an add-on (or possibly a gateway) to AS. Looks promising, works as advertised, and costs 50 USD. Sigh.
If you want to take a gander, HERE it is.
Best of luck.
To add a bit more info .. basically .. in outlook i have a personal folder (PST) and under that ill have employee1 .. employee2 etc ... so when i recieve a message from them the outlook rule moves it into the correct dub folder.
Now if a rule moves the message to the correct sub folder it doesnt send it as well to my HTC.
anything that doesnt have a rule .. ie just stays in my inbox .. will get forwarded on to my HTC.
So im looking for a way for it all to come to my HTC WM6 inbox.
test7875 said:
Hi all,
A quick question.
I just started syncing mail with my wm6 device.
Problem is i have rules forwarding mail to my pst. These mail messages do not get forwarded to my device, so i miss out on them until i come back to my pc with outlook.
I tried to move all the folders under inbox and it will sync mail but you dont get any notifications.
Is there an app that i dont know about? Has anyone doing anything differently or can you suggest something.
thanks in advance.
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I use an Exchange 2003 server at work and outlook 2007 on my laptop and WM6 on my PDA and they all sync just fine. If you use Exchange, here is what I did:
All rules created on my laptop (Outlook 2007) are server side. You have the option of making rules either client side or server if you did not know.
I use Emoze ( www.emoze.com ) to sync everything up since for some reason I can not get activesync to work properly (certificate problem).
Check it out, it is free and it works very well.
I have 18 sub-folders that sync perfectly!
-asb
you can get them to sync but no notification
to get the emails to the phone just go to outlook on the phone and go to tools then manage folders and there you can check which folder you would like to sync to the phone
but the phone will not notify you when you get a new msg in anything other then the indox folder
still cant figure that one out
My work, unfortunately, uses Groupwise and I'm gonna get no support in getting a Groupwise mobile server or anything setup, so I'm stuck with syncing local for contacts and appts and tasks. I am, however, using and IMAP access to get my emails, and this works pretty well with the default Pocket Outlook email client.
One thing missing is that I have a couple of subfolders where I have rules that automatically direct emails from like my Boss or other people into the folder so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of other stuff. However, I'm not getting notification when new emails are pulled into those folders. If I go into my email program I can see that I have new emails there, but I get the buzz or message icon that I have new emails. Is there anyway to make it so when new messages get pulled into the subfolders that I also get notified?
Ideally I'd REALLY like to stick with the default email program as I'm also using Mobile Shell and mobile shell apparently only integrates with the default email app.
RedRamage said:
My work, unfortunately, uses Groupwise and I'm gonna get no support in getting a Groupwise mobile server or anything setup, so I'm stuck with syncing local for contacts and appts and tasks. I am, however, using and IMAP access to get my emails, and this works pretty well with the default Pocket Outlook email client.
One thing missing is that I have a couple of subfolders where I have rules that automatically direct emails from like my Boss or other people into the folder so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle of other stuff. However, I'm not getting notification when new emails are pulled into those folders. If I go into my email program I can see that I have new emails there, but I get the buzz or message icon that I have new emails. Is there anyway to make it so when new messages get pulled into the subfolders that I also get notified?
Ideally I'd REALLY like to stick with the default email program as I'm also using Mobile Shell and mobile shell apparently only integrates with the default email app.
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I would like the same.
I have never found a fix to this issue and IIRC it is a limitation of the software.
I am using gmail so I just set up forward rules and dummy accounts. So I had account X with sub directory Y I have the email intended to Y get forwarded to account A and set A as a separate account. I dont know if this would work with mobile shell ( if it only looks at the outlook account)
tedet said:
I have never found a fix to this issue and IIRC it is a limitation of the software.
I am using gmail so I just set up forward rules and dummy accounts. So I had account X with sub directory Y I have the email intended to Y get forwarded to account A and set A as a separate account. I dont know if this would work with mobile shell ( if it only looks at the outlook account)
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It is indeed an Outlook issue. It only sends alerts on mails in the inbox. On my exchange server, the emails are redirected on the server before Outlook ever sees that they touch the inbox and thus no alert.
The only solution is some sort of third-party app, that would be nice.
If you're using Groupwise as your mail server, what is the email client you run on your workplace computer? And your workplace computer OS?
If your accessing Groupwise mail through Outlook on your work computer, your rules can be setup as client side instead of server side rules. If Groupwise behaves like a MS Exchange then your client side rules would only process when you're logged into your Outlook client. So when you're not in front of your PC, you wouldn't move your mail from your Inbox. Thus making them invisible to Pocket Outlook.
Or you could setup some special notification or delayed move rules. Again assuming you're using Outlook. Ornic InboxRules can be used to create some complex rules if you go that route. I haven't personally used it, but I used the predecessor to it called CaTrap to parse the sender, subject, and parts of the body into a another email and forward that via SMS to my phone.
If you can manage to get stuff to your Pocket Outlook Inbox, there are a few good tools that will give you advanced notification options on your phone. See this thread for details. Hope this helps to get you started.
You can see on http://www.magica.ro/pda_pocket_checkmail.php an application which solves your problem; it works together with ActiveSync and Outlook Mobile in order to alert users about unread mails in Inbox and Subfolders.
You can test it by downloading the demo version.
We published version 2.0 of CheckMail application.
New features are:
- displays messages on "Today Screen";
- audio alert when new messages are received;
- audio reminder if the new messages where not read (the interval when these verifications are made is selectable by user);
- by taping on CheckMail application, user can open Messaging application (Outlook);
- user can select in CheckMail application not to check Inbox (only subfolders).
Visit http://www.software.magicashop.ro/pda_pocket_checkmail.asp to see details and demo application.
Is there anything out there that would give pocket outlook e-mail filter capability like the desktop version to move email to a certain folder based on the senders address? I found a program called Pocket Outlook Mail Organizer and it gives outlook the ability to setup message rules but I would like to see if there are any alternatives specifically free ones.
If your using a MS Exchange account for your email, rules like that are handled by the server. Just set them up in outlook or OWA, then the message is filtered to the folder as soon as it hits the server... You don't need to do anything on your phone...
You do have to setup each of the subfolders to sync via the manage folders menu on your phone and WM won't alert when a new message arrives in these folders.
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If your using a MS Exchange account for your email, rules like that are handled by the server. Just set them up in outlook or OWA, then the message is filtered to the folder as soon as it hits the server... You don't need to do anything on your phone...
You do have to setup each of the subfolders to sync via the manage folders menu on your phone and WM won't alert when a new message arrives in these folders.
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Sounds good...if you do not have exchange are their any options?
Im surprised that no one has reply with a answer that does not require exchange, how are u guys filtering the e-mail you receive?
Well, I have a small problem...
On my laptop and hd2 I selected: keep messages on server, so when I delete them from laptop or phone, emails can still be stored on main computer, because they are kept on mail server...
But after I run sync on my main pc, messages are deleted form the server, and all ok with that, I want them to be deleted so I have more free space for new email's.
But when I send/receive email's on hd2, the old email's aren't shown anymore, I guess they delete themselves because they aren't on email server anymore?
But some one these email's are important because they keep important information or just something I might need, and I would like to keep them on the phone.
Is it possible to prevent them from being deleted after they are already downloaded to the hd2?
Thanks
From my experience it has to do which kind of server you are using. I know that pop3 servers do not save the emails on the server once they are downloaded to your client. Try using an imap server if your email provider has one.
Edit: when i read your question again I think I missread it the first time.
I use pop and everything works fine on laptop.
Problem is only on hd2, email's which aren't on server when sync begins are deleted...
I know that e-mails are still kept on POP3 server but hd2 somehow deletes its internal view and shows only last e-mails (last day(s)). I do suspect that there is possibility somewhere to define view window (e.g. 2 weeks or more ....) to see all e-mails.
Can anybody help ?
I have the same problem. After some days (I think 3) the EMail Client on the HD2 deletes (or doesn't show) previous emails when you connect to the server to get new ones.
There has to be some option to prevent it from doing this...?
I might be wrong in this, but my understanding of the "keep messages on the server" setting is that the server is the main source of messages, and they are not deleted from there simply by viewing them no another machine. It also means that the other machines (PCs, laptops, phones etc.) only get copies of the messages, leaving the originals where they are. It does, however, mean that you can delete a message from a machine where you are viewing it and it expects you to mean that you wish to delete it from the server.
Like I said, I may be wrong in that, but that's my understanding.