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I cant beleive the trinity will not have a keyboard. This still leaves on my quest to find the perfect device. Instead of waiting for HTC i decided to do some looking around. I found this gps receiver. http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/holux-gr240.php . I was wondering if it would be possible to input this inside the tytns casing. Its been a while since my electrical courses but i think the logic would handle the power issue if we got rid of the battery and just piggybacked it off the tytns board.It even has a slider switch so it would be easy to input it somehwere out of the housing. has anyone ever opened up a tytn and seen if theres any space to fit the gps anteena and the baord. any comments?
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I cant beleive the trinity will not have a keyboard. This still leaves on my quest to find the perfect device. Instead of waiting for HTC i decided to do some looking around. I found this gps receiver. http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/holux-gr240.php . I was wondering if it would be possible to input this inside the tytns casing. Its been a while since my electrical courses but i think the logic would handle the power issue if we got rid of the battery and just piggybacked it off the tytns board.It even has a slider switch so it would be easy to input it somehwere out of the housing. has anyone ever opened up a tytn and seen if theres any space to fit the gps anteena and the baord. any comments?
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hi, not opend my tytn yet...
but i dont think theres any space free...
not so much like the platine and the cabels and the antenne needs...
maybe when there is an big accupack available like von the vpa compact 2 with a bigger accucover then you have space...
I was looking at the 8525, it's rumored to have the front camera removed, maybe some space opened up there...
Guys, come on!
Some of the best new GPS receivers are TINY!
I've got a GlobalSat BT359, and you could velcro attach it to the back of your TyTN. It wouldn't look any bigger than a phone with an extended battery. BTW, I didn't choose the BT359 for size (rather for performance). I'll bet you can find smaller still...
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Guys, come on!
Some of the best new GPS receivers are TINY!
I've got a GlobalSat BT359, and you could velcro attach it to the back of your TyTN. It wouldn't look any bigger than a phone with an extended battery. BTW, I didn't choose the BT359 for size (rather for performance). I'll bet you can find smaller still...
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Ya, but I don't want to velcro it there. I want my phone to still fit in my leather holster. If we can get it onto the board you also don't have to worry about charging to devices as the gps will piggyback power off of the tytn.
Good luck with that!
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Good luck with that!
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I've done a lot harder projects than this!
Well, in case anyone is still paying attention to this, ive gotten one step closer to maybe getting this to work. I ordered a gpslim 240 and checked out it guts. Ive succesfully got it to run off a k-jam battery. My concerns were the voltage being 3.7 to 3.3 on the gps. Everything works out fine and the logic on the board seems to handle evrything else. The only problem so far is stuffing it into the case. i opened up my k-jam case and there seems to be some room in there,but im waiting for the 8525 to test. I tried to get it in my buddys 6700 but there is no room in there at all. Hopefully the tytn is more like the k-jam and some space is availble. Hopefully all said and done with removing the stock gps battery and stuffing it into the tytn board, there will be only one device to carry and charge.
Remember to take pictures while you are doing all this!
It will make me cringe to see a tytn pulled apart like this but I see want to see it
yup,plan on taking lots.just need cingular release the 8525 already! i would feel more comfortable doing this with insurance.
you are joking about the insurance aren't you? there is no way an insurance company would ever pay out if you broke your phone whilst trying to mod it. Unless of course you're thinking of "losing" the phone should it break.
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you are joking about the insurance aren't you? there is no way an insurance company would ever pay out if you broke your phone whilst trying to mod it. Unless of course you're thinking of "losing" the phone should it break.
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exactly... ive never had insurance before, but apperently this is one of the best benefits of the program that im mising out on.
8525 Camera
The 8525 has the front camera covered up by the faceplate -- the camera itself is still there, just hidden. They also disable it in their ROM...
(At least that's the case when it comes to the 8525 I saw last week -- we stuck a pocketknife blade under the adhesive metallic faceplate and peeled it up a little)
So.. you're not gaining any extra space under there for a GPS receiver.
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exactly... ive never had insurance before, but apperently this is one of the best benefits of the program that im mising out on.
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Unfortunately, Cingular doesn't offer insurance on PDA phones. You'd have to go with a third party company like SafeWare or your homeowners/renters insurance.
Wow, this would be very cool indeed!
I guess with the 8525, if the front camera is disabled anyway, you could just remove it yourself and free up some space for the gps unit. I own a vario II with the front cam enabled, but if i could replace it for a GPS i'll readily do it.
Good luck & keep us posted!
Breaking news on GPS capabilities: The TyTN is verified to have a Qualcomm MSM6275 radio chip. Here's a quote from Dr. Sanjay K. Jha, executive vice president and president of QUALCOMM CDMA Technologies with regards to the MSM6275:
...This integrated solution also includes support for QUALCOMM's gpsOne(R) position location technology....
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What is gpsOne? Here:
http://www.cdmatech.com/products/gpsone.jsp
Now for the kicker. The MSM6275 is one of the most advanced GPS enabled radio chips that Qualcomm makes. It has fast satellite acquisition, standalone mode and enhanced navigation support built in. Here's the datasheet describing this:
http://www.cdmatech.com/products/gpsone.jsp
The relevant table is on the last page.
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The 8525 has the front camera covered up by the faceplate -- the camera itself is still there, just hidden. They also disable it in their ROM...
(At least that's the case when it comes to the 8525 I saw last week -- we stuck a pocketknife blade under the adhesive metallic faceplate and peeled it up a little)
So.. you're not gaining any extra space under there for a GPS receiver.
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hmm...do you think this could only be pre-production models? I could always remove the camera, seems it would be a while before its widespread over here
Unfortunately, Cingular doesn't offer insurance on PDA phones. You'd have to go with a third party company like SafeWare or your homeowners/renters insurance.
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Crap, ill juts have to be more careful!
And in terms of the qualcomm chip, from what ive seen there no antenna in the tytn. So is this traditonal gps,agps, or something new?
@benfica88: see the latest comments in this thread, it is being discussed / researched over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279151
Hi,
any1 knows how to find (eBay preferably) an Hermes 100 full housing replacement?
I've got a Vodafone V1605 and so an Hermes 200 housing but i prefer Hermes 100 one.
You can easily find the not real display units for the 8525 on ebay. The only difference between those and a real one is the lack of hardware and the missing front camera hole
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You can easily find the not real display units for the 8525 on ebay. The only difference between those and a real one is the lack of hardware and the missing front camera hole
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Sorry but i didn't understand what you said. I had to buy a mock-up of a 8525?
And for the camera hole?
This is what you need; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OEM-Housing-f...oryZ3728QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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This is what you need; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OEM-Housing-f...oryZ3728QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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Thanks man! That's what i need!
I've found somethinf similar (but dopod branded) @ http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-8525-c-277_322.html
But including shipping I think that your's cheaper.
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You can easily find the not real display units for the 8525 on ebay. The only difference between those and a real one is the lack of hardware and the missing front camera hole
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I bought one of these "display" units and they are NOT the same. They are much flimsier, the back door is fused on which means you can't take it apart without breaking it, the keyboard sliding mechanism is looser and not designed for repeated use, all of the buttons are fused to the outer case and are not real buttons, etc.
Do NOT buy the 8525 dummy case as a case replacement, I guarantee you won't be happy with the result.
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I bought one of these "display" units and they are NOT the same. They are much flimsier, the back door is fused on which means you can't take it apart without breaking it, the keyboard sliding mechanism is looser and not designed for repeated use, all of the buttons are fused to the outer case and are not real buttons, etc.
Do NOT buy the 8525 dummy case as a case replacement, I guarantee you won't be happy with the result.
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Thanks dude
Has anybody bought either of these? I'd be interested to know what the quality is like (I've bought a replacement for my wife's nokia N73 and it was very poor compared to the original...) Are they as good as the originals?
Also, I have a vario II which has a different button layout on the front - would the dopod example on cnn.cn still work with mine (I much prefer the button layout on that one to the vario one...)
Thoughts please everyone
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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Has anybody bought either of these? I'd be interested to know what the quality is like (I've bought a replacement for my wife's nokia N73 and it was very poor compared to the original...) Are they as good as the originals?
Also, I have a vario II which has a different button layout on the front - would the dopod example on cnn.cn still work with mine (I much prefer the button layout on that one to the vario one...)
Thoughts please everyone
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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The different key layout is only in the outside but inside the PCB is the same.
I'm looking for Hermes 100 housing only for esthetical reason.
Hello,
Would someone please recommended a good/decent wired headset/mic earphone? Ideally one with the USB male end that the Tilt will accept.
Thanks.
if you have a good set of 3.5mm headphones you can use this
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=866
I just got mine, works great. A bit hard to insert the male into the kaiser for the first time (in my case it was to big for the female, lol)
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if you have a good set of 3.5mm headphones you can use this
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=866
I just got mine, works great. A bit hard to insert the male into the kaiser for the first time (in my case it was to big for the female, lol)
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Thanks ekw.
That may be a viable option.
Tex........
I got something similar in the retractable InEar Isolators, also from Seidio (http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=777)
i can confirm that they work well, both in the sense of working well with the kaiser and also working well in terms of sound quality. I have only had them for a while and don't make that many phone calls, but have had no complaints so far about the mic quality, but still too early to judge on this.
my main complaint is the way the jack bends to the right, which obstructs taking the stylus out on my kaiser. i can still take it out, but only with considerable effort.
Anyone know if a straight plug version is avail?
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I got something similar in the retractable InEar Isolators, also from Seidio (http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=777)
i can confirm that they work well, both in the sense of working well with the kaiser and also working well in terms of sound quality. I have only had them for a while and don't make that many phone calls, but have had no complaints so far about the mic quality, but still too early to judge on this.
my main complaint is the way the jack bends to the right, which obstructs taking the stylus out on my kaiser. i can still take it out, but only with considerable effort.
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Thanks for that mini review. Is anyone aware of a seller in the UK with a straight plug version of these? I'd rather avoid the $25 postage they charge to post it to the UK. What an oversight to not consider whether the stylus can be removed properly when the headset is plugged in It makes me wonder if they actually tested out a prototype before putting them into production. The way I see it, the only acceptable plug shape is straight because even if it bent 90 degrees to the other side then it would interfere with any attached lanyard, bent up would obstruct the microSD slot and down means the device wouldn't sit flat.
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Thanks for that mini review. Is anyone aware of a seller in the UK with a straight plug version of these? I'd rather avoid the $25 postage they charge to post it to the UK. What an oversight to not consider whether the stylus can be removed properly when the headset is plugged in It makes me wonder if they actually tested out a prototype before putting them into production. The way I see it, the only acceptable plug shape is straight because even if it bent 90 degrees to the other side then it would interfere with any attached lanyard, bent up would obstruct the microSD slot and down means the device wouldn't sit flat.
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This might work for you. http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=148518&asource=151713
BTW, anyone try this yet??
It has a straight plug, and you can get it from expansys UK...
I've been happy with the HTC OEM earphones from this guy: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OEM-STEREO-...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hard to beat his price - less than five bucks delivered in the US. I was impressed enough that I went back and bought a second pair.
The USB jack on the ones that I have bends 90 degrees to the left, so the stylus isn't covered.
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This might work for you. http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=148518&asource=151713
BTW, anyone try this yet??
It has a straight plug, and you can get it from expansys UK...
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Thanks for the link. It’s not worth me crossgrading from the original HTC supplied headset for those - they seem much the same sort of thing. If you look at the other link I was referring to you'll see they're the sort of earphones that go right into your ears. The problems I have with my current original TyTN II headset include the foam 'socks' falling off regularly (the original socks only lasted a month or two and as HTC don't sell replacements, I'm now using Motorola ones) also they're a less than comfortable fit. If enough people enquire with Seidio then it may speed up the process of them releasing straight plug versions (hopefully with a decent carrying box).
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I've been happy with the HTC OEM earphones from this guy: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-OEM-STEREO-...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hard to beat his price - less than five bucks delivered in the US. I was impressed enough that I went back and bought a second pair.
The USB jack on the ones that I have bends 90 degrees to the left, so the stylus isn't covered.
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Thanks! Just ordered one...
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Thanks! Just ordered one...
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Same here.
For all of you who don't like these standard-earphones:
http://www.digitec.ch/?param=toppreise&wert=146036
With this one, a change of earphones is possible!
I go to the gym a lot and see quite a few people with iPods strapped to their arms. Some have their iPhones as well.
I'm wondering if there is an arm strap that would fit the Titan (xv6800) even if it is not entirely designed for it.
I'm planning on using my Motorola Bluetooth headset to rock out while I work out. So access to buttons is not really needed. Just touch screen.
THere is no item that fits or no one exercises?
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THere is no item that fits or no one exercises?
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Who has time to workout?!?!? I am always tweaking my phone and installing all these updated ROMS !!
What is this "exercise" you speak of?
devir said:
I go to the gym a lot and see quite a few people with iPods strapped to their arms. Some have their iPhones as well.
I'm wondering if there is an arm strap that would fit the Titan (xv6800) even if it is not entirely designed for it.
I'm planning on using my Motorola Bluetooth headset to rock out while I work out. So access to buttons is not really needed. Just touch screen.
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I just ordered an arm band from ebay. It hasn't come in yet so I can't comment on it but I'll certainly let you know how I like it.
Try this.....you can usually pick some up relatively cheap. Not the most stylish.....but hey, it works for everything!
well I was going to recommend a shoe string but I think the duck tape is the ultimate solution. Way to go McGuyver. I looked around (only foir a short period) and did not see any type or workout strap for that phone. Perhaps a universal or generic case/strap would be better. I'll keep my eyes open.
Another solution is to somehow extend your bluetooth range (that is if you're staying in one general area) and just wear your headset instead so you dont have to carry your phone around.
ipods look fine strapped to arms, but the mogul is too big and heavy. I wouldn't trust any strap to hold this titan down. Even if it doesn't fly off at high velocity, it might get bumped on machinery.
The only true solution would be wolverine-style adamantium bone-grafted mogul holder with mini-usb and audio connectors.
It's only a matter of time people. Don't just hold your phone, click it onto your skeleton!
What?!??? Isn't carrying this brick around work-out enough?!???!???
The armband from ebay came in and it works fine (look for iphone sport and you'll find it) It's definitely a tight fit but there is absolutely no chance of it coming out. $6 shipped.
I also read on PPC geeks that the dimensions of the original Zune are similar. So a sports band for the Zune will probably work too
I use the stock holster, i put it on my back and work out! I have the motorola s9 bluetooth. So far no uissues at all.
I bought one for the Zune and use that...it works pretty well
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I bought one for the Zune and use that...it works pretty well
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Could you put a picture of it here ? or a link to it ?
I am wondering how it looks like.
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Could you put a picture of it here ? or a link to it ?
I am wondering how it looks like.
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Get this, I have it and it works great; great for running and everything else. Touchscreen works too.
http://www.tunebelt.com/domino/tunebelt/tunebelt.nsf/ab8
Hi all,
Does something similar to the Brodit mounts exist on the market? I'd like to have something as good as the Brodit but they're so expensive.
24 euros for the Promount for my car and 29 euros for the Touch Pro passive holder . For 2 pieces of molded plastic !!!
If I can't find something else, I'll buy a generic "clamp" holder to fix to the airvents (I don't like something attached to the windshield) but it's not as practical as the Brodit.
With a lot of people buying new cars or new PDAs, I can't believe there isn't a website selling second hand Brodit mounts. Or is there one?
How about a Brodit mount at £29.00? Saw one at blueunplugged.com. I have never used them I am waiting for the postman to deliver my touch pro. But I will be giving them a go in a day or two. The feedback on them seemed ok, yes a couple of dissatified customers but lots of 9/10 and 10/10 too
hi,
i got this one:
http://www.pda-punkt.de/pda/htc/touch-pro-zubehoer/aktiv-kfz-halterung-htc-touch-pro.html
it's working perfectly. you still need a mounting part, but at least it's an active mount for the price of a passive brodit.
I also have a problem with the price for the Brodit's considering they are just a piece of molded plastic.
Has anyone tried something like the Igrip universal mounts? http://www.amazon.com/gripper-holder-gooseneck-suction-phones/dp/B000JERG36
A generic solution would be way more practical as I could use it with other devices than the TP...
Three Weeks ago i bought one of these: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=160290613605 ... shipped from hongkong for about 7 euro ... im impressed of the quality, my touch pro fits perfect in it, because its adjustable ...
the only thing, it vibrates a bit with the "flexible-arm" ... but with the "bonding foil" its just perfekt ...
Ordered my Brodit "Active" mount for £29.00. It arrived next day. With the Euro/GBP exchange rate cant think of a good reason to buy a "Walt Disney" copy!
I ordered an Igrip instead cost me an equivalent of £15 including shipping in Sweden. It's Universal so I can use it for any device and suction cup so I can use it in any vehicle. I change device more often than I change underwear and I want to be able to bring the mount with me when travelling by air/train and having a rental..
Brodits are good if you have the same device and the same car for a very long time -- but I can't simply justifty the cost for that little piece of impractical plastic...
Sometimes I just hate XDA. I keep finding things from other countries that I want. Those Brodit mounts are very neat looking. But I must tell you. I have this generic mount I got from PDair.com that has spring loaded sides that you simply push together and the pressure holds the device quite securely, at least for non offroad travel.
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Sometimes I just hate XDA. I keep finding things from other countries that I want. Those Brodit mounts are very neat looking. But I must tell you. I have this generic mount I got from PDair.com that has spring loaded sides that you simply push together and the pressure holds the device quite securely, at least for non offroad travel.
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It was exactly one of those I got. I have been using it for a day and a half and it works great so far. The suction cup was unbelievably strong compared to the ones I've used with GPS:es in the past.
Are you guys talking about this? http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000489&products_id=12317
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Are you guys talking about this? http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000489&products_id=12317
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Yup! Looks exactly like that one so I guess so.
The exception is I have a compact mount not a gooseneck. I've been using mine daily now in the car and I'm still as happy with it. Excellent value for money. (I have used it with the TP and my wife with a P1i and an Xperia.)
The only issue for me is that it sometimes presses the down-volume button on the side, I solved this by simply mounting the phone 4-5 mm higher.
//H
pdcpa said:
Sometimes I just hate XDA. I keep finding things from other countries that I want. Those Brodit mounts are very neat looking. But I must tell you. I have this generic mount I got from PDair.com that has spring loaded sides that you simply push together and the pressure holds the device quite securely, at least for non offroad travel.
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The Brodit clips are available in the US via (Proclip - still pricey, but well worth it in my opinion. Just ordered by Fuze holder today to replace my Cruise (Polaris) holder.
pdcpa said:
Sometimes I just hate XDA. I keep finding things from other countries that I want. Those Brodit mounts are very neat looking. But I must tell you. I have this generic mount I got from PDair.com that has spring loaded sides that you simply push together and the pressure holds the device quite securely, at least for non offroad travel.
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Proclipusa.com is who is the USA dealer for the Brodit line. I have one in my car and there is a reason it's expensive...because it's nearly perfect. I like how everyone devalue's "molded" plastic (not you). I'm sure no engineering or research went into making model specific mounts for just about every vehicle on the market
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I like how everyone devalue's "molded" plastic (not you). I'm sure no engineering or research went into making model specific mounts for just about every vehicle on the market
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Well, no one is argueing with that... But the fact is that they're awfully expensive and now there seems to be good alternatives. I had never seen the use of this spring-loaded design earlier.
I also wonder why Brodit does not provide suction-cup mounts for their holders?? I really love the "phoneholder" from the Brodit, but the thing I dislike the most is the proclip-car-mount itself. I want to be able to remove the mount and move it to another car or just removing it when parking while travelling. The latest trend in Sweden is that burglars systematically smash windows on cars with GPS-mounts, just to check if the owner might have forgot the GPS in the car. So, being able to remove the mount is quite an important feature at least for me...
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Well, no one is argueing with that... But the fact is that they're awfully expensive and now there seems to be good alternatives. I had never seen the use of this spring-loaded design earlier.
I also wonder why Brodit does not provide suction-cup mounts for their holders?? I really love the "phoneholder" from the Brodit, but the thing I dislike the most is the proclip-car-mount itself. I want to be able to remove the mount and move it to another car or just removing it when parking while travelling. The latest trend in Sweden is that burglars systematically smash windows on cars with GPS-mounts, just to check if the owner might have forgot the GPS in the car. So, being able to remove the mount is quite an important feature at least for me...
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Yikes, I can see why you would want to remove it then. That really sucks.
PDA mount holder
http://shop1.frys.com/product/5342198?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
i picked this up at Frys the other day and it works well i can add a charger to it while docked, or use the headset. it can rotate 360 degrees it also comes with the AC vent clips if the windshield mount is not legal in your state/country.
I got these together:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=174210
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=145598
EDIT: Case is terrible, you have to slide the keyboard in a plastic pouch and it doesn't work good at all. Sent the case back but I like the magnetic mount now I use it with the Noreve case.
I change phones more often than I change cars.
I use the Brodit/proclipusa car mount with a Krusell "Button mount". See Here.
When I change devices, I just get the Noreve case with belt clip and it fits my generic mount!
If you want to add tilt & swivel then you can by adding Brodit/Proclip tilt & swivel with blank face.
Finally I got a Herbert Richter mount, one part that is attached to the airvent, one that holds the Touch Pro.
The set is very small and I like the way the TP is hold into it. Want some pictures?
how about this:
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03722&dept_id=039&cat_id=1149
at USD30, is still expensive but has speaker & mic, can function as handfree. free shipping worldwide as well...