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Hey Guys,
I am sure I could do this with Windows 6.. or was it Windows 5??
Anyways, I want a password pin on my phone, but only when I turn it on.
At the moment, I have "Prompt if device unused for" set to 0 minutes. This means when I turn it off, it asks for a password when I turn it on again. The annoyance of this is that it also locks when I am reading emails etc.
I want to be able to have the device NOT lock unless I switch it off!
I seem to remember there was a setting, that you could enable power on password only.
Any help appreciated. It's driving me insane!
SadisticRabbit said:
Hey Guys,
I am sure I could do this with Windows 6.. or was it Windows 5??
Anyways, I want a password pin on my phone, but only when I turn it on.
At the moment, I have "Prompt if device unused for" set to 0 minutes. This means when I turn it off, it asks for a password when I turn it on again. The annoyance of this is that it also locks when I am reading emails etc.
I want to be able to have the device NOT lock unless I switch it off!
I seem to remember there was a setting, that you could enable power on password only.
Any help appreciated. It's driving me insane!
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You need to go to settings > personal > phone > PIN/PIN2 and set PIN for phone. Now if you reset your device it should prompt you for a PIN
Hey There,
Many thanks for the reply. Sorry, I should have been clearer. This is not actually when powered off and on, I mean when I put it in standby by quickly pressing the power button, not resetting or restarting the device.
Basically what I want it to do is this...
When using the phone, it doesn't lock (password lock, not button lock).
When I press the power button to put it into standby, then when re-activated, it asks for the password.
My last Touch HD was stolen, and didn't have a password on it. I don't want that to happen again, so want it to ask for the password every time it is tuned on (bought out of standby), but I also don't want the hassle of having to enter the password every time the "prompt is device used for" activates. I read ebooks on my touch and it's a pain having it keep asking for the password. If I set the delay too long however so it doesn't interrupt me, there is a possibility that if it's stolen, it will be unlocked when it is.
I set a password on my phone (the pattern lock) and I don't see any option for a "Buffer time" or "time out" option. On 2.2.1 I had, I remember setting it to 15 minutes so that once I unlocked the phone, any time i have to re-wake the phone within 15 minutes of putting in my password, it won't ask me to put my password in.
With CM7, if the light goes off and I have to rewake it, it asks for pattern lock every single time. Even seconds apart. Is there any option around this or am I not looking hard enough?
kettlecorn said:
I set a password on my phone (the pattern lock) and I don't see any option for a "Buffer time" or "time out" option. On 2.2.1 I had, I remember setting it to 15 minutes so that once I unlocked the phone, any time i have to re-wake the phone within 15 minutes of putting in my password, it won't ask me to put my password in.
With CM7, if the light goes off and I have to rewake it, it asks for pattern lock every single time. Even seconds apart. Is there any option around this or am I not looking hard enough?
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Settings ->CM Settings->Lockscreen settings->Delay & Timeout->Screen Timeout Delay
Is this what you were looking for? Thats what I use but I don't have the pattern lockscreen because I'm not scandalous! haha just jokin'
colbyrainey said:
Settings ->CM Settings->Lockscreen settings->Delay & Timeout->Screen Timeout Delay
Is this what you were looking for? Thats what I use but I don't have the pattern lockscreen because I'm not scandalous! haha just jokin'
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Yes! Thanks wow how did I miss that?
kettlecorn said:
Yes! Thanks wow how did I miss that?
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Be sure to hit the thanks button on my user name I don't know how you missed it, but glad I could help!
My Gnex was stolen a few months before I got my N4, and although I tried to track it the thief was "clever" and simply turned the phone off. I think he then took the SIM out before turning it back on, so that even when powered up it never connected to the network and he had time to wipe/sell/use my device. The biggest lesson I learned was to lock my phone, and so my N4 has a PIN code. However, I was thinking that a thief could still do the same thing if this one is ever misplaced and I would be screwed. Is there a way to prevent someone from shutting down the phone without unlocking the device? At least this way you would be able to track it or install tracking software until the battery dies.
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My Gnex was stolen a few months before I got my N4, and although I tried to track it the thief was "clever" and simply turned the phone off. I think he then took the SIM out before turning it back on, so that even when powered up it never connected to the network and he had time to wipe/sell/use my device. The biggest lesson I learned was to lock my phone, and so my N4 has a PIN code. However, I was thinking that a thief could still do the same thing if this one is ever misplaced and I would be screwed. Is there a way to prevent someone from shutting down the phone without unlocking the device? At least this way you would be able to track it or install tracking software until the battery dies.
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I have Avast! installed on mine and when I changed out the Sim at the store the other day, the phone freaked out and sent me text messages (to my backup phone number) of the location and the new phone number. I'm about 90 percent sure that some of the other settings in the app lock the ability to wipe the phone... but I'm new to this Android thing and I could be wrong (workaround via fastboot?).
Anyway, if this is the case, Avast should calm your fears... plus its free.
What if the other person simply turns the phone off?
theres nothing you can do after they turn it off they will just restore the device, even if your carrier blocks your imei number, they can just use the phone in another country ,you can only protect your information on the device
If you have a rooted device you can install Cerberus as a system app, so it will survive to wipe. But disable power off is impossible.
I realize it is impossible to disable power off (for good reason!), however there should be a way to disable it when the phone is locked. In fact, I cant think of a single reason the phone SHOULD allow you to power it down while it is locked.
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I realize it is impossible to disable power off (for good reason!), however there should be a way to disable it when the phone is locked. In fact, I cant think of a single reason the phone SHOULD allow you to power it down while it is locked.
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A single reason?
You turn your phone screen on. It randomly locks up and not responding.
Oh no what do I do now?! I can't pull my battery!!!!!!
Long press hold for 10 seconds. Phone turns off.
Long press is encoded within the phone and can't be disabled, it's down to the bootloaderish level.
My lock screen won't stay set to a unlock method. I have changed the unlock to patternpattern, pass code, and fingerprint. After a little while it goes back to just swipe. Even though, I'll go to the setting and it'll say it's still set to whatever method I have it set to. But for whatever reason the actual lock screen goes back to swipe. Also when it does work, the fingerprint reader is hit and miss. I'll have fingerprint and password or code and then the fingerprint reader won't even recognize I'm trying to use it. Anyone else having similar issues or know of a fix?
tyoder87 said:
My lock screen won't stay set to a unlock method. I have changed the unlock to patternpattern, pass code, and fingerprint. After a little while it goes back to just swipe. Even though, I'll go to the setting and it'll say it's still set to whatever method I have it set to. But for whatever reason the actual lock screen goes back to swipe. Also when it does work, the fingerprint reader is hit and miss. I'll have fingerprint and password or code and then the fingerprint reader won't even recognize I'm trying to use it. Anyone else having similar issues or know of a fix?
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It actually is staying what you set it at.
Samsung as usual has set up some stupid defaults for this phone.
Go here and set it to Instantly and it will work as you expect.
Settings > Quick Settings > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Secure lock time > Instantly with the power key or when the screen times out
With those settings every time you unlock your phone you will need whatever security you set.
With the default settings Samsung has it so your phone will only lock if you do not touch the phone for 10 minutes..... real secure there Samsung...
As for the fingerprint reader, when you set it up hold the phone like you would be unlocking it and use every part of the finger during the setup process.
I added both thumbs and index fingers using the tip, flats, and sides of each during the setup process.
If for some reason it does not want to read still, you can set up the same finger multiple times, do one as just the flat, one as the sides, one as the tip.
Milimbar said:
It actually is staying what you set it at.
Samsung as usual has set up some stupid defaults for this phone.
Go here and set it to Instantly and it will work as you expect.
Settings > Quick Settings > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Secure lock time > Instantly with the power key or when the screen times out
With those settings every time you unlock your phone you will need whatever security you set.
With the default settings Samsung has it so your phone will only lock if you do not touch the phone for 10 minutes..... real secure there Samsung...
As for the fingerprint reader, when you set it up hold the phone like you would be unlocking it and use every part of the finger during the setup process.
I added both thumbs and index fingers using the tip, flats, and sides of each during the setup process.
If for some reason it does not want to read still, you can set up the same finger multiple times, do one as just the flat, one as the sides, one as the tip.
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That's exactly how everything is set up on my device though. I have it set to lock immediately and did all angles of my fingers. Still won't keep the lock screen set and won't read the fingerprints. It doesn't give me a does not match message or anything. At least when that happens, I know it's trying to read my finger.
tyoder87 said:
That's exactly how everything is set up on my device though. I have it set to lock immediately and did all angles of my fingers. Still won't keep the lock screen set and won't read the fingerprints. It doesn't give me a does not match message or anything. At least when that happens, I know it's trying to read my finger.
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In that case I do not know.
You could try a factory reset, but I do not know if that will help.
If mine did that I would be returning it for a replacement.
Also make sure settings/lock screen/secure lock/smart lock isn't set to anything that's trusted.
Smart lock leaves the phone in swipe unlock if it recognizes your phone is at your home..or hook up to your Bluetooth, etc.
tyoder87 said:
That's exactly how everything is set up on my device though. I have it set to lock immediately and did all angles of my fingers. Still won't keep the lock screen set and won't read the fingerprints. It doesn't give me a does not match message or anything. At least when that happens, I know it's trying to read my finger.
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So after digging around some more, I found out what was happening. I have a Moto 360 paired to my phone. I had it as a trusted device and that's what was allowing me to do swipe while still having the lock screen set to something else. However, my fingerprint reader is still acting up. It's still not even trying to read my fingerprints.
tyoder87 said:
My lock screen won't stay set to a unlock method. I have changed the unlock to patternpattern, pass code, and fingerprint. After a little while it goes back to just swipe. Even though, I'll go to the setting and it'll say it's still set to whatever method I have it set to. But for whatever reason the actual lock screen goes back to swipe. Also when it does work, the fingerprint reader is hit and miss. I'll have fingerprint and password or code and then the fingerprint reader won't even recognize I'm trying to use it. Anyone else having similar issues or know of a fix?
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Go to settings and search smart lock... It shows that if you ate home the screen stays unlock but if u leave anywhere it'll lock..you can turn the location off when. You get into smart lock
The same thing is happening with mine (SM-G935A AT&T). However, when I go to the secure lock settings, it keeps changing from lock instantly to the maximum setting (which shows as 34 minutes and 7 seconds). Smart Lock has been completely disabled by system administrator (I get my corporate email on my phone). Every time I go in and change the secure lock to instant, it reverts back within the next 30 minutes.
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The same thing is happening with mine (SM-G935A AT&T). However, when I go to the secure lock settings, it keeps changing from lock instantly to the maximum setting (which shows as 34 minutes and 7 seconds). Smart Lock has been completely disabled by system administrator (I get my corporate email on my phone). Every time I go in and change the secure lock to instant, it reverts back within the next 30 minutes.
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Mine is doing the same thing automatically changes to 34 min and 7 seconds secured lock time without me changing it from instantly w power key so frustrating
[email protected] said:
Mine is doing the same thing automatically changes to 34 min and 7 seconds secured lock time without me changing it from instantly w power key so frustrating
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If you don't mind me asking, what device administrators do you have setup? Currently I have my company exchange policy, Lookout Mobile, AT&T Protect Plus and Android as registered administrators. I'm starting to wonder if its the combination of services like maybe the Protect Plus and Lookout.
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If you don't mind me asking, what device administrators do you have setup? Currently I have my company exchange policy, Lookout Mobile, AT&T Protect Plus and Android as registered administrators. I'm starting to wonder if its the combination of services like maybe the Protect Plus and Lookout.
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Hi! Lookout, email and Android device manager are all administrators I think in personal settings
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Hi! Lookout, email and Android device manager are all administrators I think in personal settings
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I figured out the issue, at least for me. First I tried to disable both Lookout and ATT Protect Plus as device administrators but still the lock setting would revert to 34 minutes and 7 seconds. In my account settings for my corporate email, there was a link for all security policies. Sure enough, the screen lock policy showed as 2047 seconds which translates to 34 minutes and 7 seconds. I cannot change the option as that is the corporate policy set by the server.
This is an issue with Samsung s7 including the edge. Mine was playing up from the day I got it. I took it into carphone warehouse assuming it was a setting and the guy serving me basically said to send it back. I eventually got a refund from Samsung (it was painful) and then I stupidly bought another one of these overpriced, over hyped pieces of **** from John Lewis instead. I've always used windows (mobile (i.e. what I'd call old android and what XDA was made for) and then windows phone and briefly windows 10 mobile. From my short experience of using the so called best android phone I have to say gimmicks aside, the features both phones share, windows destroys android, emails, documents, ease of use, fluidity, user experience....oh and a working lock screen. Not happy and it's my own fault, I fell for mass marketing and believing the hype.
I think I found the answer
tyoder87 said:
My lock screen won't stay set to a unlock method. I have changed the unlock to patternpattern, pass code, and fingerprint. After a little while it goes back to just swipe. Even though, I'll go to the setting and it'll say it's still set to whatever method I have it set to. But for whatever reason the actual lock screen goes back to swipe. Also when it does work, the fingerprint reader is hit and miss. I'll have fingerprint and password or code and then the fingerprint reader won't even recognize I'm trying to use it. Anyone else having similar issues or know of a fix?
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If you have a device like a Bluetooth paired with your s7 edge, make sure that smart lock isn't on. Once I changed that that setting, it stays locked.
Can you describe how to find this page (that showed 2047 seconds)? I want to see if my company IT will change this.
Hi I have s7 edge, here's the problem is I cannot touch the screen, already do hard reset and rebooting still the screen cannot touch. I could not unlock my s7 edge.
Thanks for the help
Originally Posted by Milimbar It actually is staying what you set it at. Samsung as usual has set up some stupid defaults for this phone. Go here and set it to Instantly and it will work as you expect. Settings > Quick Settings > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Secure lock time > Instantly with the power key or when the screen times out With those settings every time you unlock your phone you will need whatever security you set. With the default settings Samsung has it so your phone will only lock if you do not touch the phone for 10 minutes..... real secure there Samsung... As for the fingerprint reader, when you set it up hold the phone like you would be unlocking it and use every part of the finger during the setup process. I added both thumbs and index fingers using the tip, flats, and sides of each during the setup process. If for some reason it does not want to read still, you can set up the same finger multiple times, do one as just the flat, one as the sides, one as the tip.
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Thank you for the tip it really helped me fix the lock on my new samsung galaxy amp prime!!!!
Restart your phone
tyoder87 said:
My lock screen won't stay set to a unlock method. I have changed the unlock to patternpattern, pass code, and fingerprint. After a little while it goes back to just swipe. Even though, I'll go to the setting and it'll say it's still set to whatever method I have it set to. But for whatever reason the actual lock screen goes back to swipe. Also when it does work, the fingerprint reader is hit and miss. I'll have fingerprint and password or code and then the fingerprint reader won't even recognize I'm trying to use it. Anyone else having similar issues or know of a fix?
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I made sure i made my password effective immediately (it was set to 5 seconds) after you lock your phone and it didn't work.
Then I realized that I didn't restart my phone yet.
Lock screen was effective immediately after I restarted my phone. Solved my case!
Fixed
Its quite simple, it is smart as samsung has made s7/edge to recognize you and let your phone stay unlock whenever it is around you. Once, it has been unclocked by you, you dont have to set in the passcode each time to look at your phone. But dont worry, it will revert back to lock mode once it noticed that you'v set it aside on a surface i.e leaving it. Should you want to make your phone locked at all time whenever you want it, simply change the setting as follows: Setting > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Smart lock > (enter your pin) > On-body detection > set it to off. Whallaaa!! Problem solved.
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tyoder87 said:
My lock screen won't stay set to a unlock method. I have changed the unlock to patternpattern, pass code, and fingerprint. After a little while it goes back to just swipe. Even though, I'll go to the setting and it'll say it's still set to whatever method I have it set to. But for whatever reason the actual lock screen goes back to swipe. Also when it does work, the fingerprint reader is hit and miss. I'll have fingerprint and password or code and then the fingerprint reader won't even recognize I'm trying to use it. Anyone else having similar issues or know of a fix?
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Its quite simple, it is smart as samsung has made s7/edge to recognize you and let your phone stay unlock whenever it is around you. Once, it has been unclocked by you, you dont have to set in the passcode each time. But dont worry, it will revert back to lock mode once it noticed that you'v set it aside on a surface i.e leaving it. Should you want to make your phone locked at all time whenever you want it, simply change the setting as follows: Setting > Lock screen and security > Secure lock settings > Smart lock > (enter your pin) > On-body detection > set it to off. Whallaaa!! Problem solved.
Go to settings/lock screen and security/other security settings/trust agents and turn off Google Smart lock option.
You are back to instant phone lock.
Cheers🖒
I bought two Galaxy S7 Edge phones recently and have noticed this issue on both phones now. Both are also updated to the latest firmware. Both of us have fingerprints set up and a pattern backup. So far, the issue has occurred to us both twice. I happen to always use my fingerprint to unlock and she always uses pattern out of habit from a past phone. She brought it to me a couple of days ago and said her phone says to wait 60 minutes and try again. I asked how many times she entered it wrong, because of course I thought she entered it wrong. She said she didn't enter it incorrectly. I asked if she tried to reboot, of course not. Anyways, I held on to it and after 60 minutes I entered the pattern to unlock her phone and sure enough it wouldn't work. I rebooted, and tried again and it worked. OK...Weird.
The very next day, it happened on my phone. I always use my fingerprint though so it told me no match found. Say what? Tried again. Same thing. OK, swipe and tried my pattern. It says its incorrect and to try again in 30 seconds. 30 seconds later, I tried again and it locked me out for 60 seconds. This time I rebooted, and after it was done and 60 seconds had passed my pattern was working again.
I don't get why it randomly seems to not recognize that we are putting in the correct pattern or fingerprint. I am however happy that a reboot seems to resolve the issue. Is no one else experiencing this?
Mine doesn't lock instead!
So I tried couple of things. Rebooted, re-initialized Finger Prints and even pattern. Now matter what I do, it won't lock the phone. It will just unlock without asking for passcode, pattern, password or fingerprint. Only option I can think of is to restore the phone and try setting up lock option but that's pain in the a**!! I tried third party apps as to lock screen but none of them have the fingerprint unlock option! And some have ads and weird setup which worked... Gettting frustrating. Perhaps I should try restoring phone if there's no other option left
shunail said:
So I tried couple of things. Rebooted, re-initialized Finger Prints and even pattern. Now matter what I do, it won't lock the phone. It will just unlock without asking for passcode, pattern, password or fingerprint. Only option I can think of is to restore the phone and try setting up lock option but that's pain in the a**!! I tried third party apps as to lock screen but none of them have the fingerprint unlock option! And some have ads and weird setup which worked... Gettting frustrating. Perhaps I should try restoring phone if there's no other option left
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Entirely different. I'm not sure this is actually an issue as much as it is probably settings. Go to settings, Lock screen and security, Secure lock settings. Check how long Lock automatically is set for (mine is for 5 seconds after the screen turns off automatically and that is set for 2 minutes.). Then turn on lock instantly with power key. Go to smart lock and see if that's being used. IF it is it would keep your phone unlocked when its connected via Bluetooth to a device you told it to trust, or when you are at a trusted place via google maps (such as home or work), or it could simply know your voice, or lastly if it senses that it is on your body (I don't get this one. Seems very insecure, like anyone could pick it up and it would just unlock.). Good luck!
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Entirely different. I'm not sure this is actually an issue as much as it is probably settings. Go to settings, Lock screen and security, Secure lock settings. Check how long Lock automatically is set for (mine is for 5 seconds after the screen turns off automatically and that is set for 2 minutes.). Then turn on lock instantly with power key. Go to smart lock and see if that's being used. IF it is it would keep your phone unlocked when its connected via Bluetooth to a device you told it to trust, or when you are at a trusted place via google maps (such as home or work), or it could simply know your voice, or lastly if it senses that it is on your body (I don't get this one. Seems very insecure, like anyone could pick it up and it would just unlock.). Good luck!
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Forgot to mention, have done all of that. First I had it set Lock Automatically to immediately and tried 5 seconds, 15 seconds to all the 30 minutes, still won't lock (over night till I wok up in the morning)
Smart Lock:
Trusted Device are my car and my watch, but even with bluetooth disabled (just to give it a shot) it still doesn't lock.
Trusted Place: my home, but even with Location Service (GPS) turned off, still won't lock
On body Detection = Off
Trusted Voice = Off
Tried updating phone perhaps something may fix it, nothing.
Tried Security Policy updates and that says ... updated to latest version...
Been using Android since good old HTC Evo days and had no issue with my (last) Note 4 locking with fingerprint!! I love this phone really expect for this issue. Oh yes and another issue, gestures won't work also!!! Tried hand gestures for screenshot, nothing. Smart Stay doesn't work also!!!
Is something wrong with this phone perhaps??
shunail said:
Forgot to mention, have done all of that. First I had it set Lock Automatically to immediately and tried 5 seconds, 15 seconds to all the 30 minutes, still won't lock (over night till I wok up in the morning)
Smart Lock:
Trusted Device are my car and my watch, but even with bluetooth disabled (just to give it a shot) it still doesn't lock.
Trusted Place: my home, but even with Location Service (GPS) turned off, still won't lock
On body Detection = Off
Trusted Voice = Off
Tried updating phone perhaps something may fix it, nothing.
Tried Security Policy updates and that says ... updated to latest version...
Been using Android since good old HTC Evo days and had no issue with my (last) Note 4 locking with fingerprint!! I love this phone really expect for this issue. Oh yes and another issue, gestures won't work also!!! Tried hand gestures for screenshot, nothing. Smart Stay doesn't work also!!!
Is something wrong with this phone perhaps??
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Hmm.. Have you tried turning off Smart lock all together? Otherwise, all I can think is to factory reset settings before you factory reset the phone.
Factory Settings Reset did it
Factory Settings Reset did it however gestures and smart stay are still issues!! Then I courage myself to do Factory Phone Reset and dang the issue with the gestures persists!!
Bump.
No one else is having this issue? I just happened to be the only one with two new phones that do it?
This literally just happened to me! I was walking to a friend's house and was using the phone just fine - was using Facebook Messenger and Spotify. All of a sudden, I try to unlock it (I have a pattern to draw, not a code) and it doesn't work. I have no idea what's going on but I don't want to factory reset and lose all my contacts and pictures. I only have four tries left to unlock it before it automatically resets itself. I've tried using the Android Device Manager to set a temporary password but since there's already a pattern to draw it won't bypass the lock screen for some reason. I never thought to check the security settings on my phone (why would I if I had a lock screen on it?) so I can't use the Samsung equivalent either. I'm extremely frustrated - been looking for help for about an hour and I'm finding absolutely nothing. It's clearly been a problem before and yet there's no solutions or explanations as to why it's happening??
While I am still having this issue sparsely, I can get around it simply by rebooting. It's just annoying to have to do so.
It's anew feature of S7 called SMART LOCK, meaning your phone knows if you're in a safe place such as your Home, your Car or if you paired a smart watch with your phone and added it as trusted device, as long as you're connected to your watch, the phone knows you're in a safe place so you dont need to enter password to your phone. Or if youre in your car or at Home, then you wont need to enter password to open your phone. But if you want to remove this feature and want to swipe or enter your pin no matter where you are then do this..go to:
SETTING>LOCK SCREEN & SECURITY>SECURE LOCK SETTING>SMART LOCK. Here you'll see "Trusted Places" and "Trusted Device" Just edit or press and hold whatever is in there, e.i your watch, your home address etc...then remove and you should be good to go.
Have you tried turning off Smart lock all together? Otherwise, all I can think is to factory reset settings before you factory reset the phone.