IMAP Folders - save sent msgs to another folder than "Sent Items"? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi everyone, I've looked EVERYWHERE and I can't find anything about this. Its kind of difficult to describe but someone on here has to know what I'm talking about.
I recently bought an IMAP email hosting account. They do this weird thing where the "Sent", "Trash" and "Drafts" folders are all subfolders of the Inbox, rather than separate and along side them. In the phone, the folders come up as "Inbox.Sent", "Inbox.Trash", "Inbox.Drafts".
Whenever I write an e-mail on my 8525, I would like it to save a copy of the sent e-mail. There is of course the option to "Save sent messages to 'Sent Items' folder" but since that folder does not exist, it just does not save anything.
Is there ANY way to make it so it saves the sent e-mails to "Inbox.Sent"? Like a registry edit? Any and all help greatly appreciated. I will buy you a beer or something. Thanks!

I am wondering the same thing myself, actually. Have you figured out a solution, or does anyone else know of one?

Okay, for me, I had to change my "Sent" folder on my server to "Sent Items". Once I did that it began working properly. I just reassigned my sent folder using Mail (on a Mac).

Unfortunately Outlook cannot be assigned to 'non-root' Sent Folders. At this point I see 3 options.
1) Contact your service provider and ask them to give you an IMAP account wth the Sent Folder in the ROOT and not under Inbox. I have noticed this kind of hierarchy only with Linux operated Mail Server space. Check if they will be willing to switch you over to a Windows Mail Server which has the Sent Items folder under the ROOT.
2) Manually copy all the email from your PPC Sent Items folder to 'Inbox.Sent' folder on the server.
3) Use Flexmail 2007. It's an excellent email program and offers several advanced mailing features. It even allows you to designate any folder on the server as a Sent Items folder. This way you wil have a copy of all your sent email as well.

Or if you run your own mail server you can symlink to your Sent folder.
ln -s .Sent .Sent\ Items

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Vanishing sent messages / IMAP

I searched on this forum for the answer and could not find it, so I apologize in advance if I missed it. I am set up for email with IMAP and whenever I send a message from my desktop computer, those emails show up on my Qtec in the sent messages folder. However, when I send messages from my Qtec, they are sent, but vanish completely from my sent messages (or any folder) on my Qtec or my desktop. I have no records of the emails I have sent from my handheld. My temporary workaround has been to cc myself and then move the received email into the sent messages folder, but thats a pain and not the way its supposed to work. Thanks in advance.
did you look in the messaging app
under the menu iteoms tools then options ou see a tab called message.
make sure keep copies of sent items in sent folder is ticked.
I admit I've been Googling
I'm having the same problem on a different Windows Mobile 5 device; I've ticked that setting (as well as syncing the "Sent Items" folder), but the messages still disappear. The same problem occurred on my older Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition device. Very odd.
bug in Pocket Outlook WM5 IMAP sent items problem
its a bug... Its unbelievable that they havent fixed it in WM5 either! I've also been struggling to use this, the keep copy of sent items option being ticked doesnt work with IMAP for some daft reason.
I did some searching on the internet, and the (apparent) reason is to minimise memory usage on the pocket pc, which is fine for POP but the whole concept of IMAP is that all the email is on the server not on the device! So it really is a lack of foresight on the part of microsoft not to think about this, after all this is a great business tool, so the need for decent IMAP checking of sent-items is essential when you are "on the move"
Come on everyone, lets all complain to microsoft to fix this, It seems another solution is to use "flex mail" which has the ability to use a memory card as storage. I'll let everyone know my findings on wether it is a better solution than the built in email pocket outlook client.
Derek
I just tried Flexmail... doesnt work...
I sent the following email to the developers to gain a bit of interest (hopefully)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hardware: jasjar / xda exec - WM5
Version: 2.2
Mail Server Name: own webserver with IMAP support
Connection Used: GPRS
Protocols Used: IMAP
SMS Integration: on
Type of Issue: IMAP Synchronization
Beta version Used:
Issue:
Hi there, I installed your software to hopefully get around the problem where all pocket PC's do not allow access to the "sent items" folder from the device. As I wish to use this device for business it is vital that I can see what email's I have sent from either my desktop PC (running Outlook Express 6) and my xda when out of the office.
Your program seems to work fine (the trial version) but the sent items does not seem to be on the server, but locally stored, which again negates the whole point of imap.
On the Flexmail program, a folder called "Sent" exists which is not on the server. So I see no way of actually using your program to achieve what I need it for!!!
If you plan on fixing this in the next release please let me know asap... as a lot of people on xda-developers.com are scratching their heads in disbelief that microsoft has not fixed such a fundamental bug!
Regards
Derek Foley
I just tried Flexmail... doesnt work...
I sent the following email to the developers to gain a bit of interest (hopefully)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hardware: jasjar / xda exec - WM5
Version: 2.2
Mail Server Name: own webserver with IMAP support
Connection Used: GPRS
Protocols Used: IMAP
SMS Integration: on
Type of Issue: IMAP Synchronization
Beta version Used:
Issue:
Hi there, I installed your software to hopefully get around the problem where all pocket PC's do not allow access to the "sent items" folder from the device. As I wish to use this device for business it is vital that I can see what email's I have sent from either my desktop PC (running Outlook Express 6) and my xda when out of the office.
Your program seems to work fine (the trial version) but the sent items does not seem to be on the server, but locally stored, which again negates the whole point of imap.
On the Flexmail program, a folder called "Sent" exists which is not on the server. So I see no way of actually using your program to achieve what I need it for!!!
If you plan on fixing this in the next release please let me know asap... as a lot of people on xda-developers.com are scratching their heads in disbelief that microsoft has not fixed such a fundamental bug!
Regards
Derek Foley
Solved - simple workaround
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to solve the problem of seeing sent items on an xda and outlook express as well with IMAP.
After much "mucking around" with different email clients, and not to mention finding some that work with WM5, I eventually figured out a workable solution - It involves installing and using flexmail instead of pocket outlook that comes with the pda.
Flexmail runs as a trial demo... to purchase it is $19.95, it also has SMS capability, and after installing and a restart replaces the messaging link on the today screen.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm&tab_id=purchase
There is one extra step involved to make it work, so its not ideal, (see my earlier posting to the software company who make it) but it means you can achieve what you desired and see all emails sent from either the laptop/desktop pc and pda.
I think if you want to try this solution, It might be an idea to make sure you're using a memory card as this program can be configured to save emails to the memory card, which could be useful if you have large email attachment such as a scanned document, which might fill up the internal memory on the phone easily.
While digging around I found a Viking 2GB SD card (£40.26 ex vat)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=104113
Instructions
1) install and configure flexmail on your xda/pda to access your IMAP server
2) set up an IMAP email account on your PC with a mail client (e.g. Outlook Express 6)
2) make sure synchronise is set on all folders on the PC and the pda
3) for reference - the IMAP "sent folder" on the server is called "Sent Items"
On flexmail, however, it stores any pocket pc outgoing emails in its own "local folder" called "sent". This is not uploaded for some strange reason.
Therefore to view the emails from anywhere, on flexmail, after sending, just open the "sent" folder and then go to the menu, and move the email into the imap folder called 'Sent-Items'.
A send and receive will upload these items, moving them out of the "local folder" and will then enable them to be viewed on any IMAP client - also on the pda from the same folder.
Flexmail also seems to support html email - which is nice! It has lots of configurable options and seems to be a great bit of software.
Obviously there might be some connectivity issues with larger file attachments over GPRS using IMAP. So try and find a 3G spot if you can - or someone's WIFI router for bigger attachments!
Derek
Solved - simple workaround
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to solve the problem of seeing sent items on an xda and outlook express as well with IMAP.
After much "mucking around" with different email clients, and not to mention finding some that work with WM5, I eventually figured out a workable solution - It involves installing and using flexmail instead of pocket outlook that comes with the pda.
Flexmail runs as a trial demo... to purchase it is $19.95, it also has SMS capability, and after installing and a restart replaces the messaging link on the today screen.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm&tab_id=purchase
There is one extra step involved to make it work, so its not ideal, (see my earlier posting to the software company who make it) but it means you can achieve what you desired and see all emails sent from either the laptop/desktop pc and pda.
I think if you want to try this solution, It might be an idea to make sure you're using a memory card as this program can be configured to save emails to the memory card, which could be useful if you have large email attachment such as a scanned document, which might fill up the internal memory on the phone easily.
While digging around I found a Viking 2GB SD card (£40.26 ex vat)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=104113
Instructions
1) install and configure flexmail on your xda/pda to access your IMAP server
2) set up an IMAP email account on your PC with a mail client (e.g. Outlook Express 6)
2) make sure synchronise is set on all folders on the PC and the pda
3) for reference - the IMAP "sent folder" on the server is called "Sent Items"
On flexmail, however, it stores any pocket pc outgoing emails in its own "local folder" called "sent". This is not uploaded for some strange reason.
Therefore to view the emails from anywhere, on flexmail, after sending, just open the "sent" folder and then go to the menu, and move the email into the imap folder called 'Sent-Items'.
A send and receive will upload these items, moving them out of the "local folder" and will then enable them to be viewed on any IMAP client - also on the pda from the same folder.
Flexmail also seems to support html email - which is nice! It has lots of configurable options and seems to be a great bit of software.
Obviously there might be some connectivity issues with larger file attachments over GPRS using IMAP. So try and find a 3G spot if you can - or someone's WIFI router for bigger attachments!
Derek
Solved - simple workaround
Yesterday I spent a few hours trying to solve the problem of seeing sent items on an xda and outlook express as well with IMAP.
After much "mucking around" with different email clients, and not to mention finding some that work with WM5, I eventually figured out a workable solution - It involves installing and using flexmail instead of pocket outlook that comes with the pda.
Flexmail runs as a trial demo... to purchase it is $19.95, it also has SMS capability, and after installing and a restart replaces the messaging link on the today screen.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail&dir=wm&tab_id=purchase
There is one extra step involved to make it work, so its not ideal, (see my earlier posting to the software company who make it) but it means you can achieve what you desired and see all emails sent from either the laptop/desktop pc and pda.
I think if you want to try this solution, It might be an idea to make sure you're using a memory card as this program can be configured to save emails to the memory card, which could be useful if you have large email attachment such as a scanned document, which might fill up the internal memory on the phone easily.
While digging around I found a Viking 2GB SD card (£40.26 ex vat)
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3Jldmlld3M=&product_uid=104113
Instructions
1) install and configure flexmail on your xda/pda to access your IMAP server
2) set up an IMAP email account on your PC with a mail client (e.g. Outlook Express 6)
2) make sure synchronise is set on all folders on the PC and the pda
3) for reference - the IMAP "sent folder" on the server is called "Sent Items"
On flexmail, however, it stores any pocket pc outgoing emails in its own "local folder" called "sent". This is not uploaded for some strange reason.
Therefore to view the emails from anywhere, on flexmail, after sending, just open the "sent" folder and then go to the menu, and move the email into the imap folder called 'Sent-Items'.
A send and receive will upload these items, moving them out of the "local folder" and will then enable them to be viewed on any IMAP client - also on the pda from the same folder.
Flexmail also seems to support html email - which is nice! It has lots of configurable options and seems to be a great bit of software.
Obviously there might be some connectivity issues with larger file attachments over GPRS using IMAP. So try and find a 3G spot if you can - or someone's WIFI router for bigger attachments!
Derek

IMAP to gmail configuration?

Hi,
I'd like to configure Windows Mobile to make that the delete mail action in my gmail account archives the mail instead of deleting it.
I've read some post over the web talking about this issue, and giving some solutions, but none of them for Windows Mobile.
In essence, the solution implies to change the "label" that is associated with the delete action, so it must change from "[gmail]/trash" to "[gmail]/All mail" (this is my own interpretation of what I've read, very simplified ), but I don't know how to do this. I've searched the registry and the file system looking for some configuration entries, but I've been unable to find any
Any ideas? Is this possible to do?
(my ppc is a HTC TouchHD, by the way)
thanks
1 of the differences between imap and pop3 is that
imap dont delete the mails
you should try to change to pop3 in your pda
Use the IMAP connection and just move the messages to a folder on your PPC, this will change the tags in your gmail account. Thus moving the email from your Inbox to the folder of your choice.
Hi again,
Thanks Rudegar and Deedee for your replys. (sorry for my delayed answar, but I've been out of home some days)
Rudegar, I've been testing the pop3 access, but I have a problem. I use POP (with MS Outlook) in my main computer, so I always have my mails there and organized as I want (folders, subfolders, filters to delete, move, etc...) This is my main "mail box" and I like it this way 8·). The problem now is that if I download one mail from one pop3 "reader" (be it the PC or the PPC) the other one "loses" the mail. I suppose that gmail marks the mail as downloaded by pop so it is not "served" anymore. This makes the pop option "not an option" 8·(
Deedee, I've been playing a little more with the IMAP folders, and, as you say, I can move the messages to folders. The problem here is that this is not so easy as simply deleting it, and letting gmail to keep it archived. What I want is to be able to delete the messages but to be sure that there are kept safe by google, just in case ;·)...
What I want to do is exactly what is described in this page (http://vjarmy.com/archives/2007/10/tutorial_easy_archiving_for_gmai.php), but I don't know if there is some way to do the same in Windows Mobile
Thansk again for your help 8·)
it's done! well... in fact it has been always done! 8·)
As a nice "side efect" of using a spanish version of Windows Mobile, mails are never marked as "Trash", but as "Elementos eliminados", what, of course, gmail does not understands and treats it as a normal label. So emails are never sent to the trash folder, wich is what I wanted! 8·)
So problem solved! Thanks again for your pattience 8·D

MS Outlook Exchange users: Sent Items folder is empty

I've had my X1a for a few months now and is synced with my work's Microsoft Outlook Exchange server. I can send and receive e-mails fine and everything seems to work except after I send an e-mail from my phone, the message doesn't go to the Sent Items folder.
However, in my MS Outlook program on my laptop which I use for syncing (with WMDC) and is also set up with my e-mails through the Exchange server, I can see my sent e-mails in the Sent Items folder even when I send e-mails from my X1a. So I know there is nothing wrong with the Exchange server and it is a problem with the phone.
On my X1a, when I go into my Outlook E-mail options, I have the "Keep copies of sent items in Sent folder" checkmarked but nothing shows up in the Sent Items folder after I send an e-mail.
Any one know a solution to this?
you need to set up your sync folder settings. by default wm will only sync your inbox and none of your other folders. iirc it should be under tools -> folders and check the sent items folder to be sync'd as well. i don't have the phone in front of me right now, so this is from memory. play around with the settings and you'll see it.
Yes that's the way...
Inbox > Menu (right soft key) Tools > Manage folders> Check sent items.
Then just sync again.
omg you guys made my day! thank you!!!!!
i can't believe it was something so simple..
mods, please close

Gmail sent mail sync problem solved

So I've been having a few issue with gmail and it not syncing with the sent mail folder. There's been a few posts on here, but I thought I'd start a new one for a 'new' solution for those that may still be having issues. I solved it mostly through help from wacky.banana (many thanks) and a bit of good fortune.
Anyway I was following advice on here that once I'd set up my googlemail account on my HD2 only inbox was synced as default, so you need to go into menu from the inbox folder>tools>manage folders and tick the box for sent mail. What I've just noticed is that when you click manage folders and it takes you to the screen with the different folders with the check boxes, it says "sent items" rather than "sent mail". I've been ticking this assuming it was my "sent mail" folder, and so only been getting mail sent using the HD2, and not been able to access older sent mail, nor does it sync with sent mail from my PC.
What I accidently found this morning was that in the manage folders page, if you expand google mail by pressing the box with + in it you will now get a folder saying "sent mail". Tick this box and everything works ok. To some of you on here this might seem totally obvious, but to those of us new to winmo it's not, and I though some of you might have been doing the same as me
My only gripe with it now is that when you go to the sent mail folder you can't catagorise it by recipient, so everthing comes up with my name/email address. Does anyone know if there's some way you can get it to sort via recipient name?

Email: Synch 'Sent' Folder Only?

Is there a way to synch ONLY the 'sent items' folder via ActiveSync or do you have to also keep copies of the various messages from Outlook also on your phone?
Bump. Anyone?
connect phone to pc, on pc open windows mobile device center, click mobile device settings - change content sync settings - email sync settings - untick the folders you dont want and tick those you do (sent items in this case)
Sorry, I think I didn't express that well. I want to synchronize only the sent items from my phone to Outlook on the desktop so that I can preserve any replies I send from the road while having the original message downloaded to my desktop when I return home. The settings you describe will only synch MS Outlook items with the 'Outlook' folder on my PC, and the accounts I set up on my phone do not appear in the folder tree to be selected. So that configuration won't work for me.
It seems that no combination of what I want is possible with the current software, yet I can't believe I'm the only one with this need.
Let me explain.
I use Outlook on my desktop and only use the phone for reading and replying to messages on-the-fly. Knowing that I will have a copy of the POP message on my laptop (which serves as my home pc also) when I get back at night, I only want to file and keep a copy of any replies I make from the road. My hope was to have any sent items uploaded to my laptop, I can run rules on MS Outlook to autofile to their respective folder structures, and I'm done - both received POP messages and their corresponding replies are preserved.
I own a copy of FlexMail, but it won't synch with Outlook, so that's not a solution. And there doesn't seem to be anything else out there that'll do what I need.
Any thoughts?
Bump. Anyone?
Guys, just to reiterate the question...
How would you get (move/copy/backup) messages from the local email accounts you set up on your HD2, to your Outlook PST on the desktop?

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