Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use WEP 128 bit encryption with the Wi-Fi adapter on the Hermes
Thanks
leswaller said:
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to use WEP 128 bit encryption with the Wi-Fi adapter on the Hermes
Thanks
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Yes it is, but if you use a passphrase like "myhomenet" or the like i.e. when you set up your router you entered a name/word as a password, then do not put this name in when setting up on the Hermes.
It accepts the the password much better in Hexadecimal format. So go here:
http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi
and the site will convert the password into hexadecimal for you. Use the one it generates for 128 encryption.
Mike
If your router is set to broadcast its identity then Hermes will detect the network and ask you to enter the password. If not you will need to be armed with the network name as well as the hex password and you will need to go to wifi settings and add them manually.
Thanks Mike
I understand that bit, but how does the hermes diferentiate between 64 bit and 128 bit keys? On the router I select one or the other, but I can't find a means of doing this on the Hermes/mobile 5. If I try and enter a 128 bit key I appear to run out of space before I get to the end of the key
Les
leswaller said:
Thanks Mike
I understand that bit, but how does the hermes diferentiate between 64 bit and 128 bit keys? On the router I select one or the other, but I can't find a means of doing this on the Hermes/mobile 5. If I try and enter a 128 bit key I appear to run out of space before I get to the end of the key
Les
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That's ok so long as it keeps entering as you type it will just slide along as you type.
Mike
PS once entered the number of *s will not equal the number of didgits you entered (that's a normal security measure)
I find it easier to get someone to shout out the digits as I type them in. Or use hitchhiker that allows you to cut and paste the key in.
Thanks Mike, Succesfully connected. Will the Hermes remember the key, especially if I log on to another network
Les
leswaller said:
Thanks Mike, Succesfully connected. Will the Hermes remember the key, especially if I log on to another network
Les
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Let me put it this way - it's supposed to. I have mine setup for both home and work networks and all works well. However for some reason in the early days it had a habit of forgetting but that was nearly a year ago - its all settled down now - I just tap on connect wherever I am and it auto connects to the appropriate network.
Mike
Many thanks for your help Mike, I will keep my fingers crossed.
Les
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My friend was boasting about how secure his network is and how nobody could ever hack into it. I am able to pick it up on my Universal, but it asks me for the WEP code. It would be very funny if I could use his connection after all his boasting :twisted: ! So, is there any app that can do this - perhaps by guessing all possible combinations until it gains access, or any other way?
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WEP is an older security method that has been proven to be hackable and especially true if the 64-bit version is being used.
There are tools around to hack WEP security, but I doubt it is for PPC. Even for PC, it requires some drivers for the wireless card, and a lot of the wireless card are not supported, including Centrino.
Lets assume that you have the appropriate equipment. Depending on the key size your friend used, e.g. 64 / 128 bits, you are required to be there to capture enough data (approx 500Mb for 128bits, I think) to get enough 'clue' to decode the key being used.
Finally, lets assume you had the key. You boasting friend may have a second layer of protection with wireless MAC address filtering, which filter out un authorized units based on MAC address. Of cource, MAC address can be spoof, but doubt there are any easy method of PPC unit yet.
You need another laptop as well as the PPC.
Download and install: Auditor: http://www.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Main_Page it is basically a boot from CD Linux with just the tools you need to 'probe' networks. use the PPC to find the Mac address, SSID and channel. Then fire up the laptop and start using all the tools to crack the WEP. The more data going over the network, the faster the apps will be able crack the WEP code. If enough data is flowing through the router, it is possbile to crack a 128 bit WEP in 10-20 minutes. If you have two laptops, you can get the other one to talk to the router (with spoofed MAC) to increase the data.
As already mentioned, all this depends if your card is supported by the apps, and can be put in silent mode (if you don't want to draw attention to yourself)
Of course, it is much easier just to walk 50 yards down the street and find an unsecured network for your free Skype calls.
cough.
/Mad
Thanks for the help. How would I find the chennel and MAC address with my universal?! I just want to get into my friends as a joke, and so finding another network wouldnt be much help!!
Thanks
6680abhi said:
Thanks for the help. How would I find the chennel and MAC address with my universal?!
Thanks
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Mine is german, so my translations may be wrong
From the start menue
-> Settings
-> connections
-> Wireless-LAN
There you'll find the information you are looking for.
Do you have some experience with Linux? It's a bit more complicated than Windows Mobile
AFAIK for Wep cracking there are also a couple of programs for PocketPC existing which can do this within minutes.
but this depends strongly on the WLAN hardware.
Search in google for this.
BlackICE said:
AFAIK for Wep cracking there are also a couple of programs for PocketPC existing which can do this within minutes.
but this depends strongly on the WLAN hardware.
Search in google for this.
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Thanks for the help. I have serached on google, but am unable to find a wep cracking application for ppc. Could you perhaps give me a link to one?
Thanks
look here:
http://www.google.com/search?num=30...esnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=wlan+sniffer&spell=1
Thanks again, but could you please be more specific with an application, and post a link to the application, as I was unable to find anything by clicking on the google search you posted.
Thanks
6680,
it is easyer to use a notebook, preferrably with two Prism2 based network cards, and boot WHAX from a CD.
Let that run for some time and it'll find the WEP key for you.
It took more than 30 hours to get the key for my neighbours WLAN :?
I did not post you more specific links, as I have to look myself through all these links. Actually, some of the Wlan sniffer programms do have also a PocketPC version.
Actually, it is far more easier to use a notebook than a pda. Also I doubt that there is any program around, which is fully supporting the Wlan hardware of the Universal. At least this was the case half year ago.
My wifi keeps teeling my that I am using the wrong wep key to access my network. It says that the key is the wrong length, I use a text entry which the hermes doesn't appear to deal with and demands a hex key. Any ideas please?
leswaller said:
My wifi keeps teeling my that I am using the wrong wep key to access my network. It says that the key is the wrong length, I use a text entry which the hermes doesn't appear to deal with and demands a hex key. Any ideas please?
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That's OK use an online converter to convert your text to Hexadecimal.
Like this one:
http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi
Mike
What router/WiFi AP are you using
as it should show you the Hex key
I know my linksys one does, i can put in a password and it converts it to in the Hex and show me the Hex so i can copy it to my wifi devices
I would give this a read
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/15/wep_crack_interview/
I have just upped all my Wifi to WPA-TKIP
Had to upgrade the drivers on the laptop so that it would work with WPA-TKIP
I tried that and ended up with a much longer key than was showed by the series of ***** in my laptop wifi adapator. Tried it anyway, but it didn't work. Incidentally should I key in spaces between the hex values when entering the key?
Unfortunately my laptop adaptor just shows a series of **** for the hex code after I enter the text key.
I am aware that WEP has been cracked, but If I change everything to WPA-TKIP will it be any easier to configure
leswaller said:
Unfortunately my laptop adaptor just shows a series of **** for the hex code after I enter the text key.
I am aware that WEP has been cracked, but If I change everything to WPA-TKIP will it be any easier to configure
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What spaces??
And you cannot count the the ** as these are often programmed by design NOT to match the number of letters/numbers underneath.
I use 128 WEP encrytion which will always give a 26 digit Hexadecimal key.
Don't overcomplicate matters use the web page above.
It can be easier to have someone read it out as you type it in.
You cannot copy and paste the wep key on hermes stanard input so you have to take great care to enter correctly.
Also the Hermes can be a little temperamental getting the key in first time around. It sometimes helps to delete the network card in settings>connections and start afresh if you have been having several failed attempts. This cleans it out ready to start afresh.
Edit: It will NOT be easier to configure WPA-TKIP
Mike
wpa dont waste your time with hex it drives you nuts
wpa dont waste your time with hex it drives you nuts
Thanks Mike
You were right I was trying to be to complicated, using the onscreen converter worked first time. Many thanks again
Hi everybody, i have a ppc htc elf or touch, its like you want !
And a friend dared me to show him how to break his WEP key at home on his digital box which supply wifi connection, i actually did it at mine but he does believe me,cos he says that wpa2 are pain to use , i quite agree its different from WEP but a lot safer ! So do you know if there is some soft like winaircrack does exist for ppc !!???
yeah just look at his remote box and get the number fRom there.now that was easy greaseeee.lol
AirSniffer I think its called... Then move the packets to your desktop and crack the WEP code from there..
ok to crack wifi you need a ppc that has a wifi card that can go into monitor mode (Promiscuous Monitoring)as you need to capture iv packets also yes wpa2 is harder to crack as you need to be able to inject packets and i would be suprised if a ppc was capable of this
goto this site they have most ppc and network cards listed that are capable of cracking wifi :
Code:
http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php
wapvirus said:
ok to crack wifi you need a ppc that has a wifi card that can go into monitor mode (Promiscuous Monitoring)as you need to capture iv packets also yes wpa2 is harder to crack as you need to be able to inject packets and i would be suprised if a ppc was capable of this
goto this site they have most ppc and network cards listed that are capable of cracking wifi :
Code:
http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php
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Any idea how to create our own DLLs to link to the wireless card, as stated by the website? Thanks!
PPC has to many limiting factors one being the OS unless you have a linux based PPC it is much easier with the right tools all details can be found on that site or google
yup, have a nice linux partitioned o/s on ur laptop + aircrack and u can get free wifi within 4mins lol...wep keys r easy to crack
kleptodathief said:
yup, have a nice linux partitioned o/s on ur laptop + aircrack and u can get free wifi within 4mins lol...wep keys r easy to crack
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Which is why no one should use wep. Though technically here in the US cracking some ones wep key is a felony.
Sniff packet and crack help
hi guys i have windows mobile omnia lite..
i want to crack wep
what softwares i need for my ppc e.g. step by step sniffing the ackets and loading on pc and cracking it can you tell me step by step please thanks.
bugmenever said:
hi guys i have windows mobile omnia lite..
i want to crack wep
what softwares i need for my ppc e.g. step by step sniffing the ackets and loading on pc and cracking it can you tell me step by step please thanks.
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Use This
Google>BackTrack5>Visit There website, Should learn a few things there.
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i also think that would be airsniffer.
Or bought WifiRobin...
I upgraded my router's firmware to the DD-WRT and decided to go from my previous 24 character key to a new 64 character one.
I was able to connect to my WPA2 encrypted network fine with the old key but not the new one. I immediately get "Failed to connect to network"
I did some searches on google and the forum but have not found anyone with a similar issue. Are there any known issue with Android and overly secure networks?
joshtheitguy said:
I upgraded my router's firmware to the DD-WRT and decided to go from my previous 24 character key to a new 64 character one.
I was able to connect to my WPA2 encrypted network fine with the old key but not the new one. I immediately get "Failed to connect to network"
I did some searches on google and the forum but have not found anyone with a similar issue. Are there any known issue with Android and overly secure networks?
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use 63 characters (gives you a 256 bit hash anyway) more info: https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
Also reD-WRT from their help screen:
To use WPA Personal, enter a password in the WPA Shared Key field between 8 and 63 characters long. You may also enter a Group Key Renewal Interval time between 0 and 99,999 seconds.
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When you are copying and pasting, careful not to include a "space" at the end of your key... hard to see and causes all sorts of trauma.
All that said, my G1 and DD-WRT work great with WPA2 + AES
--M
joshtheitguy said:
I upgraded my router's firmware to the DD-WRT and decided to go from my previous 24 character key to a new 64 character one.
I was able to connect to my WPA2 encrypted network fine with the old key but not the new one. I immediately get "Failed to connect to network"
I did some searches on google and the forum but have not found anyone with a similar issue. Are there any known issue with Android and overly secure networks?
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Same problem for me. I just got an Android Dev Phone 1 and it won't take a 64 char hex key to our wireless router. I had to change the router to a 63 char non-hex key, then the phone would connect. This problem was not resolved by updating to the latest RC33 firmware. Has anyone reported it to Google, or know how to report it? People with iphones had no problem with the 64 char hex key, so they'd better get on it. =)
EDIT: I reported this issue at http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2009 so hopefully it will be resolved in a future release.
Why would anyone prefer a 64 number hex key over a 63 character ASCII key?
It's all just copy/paste anyway and the 63 character ASCII key provides more possible combinations.
t1n0m3n said:
Why would anyone prefer a 64 number hex key over a 63 character ASCII key?
It's all just copy/paste anyway and the 63 character ASCII key provides more possible combinations.
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When the wireless router originally asked for a 0-63 char "passphrase" OR a 64 char hex key, I figured the hex key would be more secure just because it was longer (I didn't think too hard about it). I now understand that they're more or less equivalent, but that doesn't mean Android shouldn't support the 64 hex option for those who have it set up that way. As it stands it took awhile to put the new 63 char key into a number of people's devices just so my one phone could work.
kanisdragon said:
When the wireless router originally asked for a 0-63 char "passphrase" OR a 64 char hex key, I figured the hex key would be more secure just because it was longer (I didn't think too hard about it). I now understand that they're more or less equivalent, but that doesn't mean Android shouldn't support the 64 hex option for those who have it set up that way. As it stands it took awhile to put the new 63 char key into a number of people's devices just so my one phone could work.
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I could see that as being a pain to deal with. However the OP said that this was a change anyway, so it wouldn't be a big deal to convert IMO.
The only thing I hate is a device that you can't copy/paste the key into (E.G. my PSP) I hate typing in all those characters.
I change my key about once a week anyway, so I am used to it. (And my PSP gets a less secure "guest net" to play on.)
Yeah, I know the Wpa key is encoded and thus not readable... But hang on, there's more to come.
At our work we use Symbol Mc7090 pda's which connect to the wifi network. The Mc7090's are setup with Symbol pocket browser 2.0 and symscript running on WM 5.
Recently I copied the contents of the Mc70 with a clone program to my own Mc70.
So far, so good. My personal device perfectly connects to the wifi network at my work, and I can use all functions and programs on the pda.
The other day I discovered that mostly all of the software the pda uses is webbased. So in fact it can be used with all devices that can make a connection to the wifi network.
Cool! what if I can find the Wpa key and enter it into my Ipad? That would be rather nice wouldn't it...
I started to dig into the guts of the pda:
When starting "Wireless launch" - Manage profiles - I can see the profile Wise.
This is the right profile. When I try to edit this profile I can see the ESSID (which I already found and tried to connect with my Ipad), Encryption is TKIP and passkey is ************. I expected that.
I installed PocketAsterisk, but this tiny prog isn't showing anything else then the damn asterisks....
So this is going nowhere...
back to "wireless launch".
When choosing options, there's "export". Here you can choose between "Export options" & "Export all profiles".
When choosen both options you get 2 files: WCS_PROFILES.reg & WCS_OPTIONS.reg.
I kinda expected to find a hex key or similar in either one of these files. But was I wrong or... I attached both files.... It must contain the key as far as I know.
Who can help me? Is it possible to find the key, or not? Am I wasting my time?
Is there no one who knows the answer?