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Yo!
Saw the other thread where the other guy initially could and then lost the ability to ActiveSync to his PC - exactly the same has happened to me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42520
Here is what I tried and it worked:
* Connect Pocket PC
* Go to Network Connections and Find the Local Area Network Connection for the Pocket PC
* Properties
* Make sure TCPIP is selected
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"Find the Local Area Network Connection for the Pocket PC" - NOPE!! no matter how many icons & tabs etc I tap, i simply CANNOT find this!
What I get on my PC is:
USB Device not recognised: Q: Is there a USB driver I need to install & if so where can I get it from (via the internet).
What I get on my Uni (eventually) is:
Pocket PC Networking
Unable to obtain a server-assinged
IP address. Try again later or
enter an IP address in Network Settings
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Server-assigned IP address??? You're kidding me right? I think I need some insight into what ActiveSync is actually doing here!
Yep, it's rant time boys & girls....
Now as an aside, is it just me but is something basically amiss with these things - Sync'ing to a PC SHOULD BE A BLOODY DODDLE- EASY - NO DICKING ABOUT, but hell no - infinite levels of crap to wade through encountering insane use of TLAs (yep, there you go, another one). God, why can't they K I S S ???? (and another one). What I mean is that I've been using PCs since day dot. I am an honours degree qualified electronics engineer - I desgin hardware & write real time embedded software systems, so if I am getting pi$$ed off with the damn thing, what chance has your average mug in the street??????? :shock:
Andy (currently rigging up a sturdy hessian rope with a noose in it)
PS
TLA = Three Letter Anacroynims (sp)
K I S S KEEP IT SIMPLE! STUPID.
Good-o, know one knows how to do this (what should be simple, but hell no) task.
Bloody great!
Can't sync to a PC, can't install any programs, utterly useless as a PPC device all down to some sh1te convoluted bollocks piece of software.
I can now measure time wasted in YEARs on similar, badly written software.
Andy
hey dude
take a few deep breaths and lets start at the beginning eh
this should be a simple straight forward process and suspect you have missed the simple bit and launched straight into complex related issues, I suspect that it relates to the using of a USB Hub.
so lets "KISS" ehm, slight cough, blush
1. Dont use a USB hub
2. Delete all partnerships that you have created on both the PC and the PPC
3. Ensure you are running XP SP2 on the PC
4. Ensure you are running ActiveSync 4.1
5. Reboot both the PC and soft reset PPC
6. Go into task manager on the PPC and ensure activesync didnt auto start on soft reset
7. Open outlook on the PC and ensure it is upto date and connected if you are running it with exchange
8. Plug the PPC via the Sync cable directly into the USB port on the PC (not a hub)
9. Wizard should start, at this point, untick the box about exchange server
10. Following the wizard, deselect all options for synchronisation
(we can add some options later, but lets get to the basic partnership setup first)
Now then, those are the simple basic steps. What I would like to know before we get much further is:
1. What do you see? Did you get a wizard pop up to create the partnership?
2. Did you successfully create the partnership
3. Did it synchronise on the activesync screen
4. Did you get an error message on the PC? If so what is the description? If so, go to the PPC open up activesync on the PPC and tell me what the error code is, if any and details of last sync?
If you have successfully created your partnership and it says synchroniZed even though nothing is actually sync'd yet, we have a good start. You can now start installing programs before we sync any data.
I personally choose to extract the cab files that are used during the sync file and copy them to my SD card so I dont need an activesync connection to install.
The CAB files are normally located in \program files\microsoft activesync\ once you have run the setup program on the PC. Alternatively, they can be found in their own personal program directory. I have only ever found one situation that I couldnt find the cab file for. Now all of my source programs are on an SD card and can be reinstalled anytime, anywhere without my PC.
Eitherway, if this is now working, and you have your partnership, first sync something simple like your favourites, or files.
Once this happens, can you now choose just your contacts, then your calendar, then your tasks.
At this point, you can move one step further and decide whether you would like to use your outlook email to sync directly, or through a GPRS/WIFI facility directly to an exchange server.
Okidoki
Thats enough for now. Lets get back to the beginning and work through this simply.
Some other forums that may help....
Morphosin found solutions to his here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40646&highlight=
and some more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42540&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37039&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24184&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42088&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40900&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39259&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38453&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35449&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34598&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31478&highlight=85010014
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27636&highlight=85010014
as is obvious, you are not the only one. So some deep breaths, tell me what is going on, try to follow the above, read up on issues faced by others and see if they can assist, then let me know how you go and we can start to trouble shoot. I assure you it will be simple, and even if I cant help, each time we communicate this discussion will bounce to the top again and people far more knowledge that us will but in say, hey morons, click here and its done... and all will go away.
Cheeers
@simon_darley thank you very much that was very helpful (btw, no hubs to speak of).
Story so far.
Let me get this off my chest first...
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
How friggin COMPLICATED can something get???? 2 days of searching, reading, installing, uninstalling, falling down holes & climbing out again, faffing & frigging about. All of it needlessly!
Bad buggy software - as a result, many hoops to jump through.
See these were my goals & I think I have it (almost) all sussed now:
1) Sync to PC via a physical USB cable - easy? - nope. ONLY reason to do this is for installation of software. (Sod that sync tasks bollocks, I couldn't give a toss). A little snipped from some dude (here) mentioned the fact that this was unnecessary & could be achived via copying CAB files onto SD media & then installing software on the PPC itself - GREAT :lol:
2) WiFi connection (at work) so I could browse the internet - why? Because it was there & I was interested to see if I could do it. 3 hours later I'm in - thankyou very much! :wink: Some arsehole programmer thought it would be a good idea to make the SSID (a 26 character HEX code), CASE SENSITIVE and relay the keystrokes back to the user as a series of sodding '*'s.... :evil: In the process I've had to learn all sorts of stuff about EAP, LEAP, WiFi LAN access point (Beacons), Wireless clients, The 802.11 standard & hence WEP (and dynamic WEP keys), SSID, EAP, LEAP, WPA TKIP & finally the fact that of all those listed, my PDA uses the adapter: "tiacxwln Compatable Wireless Ethernet": to use server-assigned IP addresses (i.e. use DHCP).
3) A nice simple BlueTooth connection to my PC so that I can browse the internet on my PDA while my wife does the same on the PC - This turned out to be a TWO DAY exercise: Let me list some problems.
Bug - Can't use the WinXP SP2 Bluetooth drivers.
Bug - Can't install the WIDCOMM drivers as they are not certified. (There is a workaround guide, but COME ON GUYS!!).
Bug - If you've pissed about with BlueTooth COM ports, WIDCOMM can't 'go back' as it were to use the lower COM ports (COM9 & below), the assigned COM ports keep increasing. This would be fine if it were not for a ...
BUG - PDA BlueTooth can only use COM ports up to COM9 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
ARRRRRRRRRRRGH
Hence: Had to uninstall WIDCOMM
Hence: Had to reinstall WinXP BlueTooth driver
Hence: could then (in a convoluted manner) 'recover' the com ports from COM9 and below.
Hence: Then had to uninstall the WinXP USB Driver
Hence: Then had to reinstall the WIDCOM drivers (and go through all that certification bollox again).
Hence: The PC Could then be set up to use a Serial Comms 'service' on a COM port assignment on a COM9 port or less!!!!
Hence: Then had to REBOOT
Hence: Then had to remove any partnerships
Hence: Then had to use a password OF MORE THAN 8 CHARACTERS - some guy mentioned It does allow you to enter less than 8 characters but doing so screws thing up. ARRRGH AGIAN :twisted:
Hence: New partnership on PPC
FINALLY A BLUETOOTH LINK to the PPC
More dicking about making my internet connection an available 'service' over Bluetooth'
FINALLY get to connect to the internet :lol: :lol: :lol:
But, hold on, the fat bird isn't singing yet, GPRS is now sticking it's nose in insisting it's the (expensive) path to the internet & keeps popping a nag up, regardless of the fact that I keep telling it to f-off!
Oh, and the damn thing seems to keep disconnecting every 5 mins. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH
Anyway, getting there :wink:
Phew. Anyone who knows how to get rid of that poxy GPRS - 3G thing (yes I know its a medium so I guess I mean that useless boil on the arse of humanity called WAP) & also how to keep the damn thing connected - I think it's an Activesync issue....
Anyway, I'm now off to the top of my local bell tower with a fully loaded high-powered rifle with telescopic sights & 10,000 rounds of ammo, disguised as a postman.
Andy
hey andy
werent you the guy that got a nice cheap phone hacked the parts, put it back together, and now over the moon.... ?? thought it was you i read about, may be not.
Hmmmm gprs..... hmmmm fun aint it.
try this cab file..... it stops the auto detect and thus removes the "G" in the screen, I found it effective.
I think you can still connect it, but have to go through the manual process of going into connections, press and hold, select connect. otherwise it wont auto connect at all, it saved me heaps, and I never really used it at all. Otherwise, you can simply go in and delete the settings yourself when you like.
Re Activsync, you may find that it auto starts, and thus tries to start the gprs. this can be rectified by going to activesync on the PDA, create a server source, as fictitious entry. find the connection periods and set all to manual. Then delete the settings entirely. This should prevent activesync from autostarting, and more importantly kick starting GPRS.
oh well, think of it on the bright side, you are getting to use all tha education you paid a fortune for....
let me know how you go with activesync and gprs...
werent you the guy that got a nice cheap phone hacked the parts, put it back together, and now over the moon.... ?? thought it was you i read about, may be not.
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Tha's me!
Hmmmm gprs..... hmmmm fun aint it.
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And WiFi
And BlueTooth
And USB
And ActiveSync
And this qVGA thing (still amazed at that - "hey guys lets put a full 640x480 expensive top of the range VGA display on these things", followed by "hey guys lets NOT use the full display capabilites, let's piss everyone off and only actually design an OS that uses a QUARTER of it's capabilites and use 320x240?!?!?!?!" - my God in Heaven!!!!!!!!! :evil: )
try this cab file..... it stops the auto detect and thus removes the "G" in the screen, I found it effective.
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Thank-you Thank-you Thank-you (again)
I think you can still connect it....
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I think I can safely say that I will NEVER EVER connect to the internet using crappy WAP. Crap & expensive & slow & useless & what's the point?
oh well, think of it on the bright side, you are getting to use all tha education you paid a fortune for....
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You cheeky little a-rab. :lol: Anyway I'm old enough to have missed tuition fees here in the UK, so my 4 years Honours Degree course was not paid for by yours truley :wink: Hell I even got a grant :wink: :wink:
Anyway I must say this, you have been more than helpful & understanding of my foul temper! You see my fault is that as an engineer (my wife is now rolling her eyes skyward), when I see things badly designed it just does my head in because it does not take much more effort to make things so much more better - it beggers belief sometimes and I have to wonder if they actually try using some of these God awful programs & drivers - like I may have already mentioned, how is your average guy in the street meant to cope????
Andy
underwurlde said:
And this qVGA thing (still amazed at that - "hey guys lets put a full 640x480 expensive top of the range VGA display on these things", followed by "hey guys lets NOT use the full display capabilites, let's piss everyone off and only actually design an OS that uses a QUARTER of it's capabilites and use 320x240?!?!?!?!" - my God in Heaven!!!!!!!!! :evil: )
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Thats not strictly true...
it is running at 640x480, always!!!!
its the font sizes and dpi the applications run at that makes it look like qvga.
try the latest pocket breeze, full vga support, looks amazing.
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my old mans an engineer (marine/mechanical).
i left home early....
he is a great guy from 15,000km away (he is in Perth, WA and I moved to Brisbane, QLD), same continent, just opposite sides of it. now we get along great
one advantage of the GPRS, quizz shows.... you can win the prize competitions by googling whilst in the show, and it doesnt look as obvious and it isnt WAP, it should be full internet access with googling ability.
if you get 3g on the correct plan its reasonably usable and also gives you TSC/RDP connections into your servers whilst on the road. note, beware the standard 3G is voice capable only at 128kbps, but it should be able to and can be requested to run at 384kbps.
either way, i dont really use it either, its simply to expensive. i just run wifi at home and works a treat.
it is running at 640x480, always!!!!
its the font sizes and dpi the applications run at that makes it look like qvga.
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I think that was what I was trying to say... :roll: Anyway what's that pocket breeze thing then????? Link / file DEFINATELY needed!!!! :lol:
my old mans an engineer (marine/mechanical).
i left home early....
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Probably because he spent most of his time shouting at his PC. (Just like what I've spent the entire weekend doing... Saying that I seem to be missing a daughter - and she's only 3 1/2... The other one is packing her suitcase - not bad for a 2 year old).
one advantage of the GPRS, quizz shows.... you can win the prize competitions by googling whilst in the show, and it doesnt look as obvious and it isnt WAP, it should be full internet access with googling ability.
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Wierd. chaps here at work are intregued... Can you expand a little (I'm a bit slow at these things) & provide some site addresses please?
Thanks guys - now the dust is finally settling, things are getting (even) more interesting on this little Xda Exec..
Andy
re quizz shows, what i meant was things like quizz nights and business nights out when there are prizes and games such as "the most poisonous snake" or the longest river or biggest river etc etc
you can google this sort of information and get the right answer inside the show. it doesnt stand out as much when you are using a phone rather than a laptop or computer, but with fast internet access you can get the answer 99% of the time, in the time frame.
just dont get caught...
underwurlde
pocket breeze is a today plugin pim system,
i hardly ever use calendar, tasks, inbox, notes, etc thats to pocket breeze,
http://www.sbsh.net/products/pocketbreeze/
take a look and install the demo, it roxx, just get rid of the mail, calendar, tasks plugins from today and use this as an all in one, it hardly impacts performance with the right settings, eg, turn off expand/collapse, turn off the entry counters etc, with these little tweaks its nice and smooth.
reduce the font sizes down aswell, you get vga res text.
personally i think breeze is the best pim management system there is, i tried pocket informant but for impact it had.
lost again!
@simon_darley,
LOL...I get you now, sneaky git! :wink: Like it, my kind of scam.
Just another question...
The rar file you sent me, erm , now I've installed it now what? Is it a program (if so where is it hiding) or is it a reg hack?
Steep learning curve going on here!
Thanks again,
Andy
Andy
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FINALLY get to connect to the internet
But, hold on, the fat bird isn't singing yet, GPRS is now sticking it's nose in insisting it's the (expensive) path to the internet & keeps popping a nag up, regardless of the fact that I keep telling it to f-off!
Then
Just another question...
The rar file you sent me, erm , now I've installed it now what? Is it a program (if so where is it hiding) or is it a reg hack?
The rar file, is actually a cab file, and can simply be downloaded to your device, and click to run, it will auto install and from that point, not be removable. It was an "O2" release not an Imate release, but works on both.
I dont know what it is, I dont know how it works, but I do know that it stopped my JJ from auto connecting to the internet whenever i clicked or touched something that needed an internet address. It basically stops the device from detecting that the option is available, and thus if the system detects a need, it cant find the connection directly.
It basically set the system to have no internet connection, unless you manually open a connection, eg via WIFI, Bluetooth AS, or manually making the GPRS connection by going start > connections > connections and locating the connection, then press and hold to make the connection. It was so long and convoluted, that it never happened and i never connected using GPRS/3G unless i was desperate (like quizz shows ...
There are other reasons why it connects in the first place and somethings that you need to look at was why was it trying in the first place.
1. Activsync automatically starting as mentioned
2. Pressing the "Web" key on the keyboard, which auto starts PIE, which if you havent changed to \windows\default.thm rather than the default www.clubimate.com or other similar, then it would auto start the GPRS as it "detected" that GPRS was available.
3. MSN Messenger not closing properly and trying to reconnect
4. Closing a WIFI connect when the device hasnt shut down an Internet connection
So, what it is supposed to do is shut the direct availability detection method the system uses. I dont really know how successful it was, but you should now see the removal of the "G" and "U" icon, which should now have a symbol similar in nature to the active connection, but with a cross through it.
In summary, i dont know... it was something that was given to me in this forum months ago as i also got "upset" by the auto connect feature. After adjusting the AS settings, and changing the Internet shortcut button, i didnt need it anymore, and still dont run it on my device as it doesnt auto connect as much anymore at all.
Now, it only auto connects when i click on a link in my email and i dont have wifi open, which was my fault not the device fault for clicking the link in the first place.
My friend was boasting about how secure his network is and how nobody could ever hack into it. I am able to pick it up on my Universal, but it asks me for the WEP code. It would be very funny if I could use his connection after all his boasting :twisted: ! So, is there any app that can do this - perhaps by guessing all possible combinations until it gains access, or any other way?
Thanks
WEP is an older security method that has been proven to be hackable and especially true if the 64-bit version is being used.
There are tools around to hack WEP security, but I doubt it is for PPC. Even for PC, it requires some drivers for the wireless card, and a lot of the wireless card are not supported, including Centrino.
Lets assume that you have the appropriate equipment. Depending on the key size your friend used, e.g. 64 / 128 bits, you are required to be there to capture enough data (approx 500Mb for 128bits, I think) to get enough 'clue' to decode the key being used.
Finally, lets assume you had the key. You boasting friend may have a second layer of protection with wireless MAC address filtering, which filter out un authorized units based on MAC address. Of cource, MAC address can be spoof, but doubt there are any easy method of PPC unit yet.
You need another laptop as well as the PPC.
Download and install: Auditor: http://www.remote-exploit.org/index.php/Main_Page it is basically a boot from CD Linux with just the tools you need to 'probe' networks. use the PPC to find the Mac address, SSID and channel. Then fire up the laptop and start using all the tools to crack the WEP. The more data going over the network, the faster the apps will be able crack the WEP code. If enough data is flowing through the router, it is possbile to crack a 128 bit WEP in 10-20 minutes. If you have two laptops, you can get the other one to talk to the router (with spoofed MAC) to increase the data.
As already mentioned, all this depends if your card is supported by the apps, and can be put in silent mode (if you don't want to draw attention to yourself)
Of course, it is much easier just to walk 50 yards down the street and find an unsecured network for your free Skype calls.
cough.
/Mad
Thanks for the help. How would I find the chennel and MAC address with my universal?! I just want to get into my friends as a joke, and so finding another network wouldnt be much help!!
Thanks
6680abhi said:
Thanks for the help. How would I find the chennel and MAC address with my universal?!
Thanks
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Mine is german, so my translations may be wrong
From the start menue
-> Settings
-> connections
-> Wireless-LAN
There you'll find the information you are looking for.
Do you have some experience with Linux? It's a bit more complicated than Windows Mobile
AFAIK for Wep cracking there are also a couple of programs for PocketPC existing which can do this within minutes.
but this depends strongly on the WLAN hardware.
Search in google for this.
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AFAIK for Wep cracking there are also a couple of programs for PocketPC existing which can do this within minutes.
but this depends strongly on the WLAN hardware.
Search in google for this.
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Thanks for the help. I have serached on google, but am unable to find a wep cracking application for ppc. Could you perhaps give me a link to one?
Thanks
look here:
http://www.google.com/search?num=30...esnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=wlan+sniffer&spell=1
Thanks again, but could you please be more specific with an application, and post a link to the application, as I was unable to find anything by clicking on the google search you posted.
Thanks
6680,
it is easyer to use a notebook, preferrably with two Prism2 based network cards, and boot WHAX from a CD.
Let that run for some time and it'll find the WEP key for you.
It took more than 30 hours to get the key for my neighbours WLAN :?
I did not post you more specific links, as I have to look myself through all these links. Actually, some of the Wlan sniffer programms do have also a PocketPC version.
Actually, it is far more easier to use a notebook than a pda. Also I doubt that there is any program around, which is fully supporting the Wlan hardware of the Universal. At least this was the case half year ago.
I travel by train pretty much, and I have a HTC Universal. Since I can make use of UMTS i was wondering if i could let my universal act as an accespoint, so that i can use it as router for my Nintendo DS to play online in the train. Is there some way to do this?
Its possible, using a java program to add router software to your universal. Try googling it a bit.
Surur
Hey if you find something keep us posted will ya?
i can only find lots of Telnet clients and tutorials how to connect your ppc to a router ~ ___~);;' no luck yet.
oops i cried too early Xp I found it
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1
The first part says:
Just get the HTTPSnoopProxy.class file, copy it to, say, the root of your "access point" Pocket PC and get a decent Java Virtual Machine (I recommend CrEme 4.00 because of its superior speed, reliability and moderate memory consumption).
Seems like only web surfing will be allowed.
I got an idea when i saw this line in the link you provided:
"To share an Internet connection, you'd need operating system-level support for connection sharing as is present in, say, the desktop Windows"
I bet Linux has this. And since some smart people here has managed to get linux running on the Universal this might just be possible.
Is there anyone reading this with some linux knowlage that knows how to set this up in linux?
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oops i cried too early Xp I found it
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1
The first part says:
Just get the HTTPSnoopProxy.class file, copy it to, say, the root of your "access point" Pocket PC and get a decent Java Virtual Machine (I recommend CrEme 4.00 because of its superior speed, reliability and moderate memory consumption).
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Have you tried it? If so does it work?
I would love to setup my Jasjar as a WiFi access point using 3G, now that Vodafone IE have an unlimited 3G data plan.
How about making some sort of quasi proxy/(repeater or relay) site on a home PC?
I'm thinking of some way to pass parameters as part of the URL for port forwarding to a proxy site that forwards to the intended destination site.
would you enjoy gaming on your DS with 200msec ping times? UMTS is fast but ping times are almost as high as GPRS's...
I this this would be a great project for someone like vjay, I'd certainly pay for an app that lets me use my universal as a wireless access point.
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I this this would be a great project for someone like vjay, I'd certainly pay for an app that lets me use my universal as a wireless access point.
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SAME HERE!!
I've been looking for a thread like this for a long time now and finally found it!
Otherwise I've would've made one myself with the same question..
Is there any progress about this issue?
Plz let me /us know...
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would you enjoy gaming on your DS with 200msec ping times? UMTS is fast but ping times are almost as high as GPRS's...
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Well, I'd say it depends on the GSM operator. My UMTS ping times (Europe) are generally (well) under 100 ms.
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SAME HERE!!
I've been looking for a thread like this for a long time now and finally found it!
Otherwise I've would've made one myself with the same question..
Is there any progress about this issue?
Plz let me /us know...
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Not yet. I'm, however, pushing Microsoft (in internal forums) very hard to implement REAL connection sharing - some kind of an extended version of the AKU3+ Internet Sharing tool.
Isn't internet connection sharing enabled in Crossbow?
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Does anyone know of a freeware program that can remotely shutdown the home PC from a Wifi network? I found a free Wake-On-LAN program and I can turn on my computer from anywhere in my home with it, but I don't have the means to turn it off. Thanks.
Using a VNC client on your phone and the server on your pc you could remote in and shut it down as if you were in front of it.
Hmmm, call me ignorant but I just wonder what putpose does it serve? If it is a home network and your house is not as large as CENTRAL PARK New York you should be able to actually walk to your computer and shut it down instead of sitting room next door and do it from there!
How much more lazy the human race can get?
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Hmmm, call me ignorant but I just wonder what putpose does it serve? If it is a home network and your house is not as large as CENTRAL PARK New York you should be able to actually walk to your computer and shut it down instead of sitting room next door and do it from there!
How much more lazy the human race can get?
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note that he mentioned swhithing a pc on using wake on lan - thats why he mentioned his house - lan limitation. the real purpose of what he looks for would be turning your pc off while being away.
Curious D: i didn't hear of any app written especially for this, but for example emule can do it. if you use emule on your home pc - try checkin out it's mobile client - mobiemule - a java applet that lets you manage your downloads as well as turning your pc off. if it's not suiteble for you, i would suggest setting up apache server with a special php code on it, execing an app to close windows and then using your phone browser to access this php code. a bit of a workaround but in my opinion the easiest. (i used to controll winamp this way
This might be a solution! I did not digg in to it because of such tasks are not interesting to me but I am sure you can do what you need to do with it:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bridgman_02june10.mspx
it's another option, yes it is possible but not very handy. i know setting up apache or any other web server is not very handy task neither. i would just code a simple app for desktop pc that would listen on telnet port and after receiving specified command would shut windows down. maybe even code a simple version of "web server" so it would be accessed using web browser? huh, i'll try in my spare time ;]
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i could wrap up an application that would sit launched at your pc and listen for a connection. you would have to open a web browser (not only at your phone, it could be anything computer like and browse for an adress like:
http://your.ip.address:some_port/specific_command
to force my application to perform any action. it could be shutting down your windows or anything else.
note - it requires you to have a public ip address, and you would have to forward some_ports for it in your lan - just like any other serverlike application. would you be interested? it is quite easy so i can do it for you. cheers
Thanks for all the replies.
Raceit: I thought about VNC, but my VNC program incorporates an RC4 encryption which isn't supported for the WM5 platform at this time (at least I couldn't find any. This would be the ideal situation since then I can control my computer from my phone to do some simple operations. (I can do this already with my laptop, but it takes a long time to start up whereas the phone is fairly immediate)
Banannq: No no...Junner2003 is right. I AM lazy. I'm actually looking for it because there have been some nights that I remembered I forgot to shut down the computer and when you are in bed, you don't really want to go across the house to shut something off. I'm a light sleeper and when I wake up, I think about stuff. The idea that you had is over my head. Thanks for the offer for setup, but it seems I would have to open my firewall which I would rather not do. Again, thanks.
Junner2003: Thanks. I'll look into that link from Microsoft.
Curious D: too late mate, i already did the base of program ;]
now i can only finish it ;] it receives a message from a www browser and all i need to do now is to make it respond with an action, which is quite easy job - i'll add a procedure of shutting windows down and i'll upload it somewhere this evening. if you want it, you can get it, if you prefer not - no problem. for me it was a good oportunity to code something new ;]
forget evening. it's done. remember it is very simple...
so you need to launch included exe file on your windows machine. i tested it on xp, it should also work on older OS's, but i cannot be sure.
as i said - if you have lan at your home (and probably you have if you use your phone to connect to wifi) you need to access your router menu to allow connections to the pc my app is running on. depending on manufacturer it is done a bit different but still quite simple. you need to find a function called "port forwarding" and set up a new rule. You allow traffic to "your pc ip number" on "99" port (thats my app specification). you basicly need to allow traffic via tcp, but can be also tcp+udp
when it's done thats it.
providing that the programm is running, you can first try opening you pc's browser and type a specified url in your browser:
http://localhost:99/hello_world
you should see "/hello_world" message in return.
you can then try
http://ip_address:99/some_message
your ip can be checked by typing "ipconfig" in command line (windows_start>run>cmd) on your pc.
then you can do the same on your phone : http://your.pc.ip.address:99/message
if it works it means that everything is ready to go. then go:
http://your.pc.ip.address:99/shutdown
and that should do the magic.
i hope it's quite clear for you, if not - please ask. i'll try to help you if you think my program would be worth it ;]
i hope you like it
Wow. That's really cool. Thanks. I'll look into it more on my next day off. (Schedule's a little wacky, but it brings food to the table) Thanks again. Out of curiosity (not asking for more because you have already been very generous with your time and effort), can something be set up without port forwarding? If it is within a home network, can something be setup like VNC (without the remote desktop) simply to shutdown a computer within my own Wifi network?
Yes, should be possible either if you use STATIC IP ADDRESSES (which is always a problem if you have a linksys router) or just via computer name in the network: " \\MyComputerName " (you will have to turn file sharing in for that!)
Cool. I'll try it soon. Thanks again.
Curious D said:
Does anyone know of a freeware program that can remotely shutdown the home PC from a Wifi network? I found a free Wake-On-LAN program and I can turn on my computer from anywhere in my home with it, but I don't have the means to turn it off. Thanks.
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Can you please post the free Wake-On-LAN app that you have??
sorry guys, i didn't have time to post anything sooner - had a terrible day with my wizard - 4 hard resets and finally rom upgrade :/ huh, looks good now...
anyway - i didn't code anything that would communicate through windows network neighbourhood - it sounds like an interesting idea, but i dont think i could be able to accomplish any success here very soon ;] sorry.
freeyayo50 said:
Can you please post the free Wake-On-LAN app that you have??
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Here you go...
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=240773&mode=threaded
i knew this is not new topic,but may i know any PPC wireless hacking tools,easy function,n hack into network to access to internet?i try airsniffer,but i dun know how to use it.i search entire 203page,cant find any usefull tools bout hack Wlan.thx ^^
Not here
This is not a hacker forum !
There is 2 parts in what you want :
- intercepting network traffic, easy with one or another tool
- finding network keys (wep) wich is not the goal of this forum and require much power than usual windows mobile devices are able to show
eurorpeen said:
and require much power than usual windows mobile devices are able to show
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Not true. This can actually be done with a PSP. Very, very slow. But possible.
also as a side note i dont like the notion of "THIS IS NOT A HACKER FORUM"
No, it isnt. Its also not a forum where ideas are declared bad because they CAN be used in ways they aren't meant to be used.
I do not think that the internal wireless support injection mode
ignoring the fact that its illegal, i can give some hints
A ppc (at lest on WM and whit the current wifi drivers) cant sniff traffic, and even if it could plus more improbable inject (something most wifi cards cant over windows xp vista etc), the cpu couldn't get even a 64bit wep key in any useful time.
So if you could get monitor(not so improbable) and injection over WM(really improbable) you would need several hours to get the data(at lest 2hours for 200.000 ivs)
After that cranking whit a 500mhz almost no cache and very few MB free e could say at least 15hours.
something that my eee could monitor and inject (15min = 1.000.000 ivs) and crack (5secounds).
ppc are only useful to wardriving.
Limitation
I dont think the cracking of 64 bit key is a limitation since you could easily farm that off from your phone to a pc on the net.
But since the wifi chips in the phones cant sniff traffic, its not really possible would be fun though .
Yes they can
The chips in the ppc can snif and inject the datas, there is enough "how to" and softs to do that, look on google but as you said, you need much more power to decrypt a wep key that it is not practicable.
OK, send the data to another computer to decrypt, but so, why not use this computer by default from the beginning ?
There is also a linux bootcd that come with all the tools already packed in.
So yes, you can do it in a lot lot time and it's illegal so I will not give more informations about it but I tried on my own network and it works.
isit that mean,i cant get any app,with easy connect to Wlan without key,n access to internet?
honeychea said:
isit that mean,i cant get any app,with easy connect to Wlan without key,n access to internet?
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Yeah windows mobile lets you use the code (hex pairs)
5U CY 5U KY 2D 0L LA R5
Time and device battery isn't gonna make it.. just forget about the idea.. You can sniff out packets is one thing.. which I already done it before many years back on a Pocket PC 2003SE.
The other thing is have enough juice in your device to last long enought to gather enough packets..
Then enough Juice again and CPU power (which obviously is nto powerful or quick enough yet) to decrypt the packets for the WEP keys.. that is if its only 64bit WEP.. 128bits I dun think it ever makes sense on the current processor..
shi3ld said:
Yeah windows mobile lets you use the code (hex pairs)
5U CY 5U KY 2D 0L LA R5
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Me love you long time
shi3ld said:
Yeah windows mobile lets you use the code (hex pairs)
5U CY 5U KY 2D 0L LA R5
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how to use this ? any guide?
ROFL, loving this thread
so you think a tiny pda can do the same work as a workstation with dual gtx280 using backtrack4?
yes it can. but first you need to find a mage to cast a +5 equipment upgrade spell on it.
honeychea said:
how to use this ? any guide?
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PMSL lol
Monsterchef said:
that's the point. suppose the "real" hackers use small netbooks which have more power. ppc's are most likely not designed for such things - and i am glad about that. but if you ask me- in these days it's in general useless to do things like that, because the internet (and related issues!) is not a justice-free playground...
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haha.
wait till snapdragon and processors after that come into play.
then it will start to become even more probable.
clown said:
so you think a tiny pda can do the same work as a workstation with dual gtx280 using backtrack4?
yes it can. but first you need to find a mage to cast a +5 equipment upgrade spell on it.
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lmfao.
honeychea said:
how to use this ? any guide?
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oh my god i'm wetting myself haha
so is there any wep cracking tool for wm 6.1/6.5???