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Hi all, im kind of new to this but i just read about push email with exchange server and i was wondering how i could use it with my mda vario. I've already installed an updated rom with push email but i dont know how to use it. can any one fill me in on this? thanks for any help.
You need a Exchange 2003 server with at least SP2 installed. Also a UMTS/GPRS connection because is not working over WIFI.
Bitfrotter 8)
Go to www.mail2web.com, sign up there. Than put the settings from the website in the Exchange Server settings in Active Sync on your PPC. Set your current email address to automatically forward your email to your mail2web email address. Enable GPRS and enable push email from the Comm Manager and bingo, push email is yours.
Ok, ive already signed up with mail2web but i want to automatically retrieve hotmail emails. i don't see an option on hotmail to forward all my emails to mail2web. am i missing something here? sorry, im inexperienced and all and these are probably lame questions and all. but please help me out. after reading that article i got hyped up in doing this. thanks for any replies.
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You need a Exchange 2003 server with at least SP2 installed. Also a UMTS/GPRS connection because is not working over WIFI.
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I've gotten DirectPush to work over WiFi... Maybe that was an earlier ROM version though... I don't recall the circumstances under which I got it to work.
MS says that Direct Push does not work over WiFi. WiFi does not allow disconnected connections (in other words, a connection that allows for the data stream to be suspended). If WiFi did it, it would require a continuous connection that would drain the batteries at a very rapid pace.
Setting up Exchange for Direct Push is pretty easy. I set up ours in about 5 minutes.
One of the coolest things you can do with a correctly configured Exchange 2003 system is with the Mobile Admin pack (free download from MS). It allows you to tell the PDA that it needs to "self-destruct" in case the phone is stolen. A remote wipe will do a hard-reset on the phone, deleting all data not stored on an external SD.
I usually get my email on the MDA faster than Outlook on my desktop.
If any Exchange admins are out there, I can post how to set it up if anyone needs help.
exchange/activesync
Yes please!
Hotmail has deleted the possibility of forwarding mail automatically a few years ago in the free version, only Hotmail Plus subscribers can use this option. With gmail however it is still free. So a basic hotmail account will not be able to use Push over Exchange. You can however sign in to MSN Messenger on your device and will then be notified as soon as an email arrives on the hotmail server. This will cost you extra data charges though, since contacts coming online will also result in data transfer to your device.
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MS says that Direct Push does not work over WiFi. WiFi does not allow disconnected connections (in other words, a connection that allows for the data stream to be suspended). If WiFi did it, it would require a continuous connection that would drain the batteries at a very rapid pace.
Setting up Exchange for Direct Push is pretty easy. I set up ours in about 5 minutes.
One of the coolest things you can do with a correctly configured Exchange 2003 system is with the Mobile Admin pack (free download from MS). It allows you to tell the PDA that it needs to "self-destruct" in case the phone is stolen. A remote wipe will do a hard-reset on the phone, deleting all data not stored on an external SD.
I usually get my email on the MDA faster than Outlook on my desktop.
If any Exchange admins are out there, I can post how to set it up if anyone needs help.
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that would be awesome if you know of a tutorial anywhere on this..
so by creating an exchange server as romp said, you can sync any email including hotmail? well that's really a bummer that microsoft disabled forwarding on hotmail. Its mainly my primary email which all my friends/family know. so it would be a miracle if anyone knew how to sync hotmail without subscribing to their hotmail plus.
Well, getting outside emails are a bit more complex. This is usually for a business, but there are plenty of POP-to-Exchange plug ins that would allow getting Hotmail emails. Of course, you would need the Hotmail Plus for the POP.
http://www.slipstick.com/exs/popconnect.htm
My answer was more concerning the Exchange Direct push question, not the hotmail one.
Where I work (yes, I did set up the Exchange system) we have GFI spam filtering and virus filtering (www.gfi.com) and they have a POP2Exchange bridge included. It just checks the account, downloads any POP emails, and drops it in the right mailbox.
Exchange is a complete system, not just mail. It has webmail, Windows Mobile direct push, calendar, contacts, and more. Unless you are in a company with Exchange or Small Business Server, its not a cheap thing to do for a home network.
If you DO have Exchange at your office, run to the IT guy and hurt him until he sets your phone up on it. Its all the functionality of Blackberry and more, built into Exchange.
I'll write that tutorial, g0nk.
ok so if we go the mail2web route... i dont need to install exchange 2003 on a pc myself? does it only work on windows server 2003?
im interested in doing this at my job but i want to make sure it is not too difficult
edit.. well we have our own domain email addresses so the [email protected] is not an option..
any suggestions?
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Exchange is a complete system, not just mail. It has webmail, Windows Mobile direct push, calendar, contacts, and more.
If you DO have Exchange at your office, run to the IT guy and hurt him until he sets your phone up on it. Its all the functionality of Blackberry and more, built into Exchange.
I'll write that tutorial, g0nk.
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1) Agreed
2) I am the IT guy and it don't work on our server - the rootcertificate won't install to the PPC - an MS acknowledged problem............
3) Please forward ASAP !! Thanks !! :lol:
Is it a self published cert? Because you CAN get any externally issued cert to work just fine. We use a $15 GoDaddy cert with no problems.
The big screw up most people have with the cert (myself included) is that the cert is not correctly installed, even though it says it is.
Cheaper certs are called "Chained" certs. All certs need a path back to one of the big cert companies. So, companies like GoDaddy get approved to be second level cert issuers. IE on the PC will look at the cert and track it back to the main cert issuer. For example, the cert on GoDaddy goes from GoDaddy, to Starfield, to VeriCert. The VeriCert certificate is installed on all PCs.
Anyway, the problem is that the PC can follow an undefined cert path, the PPC can't. If you install the cert on the server, IE on the PC can figure out the whole path, PPC can't. So, the big thing is to make sure the MIDDLE CERTS are installed on the server. Even though everything seems fine, chances are that the middle ones are not (in this case STARFIELD)
The easiest way to find out if the cert is valid or not is try to get to your webmail on PIE. If you get a message about the cert, your server is not set up completely.
For my server, I had no luck until I found the Intermediary Cert and installed it. https://certificates.starfieldtech.com/Repository.go
Once that was done, my GoDaddy cert worked on the PPC and syncs went perfectly. Once the server has all the certs in the cert path installed, the PPC can validate each level. Until then, its clueless. Most people think you need to install the cert on the PPC. Its the server that needs it.
Does the self published cert only cause problems with direct push? I've got the "old" polling method working. I created a root CA on my server to sign the cert created for the web server and then turned that root CA into a CAB which was installed on the PPC. I should say that my phone doesn't have an AKU 2.xx rom on yet so I've not tested push mail.
This is all outlined in the following doc :
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/mobile/deploy/msfpdepguide.mspx
Also look at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817379 if you are running a non sbs2003 exchange server in a configuration that doesn't have a front end/back end exchange server configuration. As there are some minor tweeks needed to the registry and to the default web server setup.
If you can do a remote Activesync, then DirectPush will work just fine.
A newbie Direct Push question:
I upgraded my 8125 ROM to the official Cingular June 19 version, and direct push SEEMS to be working great my my Hosted Exchange provider. When new email comes in to my Exchange server and/or a task / calendar / contact is changed on the desktop Outlook client, those get pushed quickly to the 8125.
Problem is, it doesn't seem to work in reverse. For example, IF I get an email pushed to me on my PDA, I read it and delete it on my PDA.....that deletion action is NOT getting syncronized back to my Exchange server. Is that by design, or is indeed something wrong?
Thanks in advance!
not sure if it helps, but you can change when pocket outlook deletes mail, there are 3 options:
on connect/disconnect
immediately
manually
I dunno if changing that will help you at all, but its in the pocket outlook options.
I'll shut up now, in case I misunderstood
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not sure if it helps, but you can change when pocket outlook deletes mail, there are 3 options:
on connect/disconnect
immediately
manually
I dunno if changing that will help you at all, but its in the pocket outlook options.
I'll shut up now, in case I misunderstood
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I appreciate your reply, but my question is beyond that......it centers around Driect Push.....my thinking is, regardless of that setting you referred to, once the email is deleted on the PDA, the PDA should "reverse-push" that deletion to the Exchange server, and mine does not seem to be doing that.
I hope that is a little clearer?
No, his answer was right. The reverse of the Push is not the same. You have to set the options as Jmel suggested. Its basically to save data.
This allows you to go through your mail, delete all your spam and crap, then update the server. Doing so immediately would be a waste. Recieving/sending emails is considered vital, deleting them...not so much.
I've searched and searched, but I can't seem to find anyone with this problem.
Basically, I'm trying to get my new Treo 750 to sync over wireless with my Exchange server. I run the Exchange server from my own house, on it's own domain. I've upgraded the Treo 750 to WM6. I previously did not try wireless sync on WM5. My Exchange server is 2003 SP2.
At first, I tried connecting via SSL only to get a message about the certificate not being valid. After fighting and fighting with trying to get the cert on the phone, I finally gave up and disabled SSL on the device in an attempt to connect.... via any means possible.
What I first thought was success has turned into another problem. I know I'm communicating with the server, as the policy from the domain controller made me set a device password. It was at that point that I knew I was getting somewhere. Now, when I hit "sync", I see it checking for changes. At the bottom of the screen, it'll run through each step: Contacts, Calendar, Email and Tasks.
Let me see if I can describe this..... It'll briefly pause at say... 0/80 for my Inbox, then count (very quickly, in large increments) till it hits the 80 and move on to the next item in the synchronization list. This cycle restarts after 5-10 seconds.
When I go to look in my Inbox, it's empty. The only thing I see is at the bottom: "Outlook E-mail 0 Items". Same with Contacts, Calendar, etc...
Now here's the kicker. If I send myself a test email from an outside account... say, Gmail, the sync app will then show "Email 0/81", then tick up to 81 and move on to the next item. However, nothing is downloaded. I can pull up a list of all the personalized folders I've created for my mailstore, and they're all there. I can "subscribe" to them, yet they remain empty as well.
I'm completely at a loss. I don't know what else to do at this point, and it's proving to be a difficult thing to search for. Any advice you can give would be very much appreciated....
As I said, this sync thing is happening pretty much non-stop. It'll rotate through the 4 steps (email, contacts, calendar, Tasks), wait a few seconds, then start it all over.
I've noticed that no other net apps work while this is happening. I actually have to go into ActiveSync and hit stop. After that, net applications (IM, PIE, Opera, etc...) work just fine.
Here is a (truncated) log from the device.
That looks pretty similar to the log I get from my device when I ActiveSync to Exchange. Jave you tried doing a backup and then hard resetting? I find that DirectPush is very finnicky with when it does and doesn't work but may just be my server.
Actually, to completely eliminate the device, I setup the MS WM6 emulator from a computer on an outside network. I got exactly the same thing as on the device. That pretty much tells me it's something on the server.
Here's another tidbit that might help. Before getting this phone, I setup BES Express on my Exchange server. I had problems with it working at first, and read through several guides before I had permissions working right. To this end, I made a lot of permissions-based changes on the Exchange server.
Could this be a permissions issue? How can I check if the permissions are correct?
Ok here's your problem, running another MAPI client on an Exchange server is NEVER a good idea. If you shut down the BES services and then reboot the server, what happens? Also, have you tried checking the Exchange Server event viewer for any info on what's happening server side?
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Ok here's your problem, running another MAPI client on an Exchange server is NEVER a good idea. If you shut down the BES services and then reboot the server, what happens? Also, have you tried checking the Exchange Server event viewer for any info on what's happening server side?
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Very good point. I hadn't even consider that. I don't even need it anymore.
That being said, what is the best way to go about uninstalling BES Express w/o jacking up the rest of the Exchange system? Also, have you ever actually heard of this causing the problem I'm experiencing? You sound pretty darn certain when you say: "Ok here's your problem". Each time I find or come up with a possible solution, it never seems to make a difference. Sure, my Exchange installation is "cleaner" and more standardized with each solution I try, but it never resolved the issue.
If you can provide me a decent guide or recommendation for uninstalling BES, I would appreciate it. Unless you have some better tips, I'm using these two pages as guides:
Perform a clean uninstall of the BlackBerry Enterprise Server
How to uninstall and re-install BlackBerry Enterprise Server on the same computer with minimal disruption
Ok, stopped all the services, uninstalled BES, deleted all related program directories, and removed all associated registry keys. Logged out of BESAdmin account and removed it from Active Directory.
I did all this from Remote Desktop, so the only thing left to do is reboot the server. I could do it remotely through command line, but it has a habit of freezing up during shut down (it's been doing it for years, doesn't seem to harm a thing). So I won't be able to reboot until I get back in town tonight.... just in case it freezes.
I have a few questions, though. Do I need to make any changes to MAPI (remove, stop, change, etc...)? I still need IMAP access for remote relatives, but I'm gonna get rid of that soon once I get them setup through the VPN.
Anything else I should remove/change?
Oh yeah, just for ****s and giggles, I tried synching again, both with the actual Treo 750 and also with a WM6 emulator on the remote server. I've also tried running the WM6 emulator from the same network as the Exchange server, just to eliminate the firewall, as Direct Push only seems to use ports 80 or 443, depending on whether you have SSL enabled or not.
Correct me if I'm wrong about the firewall ports.
Those are the same ports I have open, but much like yourself (and correct me if I'm wrong) just a casual Sysadmin. While I'm not entirely certain if BES is your issue, I'm inclined to think it may be a MAPI collision between the two. I haven't used BES myself so I can't really advise on the best method to uninstall, but I had a similar issue where my Outlook clients couldn't connect when I installed Outlook on the Exchange server. On another note, why set up VPN when you could just configure RPC over HTTP if you're running the server on Win2k3, it's probaly cut my support calls with users by aboyt 25%. If you'd like I can give you access to a server to compare it to, just PM me if you think that'd help.
I just saw that you also had IMAP open, that's definetly not going to be causing the issue, as I also have that running on my server and have people using it at this very minute. Also, have you tried checking on your device if you go into ActiveSync>Right Softkey>Options and then checking that the boxes besides Contacts, Calendars, Tasks, etc... are checked? I know it's stupid, but I've had issues like that before where I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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Those are the same ports I have open, but much like yourself (and correct me if I'm wrong) just a casual Sysadmin. While I'm not entirely certain if BES is your issue, I'm inclined to think it may be a MAPI collision between the two. I haven't used BES myself so I can't really advise on the best method to uninstall, but I had a similar issue where my Outlook clients couldn't connect when I installed Outlook on the Exchange server. On another note, why set up VPN when you could just configure RPC over HTTP if you're running the server on Win2k3, it's probaly cut my support calls with users by aboyt 25%. If you'd like I can give you access to a server to compare it to, just PM me if you think that'd help.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think Direct Push uses MAPI at all, so I'm pretty sure it can't be a "MAPI collision", so to speak. I was able to completely remove BES w/o any issues. I rebooted the computer last night, just to be sure, and I'm still showing the same problem. ActiveSync connects and looks like it's synchronizing, but in the end, nothing is actually downloaded from my phone.
I really believe it has something to do with permissions. I say this, because I had a very difficult time getting BES to work. I had to mess with a lot of permissions to get mail flowing to my Blackberry. I can't be sure that I didn't goof something up in the process.
With that being said, everything else works just fine. I can use OMA. I can use OWA either HTTP or SSL (forms-based authentication disabled, of course). I can connect without issue from IMAP, or directly via Exchange over VPN, etc...
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I just saw that you also had IMAP open, that's definetly not going to be causing the issue, as I also have that running on my server and have people using it at this very minute. Also, have you tried checking on your device if you go into ActiveSync>Right Softkey>Options and then checking that the boxes besides Contacts, Calendars, Tasks, etc... are checked? I know it's stupid, but I've had issues like that before where I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
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I have tried that. I've also tried changing the settings for email from 3 days, to all the other options. It will change the amount of emails ActiveSync "sees", but they still do not download to the phone.
Oh yeah, as far as RPC over HTTP goes, it's one of those "I've always used..." things.
What are the advantages of RPM over HTTP?
I'm not quite sure it's a permissions issue, because as far as I know ActiveSync only uses the standard exchange accounts/services,+ a few virtual directories. What you can try doing is deleting the ActiveSync virtual directory, and then restarting the IIS and Exchange System Attendant services and see if that helps.
RPC over HTTP alleviates the need to have to login to a VPN to check email, it also makes it much easier to configure the client, as they only have to enter their Username+Password and enter the FQDN of the server.
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I'm not quite sure it's a permissions issue, because as far as I know ActiveSync only uses the standard exchange accounts/services,+ a few virtual directories. What you can try doing is deleting the ActiveSync virtual directory, and then restarting the IIS and Exchange System Attendant services and see if that helps.
RPC over HTTP alleviates the need to have to login to a VPN to check email, it also makes it much easier to configure the client, as they only have to enter their Username+Password and enter the FQDN of the server.
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I deleted the ActiveSync virtual dir (which actually had a much longer name), as well as the OMA virtual dir.
Now I get this message when I try to connect. I guess I need some help on rebuilding it now... heh.
As for RPC over HTTP... brainfart. I knew what it is, but I wanted access to remote shares.
As far as permissions go, I'm pretty sure it's not the problem as well. I just created a brand new user and had the same thing happen.
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I deleted the ActiveSync virtual dir (which actually had a much longer name), as well as the OMA virtual dir.
Now I get this message when I try to connect. I guess I need some help on rebuilding it now... heh.
As for RPC over HTTP... brainfart. I knew what it is, but I wanted access to remote shares.
As far as permissions go, I'm pretty sure it's not the problem as well. I just created a brand new user and had the same thing happen.
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Did you try stopping and then starting the Exchange System Attendant and IIS services, the folders should come back automatically. If all else fails, reboot and see if the folders come back.
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Did you try stopping and then starting the Exchange System Attendant and IIS services, the folders should come back automatically. If all else fails, reboot and see if the folders come back.
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I know that trick, but if there is anything wrong in the metabase, it will not be overwritten.
I'll be using this guide to completely blast out and rebuild all the owa-related folders:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883380/en-us
Ok, I rebuilt everything using Method 2 in the above-linked guide.
Now, I'm getting support code 0x85010014
This pages says the cause is SSL being enabled on the main site, but it's definitely not. There are other vdir pages that have SSL enabled, but none of the default MS dirs... only personal ones I created for other things.
http://www.messagingtalk.org/content/479.html
Is there any chance that you have FBA enabled, if you do theres supposed to be some way that you can trick ActiveSync to use a different folder or something. It wasn't really worth it to me, so I just ended up disabling it.
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Is there any chance that you have FBA enabled, if you do theres supposed to be some way that you can trick ActiveSync to use a different folder or something. It wasn't really worth it to me, so I just ended up disabling it.
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That's the thing. I don't even have a certificate on the site right now. I got rid of the self-issued one, and now I'm waiting on my GoDaddy one. So I don't have FBA enabled. That's why that messages seems so weird...
Hmm, that's odd. I got the same error when I first configure ActiveSync, but now I forget what I did to resolve it. Also, is there any chance you have some sort of IM application, such as Google Talk or AIM? It's a bit easier to resolve these things if you can have a more back and orth communication then a orum post.
My company runs an exchange server for email, and I was wondering if anyknow knows how to connect to them, using the mogul. I went through the setup on the phone, with no success...Are their any additional steps required to connect to the server when you are not on the same network as the server?
Missing Certificate ?
I think you'll have to install the certificate from your Mailserver on the phone to get it working.
Do you get any active-sync error code when you're trying to sync ?
In general you get an error-code in ActiveSync which is telling you what's wrong...
IMHO the best idea would be: aks your IT-Stuff in your company
you need to add a server in active sync with your companys exchange server addy and your username/password
To be clear you need to enter your companies OWA server address. At most small companies this is your Exchange server and at most large companies it is your ISA server.
Example:
You access OWA using https://exchange.mycompany.com/exchange
You enter: exchange.mycompany.com in the activesync settings and you use your username, password and domain to authenticate
You also need to make sure Outlook Mobile Access is enabled on the Exchange Server and on your Exchange Mailbox. You will need to contact your IT Admin to verify these settings.
I'm in the same boat as the OP. I had been trying to hit the mail server directly or via VPN, with no luck, probably due to no certificate. Never thought about OWA. I set this up as indicated in the prior post, and checked 'Tasks' only (just to run a quick test), and it sync'ed fine. I then checked email and calendar, and now it takes me to a company sign-in web page (same page I encounter when using web access to OWA). Weird thing is the page is in the ActiveSync window and does not appear to be rendering correctly or completely (e.g. no 'submit' button). Nonetheless, I sign in and click where the submit button "should be" and the page goes away and it appears to start syncing, only to take me back to the sign-in page again after 15-20 seconds. Any suggestions on how to get past this point? I've tried logging in to OWA from IE, but ActiveSync still brings up this sign-in page. And yes, I've got my userID, pswd, and domain properly set up as well. Thanks.
BTW, my company IT won't help because they only support handheld access for specific company-issued devices.
try using mail.yourcompanymailserver.com/oma
its a lightweight version that handles easy in mobile browsers (only if your IT guys have enabled it)
as for the OP your exchange settings could vary depending on how your admin set it up, ssl (requiring a certificate) or not. to get the certificate from your company you can dl it from the server mail.yourcompanymailserver.com/cersrv
you log in using your mail credentials and you select download certificate chain and select a der 64.
save it to your phone and just install.
chances are though if your company is using a lot of treo's they dont require ssl because you can't install self issued certificates on them (good work palm). so if you want to ask your IT guys their setup and post it here i can try to walk through it with you.
this is my situation and how i got it to work.
Although i tried to internal address of 1x01po2s.domain.name, that didn't work.
I thought about it for a while, and reasoned if i can access my companies exchange server outside the network through a http://mail.domain.name address, then maybe that'll work hahaha
BAM! it did and now it works perfectly fine. Conincidentally, since i started trying to get this going last week, i emailed a few guys i know and the last one who got my email (it was forwarded to try to solve the problem) said that because of security policies, i am not allowed to do this. Ooops!
Here is a quick run down of my settings:
server address: mail.domain.name
ssl is selected (checked)
username: exchange/nt workstation login name
password: user password
domain: network domain (we have different domains)
save password is selected
under advanced you can select whatever options you like
next select e-mail, and any other options you want
and you're done!
I also enabled the push email icon and get my email regularly on my phone throughout the day.
Well, i hope that this helps some of you out.
server address: mail.domain.name
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just so folks know there is no standard for this, its whatever subdomain your company decided to put OWA on, for my company its webmail.companywebsite.com
best thing to do would be to ask someone in your company how to access email from outside the office using internet explorer, thats the address your lookign for
Sprint mogul (Titan) WM6.1 Rom update killed exchange server activesync
(Sorry in advance for the long Email) I purchased a Mogul from RS about three weeks ago. For the first week, it worked great! I logged into my company exchange server down loaded and synced email, cal,contacts,tasks ... was very excited. I also got very excited when I started t read threads in this blog .... it seems like there are some pretty smart members maybe someone can help!!
Noticed that there was a new Rom (Sprint TV and improved connection) installed the ROM.
Have spent endless hours with HTC technical support, sprint technical support (not an appropriate name). At times managed to get the email to load but never again Cal, Tasks, contacts. Always able to get sent emails to load (by checking option) . I'm left with a couple of alternatives (any others would be greatly appreciated (actually I really like this phone but I need my email,schedule,etc to work) The error is 0x8503001C there is no exact description about this from MSmobile it seesm to be an awh**** code. Searching on the web provides 1000s of hits unfortunately not just my issue.
o Go to an early Rom WM6.0. So far it seems like to do this I need to unlock the phone then flash the earlier rom?? Since no SIM card I need to hack the registry?? There are several products out there which is best (I do not mind paying for somethng that works well). I down loaded several "Oficial ROm versions ... unfortunately did not write down the number of the one the phone came with.
o Find some way of getting this thing to work well to keep the extra features
o My grace period ends in a week ... cancel with Sprint go to Att but there is not a 3G phone I like ... only Iphone ... it has issues for exchange server??
o I got my wife a Touch at the same time (it runs WM6.1) same issue. Downloaded once my corp email no cal, etc.
o I was told that this Rom was cooked up by MS & Sprint what a disaster
Please, please help ... Thanks in advance
Scurfer
Exchange email and Skype not working after Upgrading Sprint Touch to Wm6.1
The Exchange activesync died at connection and never can sync my company emails after I upgraded Touch to 6.1 Sprint/HTC ROM. Skype also does not work, no sound after first ring, even with 2.2.0.45. I like the GPS and Rev.A speed, and do not want to risk downgrading the ROM. Anybody encounter ssimilar situation?
I have searched and searched for an answer to this problem and have not been able to find anything. Hopefully someone here has run into this before and might have an idea or solutuion. Her is my problem.
I have two exchange servers (2003 SP2) on of which is a front end server handling OWA and OMA. We sync about 18 Windows Mobile 6.1 devices over the air using OMA. We are using SSL. All of our devices have random problems connecting to the server. They will sync fine most of the time but will randomly for no particular reason ask the user for their exchange password. We are not enforcing any password policies on the server and we are always checking the box to save the password. In order to get the device synching again the user has to re-enter their password multiple times and often has to kill and restart activesync on their device.
Any ideas as to what might be causing this?
Any help would be much appreciated.
You could try unchecking the box in Activesync on the phone that requires SSL. We use SSL as well, but we have to uncheck that box on the phone. Although our problem is that the phone never syncs when its checked as opposed to your problem of randomly not syncing and asking for a password.
Unfortunately that is not an option. Our SSL is required for authentication. It will not connect without it. It seems like what is happening is that the device is not always passing the credentials to the server. Usually when it asks me for the password I enter the password once making sure I check the Save Password box then when it asks me the second time I hit cancel. ActiveSync then gives me a could not authenticate error. Now if I just hit Sync again it goes through and works just fine without asking for the password. So my guess is that it is not passing the credentials until after the connection is reinitialized.
From what I understand, Push Email relies on the OMA functionality which uses IIS. The problem my lie there. Although I've never tried, you may have to uninstall/reinstall (or confirm) that the OMA part of Exchange is functioning correctly. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Do the log files on the server show anything when a phone can't log in?
No, the exchange logs don't show much. I almost think it might be something with the device configuration. At this point I just don't know. We will be migrating to Exchange 2007 sometime in the next few months. Hopefully that will resolve the problem permanently. I was just hoping maybe by some chance someone here had seen this problem before. Thanks a bunch for your help.
Is the FE server doing the authentication (NTLM) or is there an ISA server in the way configured with Forms Based Authentication? You should make sure the IIS virtual directory for OMA is set only for Basic Auth - and the following article might be worth a read.... http://searchexchange.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid43_gci1188440,00.html
Hope that helps - good luck!!
Mark.
^^^What he said. Took the words right out of my mouth. You'll still be secured through the SSL certificate, even though you're doing "basic auth" you aren't exactly sending your password as clear text. Requiring SSL on the OMA site will automatically encrypt the connection so you have no need to worry.
Try it out and get back in here. I manage a site with about 50 WM 6.1 Black Jack II's that sync with Exchange 2007 with no issues whatsoever. Also verify that you have all your hotfixes related to OMA installed on your Exchange 2003 server.
Hi
I used to be able sync to my work Outlook email via ActiveSync / Outlook Mobile Access (OMA). However, yesterday my work IT department disabled OMA on my Exchange server as they do not support anything other than the blackberry. Despite my protestation they are refusing to re-enable OMA. This leaves me with a big issue!
Does anyone on here know of a third party application that can sync outlook emails and calander using Outlook Web Access (OWA)?
I have found an application called Chronobis which is able to sync from OWA but only one way i.e. deleted items on Chronobis will not delete from my Outlook inbox and calendar appointments added won't sync to my outlook calander (or so I believe). Whilst this is a good start it really doesn't get me to where I need to be.
I am desperate to sync my work outlook emails to my new HTC HD2 (its the main reason I got it)!
Anyone got any other ideas / know of any other applications?
Would really appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Yes, you can use a service called Seven.
Thanks for your response.
I've had a look and it seems this could do the job! Seems that the only way to get it was to join the beta programme which I've done but when I put my the vendor in it doesnt give me the HD2 as an option.
Any ideas what handset I should choose that will work with the HD2?!
I've also read compatibility issues with Manilla 2.5 in their forums. Has anyone managed to get this working successfully on an HD2? Also, are you able to move emails to your different folders using this app and have them sync with the exchange?
Is this the best / only app out there for my requirement?
Sorry for all the qus!
Thanks again.
ActiveSync uses OWA. Put in webmail server, username, password and works.
OWA still works, like afterburn said, i got my calendar, email and tsks to synch. lol now all my contacts are on my university email accounts, pretty cool tho.
no need for thirdparty, active sync does it.
dont know what OMA is. but what you want is exactly what OWA gives you.
dont set your owa using HCT SENSE/MANILA SETTINGS. do it through normal out look ad account way. HTC tick boxes for tasks, calendar and other stuff are greyed out and only email is available.
but on the standard outlook mobile all the settings are there.
need a run through of how to set it up?
Thanks for your responses guys.
OMA is office mobile outlook. It is a setting within the exchange server which either allows or disallows a mobile device to access emails through the mail app. Having OWA does not mean that you will be able to access your emails from a mobile device (except through the mobile browser).
Activesync uses OMA rather than OWA so at the moment I'm stuck!
As a result I need an app that syncs via OWA.
Seven seems to be able to do it but I could do with any answers to my qus above.
Happy to be proved wrong on this but one day it was all working fine and the next my exchage server settings had been changed and it stopped working.
Any exchange server admins on here who can confirm my thinking is correct?
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I've also read compatibility issues with Manilla 2.5 in their forums. Has anyone managed to get this working successfully on an HD2?
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I'm using Seven on HD2. There were compatibility problems with custom ROMs on other devices based on leaked Leo Manila.
Why don't you use Blackberry Connect on your Wm device? That way, you can sync the same way as Blackberry devices. Of course that requires you to have BB access rights, but since they are so BB happy, you may be able to get that.
You can get it here: http://www.htc.com/us/mobile/connect/8925/install/default.html
Of course it is not specific for the HD2, and I have no idea if it'll work, but it is worth a try.
BB connect sounds like a good idea, wasn't aware it was a possibility, thanks.
I actually have a BB from work so I know that I am set up for it. However, I work for a company that are very keen on security so there is no way they will give out the settings I would need (its set up by the IT department and then just given to you).
Is there any way to get the info / settings I need from my current blackberry? Ive had a look on it and can't see anything obvious.
Just checked through some documentation on BB connect and unfortunatley it requires that I install ActiveSync and BB Connect on a computer connected to my works network.
As I dont have admin rights on my work laptop I won't be able to do this (unless anyone knows how to install programs without being an administrator!).
Looks like Seven might be the bset solution!
Vangrieg, which handset did you choose to set up for the HD2?
Thanks
I admin an exchange server, the most common reason for OMA not working is if there isnt a valid ssl cert for the domain, but i can confirm that as you mentioned, it will deffo not work if mobile access is turned off on the user account (there are 2 seperate options for web and mobile access)
i dont see any decent reason why a server admin would disable it, he must be on a power trip or sommert!
Thanks lancemate.
Could the valid ssl cert be the reason even if others in my company are still able to access as before? Its only affecting me. I've set up one of my collegues mail accounts on my phone to see if it still worked and it did without any issues.
When I called IT they said they hadn't changed any of my settings so I had assumed that OMA was the issue. I asked them to check and to re-enable and they told me they were unwilling to even look at my settings!!! Our IT department has been moved to India which makes it even harder to get any help!
Could an ssl cert suddenly just expire?!
Is there anyway of me to get a valid ssl cert for the domain witout going through IT to see if this is the issue?!
Been doing some more research and want to see if getting an ssl certificate onto my phone will make it work. Absoloutely no idea if it will work but its the last thing I can think off!
Is it possible to download the SSL certificate from my OWA site?
If I double click on the padlock in the bottom left corner I can get the certificate details up on the "details" tab (although there are loads of files and I don't know what I'm looking at!). When I click "copy to file" the export wizard come up but I have no idea where to go from there!
Anyone able to offer any assistance please?
Also, I'm sure this is a stupid question but would I need to put this certificate on my phone or could I use a different one?!
Thanks
It cant be an SSL Cerificate issue if your Colleague's account works on your device.
It MUST be that OMA is disabled on your account or something else is horribly wrong. As mentioned above i cant see any reason why an Exchange administrator would disable OMA.
Can you connect to your account using activesync on a different device to check whether its the phone or settings on server side?
To help you with using Blackberry Connect as a possible solution here are some resources on how to run programs that require admin level on machines you havent been given admin rights to. Some methods cover your tracks completely and others simply let you create/amend and delete windows accounts and associated rights in whatever way you need.
i would suggest using the first link to create a bootable usb stick that loads a modified linux command prompt. You can then use this to give yourself local admin rights.
http://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/
http://www.jms1.net/nt-unlock.shtml
http://internetbusinessdaily.net/how-to-hack-a-window-xp-admins-password/
I've tried to set up on 2 other phones, bith with no joy so I'm guessing its the server side rather than the phone.
Is there no way that its anything to do with the ssl certificate? Are they set up company rather than by user? Will my suggestion of putting a certificate on my phone definately not work (if I could even find out how to export it from OWA)?!
I also cant see why the OMA would have been diabled so thinking it must be something else!
Thanks
I share Gooner's concerns and look forward to finding a solution. 1) My company has not yet enabled mobile devices to sync via Outlook Web Access. 2) Blackberry Connect does not yet work on HD2. There is a thread for BBC on this very same forum.
I am confident that a solution will soon emerge for 1) and/or 2).
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It cant be an SSL Cerificate issue if your Colleague's account works on your device.
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Well, sometimes you need to install the certificate manually on your device to make it work. That's the case where I work - we use a self-signed certificate.
I use zarafa as a direct replacement for exchange, it syncs my emails,calendars, contacts etc.
It allows push email as well.
Hi JMes
After looking around I have found it appears that there are 2 services that will allow you to sync a mobile device using OWA, even if it is not set up for OMA.
Seven - Currently in beta but others have had success with this service on an HD2. I believe that it will sync Calendar, Tasks and Email.
Emoze - Also allows you to check outlook via OWA and offers a free service or a paid for service. Paid for service allows you to remove the "sent from emoze" tag allows attachemnts to be sent up to 2mb (rather than 100kb). Think it costs 10 euros a year.