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I want to keep my two weeks old 8525 but the batt life is just not right.
Yesterday, it was 100% at 6am.
I have some phone calls but they were not long by any scretch, 1-2 mins long.
By 3pm, it was at 30% and by 4pm, it was at the 20% where BT won't work anymore.
And I haven't even used BT, wifi e.g. the whole day.
Last night, it was 100% charged so I turned off the radio and pda and unplugged it before bed.
This am, I turned the radio on and the phone was at 70% !!
I made a speakerphone call to my sister for 3 minutes.
The battery is now at 60% !!.
Could it be I'm not using the correct ac charger which I haven't broken out in light of the fact that I may have to return it.
I didn't think using my abundant Moto mini-usb chargers was a problem since it does reach 100%.
That said, though for some reason, my mini-usb car charger I used for my 8125, won't charge the 8525 at all.
I don't have any background apps nor any timed email retrievals.
Perhaps I have a defective batt or something.
Could it be that Mortsaver is sipping power continously?
Could it be because of 3g eventhough I see 'E' most of the time?
Does ne1 know how I can set the 8525 to just use Edge instead of 3g?
Thanks in advance.

bdbx18 said:
I want to keep my two weeks old 8525 but the batt life is just not right.
Yesterday, it was 100% at 6am.
I have some phone calls but they were not long by any scretch, 1-2 mins long.
By 3pm, it was at 30% and by 4pm, it was at the 20% where BT won't work anymore.
And I haven't even used BT, wifi e.g. the whole day.
Last night, it was 100% charged so I turned off the radio and pda and unplugged it before bed.
This am, I turned the radio on and the phone was at 70% !!
I made a speakerphone call to my sister for 3 minutes.
The battery is now at 60% !!.
Could it be I'm not using the correct ac charger which I haven't broken out in light of the fact that I may have to return it.
I didn't think using my abundant Moto mini-usb chargers was a problem since it does reach 100%.
That said, though for some reason, my mini-usb car charger I used for my 8125, won't charge the 8525 at all.
I don't have any background apps nor any timed email retrievals.
Perhaps I have a defective batt or something.
Could it be that Mortsaver is sipping power continously?
Could it be because of 3g eventhough I see 'E' most of the time?
Does ne1 know how I can set the 8525 to just use Edge instead of 3g?
Thanks in advance.
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check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844 for a today plug in that will allow you to use G instead of U... and the 8525 doesnt come with an E icon so you shouldnt see that unless you did something to change it.... Also battery life does suck on the 8525.. and you will want to break out the charger for this phone.. The moto charger is only a .5amp and may not actually charge your phone sometimes, whereas the factory charger is 1amp

shogunmark said:
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844 for a today plug in that will allow you to use G instead of U... and the 8525 doesnt come with an E icon so you shouldnt see that unless you did something to change it.... Also battery life does suck on the 8525.. and you will want to break out the charger for this phone.. The moto charger is only a .5amp and may not actually charge your phone sometimes, whereas the factory charger is 1amp
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Hey Thanks!!! This would explain why the RAZR car charger they sold me at the cingular story doesn't always work to charge my hermes.....

slimsaturn said:
Hey Thanks!!! This would explain why the RAZR car charger they sold me at the cingular story doesn't always work to charge my hermes.....
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that could also be a grounding problem with the car charger.. we had a thread somewhere about all of that though.

bdbx18 - please use useful topic titles in your threads.
Do you know how many times I've throttled chipmunks using a reticulating fandango?
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shogunmark said:
that could also be a grounding problem with the car charger.. we had a thread somewhere about all of that though.
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Shogunmark
Think this is the one you were thinking of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1076879&postcount=28
Mike

hey, theres that link i was looking for.. maybe i should save my replies for when i am near a pc so i can start finding links instead of using opera mobile on my phone..
and Mike, i hop thre isnt n e typ0s n ths post

I only remembered link cos I wrote a battery charging thingy for the wiki that's got that link. Speaking of typos I once wrote an article for a student paper which should have read "Exotic cocktails to cater for all tastes" but it actually read "Erotic cocktails to cater for all testes"
Mike

You two moderators are doing a great job upholding decorum in this thread. Don't make me come over there and spank you - somebody already seems to have a little something on the brain
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well mod or not, something like this was bound to happen sooner or later... ok.. im done i promise

Just joking! And you (shogunmark) should be asleep!
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vijay555 said:
Just joking! And you (shogunmark) should be asleep!
V
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im a trooper, i came to work today, that is where i am now
and now V is hijacking the thread

Thanks a bunch. Its 16 hrs now with about the same daily usage and I'm at 50%. Only difference is that I topped off the charge via my PC's usb. Either that or I'm no where near a 3G connection today.
Still I'm definitely going to break the ac adapter. It's practically the point of no return since I just finished converting the earphones to a 3.5 mm plug so I can resume using my phone to play mp3s in the car and home.
I'm on wifi now for the last 30 mins and the charge is still at the halfway point. So this one is a keeper.

battery problem....wont charge if 0%

ok, on my xda mini s, if i plug the charger in at 2% to 99% it charges fine
but, i let the battery go so dead that it wont charge. so i bought another one and it did the same
is there a software fix for this? can i charge the batteries another way? both are only 6 weeks old and charge fine in my mates mini s (one of the first ones) mine is only 6 weeks old
its now getting very annoying
thanks

What are you running? G3 or G4, IPL/SPL, ROM version??

hi mate
ipl 2.21.001
spl 2.21.001
gsm 0.2.07.10
os 2.21.4.1
so just to clarify, I think there needs to be a tiny amount of power the the device to power it enough to recognise the charger is plugged in
i have 2 batteries with 0% energy - none will charge. The 3rd battery charges fine if more then 1% is left before I stick the charger in
thanks

Actually my boss had the same problem with his 8125. He was running wi-fi & music and it killed the battery all the way dead. I don't think there's a fix. He had to buy a new battery.

Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9

Looks like mfrazzz has the answer!

wow, ok i am a nuby and you might not like the solution but, every time my battery runs out completely and i cant charge it, disconnect the charger trust me on this one, lick the top of the charger connect it back and at first it will show a red light leave it there for about 4 minutes, then disconnect it and connect it back and your battery will start chargin again. trust me on this one ive done it like 4 times.

mafioso617 said:
wow, ok i am a nuby and you might not like the solution but, every time my battery runs out completely and i cant charge it, disconnect the charger trust me on this one, lick the top of the charger connect it back and at first it will show a red light leave it there for about 4 minutes, then disconnect it and connect it back and your battery will start chargin again. trust me on this one ive done it like 4 times.
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Dude!! I just have to ask...
HOW DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT??? I mean, where you just sitting around thinking... Hmmm... I think I'll lick the top and stick it in.. hummm... I guess I'll leave it in for about 2 min... no... 3 min... oooo I think 4 min would be perfect.. then I'll unplug it and ummm... plug it back in!! Oh yeah!! That will do it!!!
Just kidding around!!!

wow, amazing stuff thanks
can i get an external charger/docker for the batteries?
do ALL these devices have the same problem or just the newer ones? my old one didnt do it (unless it still had some power in it)
Thanks

There is both a battery charger that you stick your battery in and a cradle that charges both your Wizard and also has a slot for a second battery. I couldn't find the single battery charger, but the dock can be found by searching for 8125 twin cradle.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Twin-Desktop-Cr...ryZ15037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

mfrazzz said:
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9
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hi mate,
my battery does not have any markings to say + and -
do you know which is which?
thanks

m2rvh said:
my battery does not have any markings to say + and -
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Ok, on my 8125 with the battery oriented exactly how it sits in the phone, the + is the top most contact and the - is the bottom most contact.

Here's a pic of a battery I found and you can just make out the + (red) / - (black) on the pic.
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im not trying to ruin this great party, but were you trying to charge your MDA with the USB cord after you drained it? cuz u have to charge by A/C....
ohh and that licking thing....it works with AA batteries, 'cept you put them under your armpits for a few minutes

[Q] 614c don't charge , nothing happens when charger is plugged ?!

Hi guys,
Seems like something goes wrong with my Ipaq 614c. First the orange led /indicating charging/ was blinking some times. Blinks were no equals by time. It was like when the battery is at high percentage 80-90% charged. I ordered a new battery , 'couse this one is already weak , and i thought this is battery related /still waiting to get that new battery/ .
Today I have a new issue , that concerns me . Even battery is at 30% - nothing happens when i plug the wall charger . If i connect to a usb -> activesync works , but the orange light doesn't come in ! It stays slowly blinking green .
The most concerning is that if i remove the battery and plug into wall charger -> i have no led action at all - nothing happens. I remember that if i did this before , the leds start flashing fast.
Can anyone help with that ?

I'm thinking of damaged usb port or something. After battery was left couple of hours outside the device -> it started chargind. At high percentage orange started strange blinks againg , green light came out , but after removing the charger , it was not 100% charged (around 93%) . It was a little orangle , a little green ... funny .
If i move the usb plug around when blinking orange , gets to normal /not blinking/ ... so i suspect the connection is faulty.
Hands free also does some strange action /i hear , put seems like mic don't work sometimes/ ... what makes me think again for the usb port .... hmm.

I had that ones aswell, also the 93% charging when used slow charging.
I jsut left the device charging 24 hours, evreything was fine afterwards

If I get to charge somehow , the orange light turns on .... but after a while, the display turs on and orange light start flashing. If i poke the connector ... it gets ok , again ... for the next couple of minuties Sometimes normal state lasts longer , sometimes not ...
So charging 24 hours looks impossible

orange light blinks rapidly erractically
hi, rust
i have a 612c whic has exactly the same problem as urs. the orange light blinks rapidly when i plugin the wall charger. the phone screen comes alive but does get charged. iam at wits end. please let me know what did u do. any help is very much appreciated.

As I told you via PM , it's a usb connector failure. Some pins brake connection over time .
It's too tiny to resolder or replace , even solder iron with hairpin tip is very risky to brake it for good

hi.. i had same problem some time ago.. as i havent time for send it to service I bought another winmo device and decided to dismantle mine to see if i could make something.. as i saw, with my tools i can't do much.. but i am buying a new usb port from repairhppda and send it ready to be soldiered..
here is how it looks with a goooood zoom..
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and the whole device..

This looks like a good work . Anyone should know that first picture is a hell of a zoom !

?
Can the micro usb connector be replaced with any connector or just with an original from repairhppda ?
thanks niko

Nexus 4 stock ROM died.No red led.new battery.gets hot.Still dead.thoughts?

Sorry if this is in the wrong place,
XDA has helped me out many times in the past, I've searched but found no concrete answers with this though:
I'm a truck driver and often charge my N4 on the go, probably doesn't help the battery, which for the last few months has begun to discharge in around 6 hours. I nearly bought a new battery but put it off then the phone died.
I plugged it into a in car (truck) charger on the 12v socket whilst at 5% and the charger started smoking. Pulled it out and found the phone was off and unresponsive (no surprise) with no red LEDs or otherwise.
Each time I did the following i also tried the volume down and power key or volume up and power key combinations with and without the charging cable plugged in and whilst holding down the buttons as well:
I plugged it in at home from a mains charger, nothing,overnight,nothing.
Also tried from the computer USB port,still nothing.
Bought a new battery, no change.
Bought a wireless charger in case the USB port fried: seemed to get warm but that could be the charger induction coils. Still no power on.
"Charged" the new battery externally with a spliced USB cable, nothing
"Charged" the new battery externally with a power supply at 0.5 ah and battery voltage went from 3.45 to 3.70 still no power on.
Repeated the above at 2.0 ah and put the battery voltage up to a maximum 4.5v for 10 mins - this time the backlight came on and would stay on until long press of the power button.
Then the phone got REALLY hot. I mean to the point of "something feels like its about to thermal runaway" hot. Pulled the battery and eventually it cooled down. If I plug the battery in now it gets hot on the WiFi/Bluetooth module first then spreads out over the board. As the power management chip is on the other side of the board to the WiFi module my question is: has this phone gone to hell? Is the chip overheating because its now fried or because its not getting the right power? Am I completely stupid and should get a phone that I can look after (Nokia 3210 anyone?!)
I had a N4 before this that packed up on me and I think the PMIC may have been the problem as well,only ever seen one post about it though that went unanswered.
Thanks for any suggestions, not trying to waste anyone's time or space.
Peace

UPDATE:
I'm also trying to resurrect an older N4 that had RLOD but when I tried to replace the battery I prised the battery connector off the pcb...ye. Should stick to not touching anything and not moving from one place. I soldered a pair of leads on to the contacts this evening to see if I get anything from it and I got a solid red led so thought I'd hook up more jumpers to the battery and go from there, in so doing I ripped the track off the pcb...no pad left to solder too and I cant find where the track runs to patch into it anywhere else. So I took the pcb off the phone I first posted to see what's underneath, and look what I found:
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And also:
Judging by how much black blood these chips have bled and the exit wound on the PMIC I think its fair to say I have two useless unrecoverable phones, no hope of data recovery via JTAG and no working phone either. Hope this helps someone looking to see why their phone gets so hot and won't turn on!

Nexus 4 Not powering on at all. Battery dead or phone dead?

Hello. Recently I decided to pick up my old Nexus 4 again and try seeing what happened to it.
I was using my Nexus 4 one day and dropped it from my bed, about a foot or so, and it just cut out.
I opened it up to find out that the battery cable had snapped because I had done an earlier battery repair, and forgot that I should have let the cable slack a little bit.
A few months later I get a replacement battery, and tried booting on the phone. It would get to the lock screen and say the phone is critically low, and shut off.
TWRP said the battery was at 80% charge, but the UI was flickering a bit. I asked the XDA Discord and was told it was a storage failure.
A few more months pass by to now, and I decide to try and revive my N4. I want to see if maybe the battery was seated wrong, it could've been.
I reseated the battery and tried plugging in the phone. Now, I get a solid red light, that changes to flashing, and then nothing. or a flashing light that stays flashing.
I have not gotten past this. Is the battery toast, or is the phone toast? Can I test the phone without buying another replacement battery? Thanks.
- Honkette

You can try getting a V+ measurement from the battery to get an idea of it's condition.
If it won't charge it's cable or connectors may be damaged.
Even if the battery failed it should take some charge. Obviously it's producing some voltage but maybe not enough to boot.
If the battery seems to take a charge allow it the charge overnight and see what it's voltage level is. If it still won't boot it's either the battery or hardware damage, but doing this would give you more information to make a call.

blackhawk said:
You can try getting a V+ measurement from the battery to get an idea of it's condition.
If it won't charge it's cable or connectors may be damaged.
Even if the battery failed it should take some charge. Obviously it's producing some voltage but maybe not enough to boot.
If the battery seems to take a charge allow it the charge overnight and see what it's voltage level is. If it still won't boot it's either the battery or hardware damage, but doing this would give you more information to make a call.
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I've left it on the charger multiple times, and the phone seemingly doesn't do anything. never gets warm. I tighened down the connector screws and am using a cable I know works. I'll try to get a measurement from the battery.

Honkette1738 said:
I've left it on the charger multiple times, and the phone seemingly doesn't do anything. never gets warm. I tighened down the connector screws and am using a cable I know works. I'll try to get a measurement from the battery.
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Check the other ribbon cables, port jack/pcb, mobo etc. carefully for damage or looseness.

UPDATE:
I was able to get the phone booting, but now when i try and start android it immediately says "Power Off" "Shutting Down"
now what? bad battery? it's plugged in, it shouldn't do that.

Honkette1738 said:
UPDATE:
I was able to get the phone booting, but now when i try and start android it immediately says "Power Off" "Shutting Down"
now what? bad battery? it's plugged in, it shouldn't do that.
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May be the battery as it may draw quit a bit of current when booting.
More than the charger may be able to sink.

blackhawk said:
May be the battery as it may draw quit a bit of current when booting.
More than the charger may be able to sink.
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Should i let it charge overnight and try again?

Honkette1738 said:
Should i let it charge overnight and try again?
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cable>charger>port>battery
Yeah try that. Eliminate the cheap possibilities first. Seems like a battery or power issue.

well that might explain it
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Yay!

Phones working, forgot to say this on Monday. Although the battery percentage is fluctuating after charging overnight under LOS 15 and 17, no clue why.

New battery's dead. I'll try and get another.

I know this thread's old, but i'll just update my results with this:
She's cooked.
I got the new battery, worked fine for a bit, but the battery percentage was completely jank and would go up and down. Not too long later, it doesn't even boot. I'm guessing the EMMCs fried. If I find a smashed up Nexus 4 locally i'll for sure do a mobo swap since mine's in really good shape physically.