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*The noob questions thread*

The more i play with my MDA Vario, the more i get used to it, but the more i realise i'm a complete noob. I have been playing with/building/programing computers for years, but heldhelds are totally new to me.
I have had a look around, and this place seems to be where the pro's hang out. So could you kind people excuse my noobishness and answer some of my painfully noob questions?
I will start with...
1) Why don't programs actually seem to close when i 'close' them. Such as when i close Opera, yet it pops up again and again. I understand i can go into setting>system>memory and close running programs, but thats a pain to do all the time. So what the deal here?
2) At the top of my Today screen i have 5 larger icons accross the top which i would like to edit/remove/add new etc. I can go into settings>today>items and [un]check stuff that runs down the screen, but i cab't add new ones and can't see any options for the 5 larger icons at the top. Without instaling some kind of plugin, how can i change this?
EDIT: Ok, i see that 5 icons are part of something called just 'T-Mobile'. Any ides's how to change it and removing the pointless internet link thats that same os the hard button at the top of the MDA?
3) Is there an easy way to switch between running progams (like ALT+TAB in WinXP)?

To answer question 1 and 3:
Windows Mobile only minimizes programs by default. You can only close them, using the memory settings.
There are several Task-Manager and/or Close-Applications to override this "problem".
Some examples:
SPBPlus (www.spbsoftwarehouse.com)
Wisbar (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com)
SmallMenu (http://tillanosoft.com)
tMan (http://pda.jasnapaka.com)
vbar (http://vieka.com)
MagicButton (http://www.trancreative.com)
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Just slap in a new rom or the customized T-Mo rom that's in the forums...
What do you want all the bloat that T-Mo (and all the carriers) put in?
dangerous_dom said:
The more i play with my MDA Vario, the more i get used to it, but the more i realise i'm a complete noob. I have been playing with/building/programing computers for years, but heldhelds are totally new to me.
I have had a look around, and this place seems to be where the pro's hang out. So could you kind people excuse my noobishness and answer some of my painfully noob questions?
I will start with...
1) Why don't programs actually seem to close when i 'close' them. Such as when i close Opera, yet it pops up again and again. I understand i can go into setting>system>memory and close running programs, but thats a pain to do all the time. So what the deal here?
2) At the top of my Today screen i have 5 larger icons accross the top which i would like to edit/remove/add new etc. I can go into settings>today>items and [un]check stuff that runs down the screen, but i cab't add new ones and can't see any options for the 5 larger icons at the top. Without instaling some kind of plugin, how can i change this?
EDIT: Ok, i see that 5 icons are part of something called just 'T-Mobile'. Any ides's how to change it and removing the pointless internet link thats that same os the hard button at the top of the MDA?
3) Is there an easy way to switch between running progams (like ALT+TAB in WinXP)?
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help me identify this

Downloaded a cab file from a chinese website, its a today plugin that when you click takes control of your today screen and gives you many buttons to cycle through move around etc drag and drop. Has its own background and signal bar etc. Seems to be a simple application launcher which slightly resembles the iphone. Found it in an elf thread but not sure if it is from an elf. I searched the forum and cannot find anything really like it(i mean apon looking at the contents of the cab versus the content of other things I have found here) I would like to find it in english if I could figure out what to call it. I am attaching the cab file, havent gotten a screen shot of it yet but its not gonna trash your phone just the characters wont display if you do not have chinese installed.
Any help appreaciated.
Jeff

Anyone know what this is? Is it malicious? I stupidly installed it, but it shows up nowhere in directory structure, remover programs, settings, or program folder.

It is not malicous I have installed it myself and it shows up in remove programs to uninstall. It not showing up at all is strange, what are you running? Did you reset after you installed it?
I am running LVSW's latest wm6 release. It installs and works fine except for the fact that chinese characters do not show.

I did a check on the CAB, and it seems alright. It is called "dDockView", installed to your "Program Files\dDockView" dir. All files are installed there, 2 at "\Windows" and a shortcut. Nothing in the registry, nothing nastily `malicious`. Two of the files in \Windows are "dDockView.xml", "dDockPlugin.dll". Delete these if you want to remove it.
From what it seems, it only execute if you run the "dDockView.exe" in "Program Files\dDockView"
And runs on WM6 only.
UPDATE:
Attached screenshots. It looks.. ifoney. From what it seems, to be a launcher, that, the bottom part gives you the 'Menu' or 'Page' for the programs icons above.
You'll have to modify the XML in \Windows to point to your program and icons, I think.

Hey thanks for posting the screenshots I was just about to upload some myself. I knew it was a launcher but none of the chinese would show up as I did not have the local installed.
Is this comparable to the iphone app posted in these threads? Ive been searching but I havent found anything close to what files it installs I can only assume that its something the chinese have made but do not quote me on that. I wonder how hard it would be to convert it to english.
Jeff

Psiodon said:
It is not malicous I have installed it myself and it shows up in remove programs to uninstall. It not showing up at all is strange, what are you running? Did you reset after you installed it?
I am running LVSW's latest wm6 release. It installs and works fine except for the fact that chinese characters do not show.
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I have yet to take any rom plunge. I am runing wm5 on my 8525 all I have done is put on the newest version of radio 1.43.
When I installed it I told it to use my storage card and it did not fail but said install was ok.

Your afraid to upgrade os but are ok updating the radio? I seem to remember reading that it is easier to brick your device radio updating than just upgrading the os but do not quote me on that.
@hanmin Since you were able to see the chinese characters, what was displayed on the normal today screen where you launch the program? Mine just showed an icon with many squares of course because I could not see chinese.
It seems like a decent launcher for one handed operation and the drag and drop works nice, still havent figured out how to customize it all yet but time will tell.
Jeff

Psiodon said:
Your afraid to upgrade os but are ok updating the radio? I seem to remember reading that it is easier to brick your device radio updating than just upgrading the os but do not quote me on that.
@hanmin Since you were able to see the chinese characters, what was displayed on the normal today screen where you launch the program? Mine just showed an icon with many squares of course because I could not see chinese.
It seems like a decent launcher for one handed operation and the drag and drop works nice, still havent figured out how to customize it all yet but time will tell.
Jeff
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Didn't say afraid, said I hadn't done it yet. Still reading and checking on what one I want to try first.

@Bohemian, I'm sure Psiodon doesn't meant to say 'afraid', probably the word 'worried / doubtful' is the word he is trying to use. Anyway, good that you are doing that. There are various newbies around that jump in and die without knowing why
@Psiodon
I didn't install the app myself. I've just examined the CAB contents and did a bit of goggling myself. I don't even know that there is a today plugin (probably I've missed some lines in the CAB). From what it seems, you can happily skip the today plugin and launch it 'normally'.

@Boh, yes I did not mean scared afraid as hanmin said, just that you did radio first as I have not done radio yet but have done os many times hehe.
@Hanmin, I must be retarded how did you get those screenshots without installing it, some emulator or other way of extracting them? The retard thing can be verified with your reply haha.
Jeff

@Psiodon You can google for screenshots? There are forum discussing it with screenshots. Just grab it from there? And, yes, there are emulator for WM5 devices if you are interested. Get it free from M$.

Are those forums in chinese or english, could you post a link to it?
Thanks in advance
Jeff

can anyone covert it to english Please

@Psiodon Google for "dDockView"
@aih1977, from what it seems, it uses a XML file for all the setup and stuff, but it also has a few DLL files which maybe difficult to convert to English.

Hi Guys,
This today plug-in come pre-installed in S1 Dopod in china which is the HTC Touch "Elf". But this is only availible in default for china market.
You need to edit the xml to do batches change to del unwanted icon.
Too bad this come in chinese lang only. And I having some program in adding new program using the standard GUI. Think I need to use the xml to add new program.

That makes sense the chinese care nothing about copyrights which sometimes is a good thing.
The software has its own custimizing app built in, you just click the little down arrows and it gives you options to delete and add new as well as lock unlock the drag and drop capability, you can change text font colors etc, it has its own button library graphics you can select from etc.
It does what its supposed to do, launches apps, displays your messages count etc, goes directly to what you want it to go to, email for email, text messages for sms etc, self customizing (to an extent) drag and drop icons for ordering. Clicking the clock brings up time of course, clicking the service bars brings up phone properties. Its pretty quick to do its various tasks and seems to be a complete program, I did notice that it doesnt seem to show the status of bluetooth wifi etc at the top or maybe I havent figure out how to configure that.
If it were in english would be alot better thats for certain.
Psiodon

Translator needed...Chinese
I know that some people here speaks chinese, so could any of you please look into this and translate it

Is there a easy way to break of a DLL change (e.g. translate) it and put it back?

easy way hmmm. I tried translating it myself but with my limited knowledge on such things I couldnt really get anything important changed to english, just a few menu options that you could already figure out yourself. I had to change my local to chinese to get those characters to show up in my editing programs. Then had to make shift sign the exe then copy it over to the phone. Couldnt figure out the signing cab thing and didnt work much on that since I couldnt get much changed into english. I guess the other chinese is hidden in there somewhere but with the programs I used I couldnt figure it out. The other thing that bothers me about the program is that it will let you add control panel items, but not program items, when you select that option it just sits there. I assume some path being different on the chinese version of windows mobile 6? So with all the effort I didnt get far.
There are many people out there who translate programs from different languages, maybe they have more of a clue than I do, and the ability to fix the path problem with adding programs.
Psiodon

Psiodon said:
That makes sense the chinese care nothing about copyrights which sometimes is a good thing.
Psiodon
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Does this have something to do with the subject? So you're White western good thinking people? I wonder what you do around here?

Is there way to add a sound to the opening of the keyboard?

Well the topic says it all.
I want to add a sound to the opening and/or closing of the keyboard.
Is this possible?
Thanks

Any hacks for this? I suppose that the opening of the keyboard calls some kind of an event (since sliding it open changes the screen orientation) So can this same event call be used to assign a sound as well?

I also want to kno this and was going to ask right before I came 2 see this link...so please answer!

There are some really talented people here. I would have thought someone would have done this by now. But I assume, from lack of info, that this hasn't been considered before?
Would someone, who has the skill set to do this, consider looking into it and seeing if it is possible?
Thanks a million!!
Have a good one

Try this thread.....
Cheers!

That thread refers to the Herald, or Tmobile Wing. I found this thread and thats all I've been able to find for the Wizard or Tmobile MDA.
There may be a registry key that needs to be modified/added after installing the HTC Sliding Sounds application to make it 'active' for the Wizard.
Any ideas?

Im trying to figure it out too.. I dunno how to get it to initiate...

Need someone with the Herald (T-Mobile Wing) to help
Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!

chris.wilcox said:
Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!
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I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!

I installed the software that was made by JUVS....it does not work on my MDA.
Any other ideas? I had tried searching before I made this thread initially, and i had not seen the 2 that are discussed here. I apologize for having made a 3rd one.
Back on topic, I certainly hope this can be made to work. Any other ideas?
Thanks for all the info so far.
Later

this is a really cool idea, i would also like to know how to do it...

freakingwilly said:
I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much! This does help!
Unfortunately, I have the same keys on my MDA after installing the application for the SlidingSounds and it doesn't make sounds when I open the keyboard physically. I'm suspecting that the MDA is missing something, possibly a hardware switch (don't think so, though, cause it has to detect when the keyboard opens for landscape mode).
My guess is that this will not work on the MDA

Umfortunately I'm not a programmer, but I was thinking that the easiest way to get somethig like this to work would be to link the sound to play with the screen rotation instead of trying to get it to work when the keyboard is slid out which obviously isn't working anyway. It would play the sound if you rotated your screen manually, but I can't see why that would be a big deal. Maybe someone with a little programming knowledge could get this to work though.

I wanna keep this thread alive. SlidingSounds is something i wanna see work for wizards. It'll be cool if someone could craft a workaround or a new prog altogether.
Opening the keyboard is an event, shouldn't be hard to craft something to have it make a sound.

Any updates on this? I downloaded the app and it hasn't done anything, especially when messing with the registry. Thanks.

I've been working on tis as well but it seems that there is no way to adjust the registry to get it to work. I believe a app is gonna have to get the wizard to have this feature.

This would be so cool.. Alot of people have 'flip' style phones, and when they open them, they have some funny sounds. Would be great to have on the Wizard!

Anybody figured this out yet? I'm really sure it can be done.

im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it

Bells and Whistles.
ndn715 said:
im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it
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Maybe because we love the bells and whistles a gadget can make, it's all about your custom love that you want to have, not just everyone's universal preference. Some of us love to customize our phones to suit our personality, not just YOURS. Maybe these sounds grab attention of chicks, maybe this wallpaper makes us look cool in the sight of geeks. It's all personal prereference.
That's why I want keyboard Sliding Sounds to work. It's just one more thing that will grab the attention of people to see that, yes, I don't need a new phone every six months or so. I can make a new one using an old one by utilizing hacks.

i Phone theme help?!

Ok, so i am using this really tight iPhone theme made with wisbar advance 2, and wisbar advance desktop.
Also, the slide 2 unlock is like version 2.16 or something. Ok. so here is my problems.
1. Comming back from the slider (and turning the phone on). "Notification Error.. Cannot execute \storage card\program file\lakeridge\wisbar advance desktop\wakeup.exe
2. I am loosing tons of battery life. I don't know what it is. I have the wisbar and everything with iphone theme running. i was at 100% this morning and about 8 hours later, 50%. Any way to change that. (I heard that the slider like is set to run in the background, or it is always running, so your screen never turns off... how do you fix that).
3. How can i change the slide 2 unlocks's settings? (i want the latest ones because they are better). but i don't know how to change it. There is not text file i can change. (like i want to turn off run in the background, and change the time format, and change the background image, change some other things like the thing that supposably eats up memory).
That's about it. The error and changing the slide 2 unlock.. if anybody knows please tell. I want to use this theme because its tight, but these problems like waisting tons of battery are annoying.
Thanks in advance.

Take a look at the readme.txt, it has a bunch of helpful information for the Slide2Unlock.

the read me tells you what the configurations mean..
Like turn animation on/off, would be 0 or 1.
except it does't say how to change them.

Try to install the wisbar softwares in the main memory of your device. I had the same problem before but since i moved (reinstalled) the softwares into my device memory (not in the removable one) the error notification disappeared.
Sorry my English is not so good...

Thanks I will definatly move my wisbar desktop and everything, yea, don't like that error message.
By the way, i downloaded a registry editor and changed the stuff with slide 2 unlock 2... so once i switch to main memory for the wisbar stuff... everything will work perfect thanks for the help.

Ummm... Yea, something is really weird now.
It still gives me the error that it cannot start the wakeup.exe in my storage card. I moved it to main memory, and deleted all the other folders for it in my storage card. hmmmm....

bump. anybody know how to fix the notification error sayign that it cannot excecute something in my storage card.. even though, i removed the program.. deleted everything else.. then reinstalled the program to main memory? really buggin me. if have the screen off for a while, and slide it.. it always give me the error.. and you can't do anything til you hit the tiny close button on it.

s2u2 .80 is working much better for me than slide2unlock. faster and a lot less memory loss. you should give it a shot.

im using s2u2 v .81 and same thing.
Ok, this is really messed up now. I thought you know, that it would be either wisbar advance 2, wisbar advance desktop, or s2u2... well i don't know what it is. I uninstalled all of them.. they are all off of my device right now, and i still get the error when i start up my phone. What is going on?
Seriously? is there some folders that i didn't delete or something (btw i deleted the "/Themes" folder, the "lakeridge" folder in the program files, and from before, the lakeridge folder in the storage card.).
somebody, its freakin me out?!

I think somewhere on the S2U posts, it says that it isn't compatible with WA2/3. Check out www.lakeridgesoftware.com too

i think i got the notification gone now. I installed pocket mechanic and searched for the path the notification it was givin me... and deleted it. haven't seen it since.

Okay guys... another thing wanted help on... If i push the weather button.. and go to a new page... how can i set it up to look like the iphone weather. Ive seen it done.. but can't figure out how to get it to work (they use like weatherpanel .... but like, i can't figure out how to customise it or anything). Btw, if you can get it to work with any other weather thing... that would work also.

HD2 WishList

These are my requests that I have which would actually "complete" my perfect HD2... if any members here would like to contribute some info as to how I may go about and fulfill them, then I would have much gratitude. Thanks
-Aside from the volume control that MysticGenious posted along with his taskbar, is there any other cab or registry change that will allow me to change my volume in increments of 1 as opposed to 3 bars each time? I am familiar with the paid app, but I do not want to go that route.. If mysticGenious created something that works when you use his taskbar, then I'm sure someone else has created something.
-Take the application "FootPrints" for example... Unless I have that activated on my tab screens, I am unable to create a shortcut so that I can save it on as a quicklink. This is the same with the HTC Calender App and any other tab application. If its not active in the Tab menu then the shortcuts doesn't exist. Is there a workaround? I would like to use Foot Prints, but I only want it as a quicklink, NOT as a Tab folder. I have already tried activating the tab and creating the shortcut to the quicklinks, but as soon as i removed it from the Tab Menus, it disappeared. There has got to be a way for this to happen. Cause I mean the program is there, but for some reason it only works if its active in Tabs.
-Transformers... I have tried reinstalling the Transformers cab but that didn't work. I just want to be able to click the Transformers shortcut and be able to select either 1 or 2 and then the movie instantly pops up. I have the movies saved on my sd card now, but because i moved them out of the SD card and onto my computer at one point in time, the link that connected them is no longer there. Basically I have all the components, I just need some guidance on how to make the shortcut link and work again... I'm assuming that i have to direct the file via registry editor "Total Commander" or something, I am just confused when it comes to that stuff on my HD2
and believe it or not, thats actually the only issues I have left with the phone, I'm sure that someone has a suggestion, or knows an answer... thanks a lot guys

i haven't given up hope on the members here....
anyone know any information about any of the 3 that i have listed??

*Update*
I have solved my transformers issue...
thanks for the help community???................................................................
ehhh......
well either way.. in case someone runs into the same situation heres the original thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6392077#post6392077
cheers...
so any chances someone is gonna be able to point me in right direction for my other requests?? or perhaps even an answer??
cause this is a active hd2 forum, with many users willing to help out each other right???
one can dream.....

wrt links to footprints etc
you should be able to create your own shortcuts to the applications using File Explorer. footprints.exe exists in the Windows directory, you just need to copy it and past as short cut in the windows-start menu-programs directory. These short cuts shouldn't disappear when you disable the tab.

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wrt links to footprints etc
you should be able to create your own shortcuts to the applications using File Explorer. footprints.exe exists in the Windows directory, you just need to copy it and past as short cut in the windows-start menu-programs directory. These short cuts shouldn't disappear when you disable the tab.
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yea you would think so right?? but unfortunately this is the case... and i'm wondering how would we be able to remedy this.. cause yea.. footprinks.lnk does not exist... until it is activated in tabs.. and even if i decide to make a shortcut of the footprints.lnk when it shows up.. the shortcuts becomes inactive one you deactivate the tab...
its WEIRD... i think what it is.. is that HTC put a lock on that application, since its one of their own.. so that it can only work if its activated under sense UI... which sucks..
but yea.. so i've already tried all the "doable" attempts... i'm basically asking someone who is more skilled to tell me whats going on... cause the developers can do amazing things.. this would be a walk in the park...