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I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?

bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?

abricko said:
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike

This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0

Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.

I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!

not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.

Lock power button on TD2

Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?

If you lock it, how do you want to wake up the device?

I wouldn't mind finding a way to do something similar. Maybe not lock the button entirely, but make it so that you have to press the power button for a long time (say 3 secs), or press the power button and the hang up button and the same time.

no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.

chris10230 said:
no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
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No, this wont do what is needed. The Keylock simply stops someone from using the phone. It won't stop the screen from coming on accidental in you pocket.
You can 'lock' the phone from accidental use by pressing and holding the 'hang up' button, but again this has nothing to do with screen activation.
It is true that pulling out the stylus will both switch on and unlock the phone though, so disabling the power button may not be all bad. I still think it would be better to activate the screen via a single long button press, or some such.

Totally agree with swinster's comment and proposal.
- Lock the phone by pressing + holding "hang up" button (already implemented)
- Keep phone locked and screen off until
either stylus is pulled out
or power button and hang-up button are pressed at the same time
But disable screen-on when power button alone is pressed (like it is now).
- Anybody able to implement this proposal?
Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?

This would be a great solution.
Mine switches on in my pocket all the time, they should have recessed the button, I thought about trying to remove it.

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Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
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Its a bit of an overkil, but my laptop come with me most places.
Reminds me of the Morecambe and Wise sketch (??) where the battery was the size of a suitcase.
I think I need a car charger - which brings me to another grumble - why didn't they implement a standard mini USB interface?

Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander

alx37 said:
Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
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Ooh, Ok. I thought they were different shapes. Will look into this.
[Edit - I have just read that it IS backward compatible with USB - the different shape is becasue the HTC connection supplies audio]
I'm guessing that any old Car Charger with mini USB will work then?

anorak22 said:
Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
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When you set EnableInputAtSuspend = 0, it will not unlock the power button at suspend. . It will then only awake via the Stylus. But I do not know if this setting also works on the Diamond2.

I am having some odd problems with mine if i press the power button to put it into standby. Sometimes when i press it it turns itself straight back on others it will come back on if i shake it (like the G Sensor is somehow linked to bringing it out of standby). Can you guys check this so i can confirm if i have a faulty unit please?

I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.

swinster said:
I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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Thanks, sounds plausible, I'll call the supplier tomorrow.

I am sure that on my D810 I could set the lock on at zero seconds with no pin code. Then the keylock would come on every time I came out of standby but with no change of accidentally starting applications and making calls.
On my D2 the password is compulsory for keylock.
Any solution here? I don't want a pin code.
I power button fix would be even better to also save battery. The accidental turning on is a very annoying feature.

swinster said:
I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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ye man,ive got this prob...the phone randomly unlocks bcoz the stylus sensor...im lookin for some application that turns the sensor off....havent found anythin yet...

This is still, by far, the most anoying "feature" of the TD2 phone. I can't believe that HTC did not have the forethought to think that people might actually put the phone in their pockets.
It should be a simple fix so that when the phone is off or in standby, the power button has to be press for say a second before the phone will come on, rather than just a single tap. They can do this to turn the phone off, so why not on?

Buttons active in suspend mode!!

Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!

Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.

ruscik said:
Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!
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If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.

lindsaydr said:
Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.
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Will try s2u2 then
johncmolyneux said:
If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.
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My pocket is ghost free, as it is made of leather and in rain can get a bit moist it does work a bit on the screen.
Also if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.

ruscik said:
if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.
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Yes, but you need to slide to unlock if the lock screen is working correctly. This will not happen by accident, in your pocket.
You can only unlock your phone with the hardware buttons if the known issue of the lock screen rears it's ugly head.
Doing what I said, before each journey, will make sure that you cannot unlock the screen with a simple button-press.

Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.

Cret said:
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol

Cret said:
Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.
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Well it took me all but 45 min to realise my problem is still there with s2u2 but other things are even worse so back to stock lock.
I am quite certain that option must still be in there. It was a tick box that stated lock all buttons except power button.

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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol
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No - I'm the same exactly. I just was trying to be polite so I didn't get told off here!

REQ :Unlock screen by optical click.

So after having phone for 10 days now i find that it likes to unlock him self in my pocket, and if i go near my pocket with my fingers, or if its faced down so it touches my body, screen reacts , unlocks and does stupid stuff on phone.
My question now is: Is it possible to make some applicaiton, that would disable unlock on hard Menu button, and any on screen unlock patterns, but just phone can be unlocked by pressing optical trackball down(which is nearly impossible to press in pocket because of its nice positioning)
And please dont suggest me unlock patterns or pins, because i just dont like them.

I agree, i experience the same problems,
and I would suggest to this idea, that if it would be possible to implement ability remapping of the on/off key ( at least the time needed to push the key ) to turn screen on. because i experience turning the phone on in my pocket by selfpushing the on-off.
and to be honest, i like to use the screen with my fingers, not using the optical trackball at all an sometimes when i scroll with fingers, it interferes when my finger slips, or rests.
so my suggestion. to increase the time needed to push the on/off button to make screen active if possible
to make the optical trackball push make unlock the screen.
and an ability to disable optical trackball scroling ( not pushing, just disabled scrolling )

I had same problem , way i got around it,
put a lock pattern on your screen, but also add a widget to set the lock pattern on/off, that way when your going out with the phone in your pocket you set the lock to on and it wont do anything. when your at home,turn it off to get easy access.

Yeah, that works, but is not smooth.
hate the lock pattern.
the ideal case would be by on home page to disable on off button and.
with long push optical trackball to lock/unlock screen.

i dont understand how does it happen for you guys, do you never use power button to put it on sleep? i had this phone for pretty much a month now and it hever happened to me even when was wearin fairly tight jeans.
btw try lockpro app from the market it is paid though unfortunately

cez10 said:
i dont understand how does it happen for you guys, do you never use power button to put it on sleep? i had this phone for pretty much a month now and it hever happened to me even when was wearin fairly tight jeans.
btw try lockpro app from the market it is paid though unfortunately
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+1, never happened to me too, i guess you guys set the screen to not turn off? lol.....
even if the phone is ringing, i can still take it out of my pocket without it being answered....well i must say it's in a pouch too....maybe thats a solution to your problem....

I think it depends on how tight your trousers are maybe? if the button is pressed, and you pull it out the slider slides down??
Just a guess

Lol yea and if your pocket is actually your underpants, since my phone won't react to any touch with fabric between my skin and the screen.
My suggestion is that you grow some hair on your legs (or stop shaving), then you will have no problems.
And yea I have never had this problem in the 2 weeks or so of ownership. Although I do put them in my pocket where it is surrounded by a layer of cotton being the lining of the pocket, so that it is impossible for my skin to touch the screen. Not sure how your pockets work?

Use the unlock pattern.
Menu/settings/security/
this way it cannot unlock itself unless you draw the pattern, plus it helps if anyone picks up your desire wthout you knowing.
P.s I have never had an issue with the screen unlocking in my pocket, holder or anything else.

As i wrote on end of my strating post. I DO NOT LIKE unlock patterns. It doesnt prevent phone to turn on, and + its damn ugly.
To repeat ones more. I would like a way to disable screen ON using main power button, and set it so it only turns on by optical trackball click(not unlock directly, just to turn ON screen).
I'm using nice leather case for phone, but lots of times i push it in i turn on the screen. + with other in pocket random stuff which i explained..

OnlinePredator said:
Lol yea and if your pocket is actually your underpants, since my phone won't react to any touch with fabric between my skin and the screen.
My suggestion is that you grow some hair on your legs (or stop shaving), then you will have no problems.
And yea I have never had this problem in the 2 weeks or so of ownership. Although I do put them in my pocket where it is surrounded by a layer of cotton being the lining of the pocket, so that it is impossible for my skin to touch the screen. Not sure how your pockets work?
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Well it happens to me sometimes. If I press the lock button and then slide the phone up from my pocket while the screen is turned towards my leg, it unlocks.
The desire touch screen actually works trough thin fabric (like the one they make pants pockets from). Try putting your shirt between your finger and the screen. You'll see it'll work.

unlock bug?
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As i wrote on end of my strating post. I DO NOT LIKE unlock patterns. It doesnt prevent phone to turn on, and + its damn ugly.
To repeat ones more. I would like a way to disable screen ON using main power button, and set it so it only turns on by optical trackball click(not unlock directly, just to turn ON screen).
I'm using nice leather case for phone, but lots of times i push it in i turn on the screen. + with other in pocket random stuff which i explained..
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plus isn't there still a bug in 2.1 where if you put the unlock pattern in wrong 5 times you can't unlock your phone and it doesn't accept your google account password?

ivicask said:
As i wrote on end of my strating post. I DO NOT LIKE unlock patterns. It doesnt prevent phone to turn on, and + its damn ugly.
To repeat ones more. I would like a way to disable screen ON using main power button, and set it so it only turns on by optical trackball click(not unlock directly, just to turn ON screen).
I'm using nice leather case for phone, but lots of times i push it in i turn on the screen. + with other in pocket random stuff which i explained..
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It is not possible. There was a big thread about this in the HTC Hero section. It needs the source code to be modified.

Not sure what you mean OP, my phone is in my pocket everyday and also inside a pouch, basically when i want to lock my phone i hit the power button and it will go into lock mode with the screen off, when i want to start it again, i press the power button and this displays a screen which is locked, i then have to move the slider down in order to unlock it, based on what you are saying i am finding it hard to imagine how it is unlocking in your pocket so can you confirm that your phone acts in the same manner as mine does and please explain more on how this is unlocking please.

haggisuk99 said:
Not sure what you mean OP, my phone is in my pocket everyday and also inside a pouch, basically when i want to lock my phone i hit the power button and it will go into lock mode with the screen off, when i want to start it again, i press the power button and this displays a screen which is locked, i then have to move the slider down in order to unlock it, based on what you are saying i am finding it hard to imagine how it is unlocking in your pocket so can you confirm that your phone acts in the same manner as mine does and please explain more on how this is unlocking please.
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Well i do know what OP means. I had my Desire one day and accidentally denied 4 out of 5 calls by taking the desire out of my pants. I make a habit of putting my phone up side down, screen facing inwards inside my pocket. So, on an incoming call the Desire shows the vertical slider, which is slided upwards by taking the phone out of your pocket, thus denying the call.
It's the most stupid design for a lock screen i've ever seen, and it could have been avoided if only one HTC engineer had made a few test calls to anothers Desire in his pants.
I installed Lock 2.0 which gives a horizontal slider on the lock screen, and which brings back the default accept and deny on-screen buttons. Still not perfect, but much better than the vertical slider.

+1 for the previous post. thx for the lock 2.0 app tip. I will download and try asap.
it does a lot of unwanted stuff in my pants...incl. self unlocking, call denying. etc..
shame that the unlock cant be easily recoded to the optical button.

Optical click unlock is already in the Cyanogen rom for desire.

[Q] touch screen sensitivity

Is sensitivity adjustable? My phone is constantly calling people on my contact list, or texting them paragraphs of jibberish. And jumps around from screen to screen "on it's own".
When I take it out of the case,it's awake, and it's on any one of who knows what page. And my apps are moved around, like I held my finger on one of the apps on my home page and dragged it to another page (panel)
When I turn the phone on, or take it out of the case, almost always the big weather and time app is gone from my home page. I have to find it, and drag it back home.
Before I put my phone in my belt case, . . . because I'm having this problem . . .
1). I turn off all apps. (Hold the select button down a few seconds. Then swipe off all open apps.)
2). I make sure it's on the main desktop page, and put it to sleep. (Press OFF button for a second. Screen is black) So the page that should come up when I wake it up should be my home page. And if it's accidentally bumped or presses the awake button while in my case, (?) it should be on home page, not on message page, or phone page. Or trying to log me into Google!
But it's getting turned on, and apps selected, etc. while it's in the case. Sometimes it's actually turning off, then back on. I hear it chiming during the bootup.
The case was made for the phone. Fits perfectly. Leather. And there's no way I'm bumping the side of the case, hitting the on button.
When it does this, sometimes it's on my messaging/texting page, and somehow selects someone to text. And is either recording whatever it's "hearing", or it types long paragraphs of jiberish text.
Any ideas? TIA! Wayne

does it do it on it's own?
When left overnight untouched, or left on table for awhile?
As far as I know the only way to physically wake the phone up is either press side power button or center home button and maybe the case is causing the phone to wake and register commands. Another possibility is voice commands, are those on?
otherwise there is a program that causes all the trouble. Once you know whats causing the issue, the fix should be simple.
I think screen sensitivity can only be adjusted up, for glove use, but that makes me think you suspect case being at the root of this, so either try different case, or lock the screen with password or something more difficult to activate by accident.
My friend "butt call me" at least 3 times from his iphone, but I never had this issue with Note3 since I have to press one of the buttons and then properly swipe the screen, within few seconds, not easy to do accidently .

And judging from your post, do you have your screen lock set to nothing ? So it's easy to wake the phone and do unintended touches, even in a case.
Sent from my N9005

Thanks
RE: And judging from your post, do you have your screen lock set to nothing ?
So it's easy to wake the phone and do unintended touches, even in a case.
Thanks for the reply. As far as I know I don't have my screen locked to anything.
No idea actually.
What I did find is that the sensitivity feature was turned on. I turned that off.
Then I turned off the voice function.
Tried that. No better.
So I set a password. That works. BUT . . . now I can't find where I turned off the voice rec.
And I've really tried finding it. Now I can't use voice for texting. The mic icon is gone from
my text menu.