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I own a i-mate jam (updated with rom 1.12.04 ITA). When The battery power go down 10% i get following message (i traslate from Italian)
"warning: SD/MMC
residual power insufficient for selected divice to work. Close some active functions or connect AC Power adapter for recharge battery and tray again"
Consequently when the power go down 10% i can't use all programs i istalled on sd card.
Before i owned an Hp 1930 pocket pc and i could use sd card under 10% of battery power also.
Same thing with bluetooth: i can't use it under 10% of battery power e consequently i can't use bluetooth headset.
is that a malfunction of the i-mate Jam ?
and is there some workarounds ?
Thank you in advance for the answers.
servizio said:
I own a i-mate jam (updated with rom 1.12.04 ITA). When The battery power go down 10% i get following message (i traslate from Italian)
"warning: SD/MMC
residual power insufficient for selected divice to work. Close some active functions or connect AC Power adapter for recharge battery and tray again"
[...]
is that a malfunction of the i-mate Jam ?
and is there some workarounds ?
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It is not a malfunction, but a security feature. When going low on power the device turns off those devices to reduce power consumption which will enable it to keep the data in memory for a longer time. This is something conceived for the regular users wh install their stuff to memory, not for power users like us who keep progs on SD etc.
There is no workaround I have have heard of, and the topic came up quite some times here.
Consequently when the power go down 10% i can't use all programs i istalled on sd card.
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The best way to avoid this (and do good to your device) is to recharge more frequently. I don't know about your usage, but with the batteries in the Magician it is thought to be better to recharge once the battery reaches 30%-40%. That is supposed to give the longest battery life.
So, if you can recharge more frequently and do not let the battery drain that low. If you are on the go for long periods of time, consider investing in a new high-capacity battery or get a second one so you can change them.
for psych0t1c:
Thanks for your answer.
I know it's better to regharge battery before it drain that low, but as far as i know, the more you recharge your battery the less it lasts.
Besides, even if you own a high-capacity battery, it can happen anyway to remain with a flat battery and consequently without all programs in sd.
Consider that i do all my backups in sd card, than when i remain with low battery power, i can't do any backups.
Finally i can't even use my bluetooth headset.
For all those arguments i would have sd and bluetooth at my disposal even below 10% of battery power.
servizio said:
I know it's better to regharge battery before it drain that low, but as far as i know, the more you recharge your battery the less it lasts.
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This is true for NiMH batterys, which are pretty old tech and no used in cellphones and PDAs anymore. In those you had a memory effect. Current Li-Ion or Li-polymer batteries can actually lose capacity when drained so low. It is usually suggested to recharge them when they go below 40% that way the battery will keep the full capacity for the longest time.
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm
For all those arguments i would have sd and bluetooth at my disposal even below 10% of battery power.
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It seems that this is not possible... I have not found any kind of hack or solution. Vijay talked about planning to take a close look at it, but I have not read anything about it since...
For psych0t1c:
psych0t1c wrote:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-23.htm
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Very very Interesting web site.
You are right for the li-ion battery charge.
I didn't know it.
Good thing to know.
Thanks psych0t1c.
anyway, if someone knows any workarounds for my problem, any suggestions are welcome.
Didnt read the batteryuniversity page but there is no memory effect in Ni Mh.
Memory effect was in NiCd batteries.
Li Ion is preffred due to 2 reasons -
1. Power to weight ratio
2. Life
High capacity battery.
Hi,
I have an O2 IIi, with a 3600 mAh and I can go for more than 3 days with it.
When I get to 10% of the battery I can for more than 8 hours. Stand by, and maybe 40 minutes talk time.
Isn't there any registry hack to modify that 10% ?
It would be great to be able to change this to maybe 2 percent as my universal is often out of battery when i get to it and i have to wait a long time before i can listen to my music. Surely there is a registry hack for this one.
The idea of this post is to make a statistic research about the battery drain problem. Maybe this will make us understand the cause of the battery problems -since I couldn't find something that solved the battery problems of all users.
I have checked these posts (and some others)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287165
and the "Battery SOLVED" topic
There are 3 solutions (they are post in Faria Wiki)
-One is mess with the keys
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
...
-Another is mess with the key
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
-And a third solution is to Flash a ROM with FULL battery & let it drain comletelly afterwards.
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Using the "battery status"today add-on I can say this:
The first time I installed faria 3.3 ROM I had huge memory drain problems
I notised that even in stand-by my phone "ate" about 124mA
The registry memory tweaks didn't change this much - maybe 118mA.
The battery in this codition lasted at most 18hours...
I reflashed Faria3.3 with the mobile FULLY charged,let it discharge fully and now I have 84mA consuption if phone goes to sleep and 97mA when not used. Now battery lasts about 48hours without much usage.
With the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms] etc keys changed and with manually shutting down the Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7) was 42mA .
Note: I have Faria3.3 ROM & GSM 2.19 .
In another mobile phone I checked, with 2.17 OS rom & GSM 2.06.10 radio, I see that the when phone is not used the battery drain is 24mA !!!!!
This phone does NOT have the registry tweaks enabled and even with backlight it still stays in 24mA..
Please, post your mA consumption here and say what you have enabled.
Btw, anyone knows why Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7 was enabled (started) even though I have turned off WiFI,bluetooth & IRDA?
152mA, was ALOT higher when i had 5+ programs running, around 200
I have Faria's WM6 and run about 57mA in standby, 125 during normal operations.
Here is my first contribute to this outstanding forum.
Hope this is usefull insearch of the power drain on some devices.
Note:
My phone does NOT have the powermanagement registry tweaks enabled.
And is an clean install with the Faria WM6 (The real Thing) rom.
So there ain't much running.
Just ordered Wisbar Advanced + desktop so hope to see more readings later this week after fully fine tuning my device.
My device
Orange SPV - M3000 Faria WWE WM6 (G3 Unlocked)
IPL/SPL: 2.26
Radio: 2.61.11
ROM: 2.18.0.0
OC: CpuScaler - 130<->273mhz By BatteryStatus
Startup Services
CapNotify
SIPChange (Resco Keyboard)
Startclean
Today Plugins
BatteryStatus incl Tray applet
Running Hardware
Bluetooth= off
GPRS= off
Radio= on
WiFi= off
IR= off
Power drain Bat= 100% charged
Wakeup: 70mA (after 5 <-> 10 minutes)
Softreset: 258mA
Hardreset: 350mA
Standby + 50% backlight: 302mA
After charging: (and pulling the plug out) 180 -> 250 mA
All readings do not change until i manualy interrupt the current status off my device.
I mean if my device after wakeup says 219mA the reading does not change even when i run different software apps.
Even if the CpuScaler clocked 130mhz the reading will not change.
I think that BatteryStatus is broken or something else is interfearing with the readings.
i went from 175mA to 125mA... just by going from 0 to 1 with the next tweak:
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
i use Fario's rom..
trying other tweaks now..
ok:
so without doing anything it just suddenly dropt back to 64mA.... :\
ok:
booting takes 280mA
I recommend not to use these ::: they sucked out my battery even more.. from 125 to 247
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
Today i did made two changes on my device and noticed the following.
First i updated my Radio rom from 2.19.11 to 2.61.11. (No errors everything works fine)
I just wanted a better radio because the signal strengh overhere is verry bad.
This update has on my device an nice site effect.
Powerdrain dropped by several mA.
Wakeup: 61mA (after 5 <-> 10 minutes)
Softreset: 201mA
Hardreset: 299mA
Second i messed with the key
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
I did not notice any effect on this reg tweak
I am using Wizard 100 ( Cingular 8125)
EDGE ON 24x7
Fetch mail using poutlook every 10 minis
Notification & Task Running
WiFI OFF
decient battery life: fully charged battery comes to 1.5 days..
--tux
i dont know what i did.. but its at 42mA right now.. and sins my last post.. it was @ 76% battery.. and right now its @ 75%... that means more then 12 hours have passed.. and its only down by 1 %...
last post was @ 01:30 PM...
WOW!!!!!!!!!!~!!!!!!!!!
like i said.. it took a really long time for 1 %..
but the moment i sent an sms message... it went from 75% to 71%..!!!
damnnn
Seems as if batterystatus is broken: my readings dont update either: it seems stuck at the same mA-value all the time, no matter what I do, or which clockspeed I use...
Also: the powermeter keeps at 99% (had been 83% as well); it never changes : (
My battery from 100% to drop to 99% might take 8-12 hours , then from 99% to 90% might take few hours (maybe 1-3 hours).
This seems to be normal.
I'm using the mA consumption because if you have an 1250mA battery I think this is the best unit to measure battery.
My apologies, but which program are people using to measure battery life consumption and how does one tell which program is causing the problem? In the past week, I have noticed my battery life take a nose dive and I'm wondering if it is pRSS Reader that causing my problem. I installed a power saving cab found on this forum site and I will test it tonight. Thanks for the help.
It might also be worth considering usage of GPRS, Push email, WiFi, BT, etc.
Curious D said:
My apologies, but which program are people using to measure battery life consumption and how does one tell which program is causing the problem? In the past week, I have noticed my battery life take a nose dive and I'm wondering if it is pRSS Reader that causing my problem. I installed a power saving cab found on this forum site and I will test it tonight. Thanks for the help.
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Be careful of power saving cabs. Some of them actually increase battery consumption.
I think most people are using battery status to check consumption.
BTW:
At wake up: 24-30 mA
When the phone has a signal, the consumption rate is low 24-30 mA throughout the day. When it is searching for a signal (normally at my work), the consumption is substantially grater. When I get back home the consumption goes back down to the normal 24-30 mA (I always have a signal at home).
calouro said:
BTW:
At wake up: 24-30 mA
When the phone has a signal, the consumption rate is low 24-30 mA throughout the day. When it is searching for a signal (normally at my work), the consumption is substantially grater. When I get back home the consumption goes back down to the normal 24-30 mA (I always have a signal at home).
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Did you ever perform the antenna hack(i.e. adding xtra piece of foil) on your Wizard?
MethodMan said:
Did you ever perform the antenna hack(i.e. adding xtra piece of foil) on your Wizard?
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No,
I never applied the fix.
I haven’t done enough research on the fix to justify applying it. Maybe when I get some extra time.
The signal goes in and out at work, so it's not a big deal for me!
Running an 8125 with Faria's WM5 3.3 ROM.
When I wake it up it's usually 51, or somewhere in the 50's anyway.
I just tried those powermanagement reg tweaks and had terrible results too :\
My wizard can last 3 days with moderate usage of wifi, phone calls, and movies. This happened after I followed the Battery Solved thread and reflash with official ROM and then I installed Xplore1.1. And for the first cycle after first time after fully charging overnight, I can get the 3days of continous battery life..
Since then, I have been monitoring CPU usage and it hovers around 1-5% (Battery status) when idle... Bear in mind that the current consumption value can be around 33mA to 150mA and still battery life seems to be good...
Weird but through...
calouro said:
Be careful of power saving cabs. Some of them actually increase battery consumption.
I think most people are using battery status to check consumption.
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Thanks for the warning. I used the power saving cab that was posted from a link at the beginning of the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191
(Second post)
Is that one okay? I'm not sure if it worked since I used my phone alot this evening. I have the standard ROM that came with the phone back in October. Thanks.
I get the solution for Battery Performance
jtrash said:
The idea of this post is to make a statistic research about the battery drain problem. Maybe this will make us understand the cause of the battery problems -since I couldn't find something that solved the battery problems of all users.
I have checked these posts (and some others)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287165
and the "Battery SOLVED" topic
There are 3 solutions (they are post in Faria Wiki)
-One is mess with the keys
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
...
-Another is mess with the key
HKLM/Drivers/SDCARD/ClientDrivers/Class/SDMemory_Class/DisablePowerManagement
-And a third solution is to Flash a ROM with FULL battery & let it drain comletelly afterwards.
---------------------------------------
Using the "battery status"today add-on I can say this:
The first time I installed faria 3.3 ROM I had huge memory drain problems
I notised that even in stand-by my phone "ate" about 124mA
The registry memory tweaks didn't change this much - maybe 118mA.
The battery in this codition lasted at most 18hours...
I reflashed Faria3.3 with the mobile FULLY charged,let it discharge fully and now I have 84mA consuption if phone goes to sleep and 97mA when not used. Now battery lasts about 48hours without much usage.
With the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms] etc keys changed and with manually shutting down the Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7) was 42mA .
Note: I have Faria3.3 ROM & GSM 2.19 .
In another mobile phone I checked, with 2.17 OS rom & GSM 2.06.10 radio, I see that the when phone is not used the battery drain is 24mA !!!!!
This phone does NOT have the registry tweaks enabled and even with backlight it still stays in 24mA..
Please, post your mA consumption here and say what you have enabled.
Btw, anyone knows why Wireless Monitor Service(WMS7 was enabled (started) even though I have turned off WiFI,bluetooth & IRDA?
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Dear,
I have upgraded my HTC Touch from WM 6.0 to 6.1. I have faced the big problem of Heavy Battery Drain. I was confused. I try to find out the solution over XDA Forum.
My problem was, "after charged 100%, then after 5-10 menutes it goes to 80%. and then it start draining very fast."
I have changed the registry for :
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Irsir1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\PPTP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\L2TP1\Parms]
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:1
Change to
"DisablePowerManagement"=dword:0
and Set the Wireless Monitor Service from Automatic to Manual.
But, I still have the same problem, why after 100% charged & after unpluged it goes to 94% thereafter 88% and within 5 menute it goes to 80%.
Thanks to the XDA Forum Members, help me out.
Mehul Patel
My battery on the HTC Pure went from 45% charge to 2% auto-shutoff within a matter of 1.5 hours without any usage on my part. In fact, I had rebooted it and not touched it since.
The thing has been dying a lot faster after I installed some programs from Marketplace. I'm wondering if they are doing background processes that zap its power or what.
Any recommendations on monitoring what's going on in the background???
try to calibrate battery
(thanks helgee):
1. Discharge the device. Absolutely.
2. Take out battery for 60 sec.
3. Put the battery back. Don't switch on the device!
4. Charge the device by normal way (not by usb!) to the full state (green LED).
5. Take out battery again for 60 sec.
6. Put the battery back.
7. Switch on the device.
How can you discharged your battery? I didn't find a option on my Touch Diamond 2.
Ciedric said:
How can you discharged your battery? I didn't find a option on my Touch Diamond 2.
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You don't do this unless you want to damage the battery.
crypted said:
My battery on the HTC Pure went from 45% charge to 2% auto-shutoff within a matter of 1.5 hours without any usage on my part. In fact, I had rebooted it and not touched it since.
The thing has been dying a lot faster after I installed some programs from Marketplace. I'm wondering if they are doing background processes that zap its power or what.
Any recommendations on monitoring what's going on in the background???
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Exactly the same thing here, after installing some apps from Marketplace, the batt started to drain very fast. Don't know why yet. The apps installed are:
Mobeedo
Bing
Pocketnow
The Daily News
I've removed Mobeedo, The Daily News and Pocketnow just to test if they were doing something.
abzza said:
try to calibrate battery
(thanks helgee):
1. Discharge the device. Absolutely.
2. Take out battery for 60 sec.
3. Put the battery back. Don't switch on the device!
4. Charge the device by normal way (not by usb!) to the full state (green LED).
5. Take out battery again for 60 sec.
6. Put the battery back.
7. Switch on the device.
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I did this and it worked, now it appears to last even more than before.
Thanks a lot.
Hi,i´ve tried that 2 times and no result,can you help me with this,less than a day with battery is very sad...!
I´ve disabled the sense and i´m running the predifinicion of windows 6.5!
Big hug!
hi
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...rtmentProductId/54290922/shopGroupId/40547521
Tryied and loved it...!
Fast battery discharge
I had this very same problem. I had it with WM 6.1 and the Pure. Both due to the same app. BING is your problem. If you have a memory card in your phone it causes it to be constantly accessed instead of just on demand such as with storing pictures from camera. This is a battery life killer. Ditch BING, remove your storage card, save what you want to a PC and wipe it. After that put your saved files back on the card and put back in phone. This should stop the battery drain issue. Hope this helps.
ALSO: Some people swear by the battery drain and charge thing...others do not. Use it if you like but without getting rid of BING or finding a way to keep it from accessing your memory card the difference you will see will be barely noticeable.
Radio!~
u can change the radio , then u will get better.
my radio is 4.49.25.17
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
boomboomer said:
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
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it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
thegios said:
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
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When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
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Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
thegios said:
Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
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Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
kuzibri said:
Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
I don't know any1 else with an HD1 :-(
battery charges quite quickly on the wall socket, slower via usb butbthat's normal...
hard reset?!?!?! noooooooooooooo hahahaha I'm trying to figure out what's the problem to avoid hard resetting and spending 2 days reinstalling and reconfiguring everything
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
no
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
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will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
thegios said:
will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
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AFAIK, this is not normal behaviour, unless you leave it out for hours and hours.
regards, Kuzibri
To [OP]
which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
backlashsid said:
which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
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You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
Standby is prevented
thegios said:
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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man ! i know how to take the screen shot ! i meant which program to give that graph sort of data map !!!!
kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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actually I have used SPB WIRELESS MONITOR to log the data usage and export the log in a csv file, than imported the log in Excel, gave a little color and formatting and took a screenshot with ALT + PRINTSCREEN
ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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am gonna try ur tool...
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
thegios said:
Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
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If we take the example of the original poster, after charging the battery to 100%, both counters shows 0 hours in the evening.
The next morning one would expect possibly following values:
Battery charge: 97%
Operation: 0h, 2 min, 42 sec
Standby: 8h, 42 min, 42 sec
But if you see this:
Battery charge: 70%
Operation: 8h, 45 min, 42 sec
Standby: 0h, 0 min, 0 sec
Then the device never was in the standby state.
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
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Yes, this would be no problem, but...
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
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This is not possible. Because in standby state, all components of the device are switched without current. Merely the memory (RAM) is supplied still with voltage to data preservation. In addition, the CPU is switched off. Merely a separate, programmable timer and a component for monitoring of the external interfaces are still in company. Therefore, no application can be executed.Hence, such a tool can recognize only after the turning on of the device whether the battery was charged/discharged while in suspend state.
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
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Here in this post I have written something about this.
thegios said:
it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
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I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
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I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
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I may have solved the probelm: removed from auto startip the following links
DelWMPTempFolder from /windows folder
PostBootPopup from /spbbackup folder
I tried to search but the results were not conclusive, so decided to start separate thread.
I installed NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.9a on an SD card to try it first, and I am running it from Windows Mobile through haret. Performance is good, everything seems to work fine, besides the battery life. It drains the battery in about 10% an hour. On Windows, it can last several days with the same type of usage, so it is not the battery.
Better battery stats does not show anything useful - it reports that the main consumption comes from the OS itself.
Nothing seems to alter that behavior significantly - I wiped and installed the ROM again, so that there are no applications of my own running. I turned off wifi, mobile data, and changed connection to 2G. That causes only minor variations in the battery drain. Played with the cpu governors - same thing, just minor improvements.
My device is T-Mobile HD2 with class 4 SD card. I used PPP when installing the build as the other setting did not work for me.
Has anybody experienced the same behavior? Do you think I will be better off if I put the ROM on NAND?
grga1 said:
I tried to search but the results were not conclusive, so decided to start separate thread.
I installed NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.9a on an SD card to try it first, and I am running it from Windows Mobile through haret. Performance is good, everything seems to work fine, besides the battery life. It drains the battery in about 10% an hour. On Windows, it can last several days with the same type of usage, so it is not the battery.
Better battery stats does not show anything useful - it reports that the main consumption comes from the OS itself.
Nothing seems to alter that behavior significantly - I wiped and installed the ROM again, so that there are no applications of my own running. I turned off wifi, mobile data, and changed connection to 2G. That causes only minor variations in the battery drain. Played with the cpu governors - same thing, just minor improvements.
My device is T-Mobile HD2 with class 4 SD card. I used PPP when installing the build as the other setting did not work for me.
Has anybody experienced the same behavior? Do you think I will be better off if I put the ROM on NAND?
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Try using NAND it does reduce battery usage by some percentage. But don't expect a big change in battery drain , it is common issue that we all are facing.
Battery should last about a day on normal usage. 10% per hour is a lot. Is your screen turned on? Screen takes most energy of all. Turn intensity down and let it turn to sleep in 30 secs or 1 minute.
Also, frequent battery checking drains battery too, so leave the phone alone
Don't use tools as juice defender, my opinion is they take more juice than they spare.
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and let the rom settle down for a day or so
becuase you cant really tell what the battery drain is after
a fresh rom install
Ok, if the range is around one day, then I do not think there is anything specific with my installation. It can be weaker battery or too much screen time. It was just too different than on win.
Thanks all
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grga1 said:
Ok, if the range is around one day, then I do not think there is anything specific with my installation. It can be weaker battery or too much screen time. It was just too different than on win.
Thanks all
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Battery drain will always be an issue as the battery really is too small for the phone. Have you tried setcpu or similar these cpu management programs seem to work to a degree in increasing battery life.