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I've tried several pouches/cases, and keep having the same problem when a call comes in and I go to pull the phone out of the case, the Messaging or PIE button get pressed inadvertantly.
So the best fix I can come up with, is to remap the buttons to activate those apps on a Press & hold, rather than just press. Problem, is that the Hermes does not allow me to map Press & hold for any of the buttons except the PTT (via PTTFix - thanks Sleuth255).
My understanding is that the Button press versus press&hold functionality is implemented in the OS, so there's got to be a way to get to it?
That's incorrect AFAIK. The record button has press and hold, but it's emulated in code.
I don't think Press and Hold is implemented in the OS. I imagine Sleuth's solution is also externally emulated and parsed back into the OS.
V
Thanks.
I'm playing with an eval of AEButton, and it seems to do everything I was looking for (and then some).
When you run buttons application it tells you that you can customize button 1,2 and 3.
Button 1 is the Camera- which can easily be found.
Button 2 is set to voice commander which I would like to use but cant find
Button 3 is set to record which I also cannot find.
Sorry guys, I found them, Long press volum up and down gives you 1 & 2, somehow they forgot to mention this on the manual.
I am desperate for an ultimate keymapper for the touchdual though allowing you even to assign aps to the D-PAD would be awesome. Of course I would have them on long press only as to maintain its initial directional functions.
Thanks man, I thought that was it but I didn`t press long enough.
Hi
I have wondered about this buttons menu aswell
I would like to know what the other 3 buttons are which dont seem to have numbers
currently on my device they say :
Button <Ok/Close>
Button <Input Panel>
Button <Context Menu>
What are these ??
Hey,
I have a dutch dual, but i only have 1 button (camera).
is there a way to get the other two working since holding the volume up/down does nothing (not even repeating volume change)
I had no idea you could hold down the volume buttons. Thanks for the info
Hey guys,
is there a way to reassign the hardkeys home and back?
I also have an item "Buttons" in the settings but there is only one key defined: "Key 1 (Hold), Voicedial settings".
However, I can't find this button, where is it?
It's the first button i.e phone pickup, hold it and it will give you the voice dial
Key 1 is the dial key (far left).
You can reassign the back key with AE Button Plus. I'm not sure that you can remap home.
use AE Button Plus to reassign the keys, words great on my touch hd. I read somewhere that Home button is not supported due to different driver implemented by HTC
Thanks for your replies.
I'm aware of AE Button Plus but the interesting thing is the reassignment of the home key.
I wanna keep the back key as it is and assign an ok/close task to the home key because the end call button actually does the same thing as the home button namely go back to the today screen when you have a running application in foreground.
In AEB+ I have the following:
Button 1 (hold)
Windows Key
Enter/Action
Volume Up
Volume Down
Green Phone Button
Red Phone Button
Left Softkey
Right Softkey
Up Arrow
Down Arrow
Left Arrow
Right Arrow
I can access the volume up and down keys but which key is the back key?
I assume the green and red phone button is pickup and hangup key respectively?
Is there a way to access the power key at the top?
ez2remember said:
...but which key is the back key?
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The back key is "Enter/Action".
It seems that the home key as well as the power key cannot be reassigned.
Back and home key can be reassigned on a window by window basis in the registry. Not particularly useful, but better than nothing.
V
What exactly needs to be done in the registry to reassign the home key?
Even if I have to enter a new registry key for any program window I might use it is worth the effort (at least for me).
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The back key is "Enter/Action".
It seems that the home key as well as the power key cannot be reassigned.
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I just want to update:
the back key is not the "Enter/Action" key. i have tried to edit this button and it didn't remap to the Back key.
If you go to File -> Add Button, and tap the Back key, it will recognize the key as button #405C. I have remapped it to "Close Active Application" and it worked.
i don't think u can reassign the Home key as AE Button Plus cannot access the Home key.
I was also unable to change the Home key in AEBplus.
Concerning the back key assignment with AEBplus, I was trying to assign something to the long press but unable to get it working. No problem for single press and double press.
Anyone has better luck?
vijay555 said:
Back and home key can be reassigned on a window by window basis in the registry. Not particularly useful, but better than nothing.
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So how do we go about doing that vijay555?
Power Key
Here's the modified power key from Diamond but it can be used on HD.
When Power key on long-pressed, it will display the menu for choice. Tested.
Regards,
KCJ
just tested on Aeplus 2.6.6.1, the Back key = the Ok key, it can be remapped.
I have it set to:
Single press="Ok/Close"
Double press = S2U2
Long press=close active app
EDIT: Long press doesn't work... might try another method.
don't know if this works, but it is worth a try:
if you copy a shortcut to \Windows and name it "Short_Power.lnk" you can intercept the short power key press. at least that worked for me on my diamond.
you could try s.th. like "Short_Home.lnk" but that would intercept the "other home key" (which manages the cursor's position like end, up down, left, right, etc).
the magic would be to find the correct name of the key.
longpress back key (405C)
I know this is an old thread, but I haven't found yet a solution.
I'd like to be able to add longpress back key (405C) to the key menu on the windows config.
I've found the registry key that HTC uses to provide longpress send key, but I copied with no luck.
Anyone knows how to do it? vijay555 has said it's possible but never indicated how...
In AE Button Plus I only could assign the two phone buttons. What about the "Home Button", "Back Button", "Calendar" and "Contacts"?
The back button can be assigned. Assign things to the "OK-button" i AE Button Plus to assign it to the back button.
Great! Thank you very much.
Hi, here is a reply on AEB Plus compatibility with the HD direct from the developer:
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Hello David,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility interesting
As for your question: yes, BPlus is compatible with HD as well as any other PocketPC 2k3 / PocketPC 2k3SE / WM5/WM6/WM6.1 devices.
The problem I know on Touch HD:
- Home key may not be remapped due to driver implementation
- Long keypresses are not detected in BPlus for green/red keys and “back” button (button driver limitation).
- “Back” button corresponds to the “Ok” in button list so you will not need to add it via File->Add key but just re-define “Ok” button instead
- Backlight controlling will work in next BPlus release (should appear this week)
Anyway – just try and install BPlus to check if it will suit your needs before buying. It have very few “demo” mode limitations...
Regards,
Alexander
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all keys except home key works great on mine
By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?
mirandolo said:
By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?
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Don't forget the Volume Buttons (long-press DOES work for those two)
Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations
triffonovm said
[- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?]
Confirmed.
John R
triffonovm said:
Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations
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I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?
Regarding the back key. I have this not mapped for one touch, i.e., normal OK operation, and for double press I have it rotate the screen.
I don't like gsen and the gyrator - great apps but I just don't need them always there.
dannyng said:
I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?
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I have this problem too! Any solution to share?
That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.
Cheesy Dave said:
That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.
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I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
Thanks for the fix!
I shall try it tonite!
Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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I just tried it and it doesn't work. I guess it's a bug and need to be fixed by the developer. Hmmmm, just suprised that no one really notice this bug.
Same bug on volume up. I assigned 1P for standard function and 2P for WiFi toggle. Well after the first or second use, it looses mapping. To have it to work again a soft reset is needed...
Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.
Insane Devil said:
Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.
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I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.
Cheesy Dave said:
I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.
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Glad that it work for you (so envy, hehehehe) and thanks for the email to the developer.
Wondering why some HTC HD working (removing the volume slider option) and some not (like my case )
hi i want to assing the back button "<--" on the bottom with the OK button. i dont need the back functionality, what i want is to avoid trouble hitting OK on the top every time. someone suggested me AEbutton, that solved my problem assigning the volume button for up down navigation, but i want to assing back button to act as OK.
pl. help
Well, I've got good news. The Back button IS OK. Try it in a Settings dialog, pressing Back *will* save your changes.
You can assign actions to OK with AEBPlus.
This surprised the hell out of me - I only realized this after owning my HD for a month.
It also means that there is no PPC/HD equivalent to the Back button on smartphone devices. I had a Vox before, and was used to the Back button meaning "cancel".
JUst to add a little to that.
Is it possible in any way to disable the volume keys?
I cant stop pressing them by mistake
Bengaz said:
JUst to add a little to that.
Is it possible in any way to disable the volume keys?
I cant stop pressing them by mistake
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then just remap them so they dont work as volume keys on a single press ( i use the long press to make them go up and down, but in rreality i use the slider to actually move change volume so i dont need to even map them to the volume at all)
Ehm.... what is the slider? I read about that also in TouchLockPro and I couldn't realize what it was.