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HW keys remapping

Is any useful way to remap the Green and Red Phone button and the volume slider button? I mean for launch application or any function. Thanx.

There are some such programs for volume slider.
The most simple I prefer is attached here.
Just put it to the \Windows\Startup folder. It just "unbind" slider but not remaps it to another buttons. This will allow to use slider as F6/F7 buttons in programs able to hook them e.g. Haali Reader...

Thanx
It seems to be ok but where did you attach it? On my MDA is no offered file to download at this time. ThankU.

I've got it
Ok. Now is the sheet with uploaded file appeared. I've got it and extracted it. After i run the *.exe file it does nothing. Why?

because it should do nothing
This utility just frees slider buttons from default binding to volume control.
If you have an application that understands F6/F7 hardware key pressings (slider up/slider down) you may bind these key in the program.
As for me - I use them to scroll text up and down in Haali Reader text reader program.
But (as I said above) there are another programs to use slider up/down control. Unfortunately I don't remeber where I saw these utilities - but they really exists
And, as far as I'm back to the Andes from (Blue Angel) - I think I will write another one specially for Himalaya/Andes.
Ok, let's wait some days. If there are any results - I'll post the report here
P.S.: BlueAngel is the best HW keys equipped device i've ever saw But...

Thanx once again
Thank you 4 ur help. Now i understand that. And what about the Phone buttons? Any ideas? Ex.I want to use red button as Ok/Close simulation. Any ideas how to do that? Thanks.

Nobody unmaps phone buttons. It is possible but unresonable because of HTC is a phone device also. But I'll implement this feature too.

OK
I will wait for it.

The very first (and buggy) try of HW remapping utility is done. The application setup is available HERE
After installing .CAB file go to Start -> Settings -> Buttons and see the changes...
DO NOT INSTALL THIS APPLICATION ON BLUE ANGEL!!!
It will hide four lower hardware buttons until hard reset!
1. This app was tested on Andes with WM2003se, but should work on Himalaya/Magican with WM2003 and above
2. You will lose the possibility to use hardware key mapping in other applications forl remapped buttons. I need to re-grab buttons from time to time because the system tries to thieve them from me
3. Currently I don't now how to emulate green and reed buttons functionality after unbinding them from the system.
4. I can count any number of button pressings (3,4,5...), but -
5. WinCE reserve codes for only 15 hardware buttons (40C1..40CF)
There are some ideas for future improvement. But it would be nice to know your thoughts.
Just to "stimulate": I can create settings screen during setup to allow flexible configuration where you will
- choose which buttons to handle and how many key pressings to detect;
- choose option to unbind and/or re-map volume and phone buttons
- ???
And let me take a time-brake for 2 days before next programming session

The utility is ready. It allows you to:
remap each standard hardware button to 2 or 3 "virtual", simulated via double or triple clicks;
use volume slider to simulate Up/Down direction keys or create additional "virtual" hardware buttons;
remap Red and Green phone buttons to 1,2 or 3 hardware buttons each.
In a result you may create up to 15 hardware buttons (system limit)
Just install program and check Start -> Settings -> Buttons.
Here is Oficial AEBPlus home page, full desktop-based setup (~27K) and Direct link to CAB file (~30K)

Well done!
Excellent software! Thank you once again for your work. Works very very well!

man this is great really like it
works perfect :lol:

Seems to work great. Haven't had it running long enough to see if the camera button will get stolen back (big problem for me on XDA IIi), but being able to map the volume is great.
In the next version any chance of adding an <enter> option like Vito Button Mapper which I think just sends a <carriage return> to select whatever is highlighted.

Is "<Ok/Close>" option in button settings applet not the same?

NO, <OK/Close> generally tends to close the current window rather than selecting whatever is highlighted.
Also whatever application keeps on stealing back the camera button is still doing it. I don't know if it is part of the UK O2 customisations or the core PocketPC Rom, but eventually whatever function is mapped to the Camera button gets re-mapped back to the camera. This also happened to me with the standard button mapper and Vito button manager. It's a little annoying since the camera button is the most usefully positioned, and it is also easily knocked, starting the camera at awkward times.

Ok, I'll add this option for camera button (a bit later, in a case other suggestions arrives).
As for the re-hooking button by camera application: AEBPlus initializes all of the buttons from time to time. Currently this take place every 30 seconds. So if you will wait a bit - all buttons should be re-grabbed again

This does not seem to help because whatever application that is resetting the camera does it in the same place as you are storing the button mappings. When I go into the Buttons Setup it will now say that the Camera button is mapped to the Camera.

Yes,I see... It looks like Camera application is a pushy application . The solution is to remap "normal" Camera HW button to 3 press instead of one, but I don't like this.
Anyway - utility was released.
New features: added option to emulate Enter key with Camera button.

Hi AE, your utility is great. It is very useful but SIMPLE and SMALL.
I used it instead of other button mapper software.
There're some issues need tobe improved:
1) Mapping "Green" and "Red" button:
Enable mapping when they're iddle only (phone function does not work).
E.g: I'd like using Red button to close running app. But in phone function, Red button is still used to hang-up the phone as original its function. Anytime I have a phone call, I can use Red button to cancel a outgoing/incoming call.
You can refer the program of mamaich in this web site.
2) Single press is too low:
I press a key one time and wait 5 secs or more until it works. It's too slow. Can you improve? Double-press is OK.
3) Press n hold:
Can you add "single press n hold" for all hardware-keys? I think "single press n hold (after 3-3.5 secs)" is more convenient than "double press" or "tribble press". Do you think so?

Hi AE, very usefull application! Is there any way that we can have an options screen, where we can change the key options we get after installing the app? That would be easier to edit our preferences if we want to make changes to our initial choices. Furthermore I added a Mortbutton to one of your simulated hard keys. Each Mortbutton can show a list of 12 apps for a buttonpress. That means That I can now bind more than 60 apps to the buttons in total! Very good for one-handed use of my Magician, thanks!

Which buttons can be assigend by AE Button Plus?

In AE Button Plus I only could assign the two phone buttons. What about the "Home Button", "Back Button", "Calendar" and "Contacts"?

The back button can be assigned. Assign things to the "OK-button" i AE Button Plus to assign it to the back button.

Great! Thank you very much.

Hi, here is a reply on AEB Plus compatibility with the HD direct from the developer:
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Hello David,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility interesting
As for your question: yes, BPlus is compatible with HD as well as any other PocketPC 2k3 / PocketPC 2k3SE / WM5/WM6/WM6.1 devices.
The problem I know on Touch HD:
- Home key may not be remapped due to driver implementation
- Long keypresses are not detected in BPlus for green/red keys and “back” button (button driver limitation).
- “Back” button corresponds to the “Ok” in button list so you will not need to add it via File->Add key but just re-define “Ok” button instead
- Backlight controlling will work in next BPlus release (should appear this week)
Anyway – just try and install BPlus to check if it will suit your needs before buying. It have very few “demo” mode limitations...
Regards,
Alexander
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all keys except home key works great on mine

By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?

mirandolo said:
By "all keys" you mean:
- left phone key
- back key
- right phone key?
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Don't forget the Volume Buttons (long-press DOES work for those two)

Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations

triffonovm said
[- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?]
Confirmed.
John R

triffonovm said:
Hi guys,
I played around with AE Buttons for a couple of hous last night and here's my experience:
- Volume up/down - Work like a charm.
- Home buttom - Can't be mapped.
- Back key - Didn't realize it was mapped to the Ok button. I tried it out tonight. Works fine, but I'm not sure what action should I put in the single press configuration to preserve it's normal function. "Ok/Close" a suppose. Can someone confirm, please ?
- Green/Red phone - work fine in single, double and triple press
- Green phone long press is mapped by the driver to a virtual button called "Button 1(Hold)" (It's just at the top of the AE Buttons list) and by default launches the voice dial program (this is defined in the Settings/Personal/Buttons/Program Buttons)
- Red phone long press - This is a tough one. This button can't be captured unless you set "Lock device" in Settings/Personal/Buttons/End key. In this case it generates a key code and you can record it as a new key in AE Buttons. There's a catch though. When you map an action to single press, Lock program is no longer executed. Your selected action is executed, but immediately after that the device goes to the today screen as if you have pressed the Home button.
- Power button - Can't be mapped at all. I wish this was possible. I wanted to make long pressing the power button to soft reset the device directly.
Hope this info is useful. It took me a couple of hours and A LOT of soft resets to try all the possible combinations
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I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?

Regarding the back key. I have this not mapped for one touch, i.e., normal OK operation, and for double press I have it rotate the screen.
I don't like gsen and the gyrator - great apps but I just don't need them always there.

dannyng said:
I encountered the below problem.
After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. Instead of move the arrow up or down, it turn the volume up/down. After that the button work again as what I had configured.
Anyone having the same problem?
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I have this problem too! Any solution to share?

That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.

Cheesy Dave said:
That's weird - I have just tested and all the AEB Plus assignments worked before a call.
After a call the volume assignments I have (1 press = arrow up/down, 2 press = volume up/down, long press up = flash lamp, long press down = resco audio) don't work. All the volume presses just revert to the volume operation.
I also have the back/OK key assigned to screen rotate for double press. This works fine after the call.
So, status now is not working right - I'll wait and see if it fixes itself (!!) with a few minutes.
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I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).

Thanks for the fix!
I shall try it tonite!

Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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I just tried it and it doesn't work. I guess it's a bug and need to be fixed by the developer. Hmmmm, just suprised that no one really notice this bug.

Same bug on volume up. I assigned 1P for standard function and 2P for WiFi toggle. Well after the first or second use, it looses mapping. To have it to work again a soft reset is needed...

Cheesy Dave said:
I found the fix. In AEB + there is a set of options. One of these is the "restore volume slider" - by default this restores volume control to the phone app. It appears not to reset it back after.
I have just turned all these "restore volume slider" options off and now AEB Plus works as it should (or as I expect).
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Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.

Insane Devil said:
Thanks a lot mate! Works purrfect! had the same problem going on.
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I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.

Cheesy Dave said:
I'm glad this is working for some.
But, I got an email from the developer (who is very quick to respond to emails) that said he is aware of a fault with the phone interaction and has not been able to replicate it.
Removing the volume slider option for the phone might work (as it did for me) but it seems that the intermittent fault probably will remain.
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Glad that it work for you (so envy, hehehehe) and thanks for the email to the developer.
Wondering why some HTC HD working (removing the volume slider option) and some not (like my case )

Assigning Back button as OK

hi i want to assing the back button "<--" on the bottom with the OK button. i dont need the back functionality, what i want is to avoid trouble hitting OK on the top every time. someone suggested me AEbutton, that solved my problem assigning the volume button for up down navigation, but i want to assing back button to act as OK.
pl. help

Well, I've got good news. The Back button IS OK. Try it in a Settings dialog, pressing Back *will* save your changes.
You can assign actions to OK with AEBPlus.
This surprised the hell out of me - I only realized this after owning my HD for a month.
It also means that there is no PPC/HD equivalent to the Back button on smartphone devices. I had a Vox before, and was used to the Back button meaning "cancel".

JUst to add a little to that.
Is it possible in any way to disable the volume keys?
I cant stop pressing them by mistake

Bengaz said:
JUst to add a little to that.
Is it possible in any way to disable the volume keys?
I cant stop pressing them by mistake
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AE Button plus
then just remap them so they dont work as volume keys on a single press ( i use the long press to make them go up and down, but in rreality i use the slider to actually move change volume so i dont need to even map them to the volume at all)

Ehm.... what is the slider? I read about that also in TouchLockPro and I couldn't realize what it was.

Doublelauncher?

Anyone tried Doublelauncher or other Button remapper (Vito Button Mapper, etc.) with the HD2?
I have Doublelauncher (paid version), and found it to come in handy on other WM devices. You can remap different functions for different buttons--for single press, double press, press and hold, and even triple press (or double press and hold).
The HD2 doesn't have many buttons. I certainly wouldn't want to mess with the Send and End keys, as those already have different functions for press and press and hold, wouldn't want to mess with trying more.
I also certainly wouldn't want to change the single press function of the home, Windows, or back key, as those are important functions to have available at a keypress wherever you are. However, it might not be bad, if possible, to be able to map different functions for those three keys, if possible, to press and hold, double press, triple press, etc. (Or--are there already press and hold functions for any of those three keys?)
Anyone tried any button remapping programs on the HD2? Did it work?
One key I sure wish the HD2 had--an OK key! (I guess if something like Doublelauncher worked, it could be programmed as a double press on one of the other keys.)

Remapping scroll functionality

I have a MAPL100 and downscrolling on the trackball has stopped working. It works sometimes, but usually it takes me 4 or 5 flicks to get it to scroll once.
That said, is there a way to remap one of the keys in the bottom right (Camera button, mail button, and inner circle key) to perform as a downscroll? Like a virtual directional pad.
Or remap a volume key?
More thoughts: the inner circle key can be customized via settings to launch a program. Is there a program that does nothing except send a scroll down signal?
Likely not. How hard is it to make one? I've hardly programmed for WM but I know .NET well so if you have any pointers towards such a program I would much appreciate them.
Thanks

Bumping this. I can't scroll down OR left!

Hi, why don't you try to flash a 3VOLUTION SERIES ROM, they have a button configuration functionally which gives you the option to configurate for long press and short press several buttons, otherwise you could try by installing SmartToolKit or AEB Plus button configurator, however in my experience these apps don't work well with stock roms as they can't seem to register the key remapping; unless of course the issue was with the sd certificates, now I couldn't tell as I'm already on the latest 3VOLUTION SERIES ROM.