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Instaead of Hi I say you are great people
So the case is... I just need to have working Qtek 1010 with SOME additional soft on it inside a ROM...
I've read many pages in this forum and I'm able to find too many ways to change my ROM. I'm totaly confused.
I work for extremaly big worldwide company and they gave me q Qtek, told me to use it, gave me one simple application and web link... so I do.
But the Qtek is much powerfull than that so I need to flash my ROM.
Now comes a question: where can I find one document how to prepare for it, what tools do I need, how to do it... I know after some tries I will be confident enough to do such stuff easlily, my problem is I have only one try, they will make me w trouble if I screw my company recource.
I understand you had milion similar questions like that. Basicly I need help how to flash so I can be sure 100% not less that I can recover in case of trouble. I hope you understand I'm afraid to do it because lack of experience and you are able to tell me if I should try to flash...
or maybe it's better for me to ask my boss to by me a 512 MB SD and install all additional soft on it and stop worring about memory?
I'd appreciate any opinion... you are the best and I'm just new to this bussines...

Get an sd card, backup existing rom to sd card, very easy to do by bootloader method. Enter bootloader by holding down power while inserting stylus in the reset hole on the bottom left of pda then press top right function key, then choose ce to sd. Once you have done this you can check if it has in fact backed up your rom by putting sd card in the pda, enter bootloader, it will then give the option to program the rom, just remove the card and push the reset with stylus again, the other method to check a working backup is to put the sd card in the pda, the pda will ask to format it, say no and remove it. Once you have a backup you can either use xdatools to copy it to your pc or keep it in a safe place, no more files must be written to this card otherwise it will be rendered useless, if you wish to reuse the card sometime it will need formatting. Once you have your backup, go to www.yorch.net, cook yourself a rom and download it in the exe format, this will do a normal install from your pc while connected to pda via activesync, if it messes up you always have your backup. Once you become more proficient at using xdatools you might wish to try out lots of different roms until you are happy with the result, you can go on to sd card flashing which is a much better way of programming rom and much less prone to error because it doesnt rely on a pc connection. I would advise you to leave the radio stack alone, if you can make and receive call ok leave it alone. Have a thorough look around the forum before proceeding. Its good fun to program your pda and you can make it a much better tool, but make sure you always have a way out if things go wrong.

www.yorch.net not working... is there a place like that?
Hi!
I read the above post, one of the clearest here, and I almost got the confidence to finally do this ROM update...
But:
1) Can't find the www.yorch.net website where I could "cook myself a rom and dowload it in a .exe format"
2)It's still not very clear to me what exactly cooking a ROM means: it concerns the OS (the version 1.53, 1.72 type of stuff), the extended ROM (the default programs u get starting after and hard reset like the SW for the camera etc) or both?
Thanks!!!
Chris

Another ROM Kitchen
Try the following ROM Kitchen http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
I noticed that you have the XDAII. Now, someone please correct me if I'm wrong but the directions above and the ROM kitchens are all for the XDA I or Wallaby version.

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cchris said:
Hi!
I read the above post, one of the clearest here, and I almost got the confidence to finally do this ROM update...
But:
1) Can't find the www.yorch.net website where I could "cook myself a rom and dowload it in a .exe format"
2)It's still not very clear to me what exactly cooking a ROM means: it concerns the OS (the version 1.53, 1.72 type of stuff), the extended ROM (the default programs u get starting after and hard reset like the SW for the camera etc) or both?
Thanks!!!
Chris
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Chris,
Those Roms are made for XDA1 beware it's not made for the device you have!!!!!!

What's the kitchen for XDA II
THANK YOU!
I was starting on the wrong foot... :-( :?
Anyway a couple of more question:
1) Is there a place like that for XDA II Kitchen? Is my undestanding of what a kitchen is correct?
2) The process for ROM backup outlined above, is still correct for XDA II?
Thanks!
Chris

I'm in the same boat as you CChris. I've been diligently a daily searching through the numerous topics on this site looking for similar information. I haven't found it yet - or at least nothing not-to-super-technical. I do know that you get to the bootloader by pressing the power button, reset button, and down on the toggle at the same time rather than the Wallaby way of the power and reset buttons only. It also seems that there are issues regarding 'country' and that it requires software to get around this. I haven't found the software yet - the links that I've seen all point to "itsme's" website which is currently down.
You can read the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9053&highlight=
Hopefully, someone with a lot more knowledge than me can go over updating the XDA II as clearly as cruisin-thru did for the XDA I.

The instructions on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing are correct.
Unfortunately, there was an issue where the wiki removed the ~ from itsme's website's address. It's been replaced with %7e and now the link works.
If you download a ROM from the same vendor as your device (e.g. Qtek ROM on Qtek device, iMate ROM on iMate device, etc.) you don't need to use these instructions, you can just install the ROM upgrade from your vendor.
If you want to use the latest ROM (from iMate) and your device isn't an iMate, you need to decrypt, change the "country" code, encrypt, and then run the upgrade.
You can also edit the extended ROM when flashing, but it's easier to use itsme's extRom Tools. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8422
You do NOT need to flash the ROM if you are not experiencing problems, or if you are experiencing problems which the new ROM also has (for example ugly cleartype fonts, which may be fixed without flashing). Flashing the ROM may void your warrantee. You will lose all your data when you upgrade, and you should not restore a backup, only your my documents folder.
If you are a newbie, it may be best not to flash your ROM. If you typed in itsme in google, you would have found his xs4all address as the third link, and would have quickly found out his site wasn't down at all, but the link was just wrong.
Just a warning: the things that could go wrong when flashing are potentially much worse than a wrong URL, and the answer to those problems won't be the third link in google.

NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO DON'T COME NEAR THE RADIO UPGRADE I QUOTE I FRIEND HERE THAT SAYS
DON'T MESS UP WITH A WORKING RADIO OR YOU'LL END UP WITH A SLIVER BRICK !!!!!!!!!
BEEN THEIR :x :x :x :x

Rabia said:
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO DON'T COME NEAR THE RADIO UPGRADE I QUOTE I FRIEND HERE THAT SAYS
DON'T MESS UP WITH A WORKING RADIO OR YOU'LL END UP WITH A SLIVER BRICK !!!!!!!!!
BEEN THEIR :x :x :x :x
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Rabia can you tell me how did you get out from there?

never got out of it

Dopod900? O2 Exec?

Hi , I really need help from you guys here. I got a used dopod900 set, but when i boot up it shows O2 logo instead. meaning its actually dopod 900 with O2 rom. Well it actually do not bother me that much, but when I did a hard reset, it seems to me something is really wrong. I could no longer see SIM MANAGER, or things like Auto Config and some other programs. I can see that the rom is the latest i have but then i could not see the ver of the ext rom on the device.
I tried unlocking the ext rom with buzz's tool and it say success but I can's see it anywhere in the device even if I install Total Commander on it and also not able to see the ver of the ext rom too. I know something must be wrong somewhere. I did a hard reset as per what the manual says and follow through, and when its customizing the device automatically i can see there are installations like installing autoconfig....simmanager.. and even dopodasia.. and so on. But i don see anything on the programs listing or anywhere in the devices that these programs are around. So i wonder what happen. When i launch IE the first time i got the set i was about to see Dopod on the IE page, but after the hard reset it now shows 'Mobile Operator" and "OEM" I am still able to use the device nomally. but if when i need to do a hard reset it will be very tedious on me as I need the sim Manager to read my SIM data, presently i am learing the hard way of keying it manually.
I hope experts here will guide me through. Thanks!

Just download the ROM of your choice and flash it to that ROM.. problem all fixed.

The rom is already the most updated one. do i still need to download the rom? whether is a o2 rom or dopod 900 rom does not really matters to me that much, but at least all the major applications are able to use.

Well it sounds like your extended ROM was removed or not installed or whatever, and I take it you want it back. Flashing a new ROM (doesnt matter version) will put everything on.

Unlock Extended ROM

I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank

fmcgirt said:
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
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It can, just try again anad again, i did it on my 4th attemps
Cheers!

Thanks for the response but I haven't had any success after several tries. I tried installing the Wizard unlock cab file and afterwards with Total Commander, I can reset the Read Only bit on all the files and copy the files to my SD card. However, I am unable to delete any files. They appear to be deleted but come back after a soft reset. I would like to especially get rid of all the operator settings files. The rest of the stuff like Skype, Anti Virus and Backgammon I can get rid of using Settings>Remove Programs.
Frank

Isn't "ROM" short for "read only memory"?

hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?

Total commander does not work with the jamin in my case anyway.
Tried several time with no results.

shahzadkhan15nov said:
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
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hi,
unlocker for wizard is not mine...
buzz

...well, if anyone can give me a dump of Prophet's bootloader + clean registry export, i can take a look at it..
buzz

Buzz,
Thanks for the great offer.
I can give you the clean reg but how can i get you the first part, bootloader thingie?
Regards

I have used the Wizard Extended ROM unlock program to unlock the ROM on my Prophet. I now have a copy of the Extended ROM on my SD Card. I'm not concerned about erasing the Extended ROM files, I just don't wan them installed, so I did a Hard Reset and just when it says that it will start installing the additional prorams in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset.
OK, now I have a Prophet without extended ROM. I can now install the stuff that I want.
Most of the cab files I've figured out, Does anyone know what the following extended ROM cabs do? This is from the latest Imate Jamin ROM.
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_MP_Shortcut_MMS1_JAVA_VOICE_CV_051213.CAB
Default_PP_TSK.CAB
Default_PP_UAString.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_IconDll.sa.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_Patch_SD.sa.CAB
Thanks heaps,
Matterhorn

Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB is the anti-virus app which used to play havoc in slowing down the KJAM. Maybe this version is better but I uninstalled it using Remove Programs. About the rest I am not sure. At least you don't have Skype, backgammon and the Operator Settings files so I expect you will gain a fair amount.
Frank

you can use wince cab manager to see the content of the cab file.

Still nothing? Guess I will go the way of Matterhorn when I need to do a hard reset. Several others have not installed the Extended ROM at all and have reported significant speedup in the JAMin.
Frank

That would be me. I haven't installed one thing off the extended rom and my speed is really pretty good. You can see a video review at the link below to compare the m600 and the jamin (with no extended rom). Keep in mind I don't use mms, skype, antivirus anyway....so no big deal to leave off the ext rom. I also use adobe and don't need the clearview .pdf. Hope the video helps
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=849592

Thanks, Mike. I don't use the stuff either except MMS once in a while but can just as easily use email for that. I presume Voice Dial is in the Extended Rom but rather have MS VC anyway and things like Connection Manager, Messaging, etc., that I want are not in the Extended ROM so I should be fine.
Now to find time to do a hard reset and re-install my apps.
Frank

Everyone has diffrent issues, I was able to delete the files from there (verified by refreshing the dir, and I recieved no read only error) but I was unable to write files to it, which I thought was very strange, I am using APA_ext_rom_unlock.exe and it does NOT give me the success msg it acts like it hasnt even ran. I updated my ROM to teh test one that was floating auround 2.8.7 whatever, and I realized too late that aWizard has no way to reflash teh extended ROM so I am without all my Cingular apps and I have all the 2.8.7 Extended rom stuff with the 1.8 Cingular OS ROM which I reverted back to. Any suggestions how I can replace my extended ROM ?

any luck so far?
Hi guys,
Are we getting any hope/luck to unlock Ext ROM for JAMin/Prophet?

I don't know how you guys are doing it. I have tried several times to delete items in my extended rom using total commander, at least 10 times and the result is the same. After the hard reset all that was deleted was re-installed after the reset.
I have contacted TC a while ago, and have not heard anything, maybe they are working on it.

Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:

mikewchandler said:
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
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No, I think the end result would be pretty much the same. For me I would like an Extended ROM for the JAMin that includes exacty what I want installed - no Backgammon, AntiVirus, Smart Dialing, Skype and a single Operator Settings file for TMO USA. Then when I hard reset I don't have to mess with anything else, just let it go. I had my KJAM setup that way and I would like the JAMin to be the same. I would also be as close to an OEM install as I can get (without the junk) so I don't have to worry about proper default settings not being there because of some file I didn't install or installed in the wrong order. Having said all this and thinking about it more I am sure you would get to the same point doing your procedure and then installing the required .cab files in the proper order.
Now I have a question:
Wonder what would happen if I did a hard reset, then did the soft reset to stop the Ext ROM install, installed the required .cab files in order, soft reset and then restored from a Sprite BU file. Wonder would I be restoring any files that could cause problems due to an imcomplete ROM install? I guess I will have to try that first since I do hate to re-install a bunch of apps and especially have to re-enter all the reg codes.
Frank

Shipped ROM / Extended ROM differences

maybe this is a basic question.. sorry for my ignorance...
I am asking this because I have tried almost every extended ROM, but i.e. when I installed Jasjar extended rom, after hard reset, I didn't notice/found any difference, couldn't find an imate logo, for example.
So maybe I an not installing extended ROM correctly, and installing shipped ROM would be the solution. is this possible? , .. maybe it is the same thing..

The Shipping ROM updates 3 things:
1. OS ROM
2. Radio
3. Extended
The Extended ROM just updates , the extended rom
The Splash Screen (the logo on reset) is stored in the OS ROM

To detail, You could change you Splash Screen with any sevice Provider, Just install the .cab which you could find in this forum(Skin related sub-forums).
It is stored in the upper part of the BoodLoader.. Could not be loacted in you windows but with a special tool.

thanks
I've been asking this because until now I thought that in order to try a ROM -i.e Jasjar, O2, etc - I should just copy the extended rom files of the selected ROM in Univesal's extended ROM folder, then hard reset and you are done.
But I feel like doing this you are just installing a few mods -not sure -.
So a good conclusion would be.. if I want to try Jasjar ROM, I must install Jasjar Shipped ROM?? :?

jmcl said:
thanks
I've been asking this because until now I thought that in order to try a ROM -i.e Jasjar, O2, etc - I should just copy the extended rom files of the selected ROM in Univesal's extended ROM folder, then hard reset and you are done.
But I feel like doing this you are just installing a few mods -not sure -.
So a good conclusion would be.. if I want to try Jasjar ROM, I must install Jasjar Shipped ROM?? :?
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Yes as I stated above, the Shipping ROM versions include RADIO, EXTROM, OS update.
So you can install JASJAR OS but have O2 extended ROM

How to delete everything and install a clean version of WM5?

Hi,
I'm really tired of debranding my MDA pro after a hard-reset and I would like to do the following:
-delete everything on my device (use the extended rom unlocker to unlock)
- install a "fresh" WM5
- configure the system
- create a complete backup of the system like the Norton-Ghost in the pc-world
Is that possible, and if so, how?
Where can I get a clean version of WM5?
Has anyone of you already done so?
How can I create a complete backup of the system?
I know that are a lot of questions and I'm thankful for every hint
C ya,
Elias
Shame on T-Mobile for the annoying branding!!!

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Where can I get a clean version of WM5?
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I believe you can achieve this from the provided ROM itself by unlocking then deleting the ExtROM followed by a hard reset. You can then use other hacks from this site to delete or replace the splash screen and etc... to clean it up some more.

surely if you delete the extended rom and then do a hard reset the system wont work as youll be missing the majority of the installation, there are Cooked ROMS on the FTP site which people have created which I guess you can try at your own risk. I tried to remove all of the tmobile branding but found that they'd tied in some of crucial configuration after the branding process so when I soft booted before rebranding the XDA was only half complete... I too would like a good clean install without branding, unfortunatley I have to use the tmobile rom with its gay pink colours so that I can use their blackberry client.?

eli_d said:
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- create a complete backup of the system like the Norton-Ghost in the pc-world
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There are various programs out there that allow you to make a backup of your phone. Currently, I'm using BackupManager which generate an EXE files that you can save into your SD card such that you can restore your phone without having to reinstall the backupsoftware itself. I know that there are better software out there you can use. I think they call it phone clone or something, which uses your pc to store and clone the phone.
tonyb15re said:
... I tried to remove all of the tmobile branding but found that they'd tied in some of crucial configuration after the branding process so when I soft booted before rebranding the XDA was only half complete...
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I have relatively the same problem, that my phone doesn't support MMS. However, if you were to extract the ext rom (by any means) to get the CAB files within, you can choose which to install or not. I think you pretty much need to guess what each of them means.

Thank you for your answers
I think I'm gonna try the backup-manager.
Now I wll start another post "Avoid T-mobile branding by install Jasjar or Dopod-ROM?"