Shipped ROM / Extended ROM differences - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

maybe this is a basic question.. sorry for my ignorance...
I am asking this because I have tried almost every extended ROM, but i.e. when I installed Jasjar extended rom, after hard reset, I didn't notice/found any difference, couldn't find an imate logo, for example.
So maybe I an not installing extended ROM correctly, and installing shipped ROM would be the solution. is this possible? , .. maybe it is the same thing..

The Shipping ROM updates 3 things:
1. OS ROM
2. Radio
3. Extended
The Extended ROM just updates , the extended rom
The Splash Screen (the logo on reset) is stored in the OS ROM

To detail, You could change you Splash Screen with any sevice Provider, Just install the .cab which you could find in this forum(Skin related sub-forums).
It is stored in the upper part of the BoodLoader.. Could not be loacted in you windows but with a special tool.

thanks
I've been asking this because until now I thought that in order to try a ROM -i.e Jasjar, O2, etc - I should just copy the extended rom files of the selected ROM in Univesal's extended ROM folder, then hard reset and you are done.
But I feel like doing this you are just installing a few mods -not sure -.
So a good conclusion would be.. if I want to try Jasjar ROM, I must install Jasjar Shipped ROM?? :?

jmcl said:
thanks
I've been asking this because until now I thought that in order to try a ROM -i.e Jasjar, O2, etc - I should just copy the extended rom files of the selected ROM in Univesal's extended ROM folder, then hard reset and you are done.
But I feel like doing this you are just installing a few mods -not sure -.
So a good conclusion would be.. if I want to try Jasjar ROM, I must install Jasjar Shipped ROM?? :?
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Yes as I stated above, the Shipping ROM versions include RADIO, EXTROM, OS update.
So you can install JASJAR OS but have O2 extended ROM

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Install CABs from Extended ROM

Hi all,
I've upgraded to W2K5 on my XDA2. (respect to Buzz and all for their fantastic effort in making this possible) The Extended Rom is now unlocked/un-hidden
I'm confused about 1 thing. I've still got the orignal O2 extended ROM contents but after installing and hard resetting, I dont see the 'Customising' message and none of the CABs get installed.
This isnt a huge problem as I dont want most of them anyway but if I try to install them individually, the one I'm installing gives a message about removing the previously installed Customization Tools.
1. is the only way to install a few of these CABs to cook my own extended ROM?
2. Why would the original O2 extended ROM contents not even attempt to install after upgrading to W2K5/hard reset?
3. Is there a way to install individual CABs from the O2 extended ROM without the previously installed one being removed?
Many thanks in advance for any advice.
you can install whatever you like but
keep in mind that some programs there will not work in BUZZmobile 2005
search the ftp for a 2577 zip files there is the best colection made for BUZZmobile by another god thats really good ;-)

Changing ROM from Orange to i-Mate

OK, I understand how to do it with either the NoID updater or with HTC64 - that's not the problem...
What I want to know is this: if I change the Orange ROM to the latest i-Mate ROM, what happens to all the Orange network settings? Will I lose them or will the update only affect OS-type things?
Alternatively, which files in the Orange ROM will I need to replace in the i-Mate ROM (if I cook up a ROM of my own) in order to get the speed of the i-Mate ROM with all the Orange settings?
madcapmagician said:
OK, I understand how to do it with either the NoID updater or with HTC64 - that's not the problem...
What I want to know is this: if I change the Orange ROM to the latest i-Mate ROM, what happens to all the Orange network settings? Will I lose them or will the update only affect OS-type things?
Alternatively, which files in the Orange ROM will I need to replace in the i-Mate ROM (if I cook up a ROM of my own) in order to get the speed of the i-Mate ROM with all the Orange settings?
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I guess it depends on which settings. If you are talking about mobile operator settings (like MMS, SMS, GPRS) then they are normally stored in a cab file in the extended ROM so all you have to do is copy the Orage extendedrom to your hard drive, flash the imate ROM, then install the appropriate cab file from the orange rom by copying it to the sd card and double clicking.
If you are talking about other settings (Wallpaper, splash screens, etc.) then this is ROM specific.
I may be wrong but I guess this is how it is.
It's just mobile operator settings I'm after.
I'm worried that once I install the i-Mate ROM I won't be able to use my phone. I know there's a long post that gives all the Orange settings but it just seems silly to have to enter them manually if there's a cab file that does it all for you, you know?
Thinking about it, could I install the i-Mate ROM then run the appropriate Orange cab file?
I believe that's what i said in my message :roll:
Hehe these settings are stored in your extendedROM. Do you know how to access ExtendedROM?
Give me a list of the files you have there.....I'm sure you can spot the operator settings. Or if you want, install Imate ROM then bypass it's extendedROM then install all orange CAB files that you transfered from ExtendedROM of orange to the PC.
Yes, I've already got the Extended ROM visible and writable.
This is the complete list of CAB files in the SPV M5000 Extended ROM:
CAB-Customization-OrangeUK-Universal-01-05-15Aug05.CAB
CAB-Shortcut-Orange-19Aug05.CAB
Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB
Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB
Signed_Orange_SuspendResume.sa.CAB
Signed_Orange_UAString.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Customize.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_HomeScreenReg.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_SoundSetting_USSDAlarm.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Version.sa.CAB
Signed_pIE_Fav.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_Shortcut_WWE.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_WLanMgr_Orange_Icon_WWE.sa.CAB
Signed_UNI_pIE_View_Set.sa.CAB
UI_Orange_UK_0727.cab
UNI_BrowserPerformance.sa.CAB
UNI_Orange_2G3G_icon.sa.CAB
How about this, try this:
1. Install Imate ROM
2. Unlock/Unhide ExtendedROM
3. Delete Imate ExtendedROM and copy everything from the Orange ExtendedROM
4. Hard Reset
This will install the orange extended ROM
Now if you get some trouble with security/signing, there is a cab file in the XDA DEV ftp site that can handle this.... Just make the extended rom run this first before everything else.
OR
Just hard reset, bypass extended rom install, unlock/unhide extended ROM and then click on the files one at a time
How about this, try this:
1. Install Imate ROM
2. Unlock/Unhide ExtendedROM
3. Delete Imate ExtendedROM and copy everything from the Orange ExtendedROM
4. Hard Reset
This will install the orange extended ROM
Now if you get some trouble with security/signing, there is a cab file in the XDA DEV ftp site that can handle this.... Just make the extended rom run this first before everything else.
OR
Just hard reset, bypass extended rom install, unlock/unhide extended ROM and then click on the files one at a time
Hi Guys,
New here , so please forgive all stupidity....
I've got the new jasjar rom, about to flash my Orange SPV M5000, I'm currently running it without the orange customization, ie, i hard reset, reloaded the rom, then soft reset to avoid orange rubbish being, loaded, then manually reset the gprs etc,
If i flash the jasjar, will i get the same situation, but a quicker phone?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
James
Er....why did no-one mention that after installing the i-Mate ROM the phone then asks which operator you're with and then sets itself up accordingly?
:shock:
Im an M5000 owner too that was wondering about flashing to the imate rom...
Im after the microsoft direct push client thats on the new imate rom.
OK, plucked up the courage to upgrade to the jasjar rom, but I get a country ID error message,
Any ideas?
James.
Did you put the PPC in bootloader mode first?
Did you use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe?
No, where do i get that from?
i just ran the jasjar rom exe....
Any ideas now?
J.
Extract all the files from the Jasjar .exe file to one folder with WinZip.
Replace "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" with "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" - you'll find it below.
Disconnect your phone from the USB cable.
Press and hold LIGHT + POWER + RESET until the screen goes white and it says "serial" at the top.
Plug in the USB cable. "Serial" will change to USB.
Double-click on "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" - the PC and phone will do the rest.
If you get a country error, just repeat the process.
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where can I download the imate extended rom and the orange extended rom?
thanks for that, i've opened with Win Rar and got two folders OutputFile and RUU_Tools.
Sound right?
Then I drop the maupgrade app into RUU/Universal/WWE?
All good?
Thanks,
J.
Also, if i run the ma upgrade , nothing happens.....get the run dialog, then nothing.........
Ideas?
Ta,
J.
quietmoney said:
Also, if i run the ma upgrade , nothing happens.....get the run dialog, then nothing.........
Ideas?
Ta,
J.
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Copy everything from the 2 folders into one folder then run the maupgrade from there.
Rememebr to be in bootloader mode before running MAUPGRADE and remove the SD card before upgrading
Please help me
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.
Can I get it back?
Re: Please help me
pjfdias said:
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.
Can I get it back?
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Did you backup to your PC the Orange ExtendedROM? The Settings customizations were there.
If not try the XDA DEV FTP site. THey have extendedROM's there for download. Don't know if they have Orange ROM but just download it then put in SD card and run the appropriate CAB file.
Check the wiki of xda dev for instructions on how to connect to FTP site

How to restore extended ROM backed up with aWizard?

I used aWizard to backup the ROM of my Wizard Model 100 (Vodafone VPA compact II). After playing around with another ROM, I now want to go back to the original Vodafone ROM. Using aWizard again, I was able to restore the main ROM into the device, but it seems like it did not restore the extended ROM. The main ROM is working normally, but the Vodafone customizations didn't start after hard reset. I unlocked the extended ROM and can now see that it contains no files. Unfortunately, it is also write protected, so I cannot copy the extended ROM files manually.
How can I get the extended ROM files back into the device? I know that I could simply copy the files somewhere else and run it manually, but I'd like to restore the original state.
From my research, it seems to be a specific problem about the VPA compact II that even if you can unlock (i.e. "make visible") the extended ROM, it will still remain write protected...
Just think.
Maybe you should firstly refresh your rom with an older version like 1.5.x.x or sth. that would make the ext-rom visable & rewritable. than after you copy all that .cab files as you need, use aWizard to just upload the newer rom (at this case should be 2.17.x.x).
Never try this, if succeed pls let me know... :wink:
yeah this works this is what i have done to change the splash screen several times...on several units as well.....

better to backup with 1.8 ROM or 2.26 ROM??

Hey all, i just got a tmo mda... im rather newb but learning. i just installed to 2.26 rom and i want to backup the rom before flashing to new stuff. would it better to revert back to the 1.8 rom the mda came with and back that up (and how por favor), or just do a hard reset and back up the 2.26 rom.
thanks in advance yall 8)
newb needs help
If you've installed your 2.26 rom then you've got your backup already on your desktop (the RUU-file).
Your ppc will reboot with installed 2.26 rom after hard reset and there is no 1.8 anymore. If you want it back you've got to download it!
If you install new programs it won't be installed in the rom but in another part of your memory.
The rom is a closed part with i.e. wm5 embedded.
If you want to know what's in there, you've got to use i.e. "total commander" and watch for the IC-icons in windows.
Then there's also the extended rom. Herein you find the operater files i.e. T-mobile-plugins like background picture, sounds and several network settings. These you can find by fill-in the directory command line (in total commander) 'extended_rom'. These files also will be installed automatically after hard reset.
You can overrule these installation by pressing soft reset (after screen alignment) while installing after hard reset, but as a newbe better to stay off that path for now.
Suc6
yes well, thats all well and good. im not that noobish lol
my question is whether its better to back up the tmo 1.8 ROM which came with the wizard, or to back up the 2.26 ROM which i upgraded to onto a 128mb minisd card?
or is this a moot point?

how to install the extended rom?

i flashed explode 6.1 rom, and after HR the extended rom wasn't installed and i got a very thin rom.
what is the correct method to reinstall the rom + extended rom from sd card?
p.s - i solved the problem.
Ummmm ...... !
yair12 said:
i flashed explode 6.1 rom, and after HR the extended rom wasn't installed and i got a very thin rom.
what is the correct method to reinstall the rom + extended rom from sd card?
p.s - i solved the problem.
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What exactly do you mean by
... a very thin rom ...
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?
Do you mean that:
1) You haven't got all the programs installed?
or
2) You only have 40MB of 'STORAGE' ROM?
Answers:
1) You have to choose what programs / apps / etc. that you need - do a search for the EXTROM Kitchen on the XDA-Developers Wiki and choose the apps and utilities you want/need, then install any other software that you have.
or
2) You will need to flash back to WM2003 and unhide, then unlock the EXTROM on the BA (it can't be done on WM5,6) do a search, again, on the Wiki
Bird
when i reinstalled the rom i didn't copy the new file of the extended rom to the sd card and i used the one i installed the first rom with.
since it was my first reinstall i didn't notice that all the cab files from the original extended rom were delited automaticly after the installation. so i copied a fresh extended rom to sd and every thing was installed correctly.
if you want a thin install, install only the rom without the extended rom.
yair12 said:
when i reinstalled the rom i didn't copy the new file of the extended rom to the sd card and i used the one i installed the first rom with.
since it was my first reinstall i didn't notice that all the cab files from the original extended rom were delited automaticly after the installation. so i copied a fresh extended rom to sd and every thing was installed correctly.
if you want a thin install, install only the rom without the extended rom.
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Got it - yeah, I always just install the ROM; I read up on what's in the EXTROM first, then I take the bits that I want and add them to my own installs - It's why I like xplode's ROMs - usually very clean, and very few 'additional' software that you may/may not want to have installed.

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