Changing ROM from Orange to i-Mate - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

OK, I understand how to do it with either the NoID updater or with HTC64 - that's not the problem...
What I want to know is this: if I change the Orange ROM to the latest i-Mate ROM, what happens to all the Orange network settings? Will I lose them or will the update only affect OS-type things?
Alternatively, which files in the Orange ROM will I need to replace in the i-Mate ROM (if I cook up a ROM of my own) in order to get the speed of the i-Mate ROM with all the Orange settings?

madcapmagician said:
OK, I understand how to do it with either the NoID updater or with HTC64 - that's not the problem...
What I want to know is this: if I change the Orange ROM to the latest i-Mate ROM, what happens to all the Orange network settings? Will I lose them or will the update only affect OS-type things?
Alternatively, which files in the Orange ROM will I need to replace in the i-Mate ROM (if I cook up a ROM of my own) in order to get the speed of the i-Mate ROM with all the Orange settings?
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I guess it depends on which settings. If you are talking about mobile operator settings (like MMS, SMS, GPRS) then they are normally stored in a cab file in the extended ROM so all you have to do is copy the Orage extendedrom to your hard drive, flash the imate ROM, then install the appropriate cab file from the orange rom by copying it to the sd card and double clicking.
If you are talking about other settings (Wallpaper, splash screens, etc.) then this is ROM specific.
I may be wrong but I guess this is how it is.

It's just mobile operator settings I'm after.
I'm worried that once I install the i-Mate ROM I won't be able to use my phone. I know there's a long post that gives all the Orange settings but it just seems silly to have to enter them manually if there's a cab file that does it all for you, you know?
Thinking about it, could I install the i-Mate ROM then run the appropriate Orange cab file?

I believe that's what i said in my message :roll:
Hehe these settings are stored in your extendedROM. Do you know how to access ExtendedROM?
Give me a list of the files you have there.....I'm sure you can spot the operator settings. Or if you want, install Imate ROM then bypass it's extendedROM then install all orange CAB files that you transfered from ExtendedROM of orange to the PC.

Yes, I've already got the Extended ROM visible and writable.
This is the complete list of CAB files in the SPV M5000 Extended ROM:
CAB-Customization-OrangeUK-Universal-01-05-15Aug05.CAB
CAB-Shortcut-Orange-19Aug05.CAB
Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB
Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB
Signed_Orange_SuspendResume.sa.CAB
Signed_Orange_UAString.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Customize.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_HomeScreenReg.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_SoundSetting_USSDAlarm.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Version.sa.CAB
Signed_pIE_Fav.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_Shortcut_WWE.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_WLanMgr_Orange_Icon_WWE.sa.CAB
Signed_UNI_pIE_View_Set.sa.CAB
UI_Orange_UK_0727.cab
UNI_BrowserPerformance.sa.CAB
UNI_Orange_2G3G_icon.sa.CAB

How about this, try this:
1. Install Imate ROM
2. Unlock/Unhide ExtendedROM
3. Delete Imate ExtendedROM and copy everything from the Orange ExtendedROM
4. Hard Reset
This will install the orange extended ROM
Now if you get some trouble with security/signing, there is a cab file in the XDA DEV ftp site that can handle this.... Just make the extended rom run this first before everything else.
OR
Just hard reset, bypass extended rom install, unlock/unhide extended ROM and then click on the files one at a time

How about this, try this:
1. Install Imate ROM
2. Unlock/Unhide ExtendedROM
3. Delete Imate ExtendedROM and copy everything from the Orange ExtendedROM
4. Hard Reset
This will install the orange extended ROM
Now if you get some trouble with security/signing, there is a cab file in the XDA DEV ftp site that can handle this.... Just make the extended rom run this first before everything else.
OR
Just hard reset, bypass extended rom install, unlock/unhide extended ROM and then click on the files one at a time

Hi Guys,
New here , so please forgive all stupidity....
I've got the new jasjar rom, about to flash my Orange SPV M5000, I'm currently running it without the orange customization, ie, i hard reset, reloaded the rom, then soft reset to avoid orange rubbish being, loaded, then manually reset the gprs etc,
If i flash the jasjar, will i get the same situation, but a quicker phone?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
James

Er....why did no-one mention that after installing the i-Mate ROM the phone then asks which operator you're with and then sets itself up accordingly?
:shock:

Im an M5000 owner too that was wondering about flashing to the imate rom...
Im after the microsoft direct push client thats on the new imate rom.

OK, plucked up the courage to upgrade to the jasjar rom, but I get a country ID error message,
Any ideas?
James.

Did you put the PPC in bootloader mode first?
Did you use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe?

No, where do i get that from?
i just ran the jasjar rom exe....
Any ideas now?
J.

Extract all the files from the Jasjar .exe file to one folder with WinZip.
Replace "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" with "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" - you'll find it below.
Disconnect your phone from the USB cable.
Press and hold LIGHT + POWER + RESET until the screen goes white and it says "serial" at the top.
Plug in the USB cable. "Serial" will change to USB.
Double-click on "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" - the PC and phone will do the rest.
If you get a country error, just repeat the process.

download roms
where can I download the imate extended rom and the orange extended rom?

thanks for that, i've opened with Win Rar and got two folders OutputFile and RUU_Tools.
Sound right?
Then I drop the maupgrade app into RUU/Universal/WWE?
All good?
Thanks,
J.

Also, if i run the ma upgrade , nothing happens.....get the run dialog, then nothing.........
Ideas?
Ta,
J.

quietmoney said:
Also, if i run the ma upgrade , nothing happens.....get the run dialog, then nothing.........
Ideas?
Ta,
J.
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Copy everything from the 2 folders into one folder then run the maupgrade from there.
Rememebr to be in bootloader mode before running MAUPGRADE and remove the SD card before upgrading

Please help me
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.
Can I get it back?

Re: Please help me
pjfdias said:
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.
Can I get it back?
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Did you backup to your PC the Orange ExtendedROM? The Settings customizations were there.
If not try the XDA DEV FTP site. THey have extendedROM's there for download. Don't know if they have Orange ROM but just download it then put in SD card and run the appropriate CAB file.
Check the wiki of xda dev for instructions on how to connect to FTP site

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uk orange m1000 extended rom

hi guys
does any body have a uk m1000 extended rom
I could do with a copy of the UK Orange Extended Rom image as well. Can anyone help please
Has anyone succeeded in getting a copy of the Orange UK m1000 Extended ROM?
come on guys somebody must have it please
orange extended rom
Hi Guys
Can any body supply me with a extended rom from the the new uk orange rom...............PLEASE
I don't know if I can help, but if I can I'll happily do so.
I have an ORange SPV M1000, and have used the Extended Rom unlock tool (available in these forums to unlock my extended rom).
If what you are looking for is a copy of all the files in there, then let me know and I'll zip them and post them into this thread.
I have the latest version of the Orange Rom - but it is the one without the MMS capabilities (both are available for download from Orange's website)
Anyway if its any help let me know.
Cheers
hi siezear
that would be great--------cheers
copy of extended rom from Orange SPV M1000
As requested, please find attached the contents of the ORange Extended rom.
I have downloaded the ROM that includes the MMS capabilities from the website and tried using the Windows Mobile ROM editor (available from this forum) to edit its content - but the default passwords don't seem to work, if anyone knows what passwords to try for Orange ROMs, let me know and I'll post that version here too,
otherwise if I ever hard-reset by mistake then I'll install that into the PPC and use the extrom tools to unlock it and post it.
Cheers
With ER2003Edit you have to
1. Select the correct ROM type when opening the ROM file
2. Enter the correct password manually:
OS ROM
NK.nbf 0x20040304
Extended ROM
ms_.nbf 0x20040305
Radio ROM
radio_.nbf 0x20040306
Keep in mind that when you want to change an Extended ROM file to be able to use it during an upgrade procedure, you also need to update the checksum (using xda2nbftool)
Thanks edsub,
I have copied the files out of the extended rom - though the program gave numerous errors (Object variable or with block variable not set)
Here is the version of the Orange rom which includes the MMS.
Cheers all,

some rom questions

pls help me with some of my questions
i just upgraded my xda2 mini with a qtek 1.11.00wwe rom then i restored my device after the upgrade.
now for the question: if i hard reset my device will i still have the o2 stuffs or qtek stuffs???
then, if i had qtek stuffs, will i be able to remove them and put the o2 apps back????
thanks for any reply
I dont think the qtek rom will install on the mini unless extract update file and perform a few modificatins, however once you have done the update the device will have the qtek apps, if you want to have th o2 customisation you will need to perform a hard reset with the o2 ROM and then do a soft reset just after you have done the screen alignment. Next in file explorer just go to the extended ROM and make a copy of these files on your SD / pc, and once the qtek update is installed you can then readd those customisation files from the extended rom
rgds
jim
thanks for the reply
damn, i have already done the upgrade. now i am left without a internet setting for my carrier.
who is your carrier? I am sure we could find a cab file for them.
rgds
jim

Unlocking extended ROM

Really sorry - can someone point me in the direction of a tool that unlocks the extended ROM for a Wizard? I'ves searched but I can't find Am I being blind?
I need to free up some space and want to get rid of those imate .tsk files but need to unlock the ROM first.
Thanks
Mat
Try this one
Download this
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
Then type (after install)
“\Extended_Rom\”
and walla
Didi
...
Hi,
can somebody explain how i can delete the files in extended rom ? i tried with TC and the files seemed to be deleted, but after the hardreset they were still there.....I want to get rid of them and install some other programms too.
Thanks and regards
Joachim
...
Hi,
can somebody explain how i can delete the files in extended rom ? i tried with TC and the files seemed to be deleted, but after the hardreset they were still there.....I want to get rid of them and install some other programms too.
Thanks and regards
Joachim
Ok Total commander gives you access to the extended rom using the method just posted above.
But if you want to actually have the extended rom showing all time, then you need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33680&highlight=extended+rom
The extended rom unlocker will give the actual extended rom as space deginated extended_rom2 and its about 9.85mb size or something with between about 350kb and 2.5mb of .cab files in it depending on whether its a Qtek (Which has the least amount of files), I-mate, o2 or T-Mobile, these last two probably (along with Orange) will have the most 'junk in them.
Once you have ran the exteneded rom unlocker and soft reset your device it will be accesible through file explorer you won't need TC.
You can then go in and delete (be careful to make sure what everything does first) its your own responsibility, and remove what you don't need.
For example on the I-mate Extended Rom you cane remove Backgammon, Skype and the anti virus prog. There wasn't much on the Qtek Rom I just put on mine just clearvue and soemthing else inconsequential, there was no skype or antivirus, but I believe some Qtek roms might have this.
T-Mobile is abother story, there is a shedload of crap in the extended rom, ranging from a today screen toolbar to small progs, there is list knocking about of what each file does. When I changed from T-Mob to I-mate and then Qtek I just transferred the T-Mobile GPRS settings and the GPRS disconnect button .cab and put them in the exteneded Rom myself and let it run.
Also on I-mate Rom there are carrier settings that you can delete which won't apply to you, basically lots fo countries phone settings, like o2 UK, T-Mobile Spain etc etc, depending on where you are in the world.
You can't delete the I-mate .tsk todayscreens as far as I know, they are not in the ExtRom. The Qtek ExtROm doesn't have the extra .tsk's just default and the Guava Bubbles one.
If anyone wants the T-Mobile GPRS .cab and GPRS disconnect button .cab I can send it through msn or email.
that doesn't work either. I treid with the unlocker and deleted the files with TC. If i check the content no files are there, but when i try to copy other files to the ext. Rom it says that the volume is write protected. I softreseted several times also.
Any hint on that ? How have all the others deleted the files in extended rom ?
Regards
Joachim
batman08 said:
that doesn't work either. I treid with the unlocker and deleted the files with TC. If i check the content no files are there, but when i try to copy other files to the ext. Rom it says that the volume is write protected. I softreseted several times also.
Any hint on that ? How have all the others deleted the files in extended rom ?
Regards
Joachim
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Might not work for you but it worked for me and a load of others. Once the extended rom is visible you can delete files easily, you don't need TC like I said. Its easier to put additional cabs into my documents sync them across and just run them.
Yeah, that's a pitty.... I have the Vodafone VPA Compact II, which is the Wizard 100 afaik.
Someone around here has the same model and succeeded in removing the cabs from the extended rom ?

Upgrading Orange SPV M500

Hi All,
I'm a bit of a newbie to this. I want to upgrade the ROM/ Extended ROM on my SPV M500 the current ROM version is:
Operator Version 6.06.1.175
ROM Version 1.06.00 WWE
ROM Date 01/06/2005
Radio Version 1.05.10
Extended ROM Version 1.06.175
I have found this on the Orange website: http://www.orange.ch/vrtmobilephones/offers/orangePhones/guidesLinks?ts=1137101642566
Is this the best one? I have seen on this forum some information about the Big Storage ROM. I hoped for a WM5 ROM but from what i have read this is not likely for the Magician.
If someone could give me guidance on what ROM to use and if there is an Idiots Guide/ How-To Guide on how to upgrade the ROM i would be very greatful.
Also, do i need to unlock my device? If so how do i do this and what tools do i need?
Regards
Barry
Idiot are your words, but a noob guide is here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade
The latest rom available is a 1.13WWE from T-Mobile. You'll loose all the Orange branding when you take that one. Explore the wiki for more info on backing up an existing rom & available roms etc.
M
Thanks for the advice.
When updating the ROM do I need to update the Radio and the Extended ROM?
OLTP - What is the A2DP BT Patch?
Barry,
A shipped-rom will always update the CE image (OS part & specific HTC drivers), the EXT_ROM (branding from the provider) & the Radio (phone, BT & IR) in one go. In your case make a copy from all your Orange cab-files in your ext-rom before upgrading with a non-Orange shipped-rom. You'll loose all your Orange settings etc in the upgrade process! To prevent the ext-rom from executing perform a soft-reset just after the init process from a hard-reset is finished. You got a few seconds for this before the popup with 'customizing' starts. Now the ext-rom is visible (not writeable) & you can back it up.
The A2DP patch http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532&highlight=magician+stock+bt
allows you to stream stereo music to a stereo BT headset.
Cheers, M
OLTP,
Thanks for that. This may be a silly question but updating to a T-Mobile ROM won't affect my Orange SIM Card will it?
I have taken a look at the how to guide that you pointed me at, can you only backup the ROM to an SD card or can you back it up direct to the desktop? Im thinking not.
Hi,
Backup is fairly simple:
- get ntrw.exe from the ftp
- get romupdate http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=7510- get a SD-card > 64MB
- make backup of everything you want to keep from your magician & SD-card. everything will be wiped!!
- fully charge your magician
- uncheck usb connection in Act.sync on your PC
- put your magician in Bootloader (camera & power & soft-reset at the same time for a few seconds) wait till screen fades & reads 'serial v1.0x'. Screen is very dark since backlight is of.
- connect usb, now the screen reads 'usb v1.0x'
- start romupgrade on your pc
- pick the magician connection in the listbox, wces something I belief
- now a screen pops up
- type d2s in this screen
- follow progress on pc & magician
- wait till checksum finishes
- get SD from the magician & put it into a cardreader. DON'T FORMAT!!!
- put ntrw in C:\
- start a command window
- type on commandline: ntrw read myrom.nb1 [sd driveletter]:
- follow progress
- error at the end is normal
- finished
- reset your device & restore backup
A TMO rom won't affect your sim, the lock is somewhere else. There's a strange tool on the ftp, run it on your device & the lock is gone, veeeery strange ;-) But your warrenty might be gone as well, doing that it's all up to you.
M
Regards, M
Thanks for that OLTP.
I have another couple of questions if that is ok. In the Orange branded ROM, there are various applications like. Pocket Word and Excel, GPRS Monitor and Clearview Sutie. Do these come in the T-Mob ROM?
Also one of my biggest bugbears with the Orange ROM is the use of the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack. Does the T-Mobile ROM also use this?
Another nice to have if any can help is would some one be able to post some screen dumps of the T-Mobile interface please.
Barry,
when you make a backup of your ext-rom, you can install those cab-files again after the update. Word&Excel are in the OS-rom, gprs & clearvue are from Orange! & not included by TMO in the rom, but on CD. TMO will give you some white background with PINK accents by default on your today & dialpad. That's about it.
BT? again the M$ version. No great differnce to be expected in that.
If you ever decide to go for BS then you need the ext-rom copy as well & in your case I advice you very strong to have one.
Regards, m
OLTP,
Sorry to be a pain but i'm having one of those days and my brain is not working very well today. Would you explain the below????
If you ever decide to go for BS then you need the ext-rom copy as well & in your case I advice you very strong to have one
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Thanks again for all you help
Barry
Barry,
It's very simple, as usual: the ext-rom on your magician contains all kind of Orange stuff. When you flash a T-Mobile rom you get an ext-rom with TMO stuff, including gprs settings you definitely don't want. All Orange stuff in the rom is lost. That's why you need to backup the ext-rom.
When you ever apply BIG Storage you append the ext-rom to your current internal storage folder, increasing it by around 19MB. The ext-rom then no longer exists & all Orange or whatever stuff is in there is lost. So if you want some of the Orange stuff preserved make a backup, before you perform any rom-flashing.
Btw @ the wiki there's also the magician rom lay-out interesting to read at least once.
Regards, M

02 xda exec upgrade to imate

I want to upgrade my 02 rom to the imate rom
which imate rom supports the aku2 patch, as o2 dont know when there going to release this support.
this is also my question, is it possible to use Imate Jasjar ROM for O2 Exec, and where i can get it , then i can use O2 software on new ROM ? Thank you.
YES!
I upgraded my O2 Exec to the new i-mate ROM and man.. it's like owning a completely different machine.
plenty of memory left ( i guess memory leaks were mostly fixed)
dazzling speed.
machine doesn't get stuck several times a day.
I am happy.
You have the official ROM. Search through it, I don't know in which thread I saw it, but the filename is: JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip
You should be able find it here using the search button.
Then you need to use a tool called maupgradeut_noid_645.exe
Also available here. It will allow to install the JASJAR ROM on O2 Exec. But I think your warrenty will voice.. unless you revert back to the O2 ROM which is downloadable from my-xda.com
MOBILER
Sorry again, i have this question, my XDA Exec is unlocked by deffault, after updated with the Imate ROM, is my Exec still unlocked ? Thank you.
yes your exec will still be unlocked. I have an exec with a Orange simcard and the latest imate rom. No problems.
hi,i have a xda exec from 02,i want to upgrade to a imate rom.where i can download this rom?,how can i read a manual to upgrade this rom?
thanks
ccoyote51 said:
hi,i have a xda exec from 02,i want to upgrade to a imate rom.where i can download this rom?,how can i read a manual to upgrade this rom?
thanks
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From the link under i-mate in the wiki page for universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Upgrades
go to ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/
Get the file JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip. About 64Mb. Unzip the file twice & you will get the readme.doc file for the instruction.
Any idea where i can find maupgradeut_noid_645.exe? Tried search and tried the ftp, no luck.
doody said:
Any idea where i can find maupgradeut_noid_645.exe? Tried search and tried the ftp, no luck.
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I think I used this version when I upgraded O2 XDA Exec to JASJAR rom. Didn't run into any problems
Thanks for your replies and PMs, i-Mate rom is now installed
Also got fed up with waiting for O2 update and tonight loaded the imate rom and push email is working nicely . I will try and post some instructions tomorrow if I get chance.
what should be the final specs
mine are ROM 1.13.82 WWE
rom date 11/30/05
radio 1.09.00
protocol 42.42.P8
Ext ROM 1.13.188 WWE
ihave downloaded imate JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship should I update with this my O2 EXEC
Please advise
Here is the process as promised. There isnt too much too it so hopefully you will be able to understand my ramblings.
You need the Imate JASJAR rom file which I downloaded from
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Universal/Shipped_Complete_Updates/
The file that you need is JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.zip.
First thing to do is to extract the files in the exe. There are two ways you could do this.
You can do this by running the exe file this will extract the files into a temporary directory in your profile.. for example c:\documents and settings\username\Local Settings\Temp, look for a very recently created directory in there, don’t ok the error message that you get when you run the exe as it will delete the temporary files. Just copy the files out of the temp directory somewhere else.
OR
You can use winrar to extract the files from the exe. Extract all the files into a single flat directory. Remove all directory structures so that you are left with just one directory containing all the files. (didnt try this way but I presume it will work)
Then download this file
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip
Extract the .exe in there to the same directory containing all your other files.
Then you need to make a small change to one of the text files. Look in the directory for
RUU.conf
Open it in notepad and add this line
[CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1
then save it
That’s about it…..
Usual wavers at this point.. upgrading flash may lead to dead device.. do so at your own risk… invalidate warranty…etc etc
Once you have plucked up the courage connect your device up to Active sync and run the exe file that was contained in the MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip file that you downloaded.
It seemed to take around 30 mins for the whole update process.
Im just going through adding my applications again and setting up the Vodafone GPRS configuration but so far seems fine and push email works nice and fast so I am pleased I have made the change.
Hi jwarbutron,
Thanks for the walkthrough, Im following your instructions and have now started the upgrade.
I got past the screen where it tells me my current version numbers and what the new versions will be. I said OK, go for it, and now its displaying the 'Checking the information on your device .. please wait ..' screen, I presume I just wait for 30 mins or so and the upgrade is complete? There isn't a progress bar or another screen Im supposed to see?
Cheers
Nas
hanks jwarbutron,
Your procedure works like a charm Thanks once again . Pl let me know how to get original #D phone pad interface
Unfortunately it didn't work for me, I left my phone plugged in for about 4 hours, it still just displayed the checking page, and now my phone wont start. Switching it on, I see some text in portrait mode saying usb at the top, and v1.00 at the bottom.
I'll dig around this forum to see if I can find a solution.
Nas
Third attempt looks to be good though! Got the progress bar, upgrading now... :lol:
Nas
Just updated last night, and good grief the imate ROM is so much better.
Its much smoother, quicker and generally a much more pleasant experience.
Very much recommended to anyone who who has the Exec.
Cheers
Rich
Well, my upgrade completed, but I still get the portrait page with USB at the top and v1.00 at the bottom. The upgrade said it had completed successfully, is there a step I have missed?
Cheers
Nas
Im starting the upgrade again to see if I missed anything, I have the screen with the progress bar, so I know its doing *something*.
While its going, any ideas what I might of missed?
Thanks
Nas

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