Cannot Change Trinity SIP (Input Panel) - P3600 General

I am hoping that someone here will be able to solve my problem:
I have an Orange SPVM700 (Trinity) WM5 with the original Orange Rom. The first thing I did when I got this device was install the HTC Phone Pad SIP. After a number of painful trial and error attempts I was able to use this SIP by using G4 SIP by setting Phone Pad as the default SIP in the G4 SIP control panel, and also within the G4 sip start-up application..
However, try as I might, I can not use any other SIP application, such as PCM Keyboard (v0.2), Teksoft Finger Keyboard, TenGo, RescoKeyboard, etc.).
Anytime I try to activate one of these alternative SIPs, my Trinity displays whatever the default SIP is set to (as set in G4 SIP control panel app). I can either set the default to "Keyboard" or "PhonePad". If I set any other SIP as default (in the system control Panel), I get a White Screen of death and a Hard Reset.
Does anyone have any experience of using an alternative SIP (other than WM Standard SIPs or PhonePad) with an Orange M700 Trinity?

Glad i am not the only one having this issue, i have tried and failed to get any alternative SIP working,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322108. Post #5
Any advice would be welcome, i have tried soft resets after changing the SIP in the messaging client, soft resets after changing via the Start - settings - Input route and all to no avail.

O.K. Finally managed to work out a solution to this problem......upgrade to WM6.
I installed AX3L's Rom - AX3L_WM6_WWE_v2.0.8.2 and every thing is now great. I can use any SIP I like, the Trinity runs much faster, and the new radio performs better. I recommend you follow this route.
Also, if you need to roll back to WM5, there is a version of the Orange M700 rom kicking around for you to restore to should you need to return or anything.

For those that don't/can't go to WM6 here is a link to a working solution for WM5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1444312&posted=1#post1444312

Another victim of "not enough driver memory" problem. It has been answered before.
You may want to try remove unneeded startup drivers/services/autorun and/or kill some running stuff in the background (READ: cprog.exe). That might solve your problems.
Yes, upgrade to WM6 may work too, since it is better in managing driver memory.

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HELP -- lost my virtual keyboard

Have had a series of problems over the past two days, seemingly the result of Resco Keyboard Pro which apparently has some issues with the Hermes platform(?), at least from some other threads on the subject.
Ended up bricking my TyTN (using Imate ROM/ExtROM) -- even hard resets would not restore it. So I had to reflash it. Decided to use the latest Cingular ROM (1.34) with most of the HTC TyTN ExtROM (but I also installed much of the Cingular ExtROM). Then tediously reinstalled my software (except for Resco Keyboard).
Seemed to work OK at first but now I've lost control of my SIP -- had it set to Keyboard but that no longer appears in the bottom tray -- when I open a program it flashes a moment or two so I know it's supposed to be there but I can't access it. So now I have no virtual means of input, which I rely on.
DISCOVERED SOURCE OF PROBLEM: Pocket Breeze has option that allows "show" or "hide" SIP and I'd apparently set this to "HIDE". That solves fundamental problem but not the issue with Resco Keyboard Pro -- it still will not work even when selected.
Thanks!

New TyTN user... some questions

Hello,
I'm a new TyTN user; my PDA history: Psion 5mx (+ Siemens S35i as IR modem), Nokia 6260 (somewhat limited, not as suited for input, but ok for recalling/reading stuff).
Main intended use is mail reading / 3G internet access and flight navigation (using PocketFMS + a Holux GPSlim 236).
I got the TyTN on Friday, but returned it on Saturday due to some issues with the keyboard (some keys didn't respond consistently: a, e, p, r, t, space, del, ...).
Anyway, I managed to play around with it an evening, and have some questions (some I found in the faq).
1. Where does the device get its bluetooth name? Mine didn't not use the device name (which by default is PocketPC), but used my full name (I'm guessing from owner info). I noticed in the FAQ there is a registry hack to set the bluetooth name, but can this be done "the normal way"?
2a. Is it possible to change the order of the programs in "Start > Programs"? Currently, they are listed alphabetically with folders first, but I would like the ones I use most often to appear on top, as to minimize scrolling.
2b. I noticed it is possible to move programs to a new subfolder in programs, but it gives a warning that this might cause some programs not to run properly. Is it known which programs don't like being moved (or when the issues occur)?
3. Cleartype only seems work in portrait mode. In the FAQ there is a registry hack; is Cleartype useable on the TyTN in landscape mode?
4. I'm using a number of mail accounts, but also a number of access points (wifi at work, 3G outside of work, ...). In the mail application, the SMTP server is linked to a mail account. However, if I want to use the same mail account using different access points, there should be an easy way to change the SMTP server. On my Nokia 6260, I created dummy accounts (for each SMTP server I needed), and changed the account by which a mail is sent (this is a property of the mail on Symbian). Can I do this on the TyTN? Are there perhaps better tools to achieve this (change it automatically with an access point, ...)?
5. I got the English version (I prefer my softwares in English ). The downside to this is that in text entry, it only suggests words for the English language. Is it possible to add a second language (just for text entry, not in the user interface), in my case Dutch, to the device? I noticed there are dictionary managers that allow one to edit the user dictionary, so perhaps there are users that converted/created one to contain many Dutch words...?
6. I'm considering the Nokia HS-12w (bluetooth stereo headset with lcd display). How is the audio quality for this headset (in audio and calls) in combination with the TyTN? I mailed JetWare regarding their mobile extension, and they say they have an issue with their latest release (doesn't display caller name, unlike the last beta), but this will be solved. They also said "the TyTn does not allow us to route audio over the Hands-free Profile connection to support voice dialing from the HS-12W (or any other hands-free device)". Are there workarounds for this?
Finally, are there applications you can recommend that no wm5 device should be without (I found HTC X-button and MagicButton on this site)?
Or wm5 applications I certainly should not try?
Thanks!
(both for reading through this long first posting, as well as for answers you could provide)
Jörg
I could provide you links to numerous forum threads answering your questions. But why won't you bother to search and read before ask? Don't you understand that multiple questions about the same just make the forum less useful?
Hello,
Yes, I understand that and have searched prior to posting (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to refer to the faq, or wouldn't have found MagicButton).
Granted, some of my questions were partly answered (I referred to related faqs), or are things I can test.
But I found nothing regarding my guestions 2 (program order), 4 (SMTP changing) and 5 (dictionaries for other languages).
Jörg
One way I can think of solving 2 would be a create a new menu (Using WM5NewMenu) that has your most used programs and then tying it to a hardware button or softkey .. dont know if that will work for you or not ..
gravejoker said:
One way I can think of solving 2 would be a create a new menu (Using WM5NewMenu) that has your most used programs and then tying it to a hardware button or softkey .. dont know if that will work for you or not ..
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Sounds like it might be a nice workaround...
Thanks!
Jörg

Default Keyboard

I've got Resco Keyboard, but its don't automatically comes up when I need it
its there a hack or software that will delete the keyboard that comes with the phone or set the Resco as default
I was looking for the same thing...I would love to have Reco keyboard as default
--Alex76
Search for SIPCHANGE.
It'll do what you need!
Sipchange
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Includes download
Mike
it worked
thanks so much mike
by the way what is SIP and what is SPL
i've seen this Hard SPL on the forum and I cant for live of me figure out what the hell it is
SIP can be:
An application-layer control protocol, a Signaling protocol for Internet Telephony. SIP can establish sessions for features such as audio/videoconferencing, interactive gaming, and call forwarding to be deployed over IP networks thus enabling service providers to integrate basic IP telephony services with Web, e-mail, and chat services.
Or in our case:
Soft Input Panel - software keyboard
And SPL - Secondary Program Loader is one of two bootloaders in our devices, second being IPL - Initial Program Loader
Radio has a bootloader too - HTC_boot.
rickyjune said:
thanks so much mike
by the way what is SIP and what is SPL
i've seen this Hard SPL on the forum and I cant for live of me figure out what the hell it is
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The SIP is the Soft Input Panel i.e. the soft on screen keyboard that as you know can be customised and changed from keys to transciber etc etc.
The Central Processing Unit (CPU) loads the IPL Initial Programme Loader that in turn loads the SPL or Secondary Programme Loader. The SPLs main but not only function is to load the Tertiary Programme Loader TPL that de-compresses the ROM into RAM. From there the device can now be booted.
(So of great interest to the ROM Gurus and something of a mystery to the rest of us!!)
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
EDIT: Just saw that while I was typing so was Karhu - Glad we both said the same thing Wheeew....
Mike

Slow Changing of Input Method?

Guys, I have a question.
I used to have an iPaq 6300 running WiMo 2003, when selecting input methods there is an arrow beside the input method you click on to bring up the menu that lets you choose between Keyboard, Block Recognizer, Transcriber or Letter Recognizer. This was instantaneous! The moment you press the arrow, the menu pops up and you can switch input methods instantly.
On my new Atom Exec though this is not the case. You have to press the input method icon first, which brings up the arrow, then click on the arrow, then wait like a minute before the menu pops up. What gives? Is this really how all WiMo5 devices work? Is this a problem with WiMo5 or with the Atom Exec in particular?
It is annoying because it makes it harder to switch between input methods. Could someone tell me the score on this?
Thanks,
My bad, I fiddled around with the Atom a bit more and fixed the problem by doing a Hard Reset. Now I set the PPC back up to how I like it and it's working flawlessly.
Hmm after some time the problem seems to be back. It looks like the phone bogs down with stuff after a while, causing this problem. I don't feel like reformatting, does anyone have a fix, or a program that cleans up and optimizes your PPC?
this is an issue of WM5.
It also happens to WM6. The more applications you installed, the slower it will get (not sure what kind of application though). Well, Atom Life has 1GB of ROM. Of course people will start installing a lot of applications.
Anyway, I read somewhere in the forum stating that if you have more than 10 today plugin installed, the SIP will take a some time to appear. The plugins don't necessary be active. I mean, the ones not active are also counted. I have not confirmed this yet though.
I have more than 40 programs installed in my atom. It didn't slow down that much (only 5 to 10%) but what I usually do is to backup everything first before I install anything. At the first sign of speed reduction or bugs, I just do a restore. I have more than 15 today plug-ins both active and inactive. However, one thing I noticed is that it is better if you install your non-essentials to your sd card. It doesn't matter if you do a hard reset, they will still be there and if you use a tray launcher or clauncher, you can configure the icons to reappear even if you do not re-install them. This way, you reduce the clutter in your main memory and at the same time save you the trouble of re-installing. The reconfiguration of the executable icon will take some time but it is still faster than re-installing 30+ programs. It is important though to maintain a storage of no less than 17MB. Once you go below this, you will really see the reduction in speed and will be pissed off with your PPC. By the way, do not use Opera or any modified IE (tab browsing and downloading. by the way, Opera is good with downloading but sucks in handling your PPC's memory) while doing something else with your PPC. It will really really slow down your PPC.
i posted this same thread sometime ago, but there was no solution. At last i discover the culprit. I see the difference in speed when i install Embedded Windows VB Runtimes. regardless whether i install it in the memory card or the main memory.
Got this info from another site, it really works.
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make WM5 SIP faster (加快輸入法) (not a joke)
X51V ENG A12 + Ce-Star 2.8R2A + Monster SIP + MS IME for JAP works well.
But I am not very sure "every WM5 PPC" works well, too.
After installing a lot of softwares, WM5 SIP becomes slow.
You can make it fast again.
1. install resco explorer 5.42 and resco registry at \Device
2. use resco registry to export the registry of
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID
to a file (like CLSID.reg) at PPC, or SD, or CF
donnot edit or modify CLSID.reg
3. use resco registry to delete CLSID
4. use resco explorer to execute CLSID.reg to import the registry CLSID back
5. turn off PPC, soft reset
It is amazing like magic.
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Weird... it really works. Everything back to normal. Menu is displayed instantly after tapping on the list button.
I'm using Atom Life WM6, so this mean that it also works for WM6.
Urk Double Post
Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
I have no perceptible slowdown on the Exec other than the input method switching. I just need to fix that!
My main memory is about 85% free (83.6MB) and yes I do install all the non-essentials to the SD card.
MightyOx I'll try your method hopefully this fixes this issue. While "upgrading" to WM5 I thought it would be a completely better experience, but I'm finding WM5 has issues and that quite a few things were done better in WM2K3 (like the SIP switching speed) or how about creating a new SMS message in WM2K3 you only needed 2 taps here in WM5 you need 3. *roll eyes* sometimes I wonder what developers are thinking when they take steps backwards like this.
On the other hand I love being able to rotate the screen, and Voice Command 1.6 was totally worth it.
Mochan said:
Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
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It's not O2's software. It just happen to be the next software you've installed before the problem show itself. It can be any software. As I said in my previous post, it will happen after you've installed a certain number of software. I think it is WM5 and WM6 related.
Anyway, the workaround is already posted. So, I have no more complain about this problem.
Yeah, looks like it's not. I tried Mightyox's method, THANK YOU SIR my Atom is running fine again. It's like once you pile over some registry entries over the CLSID directory, it takes time to get it. So the solution is to delete the registry key and "re-enter" it so it goes back on top. Very strange but if it works then more power.
Tried it on my flame...Wow...works like a charm

WM6 Typhoon bugs and issues

It would be may be good to create a list of known bugs and other problems with the WM6 ROM for Typhoon. Please post here if you know about some bugs or strange behaviour.
I have been using this rom since yesterday and after few restarts, the phone remains stuck for about 3 minutes in the "mobile operator" screen during start up. Eventualy it asks for pin code, but after typing in, the time, operator and appointments information is missing in the home screen. I have flashed WM6 once again, but this phenomenon occurred again after application unlock and installation of basic software (xbar 2.5, pocket controller, Binaries smart explorer, auto keylock, smart time sync) + few restarts. Now I am searching for the reason if this is caused by some registry entry or by an incompatible software installed...At present I removed all the software but problem still present. Ready to make registry clean or hard reset...
lot of software incompability, mostly games,
-bug tcmp looks like the same most games have; there is sound but the screen will freeze in a few seconds (sound continues )
..tried to add T9 language according to instructions described at Ronswens pages for WM5. During writing sms I can choose the new language, but after choosing it only beep occurs when pressing a key. I suppose there should be changed also some another key in registry...do we have some experiences already with the T9 languages on this WM6 rom?
Netopjer said:
I have been using this rom since yesterday and after few restarts, the phone remains stuck for about 3 minutes in the "mobile operator" screen during start up. Eventualy it asks for pin code, but after typing in, the time, operator and appointments information is missing in the home screen. I have flashed WM6 once again, but this phenomenon occurred again after application unlock and installation of basic software (xbar 2.5, pocket controller, Binaries smart explorer, auto keylock, smart time sync) + few restarts. Now I am searching for the reason if this is caused by some registry entry or by an incompatible software installed...At present I removed all the software but problem still present. Ready to make registry clean or hard reset...
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I have this problem too and I back to wm2k3
r0c0 said:
lot of software incompability, mostly games,
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I have found the decision:
1)
We open "exe" a file with game in any HEX-editor, we find gx.dll and it is replaced on g0.dll
We clean the signature from a file by means of SignRemv and it is done new by means of Signed tool
To place the changed file back, and a file g0.dll to place in folder Windows
or 2) To replace a file gx.dll in folder Windows, in any a file-manager to put "read only" and restart (there can be problems with other programs)
As example Bustem
PS: forgive for my bad English
Netopjer said:
I have been using this rom since yesterday and after few restarts, the phone remains stuck for about 3 minutes in the "mobile operator" screen during start up. Eventualy it asks for pin code, but after typing in, the time, operator and appointments information is missing in the home screen. I have flashed WM6 once again, but this phenomenon occurred again after application unlock and installation of basic software (xbar 2.5, pocket controller, Binaries smart explorer, auto keylock, smart time sync) + few restarts. Now I am searching for the reason if this is caused by some registry entry or by an incompatible software installed...At present I removed all the software but problem still present. Ready to make registry clean or hard reset...
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how do you make application unlock on wm6 ?
Java
is there Java support with this WM6 ROM? I can't seem to find it. Very useful for Opera Mini and Gmail standalone app.
sebip said:
how do you make application unlock on wm6 ?
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Use regeditSTG2.exe to modify the following phone registry keys:
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies0001001 = 1 (that will enable the rapi_config, 1 means full access to rapi config, 2 means user controlled access)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies0001005 = 40 (that disallows the check for security cirtificate etc)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies0001017 = 144
Run SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe from the PC with the phone connected via ActiveSync. This will unlock the phone.
Disconnect and switch the phone off then back on again.
Hi,
I can't use voice talk (via handset bluetooth) before in wm2k3 and wm5 i have the fonction to add voice command with contact, but now no.
It is normal ?
Thx.
...I also revealed interresting behaviour when you are trying to connect to internet via GPRS. There sometimes occurrs error message that it couldnt be established GPRS connection because of missing GPRS coverage. (the "G" is also missing in homescren icon bar). But I am sure there is no GPRS coverage problem in my location.
So in this case you have to go into the phone settings and choose your network again. Afterwards when you are re-registerd in your network, the symbol G is present in iconbar and you can run the GPRS connection. Sometimes prolongomenous procedure...
I had pretty much the same thing as a few of the others.
Xphone11
WM5 - WM6
It flashed all ok, the phone booted all good and worked fine - but then after around 15 min of running, reciving one call and 3 failed attempts at sycning it died.
Well - actually, I re-booted it for something and it never came right after that.
These are the issues which appeared;
Contacts wouldn't open (yet the proccess was fired),
Calendar threw a 'missing file' error,
Start menu wouldn't work (no response from the button),
GPRS service was dropped ("no service available" - even though there was and the phone could see it if you seeked for it),
Yet the phone recived text messages while in this state and while calling the phone it just wouldn't do anything - yet to the caller it would appear to just ring and ring (not a provided service).
An interesting thing - I found that by making a change to the home screen or theme would allow the start menu too function as it should and the the clock to be displayed on the home screen.
Could be an area worth investigating....
I've had a taste now.... I want WM6!!!
What can I do to help?
...it also would be interresting to know whether there is a possibility to run the USB modem - I couldnt find it in start menu/accesories nor in the windows folder...
How to install for QTEK 8020 (T-Mobile SDA) joystick? please help... fuctional joystick in WM06 (my english low sorry)... right is up, left is down and left not functional and right... ???
///... please delete topic... ///
I am also wondering why nobody who is capable enough tries to make a "joystick-version" of the Typhoon WM6 - that work would be highly appreciated by so many people...
DoctorT said:
I am also wondering why nobody who is capable enough tries to make a "joystick-version" of the Typhoon WM6 - that work would be highly appreciated by so many people...
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Because WM6 for Typhoon Error on Dumprom.
WM6 looks fantastic, however...
I also have a few disappointments the most important of which are:
- No "Headset" option in the profiles menu!!!
- No STK menu!!!
- Very easily crashing on games and some progs (hope to fix it as stated above)
and the camera is definately worse than in 2003SE
..various language t9 cab files - I tried it and it works fine on WM6
http://melgurth.ovh.org/
do anyone try the standard calculator in wm6 ? It show error in my c500 so I have to use other calculator program
..it looks that my calculator works properly...

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