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Im planning on painting the housing of my Hermes a gloss black. I've been reading on how to take it apart and some people complaining of a screen alignment problem.. what are the chances of this happening? has anyone taken it apart and put it back together with no problems? thankss
realslimb said:
Im planning on painting the housing of my Hermes a gloss black. I've been reading on how to take it apart and some people complaining of a screen alignment problem.. what are the chances of this happening? has anyone taken it apart and put it back together with no problems? thankss
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Sounds like a cool idea, I fancy a go at that too!!
Let me know how you get on! If possible, can you take pics of the deconstruction process?
ashleyhall said:
Sounds like a cool idea, I fancy a go at that too!!
Let me know how you get on! If possible, can you take pics of the deconstruction process?
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If it's pics and a dismantling process you can find them on the wiki. Alternatively go here. The downloadable service manual has a full dismantling guide with pics- more than you need, cos you would only need to take the case off not take every last bit apart. Also there are links in the practical section to more basic but pretty clear guides:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com
Mike
trade/swap/exchange or buy a orange spv m3100 tis black.
Unless your a professional sprayer, your more than likely to make a hash of it.
painting plastic is 2x more difficult than metal, I'd advise against your idea. it will chip or be blotchy at best.
well im actually getting my car repainted black and they said they will spray down the pieces to.. they would be sanded.. primed.. painted.. and glossed so the painting isn't a problem.. im just worried about the screen alignment.. will I even need to touch the screen in order to take off the housing?
That'll look nice, I had the black case from mertiline and it looks pretty cool.
It'll be nice if you upload some pics after the job is done.
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well im actually getting my car repainted black and they said they will spray down the pieces to.. they would be sanded.. primed.. painted.. and glossed so the painting isn't a problem.. im just worried about the screen alignment.. will I even need to touch the screen in order to take off the housing?
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Just make sure they don't put it in the oven after all that or you'll end up with a blob of nicely painted plastic..
I will definatly post pics.. but I need to find out first.. will it effect my screen alignment.. and will I even need to touch the screen in order to get the front of the housing off?
realslimb said:
I will definatly post pics.. but I need to find out first.. will it effect my screen alignment.. and will I even need to touch the screen in order to get the front of the housing off?
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Have you not seen the dismantling guides including those I linked to above - they show the steps involved.
Re screen alignment, I doubt anyone will categorically say you will not have any problems. All we can say is that quite a few folks have had theirs apart to replace screens etc and have not had any problem. However bear in mind many of these folks only did it because they had the SA issue to begin with.
I do worry a bit about how you would ensure the grooves around where the two sections of the casing click together are going to be masked off. To make this durable you will need quite a few layers of paint but to get a good bond to the plastic would require roughing the surface first - certainly an all or nothing process.
Mike
realslimb said:
Im planning on painting the housing of my Hermes a gloss black. I've been reading on how to take it apart and some people complaining of a screen alignment problem.. what are the chances of this happening? has anyone taken it apart and put it back together with no problems? thankss
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Suggestion: Look on ebay for snap-on skins for your phone. Paint the skin instead.
These skins snap over the phone perfectly so you won't have to take the phone apart to style it. And yes, you can still extend the keyboard and access all of the buttons with the skins on it.
I wanna paint my Wizard. It's got more wear than a 50-year old prostitute. Can anyone give me some tips as to protecting the screen, buttons, and camera lens as well as using a certain kind of paint? Thanks.
I have also been thinking of doing the same and downloaded the Wizard Service guide thinking I would disassemble, paint and then reassemble. I did this in particular because I also hoped to fix the slider which has become loose and the wizard opens on its own and sometimes gets stuck when shifting between potrait and landscape. But the process is just too much to handle and will need heavy studying of the manual.
Befor you should know how to put your mobile in parts. It's explain on this website :
http://www.ce4you.cz/articles/detail.asp?a=263
good luck
Well I was just thinking using masking tape and spray paint of some kind; no dissassembly required. But fixing your slider problem... maybe should be put in a separate thread.
And yeah... these parts are very delicate. I wouldn't want to dissassemble this thing.
I really want to paint my Wizard too, I was thinking about painting the whole thing black. I'm not afraid of taking the device apart, but I have doubts about the paint. Isn't it just gonna fall off like the oruiginal paint did? What paint are you going to use? Please update this thread if u succeed and tell us how did you do it (and what paint did you use)
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qntos said:
I really want to paint my Wizard too, I was thinking about painting the whole thing black. I'm not afraid of taking the device apart, but I have doubts about the paint. Isn't it just gonna fall off like the oruiginal paint did? What paint are you going to use? Please update this thread if u succeed and tell us how did you do it (and what paint did you use)
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I would think that if you painted then put a shieldzone on it would protect your new paint nicely. Any thoughts?
there was a previous thread in the upgrading section, i think it was "badbert" who posted a ford GT look on his wizard, and he even included tips, how and what he used
opps sorry, it was the clear case he painted, but check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306568&highlight=badbert
lol - without disassemble the wizard will look like a piece of sh**. In addition you have to know something about painting. Its not like just spray with a cheap can of paint. After two weeks the painting will be of.
I know that because i've painted a lot of stuff (like cars, PC's and so on)
I started off with an Audiovox SMT 5600 and bought a dummy phone on Ebay for $8.00. Took apart both and used the dummy phone's casing and it turned my Audiovox into a brand new phone.
Maybe you could find a dummy Wizard or a Wizard with a broken screen on the Cheap and use the casing to bring yours back to snuff?
Now I have the HTC TMO Wing -- You can buy the battery cover back door on Ebay for around $10.00. I bought two of em. So now when I **** up the finish - just replace the door which essentially half the phone.
Was wondering if its possible to rebuild the Hermes using the tilt housing for the lcd from a Kaiser? When i had the Kaiser it wasn't that different from the Hermes in terms of shape and size so am i right in asuming the insides would match? Ideally what i'd do is just replace the LCD housing for the tilting one, retaining all the original Hermes parts exept for the tilt mechanism.
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Was wondering if its possible to rebuild the Hermes using the tilt housing for the lcd from a Kaiser? When i had the Kaiser it wasn't that different from the Hermes in terms of shape and size so am i right in asuming the insides would match? Ideally what i'd do is just replace the LCD housing for the tilting one, retaining all the original Hermes parts exept for the tilt mechanism.
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IMHO if you start trying to do that you will regret ever starting it. OK they are roughly (I do mean roughly) the same size, but every screw hole will be in a different position, the detailed parts like switches, flex cable connectors, holes for connectors, camera etc etc are not in exactly the same positions and to be honest it would probably be easier to manufacture your own casing (as daft as that sounds).
Personally I think it's a fantasy that can never be!
Mike
Somehow possible
Hi!
I have managed to rebuild my HTC TYTN with black centre housing with a black 8525 housing and smaller front keypad.
Now its all black, but it lacks the tilt function on the kaiser.
robinmalmberg said:
Hi!
I have managed to rebuild my HTC TYTN with black centre housing with a black 8525 housing and smaller front keypad.
Now its all black, but it lacks the tilt function on the kaiser.
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Its not that entire screen section i want to use, just the hinged sliding mechanism. The casing itself is different and i doubt it would fit right anyway.
On the Hermes you've got the 2 sliders that screw into the casing with the 4 screws. Surely the ones on the Kaiser are the same but with a hinge to allow the tilt?
I'm gonna go digging around for a Kaiser disassembly manual. There's one on the Wiki i think.
Cheers guys.
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Its not that entire screen section i want to use, just the hinged sliding mechanism. The casing itself is different and i doubt it would fit right anyway.
On the Hermes you've got the 2 sliders that screw into the casing with the 4 screws. Surely the ones on the Kaiser are the same but with a hinge to allow the tilt?
I'm gonna go digging around for a Kaiser disassembly manual. There's one on the Wiki i think.
Cheers guys.
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I'm afraid the mechanism is very different. There is a double coil spring mechanism in the TyTn II. You'll see it in the Manual, but seriously and I don't say this lightly, IMHO it's not a workable idea, there are no sliders like you have on the Hermes. There is no spare space in the Hermes. The entire hinge part on the TyTn II is a part of the Keyboard casing so you would need that part and the screen section contains the double coil spring, so you would need that section as there is no spare space in the Hermes to fit it. So in other words you would need the complete Kaiser casing. That then leaves you the impossible task of fitting the Hermes circuitry into a complete Kaiser casing.
Mike
mikechannon said:
...I'm afraid the mechanism is very different. There is a double coil spring mechanism in the TyTn II...
Mike
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Ah ****, i forgot about that. Not to worry, it was just an idea. Might try getting hold of a dummy device and fabricating something, though i doubt i'll make the time and effort for it. Heh
Al
Hi there,
unfortunately I dropped my Toch HD last weekend on rough ground, the housing ist completely scratched at the corners and looks awful. The lucky part is that technically it still works perfectly and the display/screen is not damaged.
So, I'd like to replace the housing and I've already found some replacement parts on the net (e.g. here for USD 80... i know, quite expensive but for me it's worth it, cheaper offers always welcome though).
The real problem is that I couldn't find any instructions to do it and no hints whether any special tools are necessary. The forum search only delivered rare information. With a proper instruction I would dare to do it myself, but without I'm afraid to damage the device.
So has anybody got a detailed instruction or experience changing the housing?
would be grat,
thanks in advance,
regards jan
Isn't this what you are looking for?
http://htcdriver.com/index.php?page=htc-blackstone-touch-hd-service-manual
And congratulations for not damaging the screen, because this is what happened to me (see the attachment), and amazingly everything works .
Thank You, exactly what I was looking for...
...however, it looks much more complicated than I expected... have to toke some time to analyze the instruction for which steps are necessary for changing the casing only without complete disassembly... not sure yet if I should dare it...
but, anyway, thank you again!
regards jan
P.S.1: has anybody tried it yet and have some experience to share?
P.S.2: I'm not sure about the "plastic stick" shown in the disassembly part... whether it's really just a flat and bit flexible plastic stick or if itr has any special tip...
try, it's easy
I did it on a P3600 and it was not so difficult, just take your time (at least one hour).
Read everything carrefully before starting, prepare tools and clean your hands
I also dropped my touch hd and dented the front bezel. I have bought a complete replacement housing and tools required for only £25 on ebay.
I have read the service manual and it doesn't deal with removing the lcd screen from the bezel. I read somewhere that it is a complete unit and you can't detach it easily
The new case is still in its box until I can find more out. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
Yup it isn't as easy as it looks. The manual lacks details as it only tells you how and where but did not elaborate more on minor yet important details.
I bought an antenna cover from ebay to replace, and boy, removing the cover was not easy at all. I used to take apart my other phones all the time and HD is the most difficult one I've done. I ended up breaking the small plastic sockets (that clicks the cover firmly into place) of the original cover. Luckily I have a new one to fit back in. Originally I wanted to replace the whole housing myself but I stopped after the antenna cover until I get a video of how its done.
So anyone? Kindly? Any videos please? XD
still no videos out there?
not looking good for us as i still can't find any video tutorials out there so im assuming that its super hard to do
please can anyone assist?
superseagull said:
not looking good for us as i still can't find any video tutorials out there so im assuming that its super hard to do
please can anyone assist?
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lol i chickened out eventually. and im still using my not-so-perfect housing as im reluctant to change it myself while being too stingy to pay a pro to do it.
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"meyourchum" has provded a link to get offical disassembly instruction with lot more information.
Check it for yourself
Hello folks,
I had a chance to work on my friends arc who bought a Rogers version and dropped it. He had it totally mess on the case and needed the full housing replacement.
I hope that doesn't happen to anyone. I didn't take any photos but I am trying to explain everything as it was to help anyone with this.
General Note:
- Anywhere you got stuck, watch some X10 Disassembly video
- Be very gentle to your phone in this process
- Besides all the screws the rest of the phone is put together with glue(Sticky Back) and snap(plastic for main board)
- Using this information on your own risk as I don't take any responsibility if anything happens to your phone.
Instruction
1) Remove the back battery cover. Thats the easiest part
2) Need star shaped screw driver[Trox](I bought the set for $5) there are 4 screws like that and two which opens with phillips screwdriver(tiny) This is what I bought
All the above we all have seen them
3) After removing the 6 screws remove the front fascia of the phone with a guitar picks, something skinny but sturdy*
* I recommend not using anything other than rubber or plastic in the whole process.
4) Main board is snapped in with plastic to the body which easily can be opened.
5) Little board on the bottom is glued(sticky back @ top) which you can remove with pulling little hard but make sure you don't break it.
6) Majority of the wire you see connected to mainboard can be discounted (snap in wires)
7) Removing the screen: from outside of the phone (like you are looking directly to screen like you normally do) you need to put something under neat and raise up the screen. This part has glue as well and its hard to lift but I did it and it should be possible.
8) if you are doing a full housing replacement, then there are stuff here and there that you need to remove and re-use it on the new housing(Like 3.5 mm jack, HDMI lid, etc.)
Good Luck and let me know if you have any questions.
1st time... ehm.. taking the Arc apart, that is!
Helluw there
Just read your post, and thought I wanted to share with you, that I might be opening one of these slick little things. My friend broke his display, and the ISP is talking about some 'off the scale' repair prizes.
...So, he asked me to do the job
Told him I didn't have any experience on the disassembling of this phonetype, but he trusts me it seems
I might return with some questions in case of problems, is that OK with you Nimche?
Greetingz
Hope u have the courage to make a video next time
Sent from my Arc using XDA premium App
xelion said:
Helluw there
Just read your post, and thought I wanted to share with you, that I might be opening one of these slick little things. My friend broke his display, and the ISP is talking about some 'off the scale' repair prizes.
...So, he asked me to do the job
Told him I didn't have any experience on the disassembling of this phonetype, but he trusts me it seems
I might return with some questions in case of problems, is that OK with you Nimche?
Greetingz
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Sure, no problem. I would be more than happy to answer. Lets see just some general stuff...
Note: anywhere you got stuck, watch some X10 Disassembly video
Note: be very gentle to your phone in this process
- you remove the back battery cover. Thats the easiest part
- you need that star shaped screw driver(I bought the set for $5) there are 4 screws like that and two which opens with phillips screwdriver(tiny)
All the above we all have seen them
after removing the 6 screws
note: besides all the screws the rest of the phone is put together with glue and snap(plastic for main board)
- remove the front fascia of the phone with a guitar picks, something skinny but sturdy*
* I recommend not using anything other than rubber or plastic in the whole process.
- main board is snapped in with plastic to the body which easily can be opened. I change full housing and not sure if you have to remove the hard key button from the bottom end of the phone too or not but that little board on the bottom is glue which you can remove with pulling little hard but make sure you don't break it.
- All the wire you see connected to mainboard can be discounted (snap in wires)
- There is a big one which goes to the screen you have to dis-attach that before removing the screen
- Removing the screen: from outside of the phone (like you are looking directly to screen like you normally do) you need to put something under neat and raise up the screen. This part has glue as well and its hard to lift but I did it and it should be possible.
Good Luck and let me know if you have any questions.
Can you answer this??? It get's hot here (and also in the same spot on the front.. so what's inside at this point??
CPU is right behind the second cover. I wish I could take some photos.
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CPU is right behind the second cover. I wish I could take some photos.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was also suspecting since this area gets damn hot when playing games and even at charging (sometimes).
So seems like they move the CPU from behind the battery in X10 to near to the camera in Arc .
Can I change only the front faceplate around the screen without removing the mainboard? How easy would that be? I want to change mine to Misty Silver as Rogers only carry the Midnight Blue.
Also, for glued parts, do I have to glue them back on the new housing?
hellocng said:
Can I change only the front faceplate around the screen without removing the mainboard? How easy would that be? I want to change mine to Misty Silver as Rogers only carry the Midnight Blue.
Also, for glued parts, do I have to glue them back on the new housing?
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Glue part, they are more sticky than glued. You just simply stick it back where it was.
Where is the silver face you found?
This is retarded from them...
Digitizer and screen(one part) are sticked to the front face. In order to for your to change the faceplate only(front) you may have to go through the whole process because the wires from digitizer are going through a big hole to the main board. You don't want to mess around with $700 or $800.
Inside, everything is small. really small. I thought I totally screwed up the whole thing. Technology has gone forward alot since I was a kid putting radio together.
Good Luck
prathaban said:
Thanks for the clarification. I was also suspecting since this area gets damn hot when playing games and even at charging (sometimes).
So seems like they move the CPU from behind the battery in X10 to near to the camera in Arc .
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Yes, there are two board one above battery and one below batter @ bottom of the phone
On top is the main board
on bottom is the board for hard keys.
Nicely put together but they could have done a better job there....
Are there three parts to the housing? I assume there is the front plate, middle housing with the chrome, and the battery cover. The mainboard should be in the middle with the chrome. So I can't just detach the screen front the front plate? What is holding the three pieces of housing together? The six screws?
There are silver housings on eBay from time to time. Though, blue is a lot more common.
Three pieces. Back battery cover which is nothing.
Then there are two main pieces.
Chrome which is more like a holder of the fascia.
If I remember correctly, the front Fascia is the one holding all the board on it including that metal look piece(aluminum probably)
I will take photos and upload here...
Uploaded photos to the first post...
Hey, I'm looking to replace the chrome piece which has a few nasty chips in it, after removing the second back cover, how easy is it to take off that chrome piece?
Great post
How can I replace digitizer? I dropped my phone and the glass cracked
anyone know where i can get the tiny screw driver? I cant seem to find the correct one. they are either too small or too big.
how easy is it to replace the front cover, ive cracked the top of it and chipped a bit out the side (surrounding the screen) i presume it'd be simple enough. And does anyone know where i can get a good quality/genuine front cover replacement?
soldiers33 said:
anyone know where i can get the tiny screw driver? I cant seem to find the correct one. they are either too small or too big.
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Sorry, you could have sent a private message.
I bought the screw driver here at local tool shop. Home Depot sells them.
Its called Trox Screw Driver and I bought exactly this one http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100087664&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=100087664&ci_kw={keyword}&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googleads-_-pla-_-100087664&ci_gpa=pla&locStoreNum=618
I don't have the packaging but they should be standard.
Good Luck
mps83 said:
how easy is it to replace the front cover, ive cracked the top of it and chipped a bit out the side (surrounding the screen) i presume it'd be simple enough. And does anyone know where i can get a good quality/genuine front cover replacement?
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You can find the whole housing between $30 to $40 but the front cover is that actual main piece that holds all the internal components + the screen.
If the crack doesn't bug you much, I would not do it since you have to replace the sticker behind you battery as well, which is not easy to peel off + you have to take the screen off the old front fascia which is glued and kind of hard to take off.
Downside of the whole thing for me was the sticker. I have to find an alternative for this problem.