Hermes in a Kaiser Body - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Was wondering if its possible to rebuild the Hermes using the tilt housing for the lcd from a Kaiser? When i had the Kaiser it wasn't that different from the Hermes in terms of shape and size so am i right in asuming the insides would match? Ideally what i'd do is just replace the LCD housing for the tilting one, retaining all the original Hermes parts exept for the tilt mechanism.

ToppyHTC said:
Was wondering if its possible to rebuild the Hermes using the tilt housing for the lcd from a Kaiser? When i had the Kaiser it wasn't that different from the Hermes in terms of shape and size so am i right in asuming the insides would match? Ideally what i'd do is just replace the LCD housing for the tilting one, retaining all the original Hermes parts exept for the tilt mechanism.
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IMHO if you start trying to do that you will regret ever starting it. OK they are roughly (I do mean roughly) the same size, but every screw hole will be in a different position, the detailed parts like switches, flex cable connectors, holes for connectors, camera etc etc are not in exactly the same positions and to be honest it would probably be easier to manufacture your own casing (as daft as that sounds).
Personally I think it's a fantasy that can never be!
Mike

Somehow possible
Hi!
I have managed to rebuild my HTC TYTN with black centre housing with a black 8525 housing and smaller front keypad.
Now its all black, but it lacks the tilt function on the kaiser.

robinmalmberg said:
Hi!
I have managed to rebuild my HTC TYTN with black centre housing with a black 8525 housing and smaller front keypad.
Now its all black, but it lacks the tilt function on the kaiser.
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Its not that entire screen section i want to use, just the hinged sliding mechanism. The casing itself is different and i doubt it would fit right anyway.
On the Hermes you've got the 2 sliders that screw into the casing with the 4 screws. Surely the ones on the Kaiser are the same but with a hinge to allow the tilt?
I'm gonna go digging around for a Kaiser disassembly manual. There's one on the Wiki i think.
Cheers guys.

ToppyHTC said:
Its not that entire screen section i want to use, just the hinged sliding mechanism. The casing itself is different and i doubt it would fit right anyway.
On the Hermes you've got the 2 sliders that screw into the casing with the 4 screws. Surely the ones on the Kaiser are the same but with a hinge to allow the tilt?
I'm gonna go digging around for a Kaiser disassembly manual. There's one on the Wiki i think.
Cheers guys.
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I'm afraid the mechanism is very different. There is a double coil spring mechanism in the TyTn II. You'll see it in the Manual, but seriously and I don't say this lightly, IMHO it's not a workable idea, there are no sliders like you have on the Hermes. There is no spare space in the Hermes. The entire hinge part on the TyTn II is a part of the Keyboard casing so you would need that part and the screen section contains the double coil spring, so you would need that section as there is no spare space in the Hermes to fit it. So in other words you would need the complete Kaiser casing. That then leaves you the impossible task of fitting the Hermes circuitry into a complete Kaiser casing.
Mike

mikechannon said:
...I'm afraid the mechanism is very different. There is a double coil spring mechanism in the TyTn II...
Mike
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Ah ****, i forgot about that. Not to worry, it was just an idea. Might try getting hold of a dummy device and fabricating something, though i doubt i'll make the time and effort for it. Heh
Al

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Disassembly Htc Athena / Dopod U1000 ?

Disassembly HTC Athena.
Hi..
I still want but no sucess , a disassembly guide or video that show step by step to disassembly the HTC Athena / Dopod U1000.
If something have this or know about ?
Thanks!
FranCoke
There isn't one.. If you want one that bad take your Athena apart and make one.. Then you could give/sell it to others..
Madhadder said:
There isn't one.. If you want one that bad take your Athena apart and make one.. Then you could give/sell it to others..
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Sell? You're in the wrong forum with that mentality. Most if not all members here contribute their efforts however large or small for the good of the community.
I got as far as taking the bottom plastic piece off that covers the SIM, battery, etc. You can also remove the mag plates if you want from this area. But could not get the inside assembly out. I think the black plastic piece on the top camera side is cliped onto the inside structure to hold it in and needs to be removed then the assembly will slide out the bottom, but I did not want to damage that area since it so shiny and pretty (looking at myself).

HTC 8525 Plastic Casing / Housing

Does anyone know where I can buy a new plastic casing for the Cingular 8525? The phone works great, but the outside is chipped a bit and a little beat up. I would like to replace it if possible. Everything I find when looking it up just returns cases / holsters - I'm looking to replace the actual casing the phone is in.
Alternatively, are there any good, hard cases that are not bulky and protect the screen as well? I had a metal one for the 8125 that worked well (although a bit bulky), but this phone doesn't quite fit it.
I would like to know too. I have too many scratches now and would like to clean it up. I don't want to switch phones until that Blackstone comes out!!
Hey, i was searching for Hermes Housing few weeks ago!
First thing you have to look are the different Hermes Models
HERM100, HERM200 and HERM300
The 200 has got a unique design so these Housings are not compatible to the other ones, but the 100 and 300 are nearly the same, the exclusive difference is the Front-Key-Layout.
The Key Layout does no effect to the compatibility of Housings.
As far as i know the 8525 is a HERM100 but it does not have a front camera.So if you want to put a 8525 Housing on a normal HERM100/300 you will loose your front Camera.
But inverted if you put a Hermes 100/300 Housing on a 8525 it will fit and you will get an empty front camera hole.
So if you got an 8525 you're able to buy every Hermes 100/300 Housing!
Here is for example one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLACK-FULL-HOUS...39:1|66:3|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
But if the pictures are true, it will only fit on 8525, because missing front camera.So the description is wrong, it will not fit for example with MDA Vario 2 (HERM300)
and here's my favorite Housing Seller:
http://stores.ebay.com/ukhitechstore
There you're able to find a 8525 Housing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/SILVER-FULL-HOU...20336QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
But there is also a amzing Black Housing for Hermes 100/300, which i will buy as far as i get the money
http://cgi.ebay.com/BLACK-FULL-HOUS...20336QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
I hope i could help you!
i have bought a full housing as mine was scratched to hell, there easy to replace.

Replacement touch screen

I have couple of scratches on my touch pro screen.when the device is on the scratches are like rainbow colors really visible.If I change the touch screen (not the whole lcd screen) that will fix my problem right? Did any1 do this?
ummm i think when u meant by "rainbow colors" then ure gonna have to replace the WHOLE LCD screen, cuz more than likely its from the LCD screen, and i dont think the touch screen and LCD screen are 2 parts...i think theyre just one...not sure, but try to look on ebay OR idk if u have warranty on it u can probably call in HTC about it...
This is what I think will fix the scratches
Code:
[CODE]http://mobile1.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03976&dept_id=088&cat_id=0695
Code:
Much cheaper
For Digitizer Module for T-Mobile MDA Vario IV Touch Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20648
For HTC Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20647
I don't know if it fit the same as Touch Pro or Fuze, but read the spec
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
radoste said:
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
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Maybe this can help.Its a How to remove cameras from touch pro with pictures
Code:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h2mmwetxnij/HTC%20Touch%20Pro%20-%20Camera%20removal%20photo%20guide%20v1.1%20by%20A%20Mak.pdf
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
radoste said:
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
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I wouldnt, thats just the only touch pro take apart that I found with pictures
mikechannon.net is a good place to start. But if you are looking to replace the digitizer only, you won't find it there. It's a bad move anyway. I tried that, cracked my lcd and end-up buying the whole lcd like this.
All I can tell you are my mistakes.... lol....
- never peel of the digitizer. it will ruin it.
- never try to remove the lcd with cutter blade. this is how i cracked it (stupid me and still regret it)
- between the lcd and the digitizer there is a thick, clear double tape like glue. i came across some information about this somewhere (forget where...). one said you should heat the glue first (don't know how to apply this without affecting the lcd) . other one said have to use dental floss.
So, there you go.
HTC Touch Pro- LCD & Digitizer replacement instuctions
Hi everyone. I have SCOURGED the internet looking for some kind of decent instructions to replace the LCD & Digitizer screen on my HTC Touch Pro (Sprint) phone with the new set I purchased from Hong Kong. Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
I have seen you all talking about needing to do the same thing and wonder if anyone has done it? And do you have any directions to help me?
I've had this part for a month now, and can't find any directions to do it! My dog chewed it, and the touch works, but the screen is half black now. I read it is easier/less risky to replace both lcd and digitizer, which I went ahead and purchased them both with the tools, now I just need to find something decent (instructions) to have help replacing it.
thanks to anyone who can step up to help me, I'm frustrated beyond all comprehension, and now feel I may as well ditch the phone if I can't find a way to replace it. Or maybe you know someone I could send it off to? Everyone wants to charge a couple hundred bucks sending it in to them!
to the appling heat ...u can try putting it in a ziploc bag and boiling it ...and for the instructions this is the best i can do for u http://store.payloadz.com/str-asp-i...nance_Manual_eBooks_Technical-end-detail.html
im pretty sure after all ur fustration 8 dollars wont kill u ...and im pretty sure the condensation from the boiling wont hurt
and i found a free one hope it helps http://www.htcdriver.com/index.php?page=htc-raphael
it's a long trip, in russian, to get to the lcd
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
You can use Google translate on it. It seems that the hardest component to get to is the lcd. I also bought the digitizer, since my lcd is fine. I'll post a follow-up if I go for it.
Any luck getting the touch screen off and new one on?
I bought a touch screen and digitizer as separate items. I wish I had known that some kind of clear adhesive is supposed to be between them.
A) What happens if you don't use this adhesive?
B) Has anyone successfully replaced the screen/digitizer with replacements on the fuze or touch pro?
Anyone having luck?
Has anyone actually figured out how to install this? I just got what was supposed to be a replacement LCD+digitizer. they shipped the pieces seperate, so I can't understand how to put them together, since HTC seems to only list the part as one piece and there are no instructions or videos anywhere that indicate how to install them as seperate pieces, or get them to connect.
Dont do it!!
Ok, I just recently bought a parts phone on here (a Fuze) and was "just going to replace the digitizer" (Authors laughs, then cries at statement)
Ok, yes you can replace the digitizer without replacing the screen, BUT they tell you to use an oven (you can buy one from HTC they make it available to their techs, so you need someone that can get that for you). If you do not make sure that ALL of the glue is loose prior to taking the digitizer off you will split the LCD.
It is much simpler to get either a parts phone or a screen and digitizer and replace the part. I had to replace my digitizer as the touch function did not work. You can find older project phones in the market section. If you figure the cost of a parts phone (plus you have extra parts if anything else goes out) vs. if you buy a digitizer, then rip a part of the LCD because all of the glue was not disolved, and have to buy either a parts phone or a new phone anyway you will be way ahead of the game.
There are a number of good resources on here as to how to disassemble and reassemble the fuze.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TRYING TO REPLACE THE DIGITIZER ALONE IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED OR HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT - unless you need a reason to sell your spouse on why you need a new phone. "Honey, I tried my hardest to fix it, but I guess it is really broke now, I'm gonna have to get an HD2"
If you have any questions about the process let me know I am always more than happy to help.
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC%20Raphael_SM_A10%20_GENERIC__01%20Dec%20
pkwhisker said:
Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
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Yes, indeed, mike channon does offer a very detailed service manual for the raphael.
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael): Some Tips
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro
How To - Tips
1. Collect information
a. Find the Service Manual HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) on Mike Channons's site, the Raphael wiki or you could Google for it. File name is "HTC Raphael_SM_A10 _GENERIC__01 Dec 08.pdf".
Take a look at the disassembly and assembly chapters of the Service Manual.
The following two lists may be helpful.
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List 1: types and quantities of screws
[SPL no., P/N, pages of Service Manual, description, quantity used in Raphael]
10. 72H01893-00M (see p. 34), black (middle length), 2x
11. 72H02450-00M (see p. 32, 34, 30), black (shortest type), 7x
12. 72H02474-00M (p. 37), black (longest type), 4x
13. 72H02689-00M (p. 30), metal, 4x
26. 72H02865-00M (p. 35), metal, 6x
27. 72H02886-00M (p. 35), 1x torque screw for M/B, 1x
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List 2: kinds of tape/fabric used in the Raphael
a. Conductive fabric
Self adhesive conductive fabric, parts 14-24 on the SPL. The adhesive backside is also conductive.
b. Mylar
A specific kind of polyethylenetereftalaat (PET) used for electical insulation.
c. Kapton tape
Kapton is a polyimide film which can remain stable in a wide range of temperatures. (electrical insulation)
d. EMI gasket
EMI shields are implemented in a design to isolate one component or section of a device from another.
e. Double sided tape
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b. Movies of the disassembly process can be found on YouTube for the HTC Diamond.
The Diamond does not have an integrated keyboard, so it is a bit different, but it is good enough to get an idea of the process.
The information on how to replace the screen itself is not found in the service manual.
c. Study the last few stages of the HTC Touch Pro page on pdacenter.ru
(Translate the page into English using Google.)
The display is attached to the metal frame by 4 small pieces of double sided tape.
3. Get some tools
a. Phillips (cross head) screwdriver size 00x50
The right size is 00. The length, 50mm, is less important.
There is one torque screw in the Raphael (SPL no. 27), but it can easily be handled by a normal screwdriver.
b. Plastic stick (to open the case)
The standard plastic stick I had ordered was actually too big. The one I made myself was smaller and proved to be better.
c. Other tools
I did not use these, but if you plan to do more than one it would be a good idea to use the
- plastic tweezers
- ESD wrist wrap
- rubber gloves
4. Buy a display with touch screen attached to it
You could buy the touch screen and the display separately, but I could not find any information on putting them together. Avoid problems by buying these already attached.
5. Replace the display
a. Disassemble following the Service Manual, leaving the M/B unit in order.
Be careful not to break the small speaker cords. Do not move them too much because they are very fragile.
Be sure to keep every piece of tape safe for reassembly. Buying new tape can be quite expensive.
b. For the last stages, follow the instructions from pdacenter.ru.
Press the old display gently out of the metal frame. Move the pieces of double sided tape from the old to the new display, and fit the new one into the metal frame.
c. Reassemble following the Service Manual.
Good luck!
What will fit what?
Will the lcd and digitizer from a sprint version work on an alltel version(ppc-6850)? Or is there another lcd and digitizer that i can use? Im back to the old berry 8703 and its killing me.
spammer said:
if you just find scratches on the surface, then you just need to change the touch screen digitizer. the soldering is requested when you fit it.
But of course, if you buy the one that lcd and touch screen fit together one, then no soldering request.
Anyway, soldering is not such difficult if you has the tool.
thanks
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I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
ingmardb said:
I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
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you can look at the connect flex cable part of your touch screen and the lcd, you will find they are soldered together. Of course , if you don't soldering it together, it will also work, but not as good as after soldering.

Replacement Screen overlay?

I got my htc off ebay and the screen is a little scratched, it doesnt effect use at all but i was wandering if it were possible to replace just the front plastic layer and not the whole screen?
cycloid said:
I got my htc off ebay and the screen is a little scratched, it doesnt effect use at all but i was wandering if it were possible to replace just the front plastic layer and not the whole screen?
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Yes it´s possible
But first to know what HTC you have?
This section called Universal does not means all HTC devices, it´s a model!!
Orange SPV M5000 / HTC Universal.
Are we talking about screen protector? Then just buy another one and apply.
If we are talking about digitizer, it's a part of the screen that is responsible for the touch function. That part is better replaced by an experienced technician, and I take it, you are not an experienced technician.
The alternative is to replace the entire LCD unit.
It looks like it's integral to the unit but is definitely plasticcy and not glass-like like i'd expect the front of an LCD to be, guess it must be the digitiser. Replacing any part of it shouldnt be a problem i've soldered and hacked smaller devices before, guess it'd just be getting hold of the part cheaply that'd be the problem.
cycloid said:
It looks like it's integral to the unit but is definitely plasticcy and not glass-like like i'd expect the front of an LCD to be, guess it must be the digitiser. Replacing any part of it shouldnt be a problem i've soldered and hacked smaller devices before, guess it'd just be getting hold of the part cheaply that'd be the problem.
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Not a problem to buy a digitizer at all, they are just a few bucks on eBay. Just make sure you know what is involved before you do. Good luck.
Found some on ebay, will read up on the procedure before I take the plunge, thanks for the tips
cycloid said:
Found some on ebay, will read up on the procedure before I take the plunge, thanks for the tips
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You had better read the following dialogue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3906555
I ended up having to obtain a whole new screen+digitizer. Soldering is not the issue - it's the way you do it! Be warned.
I've put the dialogue together on the Wiki here

TD2 Casing on a AT&T Pure

I have a couple of small cracks on the plastic casing of my new Pure.
I was wondering if the casing from the TD2 would fit right on this phone, or if they are not compatible? I like the look of TD2 casing and that it doesnt have the little "door" over the charging connector, I hate that thing.
Otherwise, any suggestions where to get new casing?
Thanks in advance,
-rezilient
They are compatable, but you would need the antenna for the regular TD2 case because they are different. No housing I have seen includes this, so if you find one let us know. Oh, and you would also need a different digitizer to fit the new housing
A little expensive, but a good shop:
http://cnn.cn/shop/t5353-touch-diamond2-topaz-c-277_829.html
Or you could try ebay

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