I wanna paint my Wizard. It's got more wear than a 50-year old prostitute. Can anyone give me some tips as to protecting the screen, buttons, and camera lens as well as using a certain kind of paint? Thanks.
I have also been thinking of doing the same and downloaded the Wizard Service guide thinking I would disassemble, paint and then reassemble. I did this in particular because I also hoped to fix the slider which has become loose and the wizard opens on its own and sometimes gets stuck when shifting between potrait and landscape. But the process is just too much to handle and will need heavy studying of the manual.
Befor you should know how to put your mobile in parts. It's explain on this website :
http://www.ce4you.cz/articles/detail.asp?a=263
good luck
Well I was just thinking using masking tape and spray paint of some kind; no dissassembly required. But fixing your slider problem... maybe should be put in a separate thread.
And yeah... these parts are very delicate. I wouldn't want to dissassemble this thing.
I really want to paint my Wizard too, I was thinking about painting the whole thing black. I'm not afraid of taking the device apart, but I have doubts about the paint. Isn't it just gonna fall off like the oruiginal paint did? What paint are you going to use? Please update this thread if u succeed and tell us how did you do it (and what paint did you use)
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qntos said:
I really want to paint my Wizard too, I was thinking about painting the whole thing black. I'm not afraid of taking the device apart, but I have doubts about the paint. Isn't it just gonna fall off like the oruiginal paint did? What paint are you going to use? Please update this thread if u succeed and tell us how did you do it (and what paint did you use)
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I would think that if you painted then put a shieldzone on it would protect your new paint nicely. Any thoughts?
there was a previous thread in the upgrading section, i think it was "badbert" who posted a ford GT look on his wizard, and he even included tips, how and what he used
opps sorry, it was the clear case he painted, but check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306568&highlight=badbert
lol - without disassemble the wizard will look like a piece of sh**. In addition you have to know something about painting. Its not like just spray with a cheap can of paint. After two weeks the painting will be of.
I know that because i've painted a lot of stuff (like cars, PC's and so on)
I started off with an Audiovox SMT 5600 and bought a dummy phone on Ebay for $8.00. Took apart both and used the dummy phone's casing and it turned my Audiovox into a brand new phone.
Maybe you could find a dummy Wizard or a Wizard with a broken screen on the Cheap and use the casing to bring yours back to snuff?
Now I have the HTC TMO Wing -- You can buy the battery cover back door on Ebay for around $10.00. I bought two of em. So now when I **** up the finish - just replace the door which essentially half the phone.
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I want to dissassemble my wizard for painting. (yes i really do). Has anyone taken it apart yet, or will I be the first?
people have taken it apart.. where's that thread, hmmm...
Ah, yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31755
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6298030&postcount=27
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=377474
Not too much info, but there you go. If you do take yours apart, take lots of pictures - you'll be an instant hero
Most paints will wear off very quickly and maybe make it look a bit unsightly, do you have a particular paint in mind?
And yes - please take many pics and post back with details of the procedure.
Not necessarily...
If you use a lacquer based paint - it will "etch" itself into the plastic. IF you use enamel - yes, it will wear off quickly and most likely be "unsightly".
Make sure you steel wool it first to rough it up and sand between coats. When you are satisfied with the look - sand once again with very fine paper - like 600 grit or finer - then - spray with a couple of coats of clear. It will look great!
I use to run a guitar shop - building repairing and refinishing. This will take some time - but it will look great.
Shep
Sounds good.
Will be interested to see the results when fp has finished it.
Interested too
NO NO NO NO
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again. I HIGHLY recommend against this, you'll regret it.
Echilon, sorry to hear that mate...
i fink the standard silver face looks decent...(MDA)
Thing is... how did you take it apart? I mean without injuring the plastics.
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I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again.
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In what way was it never the same again?
Hi Guys ,
I dissassemble my wizard tody ,I will post some pictures ,But I recommend not to do it ,as said (it will never the same again)
and if you insist to do it (THEN DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK)
I just fixed the styles (It is not loose anymore)
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Echilon said:
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again.
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In what way was it never the same again?
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It didn't fit back together properly and the battery cover used to hang half off. Aswell as that, the paint chipped eventually, but thankfully it got lost in the post and I got my money back from the post office
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but thankfully it got lost in the post and I got my money back from the post office
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LoL
Hmm interesting, I am jsut researching paints, does seem a laquer is the way to go. Guys who have taken it apart, your saying "its never the same again" Why, is there glue? Any experiance most welcome, I've built a mac tibook from 9 different donors and I am pretty good with my torx set, the only thing i hate is glue....
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I just fixed the styles (It is not loose anymore)
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did you do anything special or cram something to hold the plastic back in place?
I'm just getting ready to tear it apart just to fix this issue and any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Mc
I've repaired about 80 remote controls, and I highly suspect that most of the "never the same again" is related to wrangled plastic when trying to undo the 'click' system. If you have a ( Edit: http://www.noordhollandinbouw.nl/images/bankschroef.jpg ) and a very thin screw driver, these are pretty easy to open up without any wrangling/cracking. The other issue is paint getting inbetween seams - the device has to fit back together, so you need to keep the paint clear of those %)
Other than that, I really see no reason why it wouldn't be perfectly fitting back together with the only difference being the paintjob.
Maybe one of the two guys who mentioned this can give exact details?
Hi guys,
Actually when I said (it will never the same again) I did not mean it is impossible mission, but it need a high caution and steady hand (No glued parts) ,don’t try to open it hardly (it might break) with all that a scratch here or there will happened ,but still if any of you opened it safely and get it painted then everything will be fine.
About the stylus, yes I put 2 pieces of plastic between the cover and the stylus black encasement.
Thanks
Balo, can you explain how you unclipped the plastic cover. Is there a specific side to start on? How did you lever the part apart - finger nails or small screw driver? As much detail please as I want fix my stylus.
Was it hard to take of the faceplate? I need a new faceplate put on my 8125. Can you advise? Thanks!
so no pictures yet of the paintjob?
Im planning on painting the housing of my Hermes a gloss black. I've been reading on how to take it apart and some people complaining of a screen alignment problem.. what are the chances of this happening? has anyone taken it apart and put it back together with no problems? thankss
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Im planning on painting the housing of my Hermes a gloss black. I've been reading on how to take it apart and some people complaining of a screen alignment problem.. what are the chances of this happening? has anyone taken it apart and put it back together with no problems? thankss
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Sounds like a cool idea, I fancy a go at that too!!
Let me know how you get on! If possible, can you take pics of the deconstruction process?
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Sounds like a cool idea, I fancy a go at that too!!
Let me know how you get on! If possible, can you take pics of the deconstruction process?
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If it's pics and a dismantling process you can find them on the wiki. Alternatively go here. The downloadable service manual has a full dismantling guide with pics- more than you need, cos you would only need to take the case off not take every last bit apart. Also there are links in the practical section to more basic but pretty clear guides:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com
Mike
trade/swap/exchange or buy a orange spv m3100 tis black.
Unless your a professional sprayer, your more than likely to make a hash of it.
painting plastic is 2x more difficult than metal, I'd advise against your idea. it will chip or be blotchy at best.
well im actually getting my car repainted black and they said they will spray down the pieces to.. they would be sanded.. primed.. painted.. and glossed so the painting isn't a problem.. im just worried about the screen alignment.. will I even need to touch the screen in order to take off the housing?
That'll look nice, I had the black case from mertiline and it looks pretty cool.
It'll be nice if you upload some pics after the job is done.
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well im actually getting my car repainted black and they said they will spray down the pieces to.. they would be sanded.. primed.. painted.. and glossed so the painting isn't a problem.. im just worried about the screen alignment.. will I even need to touch the screen in order to take off the housing?
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Just make sure they don't put it in the oven after all that or you'll end up with a blob of nicely painted plastic..
I will definatly post pics.. but I need to find out first.. will it effect my screen alignment.. and will I even need to touch the screen in order to get the front of the housing off?
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I will definatly post pics.. but I need to find out first.. will it effect my screen alignment.. and will I even need to touch the screen in order to get the front of the housing off?
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Have you not seen the dismantling guides including those I linked to above - they show the steps involved.
Re screen alignment, I doubt anyone will categorically say you will not have any problems. All we can say is that quite a few folks have had theirs apart to replace screens etc and have not had any problem. However bear in mind many of these folks only did it because they had the SA issue to begin with.
I do worry a bit about how you would ensure the grooves around where the two sections of the casing click together are going to be masked off. To make this durable you will need quite a few layers of paint but to get a good bond to the plastic would require roughing the surface first - certainly an all or nothing process.
Mike
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Im planning on painting the housing of my Hermes a gloss black. I've been reading on how to take it apart and some people complaining of a screen alignment problem.. what are the chances of this happening? has anyone taken it apart and put it back together with no problems? thankss
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Suggestion: Look on ebay for snap-on skins for your phone. Paint the skin instead.
These skins snap over the phone perfectly so you won't have to take the phone apart to style it. And yes, you can still extend the keyboard and access all of the buttons with the skins on it.
Good afternoon,
Recently bought a housing for my trinity. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=120315350939)
The product was not expensive when compared to others, and it is the original cover from HTC. I have the white one, so i wanted to try the black.
The product came as quicker than expected and in perfect conditions. Also, the seller offers a complete kit to disassemble the Trinity. Checked the Dimantos tutorial (to whom i'd like to thank) in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311463 and dissassembled my old cover.
The black cover i bought didn't even have the LEDs, the camera protection, the buttons (camera, power) - Well, i thought, i can reuse the old ones. And so i did.
But, unfortunately, when trying to fasten the screw, i realised it's just plastic (there nothing in the cover to "receive" the screw) and its impossible to fasten them.
Also, i'd like to know if its possible to buy those little golden pieces, since i don't want to break the other cover to take them out.
Thanks in advance
wow it looks like you've been conned man...
hm
In my country we say:
how much money-that much music
dont buy cheap things, thaey are mostly not good
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...The black cover i bought didn't even have the LEDs, the camera protection, the buttons (camera, power) - Well, i thought, i can reuse the old ones. And so i did.
But, unfortunately, when trying to fasten the screw, i realised it's just plastic (there nothing in the cover to "receive" the screw) and its impossible to fasten them.
Also, i'd like to know if its possible to buy those little golden pieces, since i don't want to break the other cover to take them out.
Thanks in advance...
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Same here,
but I menage to pull out little golden pieces and place them in my new housing.
If you don't find "little gold pieces" here what you can do...
Fasten the screw in golden pieces but only a half way, than take tweezers, grab screw, and pull it out..
Warm golden pieces with lighter (also use tweezers) and stick them in new housing...
I got a cover from ebay and it pretty much went straight on except i had to put the old buttons in because the new on did not come with new ones
Hi,
it s incridible, i ve just finish to change my housing of my trinity 5 minutes ago !!!!
Same problem as you, no way to put screw, so i destroy my old housing to get the 5 gold piece, and i put it in the new.
One thing to say : f***k this seller on ebay, he says nthing about this issue !!!
Good Luck.
trinity housing from ebay
YUP YUP same thing happened to me! Me and my buddy used a lighter to warm the case and then forced the screws in. I had the black and got the white, I also bought the white silicone case too looks good! It was a nightmare I had to use EVERYTHINGfrom my old case.
I wonder if anyone has come across any gt540 housing aka replacement cases with different colours. I've made quite a few changes to the phones software (roms, themes, etc), so now I would also like to change the look or colour of it too. So if anyone has come across such things then please drop a link here
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I don't have any case replacement suggestions, but I also want the mod the housing and would be interested in any suggestions.
Also I'd like to remove front-facing t-mobile and LG logos - to cover them up or otherwise remove them.
I think I can break down the phone to get under the plastic cover, but I wonder what would be a good method for hiding the logos? A little black paint? Or is there a way to rub them off or actually remove them?
acetone maybe, but beware, acetone dislikes plastic and well just dont get it on the phone but maybe a drop on a earcleaner and try with that?
You could just respray the whole case. Sand it down then spray it. You will need a couple of different types of sprays to do it properly. Research on who to spray phone plastic. Its doable but hard and very easy to mess up. I was thinking of doing that myself but Im trying to find other things 1st before I come to that.
one question guys. is it possible to change ful housing on my gt540?
greets
gt 540
me too i want to know if we can change the housing . .
Its defiantly possible ive had both my GT540s disassembled and ive had everything apart, u just need to take note of were everything goes, ive made videos on how to take them apart, right to removing the screen and digitizer. a new Fascia is all that your would need or to make things easier a new fascia and screen and digi included. Search Tech2Tuts on Youtube for videos
I spray painted my housing yesterdag. Took the whole phone apart first.
Only thing I didnt spray was the digitizer. I used a glossy black color. Kind of cool, because the lg logo and 3mp icon just shine trough in the right light.
I sprayed directly on the plastic housing, without sanding or anything. Looks pretty good. But I dont think the paint is super dureable. And all the little lines around the chrome are hard to fill with paint. Used acetone btw to clean off accidently sprayed parts..
can you send some pictures of your tuned gt540 ?
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Here they are, i think ill spray the top part again, its not very smooth..
a small search on ebay.com resulted in
Dark-Night-Skull-Phone-Snap-on-Case-Cover-For-LG-GT540-Optimus-
LG-Optimus-GT540-Skin-Cover-Case-Decal-Dragon-Skulls-
LG-Optimus-GT540-Skin-Cover-Case-Decal
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"meyourchum" has provded a link to get offical disassembly instruction with lot more information.
Check it for yourself
Hello folks,
I had a chance to work on my friends arc who bought a Rogers version and dropped it. He had it totally mess on the case and needed the full housing replacement.
I hope that doesn't happen to anyone. I didn't take any photos but I am trying to explain everything as it was to help anyone with this.
General Note:
- Anywhere you got stuck, watch some X10 Disassembly video
- Be very gentle to your phone in this process
- Besides all the screws the rest of the phone is put together with glue(Sticky Back) and snap(plastic for main board)
- Using this information on your own risk as I don't take any responsibility if anything happens to your phone.
Instruction
1) Remove the back battery cover. Thats the easiest part
2) Need star shaped screw driver[Trox](I bought the set for $5) there are 4 screws like that and two which opens with phillips screwdriver(tiny) This is what I bought
All the above we all have seen them
3) After removing the 6 screws remove the front fascia of the phone with a guitar picks, something skinny but sturdy*
* I recommend not using anything other than rubber or plastic in the whole process.
4) Main board is snapped in with plastic to the body which easily can be opened.
5) Little board on the bottom is glued(sticky back @ top) which you can remove with pulling little hard but make sure you don't break it.
6) Majority of the wire you see connected to mainboard can be discounted (snap in wires)
7) Removing the screen: from outside of the phone (like you are looking directly to screen like you normally do) you need to put something under neat and raise up the screen. This part has glue as well and its hard to lift but I did it and it should be possible.
8) if you are doing a full housing replacement, then there are stuff here and there that you need to remove and re-use it on the new housing(Like 3.5 mm jack, HDMI lid, etc.)
Good Luck and let me know if you have any questions.
1st time... ehm.. taking the Arc apart, that is!
Helluw there
Just read your post, and thought I wanted to share with you, that I might be opening one of these slick little things. My friend broke his display, and the ISP is talking about some 'off the scale' repair prizes.
...So, he asked me to do the job
Told him I didn't have any experience on the disassembling of this phonetype, but he trusts me it seems
I might return with some questions in case of problems, is that OK with you Nimche?
Greetingz
Hope u have the courage to make a video next time
Sent from my Arc using XDA premium App
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Helluw there
Just read your post, and thought I wanted to share with you, that I might be opening one of these slick little things. My friend broke his display, and the ISP is talking about some 'off the scale' repair prizes.
...So, he asked me to do the job
Told him I didn't have any experience on the disassembling of this phonetype, but he trusts me it seems
I might return with some questions in case of problems, is that OK with you Nimche?
Greetingz
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Sure, no problem. I would be more than happy to answer. Lets see just some general stuff...
Note: anywhere you got stuck, watch some X10 Disassembly video
Note: be very gentle to your phone in this process
- you remove the back battery cover. Thats the easiest part
- you need that star shaped screw driver(I bought the set for $5) there are 4 screws like that and two which opens with phillips screwdriver(tiny)
All the above we all have seen them
after removing the 6 screws
note: besides all the screws the rest of the phone is put together with glue and snap(plastic for main board)
- remove the front fascia of the phone with a guitar picks, something skinny but sturdy*
* I recommend not using anything other than rubber or plastic in the whole process.
- main board is snapped in with plastic to the body which easily can be opened. I change full housing and not sure if you have to remove the hard key button from the bottom end of the phone too or not but that little board on the bottom is glue which you can remove with pulling little hard but make sure you don't break it.
- All the wire you see connected to mainboard can be discounted (snap in wires)
- There is a big one which goes to the screen you have to dis-attach that before removing the screen
- Removing the screen: from outside of the phone (like you are looking directly to screen like you normally do) you need to put something under neat and raise up the screen. This part has glue as well and its hard to lift but I did it and it should be possible.
Good Luck and let me know if you have any questions.
Can you answer this??? It get's hot here (and also in the same spot on the front.. so what's inside at this point??
CPU is right behind the second cover. I wish I could take some photos.
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CPU is right behind the second cover. I wish I could take some photos.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was also suspecting since this area gets damn hot when playing games and even at charging (sometimes).
So seems like they move the CPU from behind the battery in X10 to near to the camera in Arc .
Can I change only the front faceplate around the screen without removing the mainboard? How easy would that be? I want to change mine to Misty Silver as Rogers only carry the Midnight Blue.
Also, for glued parts, do I have to glue them back on the new housing?
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Can I change only the front faceplate around the screen without removing the mainboard? How easy would that be? I want to change mine to Misty Silver as Rogers only carry the Midnight Blue.
Also, for glued parts, do I have to glue them back on the new housing?
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Glue part, they are more sticky than glued. You just simply stick it back where it was.
Where is the silver face you found?
This is retarded from them...
Digitizer and screen(one part) are sticked to the front face. In order to for your to change the faceplate only(front) you may have to go through the whole process because the wires from digitizer are going through a big hole to the main board. You don't want to mess around with $700 or $800.
Inside, everything is small. really small. I thought I totally screwed up the whole thing. Technology has gone forward alot since I was a kid putting radio together.
Good Luck
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Thanks for the clarification. I was also suspecting since this area gets damn hot when playing games and even at charging (sometimes).
So seems like they move the CPU from behind the battery in X10 to near to the camera in Arc .
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Yes, there are two board one above battery and one below batter @ bottom of the phone
On top is the main board
on bottom is the board for hard keys.
Nicely put together but they could have done a better job there....
Are there three parts to the housing? I assume there is the front plate, middle housing with the chrome, and the battery cover. The mainboard should be in the middle with the chrome. So I can't just detach the screen front the front plate? What is holding the three pieces of housing together? The six screws?
There are silver housings on eBay from time to time. Though, blue is a lot more common.
Three pieces. Back battery cover which is nothing.
Then there are two main pieces.
Chrome which is more like a holder of the fascia.
If I remember correctly, the front Fascia is the one holding all the board on it including that metal look piece(aluminum probably)
I will take photos and upload here...
Uploaded photos to the first post...
Hey, I'm looking to replace the chrome piece which has a few nasty chips in it, after removing the second back cover, how easy is it to take off that chrome piece?
Great post
How can I replace digitizer? I dropped my phone and the glass cracked
anyone know where i can get the tiny screw driver? I cant seem to find the correct one. they are either too small or too big.
how easy is it to replace the front cover, ive cracked the top of it and chipped a bit out the side (surrounding the screen) i presume it'd be simple enough. And does anyone know where i can get a good quality/genuine front cover replacement?
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anyone know where i can get the tiny screw driver? I cant seem to find the correct one. they are either too small or too big.
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Sorry, you could have sent a private message.
I bought the screw driver here at local tool shop. Home Depot sells them.
Its called Trox Screw Driver and I bought exactly this one http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=100087664&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=100087664&ci_kw={keyword}&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googleads-_-pla-_-100087664&ci_gpa=pla&locStoreNum=618
I don't have the packaging but they should be standard.
Good Luck
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how easy is it to replace the front cover, ive cracked the top of it and chipped a bit out the side (surrounding the screen) i presume it'd be simple enough. And does anyone know where i can get a good quality/genuine front cover replacement?
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You can find the whole housing between $30 to $40 but the front cover is that actual main piece that holds all the internal components + the screen.
If the crack doesn't bug you much, I would not do it since you have to replace the sticker behind you battery as well, which is not easy to peel off + you have to take the screen off the old front fascia which is glued and kind of hard to take off.
Downside of the whole thing for me was the sticker. I have to find an alternative for this problem.