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My Wing Sucks Whats Up With This Slow Device

Ok, I have my Wing and im running touch it... its cool but this device is still slow... i have it over clocked and pagepooled... my brother has 8125 and its so much faster and i started to think that it was something wrong with my phone... Is anyone else having this problem? imean i touch the screen and it does not respond in realtime it sometimes takes up to 3 or 4 seconds... when writing messages it takes forever its just got to the point where it is very irritating... is there anything i can do to get my wing up to par where it wont seem sooooo slow?

Im not sure. Im overclocked and have pagepool at 6 and mine runs pretty quick.

Sounds like you may be overclocking it a little too far. Try lowering the OC and see if that helps.

Try installing a new Rom.
My T-mobile Wing used to be EXTREMELY slow with the stock T-mobile Rom on there ... it would always freeze and give me that little round hourglass thing all the time for the dumbest crap ... like checking new SMS msgs...but the moment I installed the PDAVIET v14 rom on there, the difference in speed was instantaneous. Afterwards, I installed batterystatus and overclocked it to 273mhz, and it runs like a charm. Installing the PDAVIET rom was the best thing I ever did, and I don't know how I survived this long without it!

^^^ thanks... how did you ever get v14 to install? i thought there were problems getting it onto the wingand it was missing programs...

My friend helped me do it, so unfortunately I don't have the exact process. From my understanding, you have to get past the CID check in order to install it since it's not an official tmobile rom.

Yeah mine is kinda slow too, do you really recomend installing that Touchflow thing (i dont know much about anything, just got my wing yesterday).

eltacho said:
Yeah mine is kinda slow too, do you really recomend installing that Touchflow thing (i dont know much about anything, just got my wing yesterday).
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TouchFlo is just a specific application that's originates from the HTC Touch device... but people have ported it over into Rom's built for most htc devices.
Here is a demo of the touchflo, so you can see what it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8TQ9Rr_7E
The touchflo cube itself is pointless to me ... it's just something that came out to make it 'prettier' and IMO it's just a gimic aimed towards the iPhone. I DO like that you can scroll now without the use of the scrollbars... and I wouldn't be able to live without that now that I have it.
I DO reccommend installing a 3rd party Rom on your phone, and you currently have the option of 2 roms.
There are other roms out there, but you want to make sure you install one that is specifically made for the wing, bc if you don't you're going to run into problems such as, the keys on the keyboard not lining up. The Tmobile wing is the HTC "atlas" which is a variant of the HTC Herald. The keyboard on the Wing (atlas) is different than the one of the herald, so when you start using certain keys/symbols, you get something else.
There are currently 2 3rd party Roms that are made specifically for the Wing , and they are
Touch-IT
and
PDAVIET
I am currently running the PDAVIET v14 rom and you will be surprised as to how much faster your wing will run just by installing a NON tmobile rom.... on top of that, you can overclock your wing with a program called batterystatus which will overclock the processor from the default 201 to whatever you want. Suggestion, Dont' overlock to more than 273-286 or so, bc your wing will crash.... but you can find some posts on this site where users discuss their clocking speeds.
Go here and follow the instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1540938&postcount=133
The Touch-IT rom final just got released today, and is available for download here.
Touch-IT for The Wing Full and Lite Ed.
I am actually in the middle of installing this Rom as I am typing, but I have heard really good things about it ... so I am anxious to try it out.
I suggest you take a look at Tyler's guide to Wing Modding.
Newbies Guide to Herald
and also take a look at the Herald WIKI page which may help answer a lot of questions you may have.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
If you have any other questions, you know you can count on everyone here to help you out. I personally won't mind helping you out with any questions you may have.

Wow thanx a lot, really helped me out a lot.
Not a lot of people will go all out like that to a newbie, so i really appreciate it .

Not a prob bro. Let us know if there's anything else we can help you with. That's the beauty of this place ... everyone helps each other... and I enjoy helping out, bc people help me out when I need it.

duprade said:
TouchFlo is just a specific application that's originates from the HTC Touch device... but people have ported it over into Rom's built for most htc devices.
Here is a demo of the touchflo, so you can see what it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8TQ9Rr_7E
The touchflo cube itself is pointless to me ... it's just something that came out to make it 'prettier' and IMO it's just a gimic aimed towards the iPhone. I DO like that you can scroll now without the use of the scrollbars... and I wouldn't be able to live without that now that I have it.
I DO reccommend installing a 3rd party Rom on your phone, and you currently have the option of 2 roms.
There are other roms out there, but you want to make sure you install one that is specifically made for the wing, bc if you don't you're going to run into problems such as, the keys on the keyboard not lining up. The Tmobile wing is the HTC "atlas" which is a variant of the HTC Herald. The keyboard on the Wing (atlas) is different than the one of the herald, so when you start using certain keys/symbols, you get something else.
There are currently 2 3rd party Roms that are made specifically for the Wing , and they are
Touch-IT
and
PDAVIET
I am currently running the PDAVIET v14 rom and you will be surprised as to how much faster your wing will run just by installing a NON tmobile rom.... on top of that, you can overclock your wing with a program called batterystatus which will overclock the processor from the default 201 to whatever you want. Suggestion, Dont' overlock to more than 273-286 or so, bc your wing will crash.... but you can find some posts on this site where users discuss their clocking speeds.
Go here and follow the instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1540938&postcount=133
The Touch-IT rom final just got released today, and is available for download here.
Touch-IT for The Wing Full and Lite Ed.
I am actually in the middle of installing this Rom as I am typing, but I have heard really good things about it ... so I am anxious to try it out.
I suggest you take a look at Tyler's guide to Wing Modding.
Newbies Guide to Herald
and also take a look at the Herald WIKI page which may help answer a lot of questions you may have.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
If you have any other questions, you know you can count on everyone here to help you out. I personally won't mind helping you out with any questions you may have.
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Hey Duprade,
Since I ran into a lot of problems bricking/unbricking the last time that I installed a new rom, I don't want to rush through it this time. I am kind of in the middle of the two roms that you said earlier, the touch_it and the pdaviet 14. Could you update us with your experience with both and which one you recommend personally. i am kind of leaning towards the pdaviet since i don't want some programs that come with the touch_it but i would like to hear someone more experiences comments comparing them as well. thanks in advance.... by the way my device is locked does that mean that i can not install the pdaviet v14 i thought the issue was resolved?

Totaly Lost Man! Help!!!!

I am currently running the PDAVIET rom. I was experimenting with the Touch-IT rom, but I am used to the PDAVIET rom and since I use my phone for work and all my work correspondence comes directly to my phone, I have to have it in working order at all times.
I would reccommend that you install both ROMs and test them both out to see which one you like best, because until you try them, you won't know which one YOU will like best.
If you follow the link I posted for the PDAVIIET rom, just follow the directions for the installation that I posted.
The Touch-IT rom installs using the ASERG method, which you can find the directions on installing it when you download the necessary files.

Okay, without flashing a new rom, and having to reinstall all my programs (speaking of that, Sprite backup didn't work for me, different story-comments?)
Is there any way to speed it up? Disable startup processes?
I've had to reset mine about 2-5 times in 48 hours...P I E C E O F C R A P...(not really a POS, just pissing me off)

hkbladelawhk said:
Okay, without flashing a new rom, and having to reinstall all my programs (speaking of that, Sprite backup didn't work for me, different story-comments?)
there has always been probelms with this program, a shame cuz I heard they implemented a new feature allowing you to restore even after switching roms
Is there any way to speed it up? Disable startup processes?
for sure, just navigate to \windows\startup...a simple search of what is in that folder will let you know what you use and what you can delete.
I've had to reset mine about 2-5 times in 48 hours...P I E C E O F C R A P...(not really a POS, just pissing me off)
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A new favourite tool of mine since having the herald is sktools. I never really used it before but there is an application associated with sktools that allows you to imitate hibernation of the device which will bring your program memory to just below what it was after boot up.
hope that helps....maybe one day i'll even make a vanilla rom (hopefully someone will make one quiker) so that these problems with it becoming slow disappear.
cheers

Now the recent problem I've been having is that when the device slows down, and freezes up, it unfreezes and theres a part of the screen that seems to be "stuck" in every app I use, until I restart...WtF?
EDIT: Oh, and SKTools looks good, but I'm not paying for programs. I'm broke just from buying the Herald

Ok...so i have done quite a bit of reading on this forum for the past couple months. I purchased a Wing from tmobile and absolutly love it. I have since then changed to the touchflo rom and installed the battstatus and it runs like a champ, couldnt ask for more.

hey i'm new to this stuff and i tried installing a new rom but my phone is now bricked i believe, anyway to unbrick it?

That's why you are a real gem of this place. I see you always answer people's questions (many answers could be found by a simple search) promptly and patiently, including mine.
I'm waiting to get a good deal on a 4gb+ memory card, then I will try to install the PDAVIET rom, looks thrilling to me.
Thanks bro!! If you are in the same city as mine (Milwaukee), I'd buy you drinks.
duprade said:
Not a prob bro. Let us know if there's anything else we can help you with. That's the beauty of this place ... everyone helps each other... and I enjoy helping out, bc people help me out when I need it.
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Thank you for the comments.
Regarding your Rom, I'd actually suggest trying out ITJE's TouchIT 2.3 over the PDAVIET Rom at this time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340403

I just ordered my 6800! So many Qs

I just ordered the xv6800, an upgrade from my Treo 650. Upon ordering, my research began (about 6 hours ago!)... It is now about 3 AM, and I am due at work in 4 hours. My questions are simple, and I know I am a noob loser, I know, but if someone could guide me to answers, even a simple answer like search words or anything, I would soooo appreciate it!
Questions/Statements:
Heres my experience level:
For my treo to support a 4gb sd card, way back in the day, I had to edit the rom and change the FAT 16 to FAT 32. There was so many guides on how to update the rom, that it was really childs play, even though I was sweating every step. So basically I know nothing, but I have fiddled.
I want to have the iphone skin/mod/theme or a "cube" theme (god I am a newb). Do I have to modify the rom? Are their any guides?
What is Flashing? Is this the same as unlocking? What is unlocking? (Guides?)
Is setting up VOIP way out of my realm? I saw this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070
but since it is not an idiot proof step by step, i got discouraged. What are those pictures all about, is it really as easy as just copying the configurations displayed in the screenshots?
I also want to have:
Slide to unlock (iphone function)
X closes the application (i read somewhere this is a 'must have')
MMS
SMS chat thread (like the treo's, also read somewhere this is a must have)
Another major question: Are mods for the sprint mogul, the alltell version of the phone the same as for the xv6800, or are the processes and such all way different (I am under the impression they are the same, but just checking)
I really think these are some of the basic questions that tons of NOOBS want to ask, but are intimidated to ask on such a knowledgable forum. Any help will be greatly appreciated, and I look forward to making plenty of paypal donations in the future, again and again and again haha, to all you guys (n girls) that can help pimp my ride errrr, phone.
-Nate

Welcome to XDA!
The first thing you need to do which would help expand your knowledge of the resource here is to read the General & sticky threads that relate to your application. These threads will branch off and direct you into the direction that you will want to take your device.
There is too much information here to be idealy mapped out; reading & bookmarking will become common practice and as topics, phrases and jargon become familiar, so will your speed in finding, installing and customizing...

Hello, i just want to say that it was a good move u made from switchin from 650 to 6800, i did it from 700wx to 6800. i would recommend first to check ur rom version and if it is not the newest rom which is 2.17, u might wanna check the customs roms out there or update it before staring messin with the custom apps because it happened to me, i had an old one and I installed a but of apps n then the new rom came up and it messed me up so i had to do a hard reset.
As for the cube, search keywords like cube, htc touchflo, htc apps, you might also like;
htc touch skins: touch skins
htc home plugin: Lets u mess with the htc home screen
phm reg: for all the manual reg edits and minimal hacks that r not on .cab
hidevista: cool top app with replaces the old START and adds a baterry metter
flashlight: self exp
LED Killer 3.1: to kill that DAMN BLINKIN LIGHT!
pimp backup: lets u back up ur contacts, task, calendar met, sms, mms, etc sprite backup: ($) lets u backup ur whole ppc
oxios hibernate: It helps u realease mem n make it a bit faster
oxios closeapps: Lets u close the apps instead of minimizin them,
TCPMP n Flash Bundle: lets u watch youtube,video.google, n more, fullversion MMS: A must, to send pic mail
PCMcontacts: iphone contacts like
PCMkeyboard: bigger better
threaded sms: self exp,
2slide2unlock: lock app like the iphone.
WkTASK: keeps tabs of open apps next to the START buttom, like windows tabs
total commander: another reg edit soft.
google maps: self exp
UI Tweaker: lets u customize all the colors in the ppc.
All of the above u can find it here in the forums or google search, n the best of all THEY ARE FREE! Enjoy and dont be afraid to ask around, i learned that there are no "stupid questions" if you do some research first instead of just go straight to questions cause u r to lazy to search and read.
Hope this helps.

lalord69 said:
Hello, i just want to say that it was a good move u made from switchin from 650 to 6800, i did it from 700wx to 6800. i would recommend first to check ur rom version and if it is not the newest rom which is 2.17, u might wanna check the customs roms out there or update it before staring messin with the custom apps because it happened to me, i had an old one and I installed a but of apps n then the new rom came up and it messed me up so i had to do a hard reset.
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Verizon doesn't have a 2.17 ROM out. That is only for Sprint. There are custom ROMS for Verizon devices that use some of the 2.17 drivers.

blazingwolf said:
Verizon doesn't have a 2.17 ROM out. That is only for Sprint. There are custom ROMS for Verizon devices that use some of the 2.17 drivers.
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good point, forgot to mention that, the ROM 2.17 is only for sprint, and like blazingwolf said, there are custom ROMs for almost all carriers. Thanks blazingwolf for the missed point..

Tweak for TP2

Hi All,
Can someone help me with an application for the tp2 to tweak such as Diamond Tweak which you can switch the automatic keypad lock and hide some stuff.
Im looking for such application and especially to make the auto lock for the keypad other than s2u.
Thanks

Welcome to the forums!
If you have a quick look around you'll find references to many tweak applications. I suggest that you look at the "software worth installing" sticky here and the cabs, tips and tweaks thread in the Rhodium / General branch.
Gordon

Hi:
I too am looking for something like Diamond Tweaks. Is anything available for Rhodium? I did of course check out the software to install thread, and have searched around, while I did find tons of good info, I have not found an app which performs multiple tweaks like Diamond Tweaks (or prior to that Kaiser Tweaks).
Am I just looking in the wrong place? The closest I have found is for the Topaz, but it seems people are having problems using it on the Rhodium. I am also looking for something like Diamond TF3D config. Anything available?
Thanks!

TP2 Tweak
I have never been a fan of "ME TOO" Forum messages, and in fact, messages that ask the same questions over and over are one of the reasons I don't like forums that much... but it seems I can SUBSCRIBE only to a thread I have contributed to, and the TweakTP2 utility that doesn't yet exist would be a GREAT addition to my life...
My contribution; While hAndyUtils has a Pro2 specific utility with SOME tweaks, it isn't quite as full as the DiamondTweak I used to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4892758

frogstar42 said:
I have never been a fan of "ME TOO" Forum messages, and in fact, messages that ask the same questions over and over are one of the reasons I don't like forums that much... but it seems I can SUBSCRIBE only to a thread I have contributed to, and the TweakTP2 utility that doesn't yet exist would be a GREAT addition to my life...
My contribution; While hAndyUtils has a Pro2 specific utility with SOME tweaks, it isn't quite as full as the DiamondTweak I used to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4892758
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Yeah, me too, lol
Forum gets a little circular when the same questions pop up again and again cos peeps can't be bothered doing a simple search.
In fact, if you can't search you probably shouldn't be tweaking. You'll only break your phone and the come back and fail to search for an answer to your self inflicted problem, starting the whole boring loop again.
Wasn't it Black Flag who released the album "Stupid people shouldn't breed" ?
Edit : Sorry, it was Skatenigs

I was actually thinking of petitioning this as well. I am currently using HD Tweaks and TD2 Tools, but as they are made for different phones some things don't work properly. If I use TD2 Tools I get the opton for "TF3D Rotation" which I actually hate. If it is activated then Touch Flow rotation becomes accelerometer activated and it is WAYYY too sensitive rotating when I so much as sneeze. If it I turn it off then when I open the keyboard it rotates but I can't actually SEE TF3D, only the windows bar on top and below where TF3D should be. A tweak app specifically for the TP2/Rhodium would avoid this kind of conflicts. Hopefully I hope it is made eventually. It'd be a great help for those who want to do some tweaking either in an easy manner without having to dig out a registry tweaker and have to look up the correct values and for those who are somewhat newbies and prefer a "safer" method that is easy to undo.

try this one
http://htcpedia.com/htc_touch_pro2_rhodium_settings_too/soft/rhodium-apps

HD Tweak works quite well for me.
Same goes for Advanced Config.
These are all the tweaking tools I really need for my TP2.

[Q] Choosing a ROM

I am completely new to the whole ROM scene, but with the possibility of landscape menus in manila 2.5.1922, I really need to check it out! However, there are so many ROMs out there, and I have no idea which one I should try.
So I guess what I am asking is: What is the most reliable/stable ROM with Manila 2.5.1922/landscape support?
Thanks!

It's bumptastic!

that's a tough question to answer.if there were one rom better than the others we'd all be using that one!
read some of the rom threads...the important stuff is inn the first post usually.
next, learn what the different versions of the different parts mean. is it windows 6.5 or 6.5.3, what manilla build is it and what's the difference... then you will be able to make your own informed decision.

This type of thread is usually locked by a mod, so I'll get in first ;-)
Only you can decide which rom is right for you, really. Best thing is to look at the existing threads for roms, and try one you like the looks of.
Almost all roms here are constantly being improved, so it's very difficult for someone else to recommend a particular rom over another one for you, as within a week one may have added new features over another.

Depends what are you looking for.
Speed?
Stability?
New features?
I personally seek a ROM that is close to original HTC but with improved speed and new features. I don't search for fastest ROM, just a ROM that is little bit optimized with tweaks from this place:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
also I like how start button is moved to the bottom so ROMs with that feature are also welcomed. Threaded mail in messaging is also nice feature. When it comes to looks I like the squarish buttons instead of rounded default ones.
At this moment I found that this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614006
(23518 version) is all that I need at this moment.
Happy hunting

The only thing I'm actually is something that works just like the original ROM, but with landscape support in the menus. Does the miri ROM do that?

Overlord Yuri said:
The only thing I'm actually is something that works just like the original ROM, but with landscape support in the menus. Does the miri ROM do that?
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No it does not.

You can try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606932
very close to original

Also if you can wait a bit here will appear new version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576578
based on 28217 build ??
according to http://twitter.com/l3v5y

New t-mous HD2

So I just got this phone like 3 days ago. And I like it. But I'm ready to do something with it. I didn't get winmo to use basic winmo, let's put it that way .
So anyways, I've been searching and I've found a few roms that I think sound pretty good to try out.
But the main thing I'm wondering about are what tweaks to look at that people have found to be really useful.
Before I flash a rom, I'd really like to try out some different tweaks to like change the keyboard, speed up messaging, and heck, I don't know what else (I text a lot, lol).
So I'm just asking for some suggestions from the users out there. Like what tweak or whatever you used, and where I can find it. Thanks guys .

I'm going to tell you what every one told me when I asked what rom to use on my touch pro 2. Just try as many roms as you want and see which one you like best or fits you the best. people tent to like different thing so what you like other people might not like or want on their rom. Right now im using the stock rom since I feel that theirs not point to flash it at the moment their havent put out anything special in my opinion (no diss to the developers here you guys make this site what it is). I'm waiting for android to be ported or windows 7.
Ps. read the instructions carefully theirs a few people here that bricked their phone already

Yeah, I really don't want to brick this thing. And THANKS for the advice.
But moreso than just roms, what I'm really interested in is tweaks. Any suggestions there?

More and more roms are coming with the tweaks already added to them. I would say find the ROM first and then find the tweaks that haven't been implemented yet.

I've tried a few ROMS and I have found Kumars the best to my liking. Its the closet to the original look and feel of the HD2 when you first get it. I use Kumars along with BsB tweaks. BsB is super easy to use and is a really powerful tool.

Yeah, I'll have to look at those. I mean, the main reason I'm looking at tweaks more is because I do like the HD2 Interface. There's just some small stuff that bugs me.
But I'll have to look more into some of the roms to really see what I want there as well.

Cookie's home tab is definitely the first thing to do

Cookie's Home tab? Is that a rom or what?
How about the keyboard, is there anything to change that, like get rid of the arrows?

EgomaniacIII said:
Cookie's Home tab? Is that a rom or what?
How about the keyboard, is there anything to change that, like get rid of the arrows?
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CHT is a cab. That is actually built into a lot of the ROMs you will find. If you like the HD2 interface then I would just say get Kumar's Classic ROM which would probably be the same as what you have now. Only difference is it has some of the tweaks already included in it like modifications of the registry as well as CHT but it lacks all the bugs that the factory O/S has. From there you can find out what tweaks it doesn't have and then add the CABs to it like the HD2 Memory Tweaks or whatever other stuff.
The fact that you like the factory HD2 interface doesn't mean you can't find an updated ROM that looks just like the factory O/S.