I have I-mate , and updated to ver 1.52 , i try to connect it with the BMW car bluetooth , they can see each other but the car can not bound the i-mate , any body try this , or is there a patch tor that.
any help
I'd like to...if anyone has a BMW 520i to donate i'll be willing to have a go!!
Sorry i couldn't be more helpful....i just couldn't resist.
Yes There is a solution Ali!!
First backup your device
Goto www.clubimate.com
Register Your device
Then you would head to the support section
And download the latest ROM upgrade which is approximately 40 MB
Upgrade your device since the new ROM is said to have a new fix for bluetooth.
And if this works ........ Please Donate !! (Just kidding !!)
if i am not mistaken, the bmw carkit is the same as the parrot ck3000...if so you have a problem (for the moment anyway)
the parrot ck3000 works with the handsfree profile of a bluetooth phone, and the xda2,qtek2020,i-mate and all the other names for our machine only works the headset-profile....it is no use of trying to upgrade the carkit, mine has the latest software, and still does not work...the upgrade has to come from your pda, that has to support the handsfree profile...as i heard, there should be one comming out in the first few months...let's hope...
thanks for the help
i update the i-mate before from the clubimate but as you said no help at all it is the same problem
if problem solved will donate sample bmw logo from the company
To ali:
Simply: NO WAY. Nor will BMW support you in any way: You will not get (in written) even the list of supported phones. They just claim it's lack of Bluetooth standardization (Wich is not completly false...).
BTW, I've found the hard way that BMW cars only support Handsfree profile (No headset), BUT, not on every phone model, and not all features....
If you are interested:
1- Ericsson and Sony-Ericsson T68 models: They work on the handsfree part of the Bonding, but you will not get your phone contact list automatically passed onto the car kit phone system. You may pass contacts one at a time (tedious and time consumming).
2- SE P800: My biggest disappointement, they do not even pair reliably, no contact list at all, connection breaks with no apparent reason.
3- Siemens S-55: The BMW preferred one (Both Germans, I guess....), to no avail. Same behaviour as SE T68, and although the contact list is supposed to be passed automatically it doesn't. When tried manually, it stops at about 6 or 7 contacts and the phone hangs.
4- XDAII: The BT part is SO POORLY implemented, it should have been even removed from the reviews on the forums.
Hi
I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Sim Access Profile capabilkity of the of TyTn to connect with a Bluetooth car kit. I'm trying to get the connection going with a Merc. car kit, but I can't get them to pair.
Thx
Hi petes, I have an slk 55 amg with command and bluetooth. The bluetooth in the command system does not work for pairing with a phone. Even though it says it has bluetooth. To use bluetooth you need an extra module.
Hope this helps...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...y-arrived-but.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
http://www.wireless4mb.com/phones.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...pic-seems-kit.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
Hi Dale
Thanks. I actually already have the module - the european version of the module is different to the US one in that it uses Sim Access Profile, rather than just acting as a headset. The TyTn says is supports SAP, but I just can't make it work - wondering if anyone's actually got SAP working.
pete S
Hi Petes,
I also have an Mercedes-Benz with the european bluetooth module. But I have a Qtek 9100 updated to AKU2 (Which is supposed to support SAP), but no luck at all. Actually the module can not even identify my phone and display it at the search screen of the comand screen. I tried also with a NOKIA 6230i (SAP Compatible phone) which actually I was able to see at the search list of the comand screen which means that the module is working with SAP compatible phones. What I will do next, is to try again with the new firmware I installed to my 9100 (T-Mobiles 2.21 Version) which has a SAP application for bluetooth (Something like SAP Server).
I can not do it yet because I am abroad and I will be back again 1st of September. I will let you know the results ASAP.
If you have any news from your site with TyTn please let me know because I was intending to change my 9100 to TyTn just for the SAP functionality.
Hi Barsam
The reason you can't find the 9100 when you search with the BT module is that it only looks for devices which identify themselves as Phones. The TyTn (and no doubt the 9100) identify themselves as Pocket PCs and so the (stupid!) Mercedes kit ignores them. The good news is that you can hack the registry to tell the Bluetooth stack that it's a phone. The bad news is that you can't pair with it. Getting it into the search screen doesn't mean it supports SAP - I could see my old T68 just when I was testing. Could you actually pair with the 6230i - i.e. when you see it in the list select Call?
When you're back, PM me and I'll send you the hack.
To tell you the truth I didn't try to pair the 6230i, but it's one of the phones that mercedes have tested on the bluetooth module. If I don't manage to do it with the 9100 I may get a 6230i. At least I can use the one that my brother has to test it and even copy my contacts to comand. Have you tried the hack with the TyTn? Can you tell me what is the the registry set to do that?
Where did you find out that the bluetooth module ignores enything elese than phones?
Make the following registry change
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS]
"COD"=dword:52020C
On your own head etc.. Keep a copy of the current value of course. Then do a soft reset. You'll then see it as a phone. I've tried this, and can now see the phone, but can't pair. I've had a mail back from HTC that they're aware of some problem with the SAP and are working on it.
I wish a nice car kit would be released in the USA that supports SAP/850 & 1900/ external aerial...
hello,
i'm trying to get my TyTN working with my Meceder Command too... does anyone tried the English ROM-Update? Someone wrote that he can use it's TyTN with his Audi after updating the ROM. And tha Audi-MMI-System works also with SAP... perhpas after the ROM-Update it works with Mecedes Command System too...
I haven't tried it yet - I've been waiting for the TyTn update to come along, but nothing from HTC yet. If I don't get anything soon, I'll switch over to the iMate ROM and report back.
I have used a nokia 6233 6280 onmy E55 2005 with B/t Module
The mercedes module in conjuntion with the command system is problimatic, hoever I think I have another peice of the puzzle. With both the above phones they only worked using Vodaphone 3g cards Three 3g cards paired using SAP however could not get recieption....Mercedes say (there guessing) its the way the sim card is configured.....
Mercedes BT
I have a TYTN on order and Im desperate to find a solution to the issue before it arrives.....
As a follow on to my last post ...basically what I THINK found out was if the sim card was configured to work only on a 3G phone..(some networks do this so that they cannot be put in a 2.5g phone and constantly roam on).....then it would pair with the Bluetooth module in Mercedes however never get recieption.
I tried this on several phones including 6233 6280 N80 E61.....just to name a few....ALL PAIRED....however If I put a Vodaofone 3g Card in then IT worked .....IF i put a Three 3G card in it didnt.....BUMMER CAUSE I'm with THREE.....
I hope this helps in some way and Im more than happy to be corrected however these are my first hand expeirnces....I WANT TO USED THE TYTN in my MErc so Im keen to help in amy way....I have unlimited access to phones...so if anyone has any other suggestions Im happy to give it a go....
Mark
At the moment, you'll find that by default the merc kit won't even see the Tytn (it's a pocket pc, not a phone as far as Bluetooth is concerned). You can hack the registry to change this, but then the phone will be seen, but pairing will fail. Hopefully, the forthcoming firmware update will fix this - I've had mail back from HTC support to suggest they know there are problems with the SAP support.
Mercedes BT
Is there anyone who had paired Nokia phones with Mercedes BT(euro spec) successfully? I had tried for several Nokia phones (6230i/6270/6280) to pair with BT ,all failed. I can just find the 16-digit PIN on Comand, no phone appears on Comand. Phone & Comand can't find each other. Do I have to set other setting except the "bluetooth setting" for mobile phone? Even I try to "search for audio enhancements" and 'find no devices' at all .
Thanks Petes,
Did they give any idea on time frames?...Did you have any thoughts about my experience with the different sim cards....
Mark
I am considering buying the HTC TyTN and the Merc Bluetooth module so I am very keen to know if anyone can get this working.
Thanks,
Ady
Nope - no news on timescales I'm afraid - just waiting for the firmware update from HTC. I'm reluctant to try the iMate firmware at the moment - until there's an HTC to go back to in case something goes awry. Has anyone had a chance to try SAP with either of the newer firmwares (iMate or Dopod) - might give us a good clue if the HTC one's going to work.
I've connected my 6230i easily enough, just remember to allow "auto connect without confirmation" on the phone after entering the 16 digit code
I have tried my HW6915 pocket pc but like the other PPC's it is not recognised
A reply I got from HTC support on 21/09/2006 asking about the Merc SAP problem was:
At present the TyTN is only compatable with a limited number of kits. A ROM update will be released shortly to update this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So fingers crossed that it will be soon and solve the problem.
I asked them the same thing a while ago and just checked back in on availability. Just got ...
"At present the HTC ROM for the TyTN is being written and tested and we expect it to be released in the very near future."
So, patience is a virtue I hear....
>I HOPE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP OR GUIDE ME. > >I HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING FOR A YEAR DOING AN INTENSIVE BUT MOSTLY UNSUCCESSFUL RESEARCH TO SOLVE ONE PROBLEM: LACK OF BLUETOOTH COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN MY iMATE POCKET PC PHONE (http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_PPC.aspx) AND THE BLUETOOTH CAR KIT IN THE iDRIVE OF MY BMW 335i (2007).> >I HAVE CONTACTED BMW AND IMATE SUPPORT (BY EMAIL AND BY PHONE FROM MEXICO CITY) MANY TIMES WITHOUT SUCCESS. (AND MANY OTHER SITES)> >THE CLOSEST FIX TO MY PROBLEM WAS TO UPGRADE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/) THE iMATE POCKET PC PHONE ("HIMALAYA")2003 OPERATING SYSTEM TO WB 5 AND WB 6. I WAS SURPRISED THEY WERE FINALLY COMPATIBLE. UNFORTUNATELY THE FIX IS VERY UNSTABLE AND PRODUCED TOO MANY SERIOUS PROBLEMS IN MY DEVICE.>A FRIEND LENDED ME A IMATE JASJAR AND IT WORKED FINE WITH MY BMW. OTHER CELLULAR PHONES HAVE ALSO WORKED FINE>>ALSO INSTALLED A DOWNLOAD (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html) THAT SUPPOSED TO FIX IT BUT DID NOT WORKED. I FOUND THIS DOWNLOAD FROM (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaFAQ) WHERE IT IS EXPLAINED "HIMALAYA" IS MISSING THE NECESSARY PROFILES.> >I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A POSSIBILITY OF "EXTRACTING" THE NECESSARY BLUETOOTH PROFILES-STACKS-BUNDLES TO DOWNLOAD TO MY DEVICE.> >IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP ME?
Please rewrite the whole thing. (don't use caps)
Firstly, I love this phone, it almost does exactly what I want, Ok Windows Mobile 6.x would be good but I can without that, what I can't live with is the Bluetooth problem I have.
My device will not connect to the integrated bluetooth within my Skoda Octavia - it pairs up OK, but won't transfer the phonebook, and then after 5-10mins the connection is dropped! While it's connect it'll receive calls OK. The BT in the car is identified as SKODA_UHV, which I understand is the same of other VAG (Volkswagen Audi Group) cars, albeit with a different name.
It's been back to HP three times, the last time it came back with different BT version software installed, but that hasn't helped.
The car works fine with my old Nokia phone (and the HTC S710), the BT kit installed is the latest Skoda version....
Beer tokens await anyone who can provide a fix.....
do you see "hand free" on this connection? more things iI can think of is that lots of problems are due to lack of memory (device not card) pleas look at other thread on this issue it dose happen with new users ,one more thing is that you can set the connection to be not scure go over the settings
Yes the icon appears - everything is fine and works well for around 10mins, the the connection is broken.
The same happens if the unit is cold booted (thus ensuring maximum memory) and regardless of the security settings.
look for "ms-bt-stock" on xda ,you can also use google like "xda ms-bt..." see if one f the cabs will do the trick but from that day on you will not have your current bt screen (you can uninstall orHR) backup your device before installing so you can hr and restore ,good luck
Hi all, I have a wildfire and i have noticed a little problem.I have always had a WM ( upgrade my devices every year) and Android Phone.
I have noticed with android the bluetooth connection issue does not have the option to leave the device "discoverable" all the times ( unlike WM devices).
This was not much of a problem with the 1.5 ( htc hero), when it was paired with my bluetooth stereo everytime the phone rang it would connect to the headunit and work very well. I was actually impressed as it would save on my much needed battery. And work very well interms on hands free in the car.
The phone i have now is a htc wildfire,the phone will ring and when i pick up it remains on the internal speaker and does not "search" for the default hands free.
My device is not rooted, currently running the oem unlocked unbraded rom.
I have a few questions but done know where to place them?
Is there a way round?Does anyone know of a fix?
Who actually makes the rom?
Can they not program the device to have the always on feature?
Is it possible to extract the bluetooth program/app from the 1.5 and port it to the 2.1?
Thank you in advance.
Ayub