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Strange Memory Leak

hi everyone, i would like to know why the hell everytime i insert my SD card i lose about... 10MB of RAM? and when i remove it, they come back, this is really annoying, and no i don't have anything running @ startup from the storage card.
Thanks in advance everyone

I too have been experiencing a memory leak but didn't know whats causing it. Now that you mentioned this, i pulled out my Mini Sd and Ram to 15mb free, i plug it back in now there is 5.7mb free. I just hard reset this morning
What rom are you using? I'm on Summiter's customized 2.17 w/a2dp
and the apps installed on device mem is as follows:
Opera Browser
SPB Pocket +
Resco Explorer V5.40
Skype
Micro. Voice Command
and a bunch of reg edits.
Now i just got some error with "relprog.exe" and i sent the error report and now its down to 4.9MB free..
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I just soft reset and when it turned on it reported 10mb free, took out mini sd and now its at 18 free....

Nothing strange about that. It simply memory reserved for running the SD. card data, working space etc. It's the same thing on your PC. Though you might not notice it since you probably have about 2GB of RAM like me

like someone said i guess we are still beta testing this windblows mobile 5, and alabij, that makes sense but since i have a nokia 6630 too which is on a symbian platform and that does not happen, i really thought this was very strange

we are beta testing(and paying 500bucks)
for wm5
this things gonna happen

double post...

the problem is i don't remember this happening on my Jam(magician) sp3, sp3i or sp5... started recently(within this month) on my kjam(wizard) and i don't think its normal for a storage card to take 10mb of ram to be accessible. My device is basicly crippled with this BS! i can't run anything with 4mb of ram. I think i'm gonna hard reset next week and run my device barebone(nothing installed) and see if it does it just to prove taht 10mb ram is not needed to read a miniSD card.
I've had a lot of headaches over wm devices but this is by far the worst because for every other problem there is a solution. there may be a solution for this, but so far no ones reported one yet.

yes, no way should it take that much to run a memory card. i just tested mine and it takes less than a third of a megabyte. not sure if this helps, but i had a bad card which often brought my mda to its knees trying to cope with it and all its bad sectors. maybe try formating it or trying another.

so is it really just devilboy1488 and I that are experiencing this?

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fone_fanatic said:
so is it really just devilboy1488 and I that are experiencing this?
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i upgraded to Cingular Official AKU 2.2 ROM and this stopped happening
Thanks All

Normal load - card in - 13.7 free
Normal load - card out - 17.9 free
Using the newest summiter rom.

try using the official rom

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fone_fanatic said:
so is it really just devilboy1488 and I that are experiencing this?
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i upgraded to Cingular Official AKU 2.2 ROM and this stopped happening
Thanks All
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mine did not it uses 4/5 mb.

cinguler 2.2?
where did you get the Cingular Official AKU 2.2 ROM? I have the Cingular 1.8.11.1 right now, I got my phone off of ebay and it was unlocked. If I install the official Cingular ROM will it relock the phone?

What is a normal memory? I was running close to 20, before but I had to hard reset, and now I am down to 14-15. Is that OK? I am using the 2.17 rom, havent updated to the latest yet. It is so much hassle, to keep upgrading.

I'm running the 2.21 ROM and use a 512Mb miniSD. When I eject it my program RAM drops from 17.74Mb to 17.50Mb. It is consistant with every eject and insert. The storage RAM doesn't change at all.

i think i found the problem. Last night i reflashed my device with the official imate rom and after installing all my regular apps and all the reg edits, i was back to square one. From 21mb free to around 10mb after i insterted my memory card. so i undid a few reg edits such as increase font cache, glyph cache, and the 2 enhanced perfomance reg edits which increase storage manager cache sizes. So basicly all the cache increase reg edits were causing this, or so i noticed from my little test. Now i've got 21.95 free without card and 19.65 free with the card in which is a lot better than before

Some newbie questions - 8525

Hi. I've had my Cingular 8525 since mid December or so, but I haven't really done much as far as customizing it or adding apps. I added PocketPuTTY and ended with that. I just bought a 1GB micro SD card, so I'm more comfortable loading things up.
First, though.. I love the look of the default green HTC theme - I'd searched for this and how to load it before, but I didn't find it for the TyTN... I think I found it for the wizard. Does anyone have a copy of this that they can post? Also, I'll have no idea how to install this... any links that would help, or posted guides, would be great!
Second, I've had the 1GB SD card for a little over a week now; I bought a 1GB card instead of a 2GB card as I heard the Hermes doesn't work very well with a 2GB card - that it slows considerably. I've noticed since adding the 1GB card that my 8525 slows down to a point where I have to reset it; I never noticed this before. Any ideas? I haven't been running more programs, and I've only 56MB of storage used on it for mp3s/pictures.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

Sorry to bump, but this question should probably go here also:
I've read a tad about loading other ROMs, and it seems like the South African ROM on this board is pretty popular. I can find threads as far as how to install it, I think, but what benefits does it provide?
Thanks.

The theme should work on the Tytn as well as the Wizard. You can download a HTC green look alike theme from the MS Windows mobile web site.
The green theme may be on your device. When you select Start-Settings-today is there a Windows green theme there? My 8525 had them on there..
As for the SD card. Yes it is a hit or miss issue with them. You sort of need the darn thing for storage but they will cause the device to hiccup... When that happens I usually just pop out the card and pop it back in and it seems to like it better.
Just don't install apps to the card that run in the background and try to write or will force a write to the card on wake up. For me it weather radar, I used to store it on the card and that caused the thing to freeze up like crazy, moved it to main storage and its is better.
As for ROMs I would stick with the one you have now from Cingular. In order to get that ROM on your device you have to downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 then flash the ROM. If mess up the bootloader your phone is dead or bricked as folks here will call it. There is not way to recover. So there is an element of danger downgrading the bootloader. There has not been a good way posted yet to downgrade or to change a ROM with the 1.06 bootloader on the 8525. So I am waiting on that to happen before I take the plunge..

Remember to check the wiki for Hermes folks - link at top of page.
The Green theme is on this page I think:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Dialers
Mike

duman95 said:
. There has not been a good way posted yet to downgrade or to change a ROM with the 1.06 bootloader on the 8525. So I am waiting on that to happen before I take the plunge..
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Simply flash your 8525 with the 1.30 Cingular ROM which has 1.04 bootloader...It's on the wiki and FTP site.

HTC TyTN green theme attached:

also have a noobie hermes question..
i currently have the 8125 and was thinking of getting the 8525 in about a month..
anyone else upgraded from the 8125? is it worth it?
i fiured the extra cpu power would allow much more programs to run better?
and will the same programs i use on 8125 work on 8525?
thanks

I just thought I'd give a quick update: I took the dive this morning and am now running the South African ROM. It was much easier than I thought, but also much more time consuming (waiting for things to complete).
Everything seems to be great so far, but I just now noticed that I can't get onto the internet. I guess I'll play with that later.
I think the most immediately exciting thing for me was seeing the default HTC look when I loaded the ROM. Thank god, no more of that ugly Cingular stuff! It does seem a bit snappier also, but I haven't gotten online to load many things yet.

@HLSniper
Look forward to hearing your findings on the ROM...expecting my 8525 this week and looking for the most current stable and efficient/fast ROM. Thanks for your time.
Regards.......
P.S. would you mind posting the ROM version info so I can find it easier...I would like to try it out as well, thanks again.

kwues said:
@HLSniper
Look forward to hearing your findings on the ROM...expecting my 8525 this week and looking for the most current stable and efficient/fast ROM. Thanks for your time.
Regards.......
P.S. would you mind posting the ROM version info so I can find it easier...I would like to try it out as well, thanks again.
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Sure; I found the ROM in this thread. Made my first few calls with it loaded since my last post, and I can honestly say that call quality has improved; maybe I'm just having a lucky day with service, but it is definately better today (with the new ROM) than yesterday. I can't speak for stability yet, but it's definately faster than the default that shipped with my 8525.
I'm still trying to figure out the internet issue, but I'm almost certain it's my own foolishness to blame for that.
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I forgot to mention this: when loading the ROM it gave me the default HTC theme, which I personally prefer. This was meant for a model (like the TyTN) that has a video camera on the front, though; when dialing to make a phone call you see a 'video' button that wasn't there with the default 8525 ROM. I'm not sure yet if this can be removed or not. Personally, I don't care as long as things work... but it may annoy some people.

guyver2077 said:
also have a noobie hermes question..
i currently have the 8125 and was thinking of getting the 8525 in about a month..
anyone else upgraded from the 8125? is it worth it?
i fiured the extra cpu power would allow much more programs to run better?
and will the same programs i use on 8125 work on 8525?
thanks
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I made the upgrade from the 8125 to the 8525 and love the new device. The major benefit is 3G speeds where available (about 4 to 5 times faster than Edge). I don't notice that much difference in processor speeds, because I was overclocking my 8125, but the 8525 is very fast. All the same programs I was using on my 8125 work on the 8525 except the overclocking program. The 8525 also has a few other hardware improvements especially the scroll wheel on the side for faster movement on any screen. Especially if you have 3G coverage I would encourage the upgrade...if you don't have 3G coverage I might advise you wait for a little price reduction from Cingular on the device before you change.

dwcliff703 said:
I made the upgrade from the 8125 to the 8525 and love the new device. The major benefit is 3G speeds where available (about 4 to 5 times faster than Edge). I don't notice that much difference in processor speeds, because I was overclocking my 8125, but the 8525 is very fast. All the same programs I was using on my 8125 work on the 8525 except the overclocking program. The 8525 also has a few other hardware improvements especially the scroll wheel on the side for faster movement on any screen. Especially if you have 3G coverage I would encourage the upgrade...if you don't have 3G coverage I might advise you wait for a little price reduction from Cingular on the device before you change.
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thanks for that info....
so there is no way to overclock the 8525?
ims ure the price is still ridiculous on this phone but ill be eligible to upgrade next month so ill see what that offer is they offer..
i might sell my 8125 to make this purchase a little easier

Alright! Just to finish up the thread and avoid scaring new users away from ROM upgrades, the South African ROM is working great for me now. After loading it I had no internet access, but following the setup information in Cingular's support area got me going wonderfully.
All is well, and thank you to everyone who tried to help out!

HLSniper said:
Second, I've had the 1GB SD card for a little over a week now; I bought a 1GB card instead of a 2GB card as I heard the Hermes doesn't work very well with a 2GB card - that it slows considerably. I've noticed since adding the 1GB card that my 8525 slows down to a point where I have to reset it; I never noticed this before. Any ideas? I haven't been running more programs, and I've only 56MB of storage used on it for mp3s/pictures.
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You need to also remember that the "x" button on pocketpc's just minimizes the app, so even if you think you're not running too many apps, they will still start to stack up. You should get a task manager program that allows you to see what's running and actually close apps. Personally I use Wisbar Lite, but it's not free and there are a few free alternatives out there.

Unable to start camera. Not enough storage is available to complete this operation.

I flashed to the new HTC WM6 Europe Pre-release ROM today... all went very well until I tried to use the camera.
I got "Unable to start camera. Not enough storage is available to complete this operation."
I have plenty of space in storage. The camera just refuses to work.
Searching the forums, I cannot find anyone who has gotten this error message (the first part, but not the last).
Is this a bug in the new ROM?
Anyone have an idea as to what this could be?

This is in the manual that came with your phone. Perform a soft reset and you should be ready to go with the camera.
You'll also find an icon on the phone display. It will either look like a memory chip or a memory card. Once you get into the application, ensure that you are setting it to use the memory card as storage.

Thanks... but I have already done that.
As I stated previously, this is not likely a storage issue. I just flashed to this ROM. I have almost a gig on the microsd, 30 mb + in free storage, and almost 30 mb program memory available.
One interesting side note... Cool Camera works fine.
I am thinking that there is an issue in this new ROM.

same problem here, i think i'm going to try with some other rom versions, cause this one is like "factory default", but runs very quick.

I've received this message a few times. I have VJLumosIII installed on my hermes (this app uses some part of the camera functionality to make the screen brighter) and I used to use it all the time. If I forgot to turn it off when I went to use the camera, sometimes I would get this error message.
The weird thing is that it was only sometimes; perhaps 1 out of 3 times. The other times the camera would just work.
I quit using VJLumosIII, though, because it drained the battery too quickly, and haven't seen that error message once since.
Probably unrelated, but thought I'd throw it out there.

had the same problem do a hard reset fixed it for me

clean riegistry hive

hi. i have a blue angel and upgraded it to wm6. it has worked great for about a month now. i have installed a lot of apps in it too. now my question is, speed has began to slow down now, like when i open messaging, it takes a long time to open, and im wondering if cleaning the registry hive would do the trick. i tried using some registry cleaners but nothing seems to be fixing the problem. i was wondering if i cleaned the registry hive when i do a hard reset, would the programs already installed have problems too? i dont wanna format the storage coz i dont want to go back to zero again. i think its just a program incorrectly installed or uninstalled doing the problem, but i cant find whats causing it. so im thinking, it could may only be the registry. i dunno. help me please.

you cant do that... by cleaning only the registry hive, soon your installed applications will not work properly, the reason for slow down device might be incompatibility of the apps...

The reason for slow performance on your device is lack of memory available on your storage. Also, please go to PIE and delete your files from options section.
The programs that you have installed on your device also uses the memory therefore it won't be as speedy as it would be when the device was just flash.

i see. actually, i cleared my registry hive once before, when i experienced the lost pasword. i didnt want to do a total hard reset so i just chose no on reformat rom and just the clear registry hive. but that was just a few days after i upgraded to wm6 so there were only a few new apps on my fon, so i wasnt worried of any problems yet. i did install explode's cabs though, and all seemed to work just fine, i just reinstalled them after clearing the registry hive just to be safe. i have lots of apps now, i dont wanna look for them again if i ever do a hard reset. i tried cleaning up the memory last night, and im still monitoring the phone if its still slow. i havent used it much today so i cant say it has improved, i'll get back and post what i see.

the thing is ....
get a 4 gigs or 2 gigs storage card and leave it in there .... install everything on it ... Piece of cake .. PS : you can switch between cards but the apps wont work till you put back the latter ! you can still use like 25 mb/s and the device works fine ..
how can we Increase the storage's space cuz i got like 109 mb/s for program and i don use THAT much .... i got only 42.95 mb/s as storage .. i miss that WM2003 se for that only cuz i can adjust the memory the way i want !

ok. I hav a 512mb sd card, im planning to buy one with laer capacity. I never realy remove the memory card.
now I tried freeing up the phone memory as u guys suggested, now I hav storage: 23mb and program: 59mb free:is that ok? or is it realy jst my phone? its stil slow even aftr I freed up some memory.
now my nxt plan is to dump my current rom onto a memory card and put them back after hard reset. wud that be ok?
update: ok, so i removed all installed apps, and did a hard reset to clean out just the registry hive. my BA is still slow. i dont know how this happened. it was just a month ago when i got this, it was perfectly ok, it was faster after i upgraded to wm6. this problem started just last week.

Going Down Memory Lane and Nochem & Camera Off Rom

Hi everyone I have been searching the forum but turning up zero. Many many month ago I had read that nochem had put together a rom that disabled the camera on the mogul. Freeing up something like 5 megs more of memory. But now I can't find the thread of the rom link.